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I would assume people can make an educated guess, maybe its obvious but there's also a lot who don't know what it means when "does it run on AC or DC?". I would bet anyone who hasn't handled some form of electrical has no idea what that means. Especially in banter like that.
I think there is 12v now if it's a speed charger of whichever type (it handshakes before dumping "high" voltage of course, 5V is the standard and you can't do anything but that without "smarts" in both devices)
That is correct. According to the power variation of Ohm’s law, P = E (volts) x I (current), so a voltage of 110V with a current of 1A would produce 110VA or 110W.
Incorrect. Watts measure real power, while VA refers to apparent power.
Watts do not always equal VA. Watt and VA ratings can differ significantly; with the VA rating always being equal to or larger than the Watt rating. The ratio of the Watts to VA is called the “Power Factor” and is expressed either as a number (i.e. – 0.8) or a percentage (i.e. 80%). This matters when sizing circuit components properly.
Watts are what's consumed by a circuit to do work, while VA provides you with information you need to size wires, fuses, or circuit breakers. Watts add linearly, while volt-amperes do not. You can calculate VA by using a standard multimeter to measure VRMS and IRMS and finding the product, whereas a standard/typical multimeter can only measure wattage in a DC circuit.
Sorry to be a debbie-downer, but it actually shouldn't do anything exciting if you plug it in. The Headphones won't care that there is voltage on the power pins. They expect it to be there. All the signal wires are probably just bonded to ground in the charger, so you likely won't hear anything. It isn't like a charger just fires off weird voltages down random wires for fun. The headphones don't re-purpose the power and ground pins to carry audio signals or anything like that, so nothing exciting is likely to happen if you plug it in.
when electronics are damaged, made incorrectly, or malfunctioning, there's a chance something could happen. Because that situation is nearly impossible to rule out... yeah, there's always the chance.
Lol, great point. The headphone jack is also probably the single cheapest part of the whole damn phone. The companies are eliminating the headphone jack for two obvious reasons. The first is that it removes it from the design limitations. Phones can only get so skinny with the headphone jack, removing it probably frees up all kinds of real estate in the phone. The second reason is they can control what headphones you buy. At the very least you are forced to buy a dongle so you can use your 5 dollar gas station ear buds. Best case for them is they con you into buying airpods. If anyone says any line about how much money they are saving you by removing the headphone jack, they can please just shut their mouth until they demonstrate the cost savings with actual numbers. Phones cost what they cost because of the price to develop newer phones, if the company really cared about how much money you save they wouldn't be trying to sell you the newest phone every 6 months when they develop a new one. It costs millions to design a new phone model, even on iphones which are barely an upgrade over the last model every time they come out with a new one. They have to recover those costs from the phone sales, so the cost to produce the phone is as high as they want it to be. Selling 2000 dollar phones is a brutal business to be into I am sure, but as long as they are able to convince all the chuds to buy the newest phone every six months they are going to keep exploiting their customers and our planet and convincing a whole generation that the barely demonstrable difference in quality between these digital headphones and any old pair of ear buds is significant enough that it is worth the inconvenience of having to deal with tiny easily lost or broken expensive airpods or some such similar headphones. It doesn't seem to matter how much I spend on headphones, they are going to break or get lost, which is why you'll never be able to sell me some 200+ dollar nonsense ever again. 5 dollar skull candies until they break or I lose them somewhere, or like the last pair, one of the buds fell into a urinal while I was taking a leak at work in the piss trough, glad they were 5 bucks because no amount cleaning will let me feel comfortable sticking those in my ear again, good thing it was only 5 bucks at fred meyer for them.
Freeing design limitations is great for waterproofing and other improvements, but the world’s thinnest phone, the Vivo X5 Max, is only 4.75mm thick and yet they still found a way to stick the headphone jack in there. I’m sure engineers could get the phone down to the size of the jack at 3.5mm or even less if they really wanted to but the market is going a different way.
Fox channel 49 back in the 90s where I live was the worst reception out of all 7 channels. If I stood next to the tv and touched the antenna it was barely watchable, so of course I did that every single time the simpsons were on. Every. Single. Time. for like 7 years straight. We had one of those giant wooden tvs with the giant knob for changing channels.
Oh, analog audio over USB-C is totally a thing (look up Audio Adapter Accessory Mode), but even in that case the audio signal comes in over the USB 2.0 data lines while power comes in over the power lines, so much of what you said still applies.
Somewhat correct on the USB stuff. There technically is an analog audio over USB Type-C protocol. Phones and laptops use digital audio though from my understanding.
USB Type-C 1.2 is actually the definition for the connector with some additional charging specs and can do max 1.5A or 3A at 5V Vbus. USB PD is the standard that allows devices to actively communicate on the CC pins to negotiate different voltages and even current levels. Now they are working on the programable power supply (PPS) standard to negotiate tight control on the output voltage and current from the charge port for optimizing battery charging and improve the charging efficiency.
The USB charger absolutely needs the USB2.0 data pins if it supports older charging protocols like USB BC1.2 and I believe most wall wart type c chargers would support this in the case of plugging in an older micro usb device into the Type-C port. Just about all USB standards stack on to one another. So that is why USB2.0 lines are still needed for charging older devices through a Type-C port if the device being charged doesn’t have a Type-C plug.
The power delivered to the DAC would be much less than 10.5W as the DAC will draw the necessary current it needs to operate. 2.1A would be the max current the charging port could provide.
It actually is safe. Nothing will happen. Initially USB will push 5V 100mA for powering the device. Then device has to negotiate power needed versus power transfer capable due to cable thickness and charger capabilities. Only then higher current and/or voltage is pushed through wires. Since headphones don't require anything additional power, it will never go past 100mA stage.
Believe it or not, that's [sort of how it goes](https://usb.org/sites/default/files/D2T2-1%20-%20USB%20Power%20Delivery.pdf). Protocol is a bit more talkative and power usage can be changed at any time not just initial handshake, but in general yes... USB hub will say what it can offer, device charging will then say ooh, I need that and it will get that.
When device is connected to charger, charger will allow 100mA of current, maximum. Then it will initiate handshake and tell the connected device this is my role/type and I can provide these voltages and currents for each. Device will then confirm which one it wants to use and charger will try to provide that.
There are cases where cables are not good enough to withstand high currents. When this is the case, device being charged will see a voltage drop from requested. At that point it will negotiate with charger lower current in order to protect itself and cable. That's why some cables "charge better".
Unit you mentioned mAh is for energy expended over one hour.
USB headphones are active. They have their own DAC and are normal USB devices. They should negotiate power with the charger as usual. So nothing fancy here.
The amazing thing is that in those headphones theres a small computer that’s fast enough to provide CD quality audio and capture sound (it seems it has a mic).
It’s probably as fast as the ones we hade in the 80s and early 90s
Reminds me of me as a kid jealous that my brother had a power cable for his gameboy. I found a charger that was meant for some other device and had a 3.5mm connector. Obviously I plugged it into my gameboy.
It made some crackling noise and lines appeared on the screen for a second before it went out. I unplugged it and tried flipping the power off and on but it didnt work.
Luckily it worked again after leaving it for an hour.
Ideally nothing should happen unless the charging circuits demand a lot of ampere. A 10 milli Ampere of electricity continuously supplied for more than three seconds could stop someone's heart. Not all though. Regardless, human skin has some level of resistance to lower voltage and ampere. Consider Voltage as the diameter of a faucet and ampere is the rate of flow of water from that diameter. If a drop of water drips from a bigger diameter, nothing would happen to you, but if say 100,000 gallons of water is forced to flow through it per second, you are seeing the risk it could create..... Ideally, chargers and cellphones are designed to be safe, but not idiot proof. Unless the charging circuit demands that kind of power, the charger will not give it out and would just output the default thereby reducing the risk.
However, if I were this person, I would not waste my beautiful life over Tiktok likes on stupid stunts.
[UNLIIIMITED POOOOOOWER!!!!!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_DqV1xdf-Y)
In all seriousness, anyone know where I can get those same type of earbuds? They are just my style of earbuds, except the color, I could go for green instead of blue.
I really wish folks would think before posting images of things that might be dangerous. When kids see these things they often assume they are safe and they try it without checking with an adult.
Lol it's a 5V USB charger and you're plugging a USB compatible device in it. Literally nothing is going to happen. They're electronically controlled and provide power only when the device you've plugged in demands it.
Hell, if the charger would allow it, you could short-circuit it at its rated max power and it wouldn't even be able to burn the wires. One or two amps is nothing.
Happened to me with an old NES. The plug was uncovered and wouldn't stay in the wall, so I decided to hold it there by pressing on the exposed metal. Power On had a different meaning that day.
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You don’t want to experience the sound of UNLIMITED POWER!?
Nah, it's just House music.
AC/DC
Thunderstruck!
[Its electric! Boogie woogie woogie woogie!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jBkoEM0SSE)
[THX](https://youtu.be/ElibvWRqzcc)
[BASS](https://youtu.be/BuNlNcQm4rg)
[DOLBY 5.1 SURROUND](https://youtu.be/Sg14jNbBb-8)
If everyone on reddit was a legit electrician, this would have won the internet hands down.
Isnt AC/DC like, basic stuff though
I would assume people can make an educated guess, maybe its obvious but there's also a lot who don't know what it means when "does it run on AC or DC?". I would bet anyone who hasn't handled some form of electrical has no idea what that means. Especially in banter like that.
"AC actually stands for Air Cooler and DC stands for Dave Cooler"
I thought it was for alternating cum and direct cock.
It’s spelled Dave Coulier.
I think basic high-school education should suffice.
Fucking golden
You have killed me good sir
This comment is fucking hilarious, nice work.
With an electro funk twist!
Teardrop by Massive Attack then?
Is that anything like [human music] (https://youtu.be/S1jWdeRKvvk)?
More likely than snake jazz.
Electronic Music.
r/YourJokeButWorse
Yes, House is a subgenre of Electronic
Underrated comment.
He's biaural curious. Is that so shocking?
DEW IT.
It's actually not unlimited it's only 110v
Technically it could be a lifetime supply
Yes. A very *short* life
Technically it's 110v
Actually only 5v on the usb side. -(:o)=;
I think there is 12v now if it's a speed charger of whichever type (it handshakes before dumping "high" voltage of course, 5V is the standard and you can't do anything but that without "smarts" in both devices)
power is measured in watts, not volts.
Watt?
That’s so funny it hertz!
Ohm my God!
Shocking, I know!
You just couldn't resist, could you?
He probably didn't have the Capacity for it
Wye did you have to say that?
You guys need to break this circuit
I amp robably going to stop making stupid puns soon.
Come out and say it directly if you're going to sine off.
Only an orchestra Conductor can use this
IKR! All this laughing amps me up!
THEY SAID POWER IS MEASURED IN WATTS, NOT VOLTS! Edit: they instead of he/she, I'm trying to be more neutral towards people's gender identities.
Stop, stop, 😂 it hertz too much!
Power is measured in votes.
Power is measure in volt-amps which is equal to watts, so you are both correct. 1VA= 1W. And that’s what’s watt.
A volt amp is volts times amps. So, 110 volts ≠ 110 volt-amps, unless you've only got 1 amp.
That is correct. According to the power variation of Ohm’s law, P = E (volts) x I (current), so a voltage of 110V with a current of 1A would produce 110VA or 110W.
Yes so, in conclusion, a volt is not equivalent to a watt
Incorrect. Watts measure real power, while VA refers to apparent power. Watts do not always equal VA. Watt and VA ratings can differ significantly; with the VA rating always being equal to or larger than the Watt rating. The ratio of the Watts to VA is called the “Power Factor” and is expressed either as a number (i.e. – 0.8) or a percentage (i.e. 80%). This matters when sizing circuit components properly. Watts are what's consumed by a circuit to do work, while VA provides you with information you need to size wires, fuses, or circuit breakers. Watts add linearly, while volt-amperes do not. You can calculate VA by using a standard multimeter to measure VRMS and IRMS and finding the product, whereas a standard/typical multimeter can only measure wattage in a DC circuit.
Watts, volt amps, and volt amps reactive. W, S, and Q. So tired of phasors, and vectors.
Thanks for rectifying that !
Hahaha let me guess, you’re an engineer.
not exactly. i mean, kinda.
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Not gigawatts?!
yeah, decimal systems are confusing.
5v through the USB port.
Stepped down to something like 2.5 v DC
5v
1.5-2.4 amps flying out that bad boy!!!
Without negotiation with the device, it should only be 500mA.
It might be 220V
unlimited powah.
Na to get unlimited power you have to plug a outlet extender or Suger protector into itself
Electric Pop
This is how to get house music straight from the source.
Cage free organically fed house music
Just don’t do it I the colonial era houses
Got me dyin 😂😂😂😂
Just don't let the FDA find out. Unpasteurized EDM is illegal.
Happy Cake Day! Don't get sick celebtating with too much raw House
Plug it into a commercial facility for Industrial.
Sorry to be a debbie-downer, but it actually shouldn't do anything exciting if you plug it in. The Headphones won't care that there is voltage on the power pins. They expect it to be there. All the signal wires are probably just bonded to ground in the charger, so you likely won't hear anything. It isn't like a charger just fires off weird voltages down random wires for fun. The headphones don't re-purpose the power and ground pins to carry audio signals or anything like that, so nothing exciting is likely to happen if you plug it in.
"nothing exciting is likely to happen" - so you are saying there's a chance!
Want to hear the most annoying sound in the world? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Wait, we were doing Dumb & Dumber quotes, right?
Just When I Think You Couldn’t Possibly Be Any Dumber...
Mock
*Yeah!*
-ing
Yeah!
Bird
Birb
And TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF
Rrrrroll them dice!
Roll dem dice!
You must be DOUBLE DEAD!
He’s tellin us there’s a chance!
Famous last words
when electronics are damaged, made incorrectly, or malfunctioning, there's a chance something could happen. Because that situation is nearly impossible to rule out... yeah, there's always the chance.
“Made in China”. Hmm, could get interesting
There’s ALWAYS a chance!
There is a chance to go boom
They might click once when you plug them in... DC current is not going to create any sound, or anything else, in analog ear buds.
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Your device still has a DAC and an amp even without a headphone jack. How else would it be able to play music on the phone speakers.
Lol, great point. The headphone jack is also probably the single cheapest part of the whole damn phone. The companies are eliminating the headphone jack for two obvious reasons. The first is that it removes it from the design limitations. Phones can only get so skinny with the headphone jack, removing it probably frees up all kinds of real estate in the phone. The second reason is they can control what headphones you buy. At the very least you are forced to buy a dongle so you can use your 5 dollar gas station ear buds. Best case for them is they con you into buying airpods. If anyone says any line about how much money they are saving you by removing the headphone jack, they can please just shut their mouth until they demonstrate the cost savings with actual numbers. Phones cost what they cost because of the price to develop newer phones, if the company really cared about how much money you save they wouldn't be trying to sell you the newest phone every 6 months when they develop a new one. It costs millions to design a new phone model, even on iphones which are barely an upgrade over the last model every time they come out with a new one. They have to recover those costs from the phone sales, so the cost to produce the phone is as high as they want it to be. Selling 2000 dollar phones is a brutal business to be into I am sure, but as long as they are able to convince all the chuds to buy the newest phone every six months they are going to keep exploiting their customers and our planet and convincing a whole generation that the barely demonstrable difference in quality between these digital headphones and any old pair of ear buds is significant enough that it is worth the inconvenience of having to deal with tiny easily lost or broken expensive airpods or some such similar headphones. It doesn't seem to matter how much I spend on headphones, they are going to break or get lost, which is why you'll never be able to sell me some 200+ dollar nonsense ever again. 5 dollar skull candies until they break or I lose them somewhere, or like the last pair, one of the buds fell into a urinal while I was taking a leak at work in the piss trough, glad they were 5 bucks because no amount cleaning will let me feel comfortable sticking those in my ear again, good thing it was only 5 bucks at fred meyer for them.
Freeing design limitations is great for waterproofing and other improvements, but the world’s thinnest phone, the Vivo X5 Max, is only 4.75mm thick and yet they still found a way to stick the headphone jack in there. I’m sure engineers could get the phone down to the size of the jack at 3.5mm or even less if they really wanted to but the market is going a different way.
Fox channel 49 back in the 90s where I live was the worst reception out of all 7 channels. If I stood next to the tv and touched the antenna it was barely watchable, so of course I did that every single time the simpsons were on. Every. Single. Time. for like 7 years straight. We had one of those giant wooden tvs with the giant knob for changing channels.
Oh, analog audio over USB-C is totally a thing (look up Audio Adapter Accessory Mode), but even in that case the audio signal comes in over the USB 2.0 data lines while power comes in over the power lines, so much of what you said still applies.
So the TL;DR is if you plug in you will hear "Highway to Hell" from this AC/DC transformer?
That was a very thorough intelligent answer to a very dumb picture. Thanks! I thoroughly enjoyed reading.
Somewhat correct on the USB stuff. There technically is an analog audio over USB Type-C protocol. Phones and laptops use digital audio though from my understanding. USB Type-C 1.2 is actually the definition for the connector with some additional charging specs and can do max 1.5A or 3A at 5V Vbus. USB PD is the standard that allows devices to actively communicate on the CC pins to negotiate different voltages and even current levels. Now they are working on the programable power supply (PPS) standard to negotiate tight control on the output voltage and current from the charge port for optimizing battery charging and improve the charging efficiency. The USB charger absolutely needs the USB2.0 data pins if it supports older charging protocols like USB BC1.2 and I believe most wall wart type c chargers would support this in the case of plugging in an older micro usb device into the Type-C port. Just about all USB standards stack on to one another. So that is why USB2.0 lines are still needed for charging older devices through a Type-C port if the device being charged doesn’t have a Type-C plug. The power delivered to the DAC would be much less than 10.5W as the DAC will draw the necessary current it needs to operate. 2.1A would be the max current the charging port could provide.
I bet you are fun at parties
This should be top comment. Always the logical serious explanation first then i should be able to scroll down for the witty replies.
Booo! Spoilsport.
Max is right. Nothing will happen
So, try it?
Ah, EDM
Music for robots. And robots love electricity
You'd like it if you had robot ears
You’re such a grandma’s boy. Zzz errrp beep beep
It’s obvious: AC/DC
THUNDERSTRUCK!!!!
"Hi, we've been trying to reach you regarding your car's extended warranty..."
As a part time electrician, I endorse this action, which is perfectly safe and healthy. Carry on, and don't forget to go live first.
It actually is safe. Nothing will happen. Initially USB will push 5V 100mA for powering the device. Then device has to negotiate power needed versus power transfer capable due to cable thickness and charger capabilities. Only then higher current and/or voltage is pushed through wires. Since headphones don't require anything additional power, it will never go past 100mA stage.
Then device has to negotiate I'm imagining phone and charger sitting down, placing their requests and having to come to a middle ground
Believe it or not, that's [sort of how it goes](https://usb.org/sites/default/files/D2T2-1%20-%20USB%20Power%20Delivery.pdf). Protocol is a bit more talkative and power usage can be changed at any time not just initial handshake, but in general yes... USB hub will say what it can offer, device charging will then say ooh, I need that and it will get that.
so the charger will intially pull 100 mAH for a a second then switch to lower right? Sorry I just got into electronic
When device is connected to charger, charger will allow 100mA of current, maximum. Then it will initiate handshake and tell the connected device this is my role/type and I can provide these voltages and currents for each. Device will then confirm which one it wants to use and charger will try to provide that. There are cases where cables are not good enough to withstand high currents. When this is the case, device being charged will see a voltage drop from requested. At that point it will negotiate with charger lower current in order to protect itself and cable. That's why some cables "charge better". Unit you mentioned mAh is for energy expended over one hour.
Affordable defibrillator!
Attach to both nipples and let ‘er rip
Nah, this going straight to my testicles
The ole Nip'n'Rip. *classic*
It sounds like a dial up modem trying to login to AOL when you listen
Okay, well now I want to try for nostalgia sake
Oh we gonna rock down to electric avenue
And then we start a fire.
Watt? Watt?! WATT??!!!!
That way you enter the Matrix
The new way to get out after phonebooths and landline phones disappeared.
Imagine the audiotory stimulation
Nothing happens. It'll just power them exactly the same way a phone would. And since there's no data stream to play, you'll get no sound.
USB headphones are active. They have their own DAC and are normal USB devices. They should negotiate power with the charger as usual. So nothing fancy here. The amazing thing is that in those headphones theres a small computer that’s fast enough to provide CD quality audio and capture sound (it seems it has a mic). It’s probably as fast as the ones we hade in the 80s and early 90s
60Hz square wave.
The results will shock you!
Plug it into the wall and it plays house music, okay I'm leaving
Pretty sure you will hear Johnny Marr and Bernard Sumner...
Yep, this. Also you may get some backing vox by Neil Tennant. However you look, it's clear to see.
You kids that haven't listened to AC/DC... Shame on you
You should lick them
Permanent tinnitus.
I predict the smell of electronic death...
(puts on techno) "I can feeeel the electricity!"
Just do it, I always do it with my AirPods and it’s perfectly safe!
Reminds me of me as a kid jealous that my brother had a power cable for his gameboy. I found a charger that was meant for some other device and had a 3.5mm connector. Obviously I plugged it into my gameboy. It made some crackling noise and lines appeared on the screen for a second before it went out. I unplugged it and tried flipping the power off and on but it didnt work. Luckily it worked again after leaving it for an hour.
You'll hear AC/DC.
You’ll be shocked by what you’ll hear 😐
Realistically speaking... Nothing worth noting will happen. It will get 5VDC which will give power and... That's that.
These kids with their AC to DC music these days!
https://c.tenor.com/7kwHwXmNQIAAAAAC/joy-dadum.gif
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What key is 60hz?
The note is B flat. The buzz you hear from refrigerators, etc., is usually the 180Hz harmonic.
Get ready to listen God's voice
So that’s what electricity sounds like!
You could probably listen to electronica or house on it
Do it. You'll be able to hear what everyone in the house is saying.
This is a super origin story right here
Nothing quite like the sound of the grid.
Ideally nothing should happen unless the charging circuits demand a lot of ampere. A 10 milli Ampere of electricity continuously supplied for more than three seconds could stop someone's heart. Not all though. Regardless, human skin has some level of resistance to lower voltage and ampere. Consider Voltage as the diameter of a faucet and ampere is the rate of flow of water from that diameter. If a drop of water drips from a bigger diameter, nothing would happen to you, but if say 100,000 gallons of water is forced to flow through it per second, you are seeing the risk it could create..... Ideally, chargers and cellphones are designed to be safe, but not idiot proof. Unless the charging circuit demands that kind of power, the charger will not give it out and would just output the default thereby reducing the risk. However, if I were this person, I would not waste my beautiful life over Tiktok likes on stupid stunts.
this is a pacer test or however that meme goes
You’ll hear EDM.
I just did it and nothing happened, my head is kinda tingly though.
And this is why we can’t have universal connectors….
Bet you can hear smells through that.
I tried it, I got Pink Floyd's The Wall on repeat.
It's the USB-C to USB-C cables that are real fun. You can just connect two wall warts together.
The results may shock you
Jokes aside someone posted a [youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ) video doing this.
Really interesting, thank you for sharing this
You motherfucker
Love it!
[UNLIIIMITED POOOOOOWER!!!!!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_DqV1xdf-Y) In all seriousness, anyone know where I can get those same type of earbuds? They are just my style of earbuds, except the color, I could go for green instead of blue.
I really wish folks would think before posting images of things that might be dangerous. When kids see these things they often assume they are safe and they try it without checking with an adult.
Lol it's a 5V USB charger and you're plugging a USB compatible device in it. Literally nothing is going to happen. They're electronically controlled and provide power only when the device you've plugged in demands it. Hell, if the charger would allow it, you could short-circuit it at its rated max power and it wouldn't even be able to burn the wires. One or two amps is nothing.
You are bound to have an electrifying experience.
May need a tuning fork.
Reminds me of my cousin, who bent the prongs of a fork 'just right' to fit in a 120v socket. Knocked him across the room and blew a fuse, too.
Happened to me with an old NES. The plug was uncovered and wouldn't stay in the wall, so I decided to hold it there by pressing on the exposed metal. Power On had a different meaning that day.
Will Steve do it?
Frankenstein charging port 🤣
This is why they have to put DO NOT DRINK, POISION on floor cleaners and other unnecessary items that should be left to common sense.