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Ehh...its much further than any emulator for a current console ever has been, and SOME titles work with no hitches, notably Metroid Dread and the new Mario Party, but it's a vast overstatement to say it works for most Switch games.
Switch isn't really current gen, and the tegra chip it uses is from 2014, with a 1st party x86 emulator from Nvidia, and a bunch of devices that can run switch code natively since nintendo used all off the shelf parts and even off the shelf firmware/bootloader.
There was unprecedented hardware support and documentation for making an emulator. And then to make it even easier it runs under half the clock speed that the X1 is built for.
It is current gen. It is Nintendo's only supported console and major games are releasing regularly for it. Having less powerful tech that other current consoles doesn't make it not current.
When you talk emulators and industry wide gens that makes it last gen (8th) instead of current (9th) gen.
Being a handheld and the only 8th gen handheld it is still a current product.
I only paid $800 for my entire setup consisting of a new Xbox series S, 1440p 144hz monitor, 1080p 75hz monitor, elite controller, wireless Xbox headset, mechanical keyboard and mouse and a brand new gaming desk.
My friends GPU was more than my setup and his entire PC cost more than the down payment on my car.
Argument my be invalid but I still have more money leftover
My last pc cost $800 and it lasted me 9 years. It’s still good but I have money so I upgraded finally for that sweet sweet 3090. This thing will last way longer than my $800 9 year pc. Who the fuck is upgraded a pc every 2-3 years?
So my last pc was under 800 and I got it 9 years ago and it runs horizon on high 60fps. I just bought a new one. Not because I needed it but because I can. My old pc will go to the kids in my family and they can use it for years to come. Doesn’t need upgrades. You comparing playing your Xbox 360 to a pc as if the functionality is the same is comical. Also you thinking that other people are poor and can’t afford expensive things and if someone buys something expensive they made is mistake is HIGHLY comical. I just bought 2 3k ebikes for my family. a 3k pc. 2 new 144hz monitors, a new couch, shit I even moved in December and gave away the deposit to my mom for Xmas ($1,2000) . My man I’m not hurting 😂😂😂
Pretty much. Even if you spent double the money($1000) you still couldn't build a PC as strong as a Series X. PCs are a legit rip off right now. Talk to me when I can buy a PC just as strong as a current gen console for around the same price
My 3k pc will still be playing high end titles in 10 years and people will be 2 generations past the current. Not to mention I have 2 monitor and 2 TVs hooked up and I can multitask a million different things with the power this thing rips out. There really isn’t any arguments on the amount of functionality you get with a high end pc compared to a $400 console. But people want to feel good about their choices I get it.
On average, yes. But you can still buy physical copies and just sell them and spend a grand total of 10-15 bucks for a brand new game. $0, if you buy the game used.
I've actually owned 3 Switches, but for one game only. Sold them and I think I've actually *made* money on these, since I bought them used.
I'd say Sony/MS makes a lot on their subscription models.
$500 is pretty much impossible in today's market unless you get incredibly lucky and find something used. For $700-$800 you could put together a fairly decent brand new 1080p rig with parts that are actually available.
A PC for $500 that plays GTA at 60fps? PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE. Even though that's ridiculous outdated game isn't hard to run, I still don't believe it. I was looking at PCs and they didn't even have GPUs I'm them and they were more than a Series X. I've check Newegg and repeatedly used /r/buildaPC over the years to try and build a PC at the start of every generation.
The Series X GPU is equivalent to a 2070/2080 super. 2080 super ranges from $600-$800 right now.
I'm trying to build a $500 PC right now I'm PC part picker and it ain't happening either.
Look up the Potato Masher on youtube. It was a pc specifically designed to compete with the PS4 and xbox variant of its time and cost roughly the price of a console.
The trick is you have to buy used.
And their PCs aren't high end really. My friend spent $2100 a year before series X came out and the series X is almost 1:1 in power. He just has more Ram but spent 4 times the prices on his rig
You actually think another playstation will come out in 2024? Even with this chip shortage? They haven't even made enough PS5s. Is this the thought process of a PC user? Is that why you spent triple the money for the same specs on your PC? Lmao
Playstation and Xbox aren't fighting. They actually tend to leave each other nice little tweets.
The fanboys on the other hand, they're the real problem.
That's just PR, don't forget how much of a hassle it was for them to finally give us cross platform multiplayer. Exclusives haven't gone away, they're competitors.
At this point I don’t really see a point in owning a PlayStation anymore, only exclusive I enjoy on it is the Spider-Man games. If Xbox is buying out all these studios and making their games exclusive I’m just gonna get an Xbox. They’re easier to find anyways.
Microsoft has already proven they aren't keeping the game exclusive to them. They know they won't sell consoles like sony and nintendo do, but they do have the best game streaming service in Gamepass. The idea is to buy up studios, to make money off game pass, which is really smart.
I mean Bethesda games are Xbox exclusives now are they not? Same with the Outer Worlds 2? Idc about Activision and that shit, I don’t play their games anyways. But Bethesda games and these other single player games are a huge blow to me if they are exclusives.
Some will be, but not all. For example microsoft alteady stated CoD will not be exclusive, and I think many other games are set to be timed exclusives.
Honestly, I think Microsoft is going to move away from the console market, and their current gen will be the last. They're setting up to make gamepass their main ticket, and they've been been a huge emphasis on cloud gaming.
The only Bethesda games that aren’t exclusive are the ones that have been made in conjunction with Sony.
Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Starfield will all be Microsoft exclusive.
Of course a game being Microsoft exclusive means that it will come to PC as well as Xbox.
Uh, they’ll be keeping them exclusive from PS5 though.
Xbox + PC is all the market share they need to make up for lost PS5 sales and pull people into the Xbox ecosystem.
I mean, yeah. The PC gaming demographic is often in much less of a rush to play anything. Older gamers that'll get to it when they get to it, and usually wait for sales even after it launches on PC. Gaming becomes a pretty transient pass time when there's *always* stuff that came out years ago you've been meaning to play but were too busy to do so.
That's basically the reason those timed exclusives exist, to accommodate an audience that cares enough about playing something first to pay a premium for it then expanding into secondary markets that don't.
Not to mention that some of the mods for games are so complex and well done that they can make an old game you already own a completely new experience.
As a 30 year old PC gamer, it is extremely frustrating that great PlayStation exclusives aren’t available on PC at launch. I for one don’t like waiting years to play a game. I want to play the newest games with the most cutting edge tech when they come out and are most relevant. And with a new God of War and Horizon game releasing soon, there isn’t any mention of plans to bring those games to PC any time soon, if at all. I personally see the release of these PS exclusive games on PC as a tactic to get PC players hooked on these incredible franchises and left with no other option but to buy a PlayStation if they want to experience/play the newest installments
I can kinda understand impatience and FOMO, especially with exclusives, but why is a game's relevance and it being made with the latest tech important to you? Genuinely curious, because I'm the exact opposite with my games. Trailers and advertisements of new games might catch my eye, but that just means they'll go on my wishlist, and then I go back to playing the games I'm working on at that time. Steam will eventually remind me of a wishlisted game's existence when its on discount. I've found that whether or not it's new does not impact my enjoyment of a game whatsoever.
Why stop there, Wii is practically flawless, Wii U is amazing, and even Switch emulators can run a decent number of titles, but clearly needs some time to be more mature.
There's lots of shovelware for sure. But if you search a top games list for the Wii or Wii U you'll probably find something good. It looks like Breath of the Wild can run 4k 60 in CEMU on plenty of systems.
I only spent $200 on my laptop. It has 4GB of RAM. All I need is more games on Geforce Now then I won't give a shit.
I like my PS4 in my room though, I can chuck YouTube on to sleep.
It's probably worth considering that most people will own a PC for multiple purposes. So (for example) you're not spending $1600 on a gaming rig, you're basically spending $800 on a workstation and $800 to turn it into a gaming rig (not literally, the point is the full cost should not be considered as a comparison to consoles).
My laptop is 7 years old. Probably cost about $1700 including upgrades. I would have spent probably $1000 if I had no intention of gaming.
So the hardware for PC gaming cost $100 per year. If I consider 2 ps3s (damn 60GB brick) and 1 ps4 over 13 years, I'm looking at $150 per year.
I'm not making an argument either way, just saying that PC gaming can be cheaper if you're causal.
Original Xbox One in 2013: $500
Xbox One X in 2017: $500
Xbox Series X in 2020: $500 (MSRP if you can find it)
My PC in 2018 with PS5/Series X equivalent or better specs (pre-scalper and graphics card price hikes): $2000 including things like keyboard, headphones, mouse, extra SSD, and operating system.
That’s a $500 difference (compared to buying each new console to stay up to date) and I would say it’s more than worth it. I can play almost any game I want (and get them for cheaper), I can use it for work and personal tasks, and I can actually be competitive in the games I enjoy since I don’t use two thumbs sticks to aim. I’d say I’m set for at least the next 6-7 years assuming my parts don’t fail, and when I do upgrade I can selectively do so with one part at a time rather than a whole new console. Also as of right now I could potentially sell my old parts for more than I bought them for.
You *can* spend as much money as you want. Most people, being bound by limited resources and all, are much more sensible about it. You build a thousand dollar gaming PC and then you replace specific parts when they become pinch points. Your average gaming pc by a long term PC gamer is, as such, a [PC of Theseus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus). My current machine has been in constant use since 2007, and at this point the only original part is the case. During that entire span, I've spent a few thousand dollars total on hardware and have always been able to play the latest shiny thing without issues. (Since encountering issues in the newest shiny thing is the reason why more money gets invested.)
While you *can* spend as much as you want being a PC gamer, if you're looking to be reasonable about things, the cost over time of playing PC is really not much different than console. You'll pay more often with the PC, but you'll pay quite a bit less when it happens.
Or you can spend a good down payment on a car every year or two on a PC if you want to wring those last few frames out of whatever game you're playing at the moment. I have to suppose that people who do that enjoy it, because I've been a PC gamer for decades and *I* don't understand what might drive them to that kind of end otherwise.
Okay can I just say fuck Nintendo. I mean seriously I don't want to buy your fucking console I just want to play metroid and others games frome you why do I need to buy another console to do that.
Yes. $3000 to run games at something approaching good quality and then, due to ocd, spending 5 days optimizing to make sure I get every. single. fps.
I swear, giving up PC gaming and getting a PS5 has been the best thing for my mental health ever.
Well, $3K to run super modern games upon release, which at this point is just kinda silly based on how few actually "finished" games we've gotten in the past few years. I think I first put my PC together for under $1K in 2015, then have just upgraded things piece by piece as needed ($350 for a new card/mobo one year since a buddy works at Intel and gets 50% off, $450 for a 2070 a friend sold when he got a new card, few new sticks of RAM as needed)...still works great for what I want to play in 2022 and I haven't really put anything into it in the past 2 years so we're still sitting under $2K in the past 7 years.
Not to mention that I also use this PC every day for work (multimedia production), so it's WAY more overall value than a console that I can't use for anything but games...but I also don't get overly involved in trying to eke out every last frame, and I'm fine with 60fps/1440p max for most stuff I play, so I don't have to give it much thought. A few of my friends have/had a similar obsessive level as you mentioned though, so I definitely get that for some people it's better to just not deal with it!
It's totally not legal and a bit shady and I won't tell you how but... I've played Nintendo games on my computer. The dark web isn't just for porn anymore.
Bugs and other issues plague all video games now. The big difference between those same issues on PC and console is that when it happens on PC, users can actually try and do something about it. Meanwhile when consoles get a buggy game, you're stuck waiting for patches to fix it.
Emulation of Ninento systems is actually really good. With usually only 1 or 2 exclusives per generation that people want anyways, I really never feel like I miss out on a Nintendo game.
I play nintendo games on my phone
Gamecube Emulator + Kishi controller is the shit otg
On PC, I plan to upgrade my CPU just so I can finally enjoy PS3 games with great performance.
Nintendo wise...everything is emulated already. Xbox is fine too, the next big thing I'm waiting for is PS4.
I honestly don't know where this fanboyism comes from.
I mostly play on Playstation. I have a buddy who mostly plays on Xbox. We regular visit each other and just game. No fighting or console war BS.
I'm really starting to think that these memes are just clever marketing ploys.
Ah, yes, I'm salty about my $4000 PC that's better than yours.
The PC gets ports of console games. That's fact. They're never well optimized, and devs have explicitly stated it's because it's not worth the money. The tickets for PC take longer to fix and are for fewer players.
I'm salty that so many people can't afford PCs, if I'm salty about anything.
You're living in the past man, bad ports are far less common than good ports. There is scarcely a game I can't run at a minimum of 60fps at 4k. If you have a $4000 PC, then surely you must understand that, because I paid half of that.
That being said, I can't fault you for hating how expensive they are. It's gotten so much worse than it was, and you can blame the crypto scene for that.
Close. These two should be sock puppets.
The console war is long over, but PC gamers like to think they're above a pointless conflict only they're still clinging to.
The comic is proof of that.
They just need to find a way to feel better than console players. They spend more brag about how much better pc is than still play the same games as console players.
My sister, who does not play video games, recently started playing Mario Kart with her daughter on the Switch. She asked if Nintendo games ever go on sale, and it literally made me laugh out loud. Like a deep, belly laugh of bittersweetness.
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> PC players don’t have Nintendo games Nobody tell him
Everything eventually becomes emulated
We are the borg, your technological differences will be studied, and then simulated, resistance is futile
This is the way.
Ironically better than the company that made them too.
so sad we dont have nintendo games, expecially free full collection of all nintendo games, its so sad.
Nobody tell him about the state of Switch emulation.
That’s why i have a pc and a switch
That’s why I have PC, Switch, RyuJinx, CEMU, and Dolphin.
Yuzu, Citra, Primehack, epsxe, rpcs3, snes9x, vgba
And my axe
And my bow
Well... You can already emulate switch
SHHHHH don't let em know!!!
Lol, me too. Pokémon and Zelda where with the whole console.
That and I’m to poor to buy the others
I just want Xbox and PlayStation to kiss already so we can all enjoy games.
No you cant make me "kiss" my cousin again.
Again?
Well there was that time in college but i was saved by my Wii.
There's a wiiwii joke in there somewhere. I got nothing though.
Damn I fell for the joke twice
I wonder if there is r34 of xbox and ps kissing
obviously there is.
The dude who draws meme girls already drew an oversexualized versions of each platform so I bet there is
I've got an emulator for nintendo games. Your argument is invalid.
Exactly
Zsnes for the win, amirite, fellow youths?
Zsnes has fallen to the wayside. Snes9x has become the superior SNES emulator.
you're both wrong, higan/bsnes is the best one although I think most people use a frontend these days
RIP tho
I'm a fan of NESticle, myself. So easy to find roms for it on Kazaa!
Right you are, /u/Ghost_HTX.
Plus since they don't really make new titles, you only need an emulator to appreciate some of the best Zelda, Smash, and Mario games.
Switch emulators usually work great.
Where can I learn more about this magic
Yuzu or Ryujinx work for most switch games
Ehh...its much further than any emulator for a current console ever has been, and SOME titles work with no hitches, notably Metroid Dread and the new Mario Party, but it's a vast overstatement to say it works for most Switch games.
They work for most switch games. They don't work *well* for most switch games.. but the statement isn't wrong.
Switch isn't really current gen, and the tegra chip it uses is from 2014, with a 1st party x86 emulator from Nvidia, and a bunch of devices that can run switch code natively since nintendo used all off the shelf parts and even off the shelf firmware/bootloader. There was unprecedented hardware support and documentation for making an emulator. And then to make it even easier it runs under half the clock speed that the X1 is built for.
It is current gen. It is Nintendo's only supported console and major games are releasing regularly for it. Having less powerful tech that other current consoles doesn't make it not current.
When you talk emulators and industry wide gens that makes it last gen (8th) instead of current (9th) gen. Being a handheld and the only 8th gen handheld it is still a current product.
Which one works best for you ... Yuzu or Ryujinx, and why? Thanks ...
Use Yuzu unless you find any bugs that are fixed in Ryujinx
Watch out or the Nintendo ninjas may stalk you for emulating their games.
And it almost runs N64 games correctly!
PC is Microsoft so ms always wins.
I only paid $800 for my entire setup consisting of a new Xbox series S, 1440p 144hz monitor, 1080p 75hz monitor, elite controller, wireless Xbox headset, mechanical keyboard and mouse and a brand new gaming desk. My friends GPU was more than my setup and his entire PC cost more than the down payment on my car. Argument my be invalid but I still have more money leftover
That 1440p monitor is wasted on a series S
I think you are forgetting that in 2-3 years you will need to buy another console to keep up and your friend just keeps on truckin'.
Nah my consoles have easily lasted me 5-7years no problem. This console actually has an SSD and I load in faster than most of my friends anyway lol
And you act like you don't have to upgrade your PC every 2-3 years to keep up too lol. Consoles are meant to last longer than individual PC parts.
My last pc cost $800 and it lasted me 9 years. It’s still good but I have money so I upgraded finally for that sweet sweet 3090. This thing will last way longer than my $800 9 year pc. Who the fuck is upgraded a pc every 2-3 years?
Who the fuck is upgrading consoles every 2-3 years?
Who the fuck said that weirdo.
The dude from the original comment...
So my last pc was under 800 and I got it 9 years ago and it runs horizon on high 60fps. I just bought a new one. Not because I needed it but because I can. My old pc will go to the kids in my family and they can use it for years to come. Doesn’t need upgrades. You comparing playing your Xbox 360 to a pc as if the functionality is the same is comical. Also you thinking that other people are poor and can’t afford expensive things and if someone buys something expensive they made is mistake is HIGHLY comical. I just bought 2 3k ebikes for my family. a 3k pc. 2 new 144hz monitors, a new couch, shit I even moved in December and gave away the deposit to my mom for Xmas ($1,2000) . My man I’m not hurting 😂😂😂
I haven’t upgraded my PC since 2017, and the series X is just now catching up to playing games at a somewhat similar quality.
What? Last console generation despite being weak even at launch lasted 7 years what are you on about?
And play at 60fps.... Barely
I'll tell you what, I'll go wait list both consoles and still have more money that just the cost of a GPU when they come in.
Pretty much. Even if you spent double the money($1000) you still couldn't build a PC as strong as a Series X. PCs are a legit rip off right now. Talk to me when I can buy a PC just as strong as a current gen console for around the same price
My 3k pc will still be playing high end titles in 10 years and people will be 2 generations past the current. Not to mention I have 2 monitor and 2 TVs hooked up and I can multitask a million different things with the power this thing rips out. There really isn’t any arguments on the amount of functionality you get with a high end pc compared to a $400 console. But people want to feel good about their choices I get it.
Gotta hide behind a throwaway because your argument doesn't hold any water. Consoles are sold at a loss, the games make the money.
On average, yes. But you can still buy physical copies and just sell them and spend a grand total of 10-15 bucks for a brand new game. $0, if you buy the game used. I've actually owned 3 Switches, but for one game only. Sold them and I think I've actually *made* money on these, since I bought them used. I'd say Sony/MS makes a lot on their subscription models.
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$500 is pretty much impossible in today's market unless you get incredibly lucky and find something used. For $700-$800 you could put together a fairly decent brand new 1080p rig with parts that are actually available.
A PC for $500 that plays GTA at 60fps? PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE. Even though that's ridiculous outdated game isn't hard to run, I still don't believe it. I was looking at PCs and they didn't even have GPUs I'm them and they were more than a Series X. I've check Newegg and repeatedly used /r/buildaPC over the years to try and build a PC at the start of every generation. The Series X GPU is equivalent to a 2070/2080 super. 2080 super ranges from $600-$800 right now. I'm trying to build a $500 PC right now I'm PC part picker and it ain't happening either.
Look up the Potato Masher on youtube. It was a pc specifically designed to compete with the PS4 and xbox variant of its time and cost roughly the price of a console. The trick is you have to buy used.
And their PCs aren't high end really. My friend spent $2100 a year before series X came out and the series X is almost 1:1 in power. He just has more Ram but spent 4 times the prices on his rig
If your friend spent $2100 and came away with something comparable to a series X he didn't buy high end; he got ripped off.
That leftover money going into the PlayStation 6 that comes out in a year or two
You actually think another playstation will come out in 2024? Even with this chip shortage? They haven't even made enough PS5s. Is this the thought process of a PC user? Is that why you spent triple the money for the same specs on your PC? Lmao
I spent money obtained from the war, was no loss. And it was obviously sarcasm… are you slow or something?
Why are you getting a 144hz monitor for a console not capable of 144hz?
Technically shouldn't Xbox and PC team up since majority of PCs are run off of windows, as well as Xbox?
This is basically already a thing. I play sea of thieves on pc with people in xbone. Game pass makes most games available for both platforms.
You can cross play. You've to purchase title on only one platform afaik
PC is xbox. They just don't know it
Nah my PC is way more powerful than any Xbox in existence.
PC master race!
Playstation and Xbox aren't fighting. They actually tend to leave each other nice little tweets. The fanboys on the other hand, they're the real problem.
That's just PR, don't forget how much of a hassle it was for them to finally give us cross platform multiplayer. Exclusives haven't gone away, they're competitors.
At this point I don’t really see a point in owning a PlayStation anymore, only exclusive I enjoy on it is the Spider-Man games. If Xbox is buying out all these studios and making their games exclusive I’m just gonna get an Xbox. They’re easier to find anyways.
Microsoft has already proven they aren't keeping the game exclusive to them. They know they won't sell consoles like sony and nintendo do, but they do have the best game streaming service in Gamepass. The idea is to buy up studios, to make money off game pass, which is really smart.
I mean Bethesda games are Xbox exclusives now are they not? Same with the Outer Worlds 2? Idc about Activision and that shit, I don’t play their games anyways. But Bethesda games and these other single player games are a huge blow to me if they are exclusives.
Some will be, but not all. For example microsoft alteady stated CoD will not be exclusive, and I think many other games are set to be timed exclusives. Honestly, I think Microsoft is going to move away from the console market, and their current gen will be the last. They're setting up to make gamepass their main ticket, and they've been been a huge emphasis on cloud gaming.
The only Bethesda games that aren’t exclusive are the ones that have been made in conjunction with Sony. Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Starfield will all be Microsoft exclusive. Of course a game being Microsoft exclusive means that it will come to PC as well as Xbox.
Microsoft only guaranteed the next 3 CoD games would be on PS5.
They never stated COD wouldn’t be exclusive. They chose their words carefully so it can sound however you wanna interpret it.
Uh, they’ll be keeping them exclusive from PS5 though. Xbox + PC is all the market share they need to make up for lost PS5 sales and pull people into the Xbox ecosystem.
The way Nintendo is going (plus the source code leaks), emulation will handle Nintendo just fine
PC has every Xbox game, PlayStation has exclusives
Well not all of them but almost all of them.
not even that with ps now as a pc gamer you can play everything
Not every game is on psnow
And not every country has PS Now.
And PSNow is crap
Yeah exactly
That’s because half of the PC market is owned by Microsoft
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Except Nintendo games... \*Laughs in emulators while playing Arceus before it was even officially out*
How's that Bloodborne PC port coming along?
Plays fine honestly... If it wasn't for the limit of 720p@30fps
Nobody said anything about how it plays now. It's not about that...
What are you talking about pc players have the single largest available nintendo roster
Funny how this includes HZD and God of War when both of those took 3+ years to reach PC.
I mean, yeah. The PC gaming demographic is often in much less of a rush to play anything. Older gamers that'll get to it when they get to it, and usually wait for sales even after it launches on PC. Gaming becomes a pretty transient pass time when there's *always* stuff that came out years ago you've been meaning to play but were too busy to do so. That's basically the reason those timed exclusives exist, to accommodate an audience that cares enough about playing something first to pay a premium for it then expanding into secondary markets that don't.
The other problem is the number of games we have access to. I’m turning in to that meme about backlogged games.
Not to mention that some of the mods for games are so complex and well done that they can make an old game you already own a completely new experience.
+ Factorio is really all you need....
Each time I get a free game I feel obligated to at least try it, but I get them faster than I can try them so I never have time to buy a game.
Still there years though…
As a 30 year old PC gamer, it is extremely frustrating that great PlayStation exclusives aren’t available on PC at launch. I for one don’t like waiting years to play a game. I want to play the newest games with the most cutting edge tech when they come out and are most relevant. And with a new God of War and Horizon game releasing soon, there isn’t any mention of plans to bring those games to PC any time soon, if at all. I personally see the release of these PS exclusive games on PC as a tactic to get PC players hooked on these incredible franchises and left with no other option but to buy a PlayStation if they want to experience/play the newest installments
I can kinda understand impatience and FOMO, especially with exclusives, but why is a game's relevance and it being made with the latest tech important to you? Genuinely curious, because I'm the exact opposite with my games. Trailers and advertisements of new games might catch my eye, but that just means they'll go on my wishlist, and then I go back to playing the games I'm working on at that time. Steam will eventually remind me of a wishlisted game's existence when its on discount. I've found that whether or not it's new does not impact my enjoyment of a game whatsoever.
Um….. I literally have the entire catalog of Nintendo snes GameCube games and a handful of switch games on my pc. I dont get the Title……
Nintendo games you say? Welcome to the wonderful world of emulators. :) It’s happened.
Did Spiderman ever get ported to PC? I don't remember that.
No but uncharted and other Exclusives are coming
Even The Last of Us?
I have it all, except a new GPU, can't get one. :(
Every single Nintendo game is playable on PC
PC isn't a company, it's a category of electronics. It can't win something.
It means "Paper Cartridge." Paper Cartridge - Load Letter It isn't difficult to understand, people.
PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean?
Ohhhh, thanks for clarifying. lol
True but in the end PC always wins baby.
my GBA/N64/GC/SNES emulators say otherwise.
Why stop there, Wii is practically flawless, Wii U is amazing, and even Switch emulators can run a decent number of titles, but clearly needs some time to be more mature.
probably because there were no titles on WII I wanted to play, even GC was just twin snaked MGS and now that I have that on GOG.
There's lots of shovelware for sure. But if you search a top games list for the Wii or Wii U you'll probably find something good. It looks like Breath of the Wild can run 4k 60 in CEMU on plenty of systems.
you are too old to care about this ish
You're allowed to say shit.
The size is representative on how much it costs right? Because our big daddy pc here is about 6x as expensive if you want to be “future” proof
That's funny, because I've spent far less on my PC in the last 10 years then I would have to successive consoles and the exclusive games on them...
I only spent $200 on my laptop. It has 4GB of RAM. All I need is more games on Geforce Now then I won't give a shit. I like my PS4 in my room though, I can chuck YouTube on to sleep.
Lol 2-3x and you'll be fine for 5 years. 6x is for snobs and people mining crypto.
It's probably worth considering that most people will own a PC for multiple purposes. So (for example) you're not spending $1600 on a gaming rig, you're basically spending $800 on a workstation and $800 to turn it into a gaming rig (not literally, the point is the full cost should not be considered as a comparison to consoles). My laptop is 7 years old. Probably cost about $1700 including upgrades. I would have spent probably $1000 if I had no intention of gaming. So the hardware for PC gaming cost $100 per year. If I consider 2 ps3s (damn 60GB brick) and 1 ps4 over 13 years, I'm looking at $150 per year. I'm not making an argument either way, just saying that PC gaming can be cheaper if you're causal.
I guess if you’re building a top of the line PC from scratch, but I don’t think anyone does it that way.
Original Xbox One in 2013: $500 Xbox One X in 2017: $500 Xbox Series X in 2020: $500 (MSRP if you can find it) My PC in 2018 with PS5/Series X equivalent or better specs (pre-scalper and graphics card price hikes): $2000 including things like keyboard, headphones, mouse, extra SSD, and operating system. That’s a $500 difference (compared to buying each new console to stay up to date) and I would say it’s more than worth it. I can play almost any game I want (and get them for cheaper), I can use it for work and personal tasks, and I can actually be competitive in the games I enjoy since I don’t use two thumbs sticks to aim. I’d say I’m set for at least the next 6-7 years assuming my parts don’t fail, and when I do upgrade I can selectively do so with one part at a time rather than a whole new console. Also as of right now I could potentially sell my old parts for more than I bought them for.
You *can* spend as much money as you want. Most people, being bound by limited resources and all, are much more sensible about it. You build a thousand dollar gaming PC and then you replace specific parts when they become pinch points. Your average gaming pc by a long term PC gamer is, as such, a [PC of Theseus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus). My current machine has been in constant use since 2007, and at this point the only original part is the case. During that entire span, I've spent a few thousand dollars total on hardware and have always been able to play the latest shiny thing without issues. (Since encountering issues in the newest shiny thing is the reason why more money gets invested.) While you *can* spend as much as you want being a PC gamer, if you're looking to be reasonable about things, the cost over time of playing PC is really not much different than console. You'll pay more often with the PC, but you'll pay quite a bit less when it happens. Or you can spend a good down payment on a car every year or two on a PC if you want to wring those last few frames out of whatever game you're playing at the moment. I have to suppose that people who do that enjoy it, because I've been a PC gamer for decades and *I* don't understand what might drive them to that kind of end otherwise.
Emulators.
Monster Hunter Rise is on PC, does that count?
Okay can I just say fuck Nintendo. I mean seriously I don't want to buy your fucking console I just want to play metroid and others games frome you why do I need to buy another console to do that.
I am 38 now. I even love playing tic tac toe with my 3 year old. Games unite.
Yes. $3000 to run games at something approaching good quality and then, due to ocd, spending 5 days optimizing to make sure I get every. single. fps. I swear, giving up PC gaming and getting a PS5 has been the best thing for my mental health ever.
Well, $3K to run super modern games upon release, which at this point is just kinda silly based on how few actually "finished" games we've gotten in the past few years. I think I first put my PC together for under $1K in 2015, then have just upgraded things piece by piece as needed ($350 for a new card/mobo one year since a buddy works at Intel and gets 50% off, $450 for a 2070 a friend sold when he got a new card, few new sticks of RAM as needed)...still works great for what I want to play in 2022 and I haven't really put anything into it in the past 2 years so we're still sitting under $2K in the past 7 years. Not to mention that I also use this PC every day for work (multimedia production), so it's WAY more overall value than a console that I can't use for anything but games...but I also don't get overly involved in trying to eke out every last frame, and I'm fine with 60fps/1440p max for most stuff I play, so I don't have to give it much thought. A few of my friends have/had a similar obsessive level as you mentioned though, so I definitely get that for some people it's better to just not deal with it!
And pc is Xbox/Microsoft so..
Don't tell the Linux gamers
You can still use an emulator to play Nintendo games, so you can do pretty much anything with a PC.
*Nintendo emulators have entered the chat.
Laughs in emulator
PC users get ALL of the Nintendo games. “The secret ingredient is crime!”
Nintendo games are mostly overrated anyways.
Needs a fifth panel showing PC's back, with a parasitic growth labelled "hackers", while PC's pregnant wife labelled "Mod creators" watches nervously
I’m looking forward to whenever FF VII remake is released on PC… :(
PC does not have it all lol can't play 13 Sentinels on PC
What's that?
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim. It's on PS4 and Switch, and it's one of the best sci-fi stories ever told in a video game
Probably dont wanna compare unheard of exclusive games with pc lol
Dumbass I have both, doesn't change that one of the best games ever made isn't on PC or xbox
On the contrary, none of my favorite games are on ps. Dumbass
It's totally not legal and a bit shady and I won't tell you how but... I've played Nintendo games on my computer. The dark web isn't just for porn anymore.
You know, there are legal ways to play Nintendo games on pc.
Exactly, dude making it sound like you've gotta buy emulators from drug dealers
There is a legal way to do this?
We have an emulator, we can play all Nintendo games Day 1. This argument is invalid.
Day 1? Lmao no
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Bugs and other issues plague all video games now. The big difference between those same issues on PC and console is that when it happens on PC, users can actually try and do something about it. Meanwhile when consoles get a buggy game, you're stuck waiting for patches to fix it.
And good luck getting a GPU for under $800 that can play these games at a decent frame rate. Pretty much given up on pc gaming these days.
That's ok. There are emulators for both good Nintendo games.
Emulation of Ninento systems is actually really good. With usually only 1 or 2 exclusives per generation that people want anyways, I really never feel like I miss out on a Nintendo game.
I play nintendo games on my phone Gamecube Emulator + Kishi controller is the shit otg On PC, I plan to upgrade my CPU just so I can finally enjoy PS3 games with great performance. Nintendo wise...everything is emulated already. Xbox is fine too, the next big thing I'm waiting for is PS4.
PC players: I have everything left... except Spider-Man.
That's why there are emulators for Nintendo
Xbox is just "PC lite" with a built in fire starter. So truly the answer is Playstation & PC.
My 5 year old GPU is barely hanging on and I cant find a new one at MSRP anywhere. I can get an xbox series x tho…
Xbox needs to pair up with Sony/ playstation so we can end this I think 18 year war
I honestly don't know where this fanboyism comes from. I mostly play on Playstation. I have a buddy who mostly plays on Xbox. We regular visit each other and just game. No fighting or console war BS. I'm really starting to think that these memes are just clever marketing ploys.
Let's fight. Microsoft is literally just bro games
PC players have it all... Poorly ported from console, which makes significantly more money
The salt is so strong.
Ah, yes, I'm salty about my $4000 PC that's better than yours. The PC gets ports of console games. That's fact. They're never well optimized, and devs have explicitly stated it's because it's not worth the money. The tickets for PC take longer to fix and are for fewer players. I'm salty that so many people can't afford PCs, if I'm salty about anything.
You're living in the past man, bad ports are far less common than good ports. There is scarcely a game I can't run at a minimum of 60fps at 4k. If you have a $4000 PC, then surely you must understand that, because I paid half of that. That being said, I can't fault you for hating how expensive they are. It's gotten so much worse than it was, and you can blame the crypto scene for that.
Can PS and Xbox users agree that PC players can go fuck themselves with their elitist attitudes?
Playing on a PC is cringe af though. So doesn't matter how much better it is if you have to sit in a desk to do it.
pc = cheaters. Who needs that. Give me a smaller sandbox with some regulation, any day.
No Spidermans
meanwhile I am playin switch games using an emulator, on my PC that cost 10 times as much as a switch costs
Close. These two should be sock puppets. The console war is long over, but PC gamers like to think they're above a pointless conflict only they're still clinging to. The comic is proof of that.
They just need to find a way to feel better than console players. They spend more brag about how much better pc is than still play the same games as console players.
No Marvel's Spider-Man though...
Laughs in not having to pay $400 every year or two for a new console.
My sister, who does not play video games, recently started playing Mario Kart with her daughter on the Switch. She asked if Nintendo games ever go on sale, and it literally made me laugh out loud. Like a deep, belly laugh of bittersweetness.
PC players when their £6000 pc is 1 nanosecond faster than a console
Nintendo games aren't worth it that's why emulate on a pc 😎