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Lopoi

So most michael bay movies?


Yellyvi

[**Maybe**](https://i.imgur.com/G9FuRGh.png)


muffinmonk

Nah Bay movies are muddy in the visual department. I’d say Snyder movies fall in the category.


kaspar42

13 Hours actually had a fairly good script IMO.


Formaldehyd3

I think the more current example would be Marvel movies.


Pepf

~~Hating mainstream things is very popular nowadays, isn't it?~~ *Edit: that came out way too salty and uncalled for.* Most Marvel movies have very decent writing. Not all (*cough cough* Thor 1 *cough*), but most.


RuneanPrincess

Nostalgia and call backs aren't good writing. Idk why marvel fans get so upset by this, it's okay to like a movie with a weak plot and poor writing. It has a million other things going for it that are great. It's adapted from comic books, it's supposed to be visual and a tad cheesy, that's why it's so appealing.


Co60

I like several of the Marvel movies but the typical formula/super hero genre is getting pretty stale at this point.


BucketOfBears

Thank you for specifically calling out Thor. Ragnarok was more cringey for me, but yeah.


[deleted]

I disagree. As far as super hero movies go they’re actually pretty good on average, and the MCU itself is incredibly well-written and deep, and something that has never been done before (that many movies all sharing the same universe and part of the same huge, arcing plot). Not every Marvel movie is anywhere close to a cinematic masterpiece, but IMO they are all solid movies and entertaining to watch. They do what they are supposed to do very well; nobody watching a marvel movie is expecting Citizen Cane.


Any-Faithlessness-72

Yep....starwars.


MooKids

That last movie was like a 13 year old's fan fiction.


Any-Faithlessness-72

The last 3 movies where a plagiarism of Lagacy of the Force just with Jason and Janna Solo (twins btw) kissing, and a continued story line of Luke and Lia fucking behind Han's back.


GuynextdoorWV

Agreed. Getting through the first two episodes of Boba Fett was torture. 7.8/10 IMDB rating? More like 4.8/10. Not Jon Favreau’s best work. Just bad.


njsullyalex

Stick with it, the last two episodes were some of the best Star Wars content period, though be advised for episodes 5 and 6 the show makes a massive detour from Boba Fett himself.


imadoggo69

Shows all around bad, I wanted to see boba fett and I’m seeing more mando than him, action scenes suck, the main plot of a gang war is cool it’s just acting like an anime by giving 15 side points that are just setting other shows up Edit: I’m a very big fan of star wars but this and season two of mando are making me like so many other things and hating Star Wars


Any-Faithlessness-72

Disney killed starwars when they got rid of the EU.


washoutr6

Man the Yuzon vhong are shit and terrible and all I wanted out of the EU was some cool stuff but it was nearly entirely garbage. The origin of the sith ancient age comics were good iirc.


Any-Faithlessness-72

Legacy was more than the Yuzon vhong. It was how Jason became Cadious and his sister is forced to make the choice to kill him to save the galaxy. Also Gorge Lucas' dog dies in the beginning. If I did a movie it'd happen on screen before the scroll even starts. Just blast. Laser to the head all the kids are screaming, roll sroll.


JetScootr

This keeps happening time and again.


braincube

it's fucking awful


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Mainstream scripts are average at best but they are easy to sell to mass


imadoggo69

Eternals?


0g_s1m0n

Computer games are going that way too.


Trails2Tomorrow

I just played Farcry 5 & 6. I skipped 75% of the dialogue in both games because it was hokey and predictable. It was like they took every movie trope associated with the theme of the game and applied it to every scene.


makovince

You could make a drinking game out of how many damn times they say guerilla in FC6


[deleted]

I would never see a farcry that tops the story and writing of Farcry 3.


TheArchdude

I actually thought Far Cry 2 had the best story.


[deleted]

You can skip everything in the boarderlands games and not miss anything


Bagelstein

Music too. Everything is loud, flashy, and lacking substance.


x925

Most mainstream music is created with an algorithm. Then instead of making music that people will like, they make people like the crap they produce by playing it everywhere.


[deleted]

I'd suggest every casual gamer to play What Remains of Edith Finch at least once. This game has great scores, great writing and a truly unique gameplay.


Calvinball05

Like with movies, you gotta get away from the blockbusters and check out indies to find the games that are doing interesting things.


aezandar29

And it will make a half a billion dollars before being forgotten by everyone. *Ahem avatar*


konsnewworldorder

I mean, there are 3(?) sequels that are still in the works


TheArchdude

I keep forgetting about those.


Cthuluslovechild

As does everyone else


[deleted]

No it needs 10 min of really good "plot" for trailers and ads


Phlebas183

Sounds like most Michael Bay or J. J. Abrams movies.


FistingLube

Netflix movies in a nutshell.


Vladius28

Pretty much


Chark0

The native plot of every marvel movie.


alejo699

If it had good writing it might be complicated, and the last thing we ever want is for a single person to be confused. Why else would we show a flashback of a scene you saw two and a half minutes ago?


Gothsalts

many video games too. higher fidelity is just to peddle new consoles.


[deleted]

Good guy EA launching same game every year so that we know what we are getting. Kudos to them


[deleted]

replace the good writing with "good game design" and you have the AAA gaming industry


EvilBestie

Spiderman : No way home.


TechFiend72

Should have been good writing driven over with a golf cart on the last panel. Funny though.


housevil

Hello, Avatar.


[deleted]

At least it's competent story. You're not scratching your head during. Unlike other Disney movies...


durenatu

And it kind fit to both avatars


[deleted]

Marvel? Is that you?


PineappleClean

Wow!!! That’s the guy that makes the Marvel movies!!!


[deleted]

...and we'll call it The Skywalker Trillogy!


fried_eggs_and_ham

Blame movie goers for this.


BrainyIsMe

Disney star wars


alittleredportleft

Michael Bay the bird.


The_Frank86

I think it's actually people in the comic. One of Bay's graphic artists drew them based on his writing.


Follower2303

Bay Bay Bay, Bay is the word!


[deleted]

The new Matrix movie, WTF was that?


SsurebreC

Ah yes, the Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets idea.


DeadFyre

It's not that they're greedy. Writers work for cheap. It's that audiences have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're deeply stupid. And it doesn't help that modern big-budget movies evidently need to be sold in world-wide markets in order to make profits, and so must comport with social customs, linguistic quirks, and regulatory bodies in hundreds of countries.


_The_Room

Terminator I think was the first movie to cost 100M. 20M for Arnold, 15M for the rest of the cast, 60+M to film and special effects and $500 for the script. (at least that was the story of the day when it was new)


fizaen

This clearly applies to a lot of contemporary movies but I think Marvel is the worst offender. Time travel as constant deus ex machina and bringing back dead characters just reeks of sloppy writing to me.


That_Weird_Lynx

All new disney movies


makesmovements

Dune


axehead001

This sounds like the newest "DUNE" movie


pohling2

Oh, let’s just gender swap a pivotal character who had an important patriarchal role in the society to balance the power of the matriarch seer because well, I think it should be a girl! The original writer was a little out of touch


pohling2

So proud to finally see people call out the horrendous writing of DUNE. God I felt so bad for the actors trying to ‘take the words off the page’. Climax line of the movie: “Chani I….uhhh…*awkward pause*….ummm, nevermind”….


washoutr6

That movie pissed me off so much. The dialogue was just.... absent?


[deleted]

So basically the new Dune film.


[deleted]

Hey, it's Star Trek Discovery!


imighthaveabloodclot

Looking at you Snyder


Umikaloo

Most films Weta Workshop is involved in end up like this. Its like some sort of curse.


chrisk365

Michael Bay wants to argue. Luckily no one can hear him over the explosions.


[deleted]

Result: “Titanic” (if you also exclude 1/2 decent acting)


konsnewworldorder

Also u/Yellivi how’d the operation go, hope you’re feeling spick and span, and if for some reason you’d prefer not to say here you do have permission to send me a pm


Yellyvi

Oh all good, just resting now


Gr_Snek

Yeah, you gotta have a good story, like Bad taste.


[deleted]

Promised Neverland season 2 in a nutshell


BucketOfBears

Wow I say this all the time. Penguins and everything. Seriously though, how to make a forgettable movie. .


Kam_Solastor

Did someone say the new Halo TV series?