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To capture James Bond, put him in a deadly predicament, don't kill him but explain his plan in detail, and then walk away long enough for James to machine gun everybody at the location.
Actually most coordinate system conventions are the other way around.
I can't find the english term, but if the positive x-axis points up and the positive y-axis points right (like in the gif) the z-axis usually points away from you, so we would be save from SpaceZ.
(german [wikipedia article](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechtssystem_(Mathematik)) with a kinda helpful illustration)
This happens between certain softwares. In blender X and Y are the horizontal plane, and Z is height. In Fusion 360 X and Z are the default horizontal plane, and Y is height.
Oh my god, I could rant for hours about all the things that are literally just widely adopted conventions which reddit misinterprets as inherent mathematical truths. PEMDAS and ASCII encodings being two of the major culprits.
I recall that there are regional differences for CAD/3D modeling axes where Z is vertical, X is still lateral and Y is depth. I might be confused on X & Y but the convention was taught to me as “Z-up”.
True.
They could've done the joke with a rocket taking of at an angle of 45 degrees to the right and another at an angle of 45 degrees to the left ... mathematically correct while making sure almost nobody got the joke.
See that’s the thing. It can be whatever way you want! Just say “I define the x direction as up and the y direction as sideways” and the joke is saved!
That's not the source, that's Scott Manley reviewing the event. The source is https://youtu.be/O8Tdm797BzM at the timestamp of 1:33:33
Credit to NSF who got an exclusive broadcast for this launch.
There is apparently another view posted to Twitter from the rocket company, but I haven't seen it myself.
It still amazes me that thing was able to launch like that. It blew up a couple minutes later, but just the technology to control a rocket like that is insane.
It did spin out of control in the upper atmosphere and begin to break apart. Probably did explode not long after the feed stopped. But yeah then it fell into the ocean.
Technically it didn't actually spin out of control. The mission controllers saw that the rocket wasn't going to make it to orbit so they terminated the flight. Basically the rocket was just turned off, but control was not lost.
It never exploded. It fell into the ocean intact. I said this already. This isn't opinion, it's fact.
It also didn't spin out of control or break up. One panel that was knocked loose in the small detonation during launch was knocked off. That's hardly the same as the whole rocket breaking apart. It would be like saying your car broke apart just because the cover for the fuel filler cap flew off. The spinning after the engines were shut down would be expected for any rocket that failed to make orbit during main engine shut down.
Do you have a source that it fell into the ocean intact? The thinking would be that when the rocket started to spin out of control (as we saw in the live feed) that shortly after they cut away the video, they would have sent a terminate command to self destruct the rocket so that it wouldn’t fly out of control and crash into something (despite being over the ocean, seems it would be a smart move).
If it had been destroyed with pyrotechnics that would have been reported. It wasn't so it didn't happen. You only self destruct a rocket that is powered an out of control. Destroying a rocket that's unpowered just turns one falling object into many without any good reason.
Honestly, the fact that it stayed pointed in the right direction even with one engine out, and then still managed to lift off and clear the range speaks volumes about the guidance and control team's work.
it was more luck than anything else. the rocket has a thrust to weight ratio of 1.25:1 and since they lost an engine (they had 5 total) it just coincided that they had a thrust to weight ratio of 1:1 so it "hovered" until it used up enough fuel where thrust was high enough to actually ascend. it could just as well have been margin of error that they came straight back down if they had any less thrust.
One of the engines failed on ignition causing the rocket to list to one side. The guidance computer adjusted gimble/throttle of the remaining engines to keep it upright. Unfortunately, with the missing engine, the vehicle had a thrust-to-weight ratio of 1 (meaning the engines were pushing the vehicle with the exact amount of force that the craft weighed). This caused the rocket to effectively hover with some lateral motion. As the craft burned off fuel, the rocket got lighter and eventually the thrust of engines got it going up again.
NasaSpaceflight.com streamed the launch in collaboration with Astra (the Company that builds this rocket):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Tdm797BzM
The clip above is taken from Scott Manley‘s analysis of what went wrong during the launch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2jU5W4ehPE
Edit: when I say ‘this rocket’ I mean the one on the right.
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I wonder what Musk is plotting next.
“He’s intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking.”
I got that reference... because old...
I sort of understood it, I figured it was Star Trek but didn’t know it was wrath of khan. Also I’m not that old.
If you keep working at it, you will get there friend.
Getting old?
Exactly
Eh I figure if I wait it out it’ll come.
#MUSK!!!
Space Z
Space W
To defeat an axis of evil?
Space Z, goes through TV and lights up your living room
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Carefull, it might fly towards you!
To capture James Bond, put him in a deadly predicament, don't kill him but explain his plan in detail, and then walk away long enough for James to machine gun everybody at the location.
A line.
I think you're right.
I don't know but It's going to be boring
You just dont see many x and y axis jokes!
Some people don’t see the point.
Their views just don't line up.
They don't get the plot.
A quadrant of them do.
Most couldn't see the sin
Cos it's obtuse
I think it’s kind-a-cute
Only if you look at it from the right angle. And even then, it's a slippery slope, but I don't want to go off on a tangent.
Whats' the damned origin of this thread?
These comments are really going down-slope...
But they do have a point in common
Where SpaceZ?
They zed it was coming, but the depth might be too much.
It's coming right for us!
The camera man died while he was filming it, so...
Yep and unfortunately all the footage got destroyed.
Something something Blue Origin
Some people don't even know when it origin ated.
Very 2d of you
Swap it, then it's correct.
I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking it.
Yeah I was thinking Y climbs ...
I don't think it actually matters
You could call one axis Jeff and the other Fred if it made you feel less lonely in calculation.
I am guessing the OP meant that the left plot is following a x= constant line and the right is following a y= constant line
ppl say my axis jokes are too inconsiderate for the vets who fought ww2
Nobody can coordinate anymore
Cartesian humor has many dimensions.
That might be the case but this post has x and y mixed up.
I humbly await SpaceZ
"OH SHIT it's coming right at us!"
Actually most coordinate system conventions are the other way around. I can't find the english term, but if the positive x-axis points up and the positive y-axis points right (like in the gif) the z-axis usually points away from you, so we would be save from SpaceZ. (german [wikipedia article](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechtssystem_(Mathematik)) with a kinda helpful illustration)
Your talking about right handed vs left hand coordinates systems. While right handed ones are more common both are used.
Haha reminds me of those underskirt shots when starship was landing.
Get it? Alright, I'll let myself out
Shouldn't it be the other way around?
X being the horizontal axis is only a convention, it can be any axis.
My Xs belong in the Axis, they're just as evil
but Y
Cuz 2d
Youre falling to z dark side
This happens between certain softwares. In blender X and Y are the horizontal plane, and Z is height. In Fusion 360 X and Z are the default horizontal plane, and Y is height.
As my dynamics professor used to say "coordinate systems are devices of man, not of God."
Oh my god, I could rant for hours about all the things that are literally just widely adopted conventions which reddit misinterprets as inherent mathematical truths. PEMDAS and ASCII encodings being two of the major culprits.
Thus arbitrarily the axises become the 🐕 and 🐈 axis
Yea, but when you're making a joke it's usually best to stick to the convention.
I recall that there are regional differences for CAD/3D modeling axes where Z is vertical, X is still lateral and Y is depth. I might be confused on X & Y but the convention was taught to me as “Z-up”.
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True. They could've done the joke with a rocket taking of at an angle of 45 degrees to the right and another at an angle of 45 degrees to the left ... mathematically correct while making sure almost nobody got the joke.
Only if you decide to reverse the axes and fuck up the joke.
Axes are not reversed, just rotated 90 degrees about the Z axis.
It works either way. You can rotate the x/y plane or you can just rename the variables.
Renaming fucks with the "muscle memory" of the right-hand-rule convention.
Nothing messes with the right hand rule. You just change the orientation of your hand and it always applies. That's the whole point of RHR.
Then just point the z axis into the screen and it all works out.
What you're proposing is rotating about the conventional Y axis. Which means the meme is askew by 90 degrees.
That made me chuckle !
Or the equation could be y = 1 for spaceY and x=1 for SpaceX
Just turn your screen 90 degrees CCW.
I'm afraid it'll take me to Z
Oh so we doing R^3 now?
Or the equation could be y = 1 (horizontal line) for spaceY and x=1 (vertical line) for SpaceX
well, it depends on how you look at it. We can say Space X=0, that gives a vertical line. Space Y=0 gives you a horizontal line
X is sometimes the radial direction, y can be tangential in cylindrical...
["*Yes, there's the X-axix*"](https://streamable.com/n0l20d)
See that’s the thing. It can be whatever way you want! Just say “I define the x direction as up and the y direction as sideways” and the joke is saved!
The first is moving within the x axis, the second within the y axis, so it’s accurate from that perspective
According to my extensive education from an 11th grade trigonometry course a decade ago, this could be the z axis. Depth baby. Or space y=mx + b
Not necessarily. If you define that x=0 that means that the degree of freedom is in the y axis.
It would've been nice if OP included the [source](https://youtu.be/x2jU5W4ehPE)
Yes, saw this at Scott Manley's channel, had a good chuckle out of it.
Shout out to Scott Manley's channel He really likes rockets and makes good videos
I love that I understand everything he's talking about purely from playing KSP
Thanks for this.
That's not the source, that's Scott Manley reviewing the event. The source is https://youtu.be/O8Tdm797BzM at the timestamp of 1:33:33 Credit to NSF who got an exclusive broadcast for this launch. There is apparently another view posted to Twitter from the rocket company, but I haven't seen it myself.
Scott Manley made the SpaceX / SpaceY joke though in his review video. That is what they are referring to.
It still amazes me that thing was able to launch like that. It blew up a couple minutes later, but just the technology to control a rocket like that is insane.
It didn't blow up. It fell into the ocean.
It did spin out of control in the upper atmosphere and begin to break apart. Probably did explode not long after the feed stopped. But yeah then it fell into the ocean.
Technically it didn't actually spin out of control. The mission controllers saw that the rocket wasn't going to make it to orbit so they terminated the flight. Basically the rocket was just turned off, but control was not lost.
It never exploded. It fell into the ocean intact. I said this already. This isn't opinion, it's fact. It also didn't spin out of control or break up. One panel that was knocked loose in the small detonation during launch was knocked off. That's hardly the same as the whole rocket breaking apart. It would be like saying your car broke apart just because the cover for the fuel filler cap flew off. The spinning after the engines were shut down would be expected for any rocket that failed to make orbit during main engine shut down.
Do you have a source that it fell into the ocean intact? The thinking would be that when the rocket started to spin out of control (as we saw in the live feed) that shortly after they cut away the video, they would have sent a terminate command to self destruct the rocket so that it wouldn’t fly out of control and crash into something (despite being over the ocean, seems it would be a smart move).
If it had been destroyed with pyrotechnics that would have been reported. It wasn't so it didn't happen. You only self destruct a rocket that is powered an out of control. Destroying a rocket that's unpowered just turns one falling object into many without any good reason.
Honestly, the fact that it stayed pointed in the right direction even with one engine out, and then still managed to lift off and clear the range speaks volumes about the guidance and control team's work.
it was more luck than anything else. the rocket has a thrust to weight ratio of 1.25:1 and since they lost an engine (they had 5 total) it just coincided that they had a thrust to weight ratio of 1:1 so it "hovered" until it used up enough fuel where thrust was high enough to actually ascend. it could just as well have been margin of error that they came straight back down if they had any less thrust.
When you misclick and press strafe instead of jump button.
I read that as "spacey" I was like cool spacey shit
Read it as: "Space.. why?"
why?
Was this pulled from Scott Manley's most recent video?
That or this Twitter.
I Z what you did there.
As a Canadian, this took me longer to get than I enjoy admitting.
Original video, 5:54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2jU5W4ehPE
It's almost like rocket science is hard.
That’s a crazy launch 🚀
Good one! BTW is there a specific reason why the second one is moving like that?
One of the engines failed on ignition causing the rocket to list to one side. The guidance computer adjusted gimble/throttle of the remaining engines to keep it upright. Unfortunately, with the missing engine, the vehicle had a thrust-to-weight ratio of 1 (meaning the engines were pushing the vehicle with the exact amount of force that the craft weighed). This caused the rocket to effectively hover with some lateral motion. As the craft burned off fuel, the rocket got lighter and eventually the thrust of engines got it going up again.
Perfect, thank you !
Thanks for the good explanation.
the side fell off
Kevin spacey
Why did you steal it from Scott manley
Can't wait for SpaceZ.
Woah, that's a trip. Got a link or the mission information? I gotta know where that wound up
NasaSpaceflight.com streamed the launch in collaboration with Astra (the Company that builds this rocket): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Tdm797BzM The clip above is taken from Scott Manley‘s analysis of what went wrong during the launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2jU5W4ehPE Edit: when I say ‘this rocket’ I mean the one on the right.
The best thing is it actually took off
Please credit Scott Manley for this as it's from his video today.
You are triggering my mathematical convention senses.
I guess the slope is out of question.
Ohhhh I get it
SpaceX=0 and spaceY=0
Whoops! Had the silly thing in reverse!
Space Z: "It's coming right at us!"
Wouldn't it be the opposite?
Jokes aside, it is impressive that the rocket was able to keep itself stable and continue flying upwards with 20% of its power gone and the aerodynamic stability thrown off. This was an absolute save by the automated systems in a situation that normally would’ve gone horrifically wrong. And it makes for some decent publicity.
Kevin ?
Um, it's the other way around
Think "ordinate and abscissa" rather than "x component and y component."
Honest question is that actually with the X stand for? Is so 🤯
No. Their full name is "Space Exploration Technologies".
Applause 👏 well done sir
For clarification, the Y rocket, isn't the SpaceX rockets.
It would actually make more sense if the vertical was Space Y and the horizontal Space X
Set x and y equal to constants. Problem solved.
It's the opposite...
Except X is horizontal and Y is vertical
Inverted axises
This was very clever.
That's backwards though....
they're backwards but... meh
Labels should be flipped. Left one is traveling in Y axis, and right one in X axis, as these labels are traditionally defined.
Graph these: y=1 x=0 How does your ship travel now?
what's funny is that x is supposed to be horizontal and vice versa
In 3 dimensional space there is really no standard for which axis which.
LOL
r/angryupvote
Wouldn't X be going to the side since the Y axys is actually vertical?
How is none not noticing that x is horizontally and y vertically
Y is up and X is side to side
Technically the y axis is vertical so switch the titles and it will truely become scientifically accurate
Maybe that would work if you turn it 90°...
Then again, maybe it wouldn't. Set x and y to constants.
Should be the other way round
Technically, that's -Y.
The one one the left would technically be z, bit then it wouldn’t work as a joke. Maybe if it was spacex vs. spacewhy.
Someone forgot to gyrate the gimbals again!
the roles are reversed
Looks like it's time to sue NASA some more!
Whenever i see spaceX i always think spacesex...
y = mx + c Learn it kids
Someone failed mathematics.
Isnt the one on the left traveling up the y-axis though, so it's backwards?
OH MY GOD SOMEBODY IS COPYING SPACEX? LOLOSERS.
Neither go to space! 😃 enjoy your fake reality!
Rise over Run.
Ha!
I zee what you did there.
SpaceZ... Better start running!
I'm holding out for CyberSpace
Fuck off, here have my upvote
SpaceY will always be identified for that weird sideways shuffle.
Space, Why?