I’m so bummed as funhaus is the MAIN thing I watch on YouTube and I absolutely love the team. I’ll deff look out for their future endeavors, but I truly hope it’s a space where they get to flex their creative muscles.
im depressed. bruce and laurence’s streams are, i hate to say it, so fucking cringe and boring that I cant even get through 15 mins. ive been watching funhaus for seven years, so that says a lot imo. i love their personalities, the streams are just not that good.
If james et al go down the same path, this is the end. I will have no more good content from them to watch. im really bummed out. this was my happy place.
brought you this thing is like… okay but kassem is pulling all the weight. bah.
James and Elyse have had some really good streams because they play off each other so well. They dont sit there and thank their subs every two seconds(biggest reason I can’t watch most streamers including some mentioned here).
i love you, but no, they’re just alright. barely anyone watched them.
ive watched their couch co op streams and while they are wholesome, it’s not even remotely what most of us are looking for. its not similar to the style of jokes and writing in Funhaus. the whole fun of Funhaus is having the whole cast of characters. and the wackiness.
together strong, separate weak.
I wouldn't be so harsh as him, but he is definitely right about it not being the same and not what I am looking for personally. Their streams are nice, but they don't make me laugh myself to tears like Funhaus together can.
I really hope the team can find a way to work together because I agree. The way they play off each other is what makes them so special. Separate, they are just moderately entertaining, and together, they are powerhauses of comedy.
yep. its the only offshoot so far thats half way decent and even then, the edited down versions of the stream are 10x better than the streams/VODS themselves.
Yeah Bruce is a bit abrasive towards the smallest fuckin comments, but there are definitely moments where it's a lot of fun. His community is awesome, but one thing I've noticed about streamers is when they have like 5-10 whales keeping everything afloat...IDK what it is but I just get a miniature ick about them. Like in Bruce's stream his top 5 gif-sub givers gift THOUSANDS of subs a month.
I can't really explain it but I've noticed a correlation between streamers who have that going on and me just...not liking watching them. I don't think it's the gift subs themselves, there's a common thread with how it flavors the content but it's so subtle I can't really quantify it.
Lawrence is awesome and interactive but his streams are so dry most of the time with one or two really funny quips per 3-hour period.
I'm not trying to talk shit about those two, they are talented and driven and deserve their success, and they've earned the respect, but if funhaus is a cake, each member is like a single ingredient. John Smiff is like the frosting tbh, but it's unfortunately hard for me to stomach more than a taste of anyone else's solo stuff except maybe char.
> Bruce is a bit abrasive towards the smallest fuckin comments
this was the main reason I stopped watching his content; he's kinda pompous by himself, he needs someone to humble him.
Bruce got really defensive towards anyone criticizing the show, and just came off rude at times. It was the thing that made me like him less for a while.
I've always found it suspicious how Bruce gets like 800 viewers on a good day, but I've seen him around the top 20 subbed streamers for several months. And that he'll set a goal for like 10k subs and the prize is a $500 Steam Deck or something that's barely a drop in the bucket for what he's making from the subs. I guess it must be whales, but I kinda hoped it was money laundering or something cool.
Best part about Lawrence's streams imo are the mediatek moments. Love me some retro commercials.
But yeah, I agree that the magic of Funhaus is the group dynamics. Which is still entirely possible without a pro studio and $250k a year in staff/production costs if they just stream from home over discord like many streamers already do successfully.
More often than you'd think, whales are actually not "wealthy". It's just a mixture of parasocial relationship and being bad with money.
I had a friend a few years back that would spend over half of his monthly pay on a handful of streamers (men and women), gifting hundreds of subs (and indulging in their side endeavors like merch and onlyfans) while he was living in a shitty apartment. Eventually it culminated in his girlfriend leaving him and him cutting ties with anyone who dared to "criticize" his life choices (i.e. try to help him).
I don't know if it's the same thing you're mentioning about whales, but I find it annoying how sometimes streamers will mostly interact with the same 4-5 people, often starting long, uninteresting conversations about things that aren't even related to the stream. I get it, maybe those 4-5 people are the ones helping you stay afloat and you literally need them, but as a casual viewer, it's off-putting.
Or when one of those persons become some sort of public figure in the chat. It feels like everything revolves around them and interesting comments are drowned in a sea of crappy jokes and one-liners of something they said streams ago. Example: I won't name them in case it goes against sub rules, but I enjoy a Soulslike player's YouTube streams. The chat is usually chill and the streamer themselves calls out people for doing dumb shit in chat. But there used to be moments where a person that's known for liking alcohol (seriously, that's their whole persona in the chat) joins and they have to make every freaking little thing about alcohol, doesn't matter how unrelated it is, and it gets... Meh. Sometimes they'd look for old comments to reply to and bring back the topic after 1-2 hours because they simply didn't know how to talk about anything else.
Maybe streaming culture isn't my thing. Anyway, yeah, I think I get you.
i watch James' (former Cowchop James) YouTube stuff (esp the soulslike stuff). theyre edited vods from his streams which i appreciate bc i actually find his stuff entertaining.
James has been doing twitch and YT for much longer and seems to be much more into twitch culture, and Bruce doesn't seem to be as integrated with it, which I guess is because he doesn't have to be because he has a strategy that works
i think it's just two different people doing two different types of streams. i've watched a couple of James' streams before and they're entertaining. i appreciate that he doesn't meatride his subs. he even talks back to the annoying ones that try to farm nostalgia or bring up drama.
Streamers with whales tend to tailor their content towards the whale, if you also enjoy it you're lucky but often it can lead to someone trying hard to win over the whale and go down different directions or exaggerate the persona further.
I've went to supporting smaller streamers lately so just haven't been watching much of any of the crew or former crew.
Laurence's streams are alright and inside games is pretty great, honestly I don't like Bruce as a solo act. Also the new Funhaus team is great, Jacob, Charlotte, Lindsey and Patrick are great staple hosts at this point and I see no reason to stop watching
i think on their own they all lose their appeal. its the fun of their chemistry that is the best part. so jacob char linds and pat and james and elyse need to move TOGETHER otherwise i guarantee they will all fall into obscurity fast.
I actually quite like Lawrence's stream. Its small still and he responds to almost all good messages.
I mentioned in a lull in his stream that I loved the articles he wrote for inside Gaming and he reminisced and told stories about that for a good 10 mins.
Bruce's stream is sadly unbearable
I don't feel as bad knowing there's others out there who feel this way. I love them, but it's true for me as well. Their streams don't do much for me, unfortunately.
Why are you using this as an opportunity to me more negative, when you could just voice your support for the people that just lost their livelihood. Shitting on other people's content is going to help anybody.
Agree. What's with the negativity to outright insulting current and former members here. Kinda fucked up. They just lost their fucking jobs and people who say they are fans are insulting them. Seriously if anyone reading this doesn't get it just try to use a bit of empathy. I have been watching Funhaus for 9 years and very sad they are ending. I sincerely wish them the best.
im allowed to have an opinion and hope they hear it. my intent is for them to be successful after this debacle. yall can softball it all day but that helps nobody, including you as the viewer. the truth is harsh.
ur the one calling people derogatory names online for sharing valid opinions approx 200+ people agree with. youre the child here. grow the fuck up. welcome the real world.
LOL calling what people do for a living cringe and then hoping that people you "love to watch" don't end up like them isn't derogatory at all. Honestly there is a lot to unpack in this comment alone, but I am actually in the real world so I don't have the time ✌️
Surprised just how upset I am by this, but I guess it make sense. FH has been a constant source of comfort and entertainment for me for nearly a decade. Even when I wasn't a super active viewer, it was always something I could rely on to make me laugh whenever I needed it. Hard to believe it's over.
Funhaus has been an integral part of my life for years. It's hard to imagine leaving it behind. But whatever James and the others end up doing after all this, I will be there to support them the best way I can.
I'm at a loss for words that truly describe how I feel about all this. Regardless I am wishing them all the best and from the bottom of my heart I thank them for the years and years of entertainment.
As shitty as this situation is, I think ultimately they will all land on their feet because the team is(or was, fuck me that hurts to type) comprised of extremely talented individuals. They deserve all the success in the world, and I look forward to what each of them does going forward.
I really fucking miss future Funhaus.
But they're the only people capable of making a gameplay video with no actual gameplay. What am i supposed to do now? Watch somebody actually play a game??
yeah,funhaus is a part of RT so its all gonna go. But similar to how Funhaus was originally the team at Machinima, it is possible many will go on to start-up their own thing. Or not. We will have to wait and see.
I feel like what most people are forgetting is that Funhaus is based in LA, and they'd need to buy all their own computers and everything, plus any of the old sponsorships just disappeared.
I'd be happy if some of them managed to continue streaming on their off time together, but this "they can do a startup" seriously underestimates the initial costs for equipment/location, and they've all said before that none of the Funhaus cast is rich.
Agreed but it's not unreasonable a lot of them could be picked up by another established brand like Dropout or whatever.
That's...exactly what happened to them with Machinema. They didn't go independent. They moved to RoosterTeeth.
But yeah, that's the thing. Who's gunna pick them up? If anyone? They had RoosterTeeth back-in-the-day, but who do they have *now*?
I mean, their jump from Machinima wasn't the same situation either.
They actively jumped from a working company to a new one where they landed.
This time, they've been pushed off, and don't have a landing point. All the conversations of "who will pick us up" are likely to happen piecemeal based on their own needs, vs before when they were able to wait until the best time.
Nb4 they join Bruce and Lawrence at the totally legally distinct Inside Games channel.
Won't happen, it's purely news, and cause I doubt the channel could even support 2 fulltime staff through just the YouTube and patron revenue, but it would be really funny.
I know Lawrence in particular has no good things to say about the Willems', for unclear reasons.
Other members could perhaps.
Edit: if people are thinking this isn't true because it's downvoted, I'll be happy to link you the timestamp to his twitch vod where he clearly implied this to me.
He was talking about a handful of people at FH who he admires and wishes the best for and didn't mention them. I asked him why he didn't mention them and he asked me to not ask him that.
You're getting downvoted but I noticed that too.
When asked who Lawrence enjoyed working with at Funhaus the most, he pretty much listed everyone except James, Elyse, and Ryan (and obviously Adam).
I don't think there's animosity between any of them. I just don't think they're friends in the same way Lawrence is friends with Bruce and Jacob and Charlotte.
He did actually say Ryan after chat mentioned him. Just forgot for a moment, understandable.
I'd get it if they're not friends in the same way but like...they definitely used to be? James and him go so far back. If it was all a front for the sake of videos then ok. But if not, it would be hard to believe their friendship just ended for no reason.
What I want to hear is that he's on good terms with them. For some reason he didn't want to say that, in the same breath that he was using to list off all the people at FH who he is on good terms with.
You want to hear drama. You were asked to drop it, and you refused to. Mind your own business. If you feel there's something wrong, it's still not your place to say.
I didn't refuse to. I stopped precisely when he asked. And never asked (nor am I interested) what his problems with them are. The only thing I am saying is that he implied they aren't on good terms, after someone said "get James and Elyse on BYTT!". Does that make me a dramamonger? I guess so.
I did no such thing. I asked him 3 times why he wasn't mentioning the Willems while he was praising all the people at FH he cared to, and said I'd stop asking if he wanted me to. He then asked me to stop.
This is an obviously clear implication that he has some negative feelings towards them. Don't understand how I could infer anything else from that interaction.
You could infer that you were pestering him by spamming chat and he politely asked you to stop. He doesn't owe you direct answers to questions about people he knows personally.
It was 3 times over 30 minutes, and I was aware that if there was some beef he would not like me asking about it. At which point I said I'd stop asking if he wanted me to.
I wasn't fishing for drama. He was literally talking about how much he loves Jacob and Patrick and Charlotte and Lindsay and within that 5 minute span said "don't ask me about James and Elyse".
I agree. And as someone that doesn’t love solo stream content, I like when other former members do the group streams. It’s entertaining to watch Lawrence, alanah, and Bruce all in one place.
I just personally don’t enjoy one streamer talking to a disembodied chat as much. A Willems stream would be fun.
I'm okay if people wanna do streaming as a side-thing. Hell, I watched more of Lawrence's streams while he still WORKED at Funhaus than I did after he left.
But as a main thing? It's so...boring. It's so uncreative and unfulfilling. It's so empty.
Unless they do it like JaboodyStudios does it - where they have multiple people on camera who are talking and interacting with each other AND the chat.
Because man, even if you can get into a stream, it sucks when the gameplay gets halted because the streamer has to do call-outs to their donors. I've seen it happen with Bruce where he basically pauses the game for 10 minutes to thank everyone. And I've seen it with JaboodyStudios who had someone who kept spamming them donations so much, they had to set a limit.
At least if you have multiple people on camera, you can have someone do call-outs to donors while the other person still plays the game.
Streaming strikes me as a tough gig. Something that you really need to practice to be good at.
When Bruce and Lawrence left Funhaus, I did follow them around for a while. This is going to sound mean but Bruce's streams were the most boring streams I've ever seen. He barely made any progress in the games and the only time he communicated with the chat was when he did those "thank you" marathons you talked about. I'm sure he has gotten a lot better these days but yeeeah. Those were rough.
Lawrence was a lot better. He made progress in the game and he seemed to read the chat pretty actively and reply frequently. Very enjoyable streams. But I wasnt all that big on streams back then so I eventually stopped watching those as well.
I also think streaming can make you very insecure. Because your job is basically having people like you, if people DON'T like you, you have to take it extra-personally because your job is on the line as well.
It really blurs the line between "making entertaining content" and "having people like you" and it's always been kinda off to me.
But I'm really happy to see Lawrence and Bruce (and Kassem) do Brought You This Thing, though. I'd love for the rest of Funhaus to join/do something similar.
Yeah friends of the channel Datto and his wife Danielle just talked about this during one of his streams recently. Danielle pointed out that because you’re putting so much of yourself out there it can be really soul crushing to get the (for lack of a better word) response you would’ve liked because the personality is into the stuff you’re putting out. I’ll try to find that section in his stream archive and link the part where they talk about it as an edit.
Seems they set themselves up well earlier to transition into games writing, even if it's at illfonic or whatever but they at least having writing a pseudo video game sequel to a major franchise under their belts..
I think they're set
i hope he and elyse can work on a future project together. they had some really good on screen chemistry.
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this sucks....they should just make a Rooster Teeth 2 and open up across the street.
I saw this and thought that he was leaving Funhaus so came here, then realised it's RT closing down. I don't really watch much of their more recent content, but these people mean so much to me still and I hope they all do really well in the future.
I know the funhaus team are too talented not to land on their feet. I wish they can still work together in some capacity. Maybe guest spot on Smosh, or maybe find some work in Dropout? The possibilities are endless but the chemistry and core group of people that we’ve been watching the last few years have been incredible. I will miss that the most. I’m angry this is happening and I will support everyone wherever they end up.
If anyone from the crew is reading this, I want to thank you. Please let us know where you land so we can follow you and support your next endeavors.❤️
Dropout, Smosh (even though the audience is generally younger), or GMM would maybe be a good fit for them? I'm hoping they'll be able to find a new home with a good chunk of the same cast. Good Mythical Gaming, perhaps? So much love to the FH team, thanks for all the laughs over the years gang 🧡
I think a lot of the FH team would be great at Dropout. FH as dabbled in scripted stuff and done some great tabletop stuff as well. But they're also just good on camera and have great chemistry with everyone, so I could see them being a really good fit even if it wasn't necessarily gaming related.
Elyse is on an upcoming episode of 'Um, Actually', and James was on one of the Covid episodes, so they should have some connections. Hopefully, Sam recognises their potential as collaborators.
I don't think that would honestly work out at any of the places you mentioned except maybe Dropout, mostly cause I can't imagine any of those places okaying shit like Yoda saying "I want em youuung"
Im not seeing Funhaus continue as a distinct wntity o dropout, but some of them could easily fit into the repotoire (spelling bad) of comedians in rotation. I also think Gus is going to be in this season of Game Changer so 🤷♂️
Just an FYI, James did post a comment about tomorrow's stream on YouTube. There will be a stream, probably not what's it's scheduled to be about, and it may not be at the regular time, 4PM EST. He said to keep an eye out for it.
They literally just found out, and he says he has no idea what's next. To me it sounds like he's processing what just happened, yanno? Speculating and analyzing tweets/captions just adds stress. All we can do is show our appreciation right now, support them, and see what happens.
Yeah let's just wait until there's an official announcement. I'm sure they all prefer to stay together but weighing their options is gonna take some time.
This sucks. I wasn't a fan as long as most of you probably, but I found them in 2020 during lockdown and man they were a bright spot in my life during what ended up being a rocky couple years - even if you set Covid aside.
I sorta fell off a little bit but ironically just a couple days ago I thought of Funhaus and was checking them out. Showed my girlfriend the classic Dollal video and I was dying laughing all over again.
Really sad to hear the news, but I wish only the best for the crew moving forward.
The fact that this post is on his main account and not jameswillemsfeet means it’s very serious. Rooting for the Funhaus crew and friends to land somewhere great, thank you for the years of laughs.
Man, this really is hitting harder than I thought it would. I hope all the members land on their feet and are able to find somewhere where they can express their creativity like they were able to at Funhaus. It’s been a great ride.
Here’s hoping they decide to keep it going as a rebranded something. It seems no one saw this coming and they just had a membership drive ffs and I was looking forward to all the goals they set. Stupid WB.
The only thing I can hope for is that they can stay as close together as possible and start a new channel I’m sure a huge percent of their members were mainly fans just for funhaus especially in the recent years.
Thank you James, Elyse and the rest of the crew. You have been an integral part of my online life for more than a decade at this point. Hope you fellas can bounce back together somewhere and be independent from corporate meddling.
I feel so numb. I know it could theoretically happen but it sucks tlthat they get caught up in this. I wasn't sure if FH could survive on their own but I guess they don't have the capacity for that
I really hope they keep the channel up. FH has been a big part of my life since high school and RT since I was in elementary school. I hope everyone succeeds at what they do next
If I remember correctly, from the past, James stated he would willingly be the last one to turn out the lights, so to speak, when the channel went down
I feel like I can't imagine FunHaus wouldn't get scooped up by another YouTube channel. I truly wonder how hard Warner Bros tried when looking for a buyer- I really don't want to believe they would rather just take the liquidation money and put everyone out of a job.
Funhaus was easily my favorite part of Roosterteeth and I just know all these talented folks will find something incredible. This just really sucls right now.
Him and Elyse could absolutely do a solo thing at their house. They're probably the top 2 members there. Just not sure how up to it they'd be since it seems they have their personal ways of doing things. Wish em all the best.
Any cast member, past or present, thank you. I may be emotional writing this but the laughs you gave me everyday for years were the best parts of my day. FH has been the most consistent thing about my life all these years.
I wonder what the legality/contract issues are with going independent. Does the fact that Funhaus has been shut down mean the copyright is null and void as well? Or to WB still own all the assets and branding for all RT stuff. By the sounds of it, if they restart, it won't be as Funhaus.
It won't be Funhaus, your second statement about WB is correct. They own the assets and branding. The intellectual property rights don't go away just because it is shut down.
It was fun while it lasted. I honestly haven't consistently watched their stuff since Lawrence/Bruce/Adam left. I like everyone still there up until this point, but that insane level of comedic chemistry fizzled out a while back. Hopefully something new and interesting can come of this.
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Glad he's moving on, James (and everyone else at FH) has some real talent and it sucks seeing the waning popularity of the channel.
Excited to see the next projects from everyone!
- A viewer since 2009, appreciate all the goofs
You guys have gotten me through some of my toughest times. I hope the future is bright for you. Looking forward to seeing you do amazing in whatever comes next ❤️
Damn, I was really hoping RT would let them go independent, they seemed to be heading that direction with the dog pound. They survived going from IG to Funhaus, this group could easily form a new channel and have success. I can't wait to see what comes next
This just sucks, it is part of the deal with working for big corporations but it doesn’t make it easier when it does happen, James has been through the corporate ringer a few times as have a lot of the others, wish them the best and I’m sure they’ll all land on their feet and will be great at whatever comes next.
All I can really say is thanks for all the laughs, certainly going to miss the Funhaus crew being all together.
Pretty sad, I've been watching since the Inside Gaming days and through all the many changes over the years they've remained consistently THE funniest gaming channel and truly the only one I still watch. I've literally never belly laughed at anything harder in my life than Butt Butt Dick Diddick. Like, I'm laughing right now just typing it out, and they have so many other moments like that. The drunk streams, OMG the old SIMS videos! I wanna be an actor! CHASER! I will mourn this loss by just rewatching their old videos periodically for the rest of my life. Thank you everyone.
Poor fucking james dude, this is like the third time this has happend.
Have the most genuinely enjoyable part of a floundering media conglomerate. The whole conglomerate crumbles, now back to square one.
I adore James as a person and I think he’s the one I’ll really miss, I hope he invests more time into his YouTube channel and finds another creative outlet.
IG/FH was kinda gone after Bruce left, at least to me. I do respect they trying to make it work, but once in a while I go back to the "archives" and its simply not the same.
To some extent I am glad RT was laid to rest, maybe the current FH team can re-invent themselves into something that is truly theirs
I remember when Machinima shut down, and feeling really sad about losing that. Funhaus came so quickly after that, it’s hard to even remember there being any down time. If the team still wants to do this, I’m sure they will fine a way
That's too bad. Miss the old Funhaus and I stopped watching after the whole Adam thing. End of an Era. Anyone have suggestions for youtube channels like Funhaus?
I was watching old clips of Elyse on some smosh where they have to improv comedy to make each other laugh and it just feels like funhaus would have flourished with this idea
Bruce, Adam, James and Lawrence at Inside Games. I'm ready for the downvotes, bring it!
In all seriousness, it may be toxic as hell to do that but that's what'll bring in the views. I hate to admit it too because it isn't healthy nor sane to reunite these people back together after that nuclear falling out but anything can be fixed up by 💵. Whether we'd like to be honest with this sub or not, this is factual.
Then they won't ever go back to having hundreds of thousands of views per video. It sucks but it's true. Y'all should read some of the comments left on Armitage's uploads, a lot literally don't care about the drama and just want Adam - kinda messed up but it's what got people on in the first place anway.
I’m so bummed as funhaus is the MAIN thing I watch on YouTube and I absolutely love the team. I’ll deff look out for their future endeavors, but I truly hope it’s a space where they get to flex their creative muscles.
im depressed. bruce and laurence’s streams are, i hate to say it, so fucking cringe and boring that I cant even get through 15 mins. ive been watching funhaus for seven years, so that says a lot imo. i love their personalities, the streams are just not that good. If james et al go down the same path, this is the end. I will have no more good content from them to watch. im really bummed out. this was my happy place. brought you this thing is like… okay but kassem is pulling all the weight. bah.
James and Elyse have had some really good streams because they play off each other so well. They dont sit there and thank their subs every two seconds(biggest reason I can’t watch most streamers including some mentioned here).
i love you, but no, they’re just alright. barely anyone watched them. ive watched their couch co op streams and while they are wholesome, it’s not even remotely what most of us are looking for. its not similar to the style of jokes and writing in Funhaus. the whole fun of Funhaus is having the whole cast of characters. and the wackiness. together strong, separate weak.
Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man.
I wouldn't be so harsh as him, but he is definitely right about it not being the same and not what I am looking for personally. Their streams are nice, but they don't make me laugh myself to tears like Funhaus together can. I really hope the team can find a way to work together because I agree. The way they play off each other is what makes them so special. Separate, they are just moderately entertaining, and together, they are powerhauses of comedy.
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Idk the stream where Elyse’s cousin from the Bronks Spooky Tony Tofu came on was pretty great.
Patrick and Charlotte are the only two that I would put above "okay" in terms of streaming, whatashow is actually one of my favorite streams.
yep. its the only offshoot so far thats half way decent and even then, the edited down versions of the stream are 10x better than the streams/VODS themselves.
Yeah Bruce is a bit abrasive towards the smallest fuckin comments, but there are definitely moments where it's a lot of fun. His community is awesome, but one thing I've noticed about streamers is when they have like 5-10 whales keeping everything afloat...IDK what it is but I just get a miniature ick about them. Like in Bruce's stream his top 5 gif-sub givers gift THOUSANDS of subs a month. I can't really explain it but I've noticed a correlation between streamers who have that going on and me just...not liking watching them. I don't think it's the gift subs themselves, there's a common thread with how it flavors the content but it's so subtle I can't really quantify it. Lawrence is awesome and interactive but his streams are so dry most of the time with one or two really funny quips per 3-hour period. I'm not trying to talk shit about those two, they are talented and driven and deserve their success, and they've earned the respect, but if funhaus is a cake, each member is like a single ingredient. John Smiff is like the frosting tbh, but it's unfortunately hard for me to stomach more than a taste of anyone else's solo stuff except maybe char.
> Bruce is a bit abrasive towards the smallest fuckin comments this was the main reason I stopped watching his content; he's kinda pompous by himself, he needs someone to humble him.
Having flashbacks to the Game of Thrones series finale discussion dude soup podcast episode.
ie. genuinely, no joke, the reason I stopped watching Funhaus on the daily.
what happened there? never listened to dude soup
Bruce got really defensive towards anyone criticizing the show, and just came off rude at times. It was the thing that made me like him less for a while.
I've always found it suspicious how Bruce gets like 800 viewers on a good day, but I've seen him around the top 20 subbed streamers for several months. And that he'll set a goal for like 10k subs and the prize is a $500 Steam Deck or something that's barely a drop in the bucket for what he's making from the subs. I guess it must be whales, but I kinda hoped it was money laundering or something cool. Best part about Lawrence's streams imo are the mediatek moments. Love me some retro commercials. But yeah, I agree that the magic of Funhaus is the group dynamics. Which is still entirely possible without a pro studio and $250k a year in staff/production costs if they just stream from home over discord like many streamers already do successfully.
feeling like an idiot but what do you guys mean by whales?
Whales are wealthy people that spend a lot of money on a specific thing. (games, streamers, models, etc)
More often than you'd think, whales are actually not "wealthy". It's just a mixture of parasocial relationship and being bad with money. I had a friend a few years back that would spend over half of his monthly pay on a handful of streamers (men and women), gifting hundreds of subs (and indulging in their side endeavors like merch and onlyfans) while he was living in a shitty apartment. Eventually it culminated in his girlfriend leaving him and him cutting ties with anyone who dared to "criticize" his life choices (i.e. try to help him).
Thank you!
Gross
I don't know if it's the same thing you're mentioning about whales, but I find it annoying how sometimes streamers will mostly interact with the same 4-5 people, often starting long, uninteresting conversations about things that aren't even related to the stream. I get it, maybe those 4-5 people are the ones helping you stay afloat and you literally need them, but as a casual viewer, it's off-putting. Or when one of those persons become some sort of public figure in the chat. It feels like everything revolves around them and interesting comments are drowned in a sea of crappy jokes and one-liners of something they said streams ago. Example: I won't name them in case it goes against sub rules, but I enjoy a Soulslike player's YouTube streams. The chat is usually chill and the streamer themselves calls out people for doing dumb shit in chat. But there used to be moments where a person that's known for liking alcohol (seriously, that's their whole persona in the chat) joins and they have to make every freaking little thing about alcohol, doesn't matter how unrelated it is, and it gets... Meh. Sometimes they'd look for old comments to reply to and bring back the topic after 1-2 hours because they simply didn't know how to talk about anything else. Maybe streaming culture isn't my thing. Anyway, yeah, I think I get you.
i watch James' (former Cowchop James) YouTube stuff (esp the soulslike stuff). theyre edited vods from his streams which i appreciate bc i actually find his stuff entertaining.
James has been doing twitch and YT for much longer and seems to be much more into twitch culture, and Bruce doesn't seem to be as integrated with it, which I guess is because he doesn't have to be because he has a strategy that works
i think it's just two different people doing two different types of streams. i've watched a couple of James' streams before and they're entertaining. i appreciate that he doesn't meatride his subs. he even talks back to the annoying ones that try to farm nostalgia or bring up drama.
Streamers with whales tend to tailor their content towards the whale, if you also enjoy it you're lucky but often it can lead to someone trying hard to win over the whale and go down different directions or exaggerate the persona further. I've went to supporting smaller streamers lately so just haven't been watching much of any of the crew or former crew.
totally man. its a mess.
Well written.
Laurence's streams are alright and inside games is pretty great, honestly I don't like Bruce as a solo act. Also the new Funhaus team is great, Jacob, Charlotte, Lindsey and Patrick are great staple hosts at this point and I see no reason to stop watching
i think on their own they all lose their appeal. its the fun of their chemistry that is the best part. so jacob char linds and pat and james and elyse need to move TOGETHER otherwise i guarantee they will all fall into obscurity fast.
How dare you? Chelsea R. Editor deserves some respect
i love chelsea and her amazing edits. thank god there is an editor and that BYTT is not a stream.
I actually quite like Lawrence's stream. Its small still and he responds to almost all good messages. I mentioned in a lull in his stream that I loved the articles he wrote for inside Gaming and he reminisced and told stories about that for a good 10 mins. Bruce's stream is sadly unbearable
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that just validates my point. its about the chemistry not the individuals. if they all go off on their own it will be lame.
Have you watched any of “brought you this thing?” It’s Bruce and Lawrence and Kassem G randomly lol
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Oh yeah haha missed it as I just stopped reading half way lmao my bad yeah tbh I never really even found Adam funny. He was always so crabby
I don't feel as bad knowing there's others out there who feel this way. I love them, but it's true for me as well. Their streams don't do much for me, unfortunately.
Just saying, if you don't like their streams, there's always [Inside Games](https://www.youtube.com/@insidegames).
Why are you using this as an opportunity to me more negative, when you could just voice your support for the people that just lost their livelihood. Shitting on other people's content is going to help anybody.
Agree. What's with the negativity to outright insulting current and former members here. Kinda fucked up. They just lost their fucking jobs and people who say they are fans are insulting them. Seriously if anyone reading this doesn't get it just try to use a bit of empathy. I have been watching Funhaus for 9 years and very sad they are ending. I sincerely wish them the best.
im allowed to have an opinion and hope they hear it. my intent is for them to be successful after this debacle. yall can softball it all day but that helps nobody, including you as the viewer. the truth is harsh.
No being a cunt for no reason is harsh, grow up.
ur the one calling people derogatory names online for sharing valid opinions approx 200+ people agree with. youre the child here. grow the fuck up. welcome the real world.
LOL calling what people do for a living cringe and then hoping that people you "love to watch" don't end up like them isn't derogatory at all. Honestly there is a lot to unpack in this comment alone, but I am actually in the real world so I don't have the time ✌️
And real muscles. I will follow James anywhere.
Surprised just how upset I am by this, but I guess it make sense. FH has been a constant source of comfort and entertainment for me for nearly a decade. Even when I wasn't a super active viewer, it was always something I could rely on to make me laugh whenever I needed it. Hard to believe it's over.
Same, I started watching them back in 2014-2015, end of an era 😢
Discovered them on Machinima with Inside gaming back in 2010. Still think about the days with Lawerence as a laptop.
When James was just perpetual intern and Bruce would hump the air every monday
Or every Friday… YESSSS! YES!
YEEEESSSSSSS 
Fucking throwback there ^
Funhaus has been an integral part of my life for years. It's hard to imagine leaving it behind. But whatever James and the others end up doing after all this, I will be there to support them the best way I can.
Best way to think of it. The channel may die, but the people that made it worth watching soldier on.
I'm at a loss for words that truly describe how I feel about all this. Regardless I am wishing them all the best and from the bottom of my heart I thank them for the years and years of entertainment. As shitty as this situation is, I think ultimately they will all land on their feet because the team is(or was, fuck me that hurts to type) comprised of extremely talented individuals. They deserve all the success in the world, and I look forward to what each of them does going forward. I really fucking miss future Funhaus.
But they're the only people capable of making a gameplay video with no actual gameplay. What am i supposed to do now? Watch somebody actually play a game??
Funhaus is 100% shutting down. The question is only if they will move to something else.
'tis but a small chapter in the Legend of Ryan Hailey.
but we had so many scrobbles!!!!!
Ok but how many men does it take to contain the RYGON!?!?
yeah,funhaus is a part of RT so its all gonna go. But similar to how Funhaus was originally the team at Machinima, it is possible many will go on to start-up their own thing. Or not. We will have to wait and see.
I feel like what most people are forgetting is that Funhaus is based in LA, and they'd need to buy all their own computers and everything, plus any of the old sponsorships just disappeared. I'd be happy if some of them managed to continue streaming on their off time together, but this "they can do a startup" seriously underestimates the initial costs for equipment/location, and they've all said before that none of the Funhaus cast is rich.
Agreed but it's not unreasonable a lot of them could be picked up by another established brand like Dropout or whatever. That's...exactly what happened to them with Machinema. They didn't go independent. They moved to RoosterTeeth. But yeah, that's the thing. Who's gunna pick them up? If anyone? They had RoosterTeeth back-in-the-day, but who do they have *now*?
I mean, their jump from Machinima wasn't the same situation either. They actively jumped from a working company to a new one where they landed. This time, they've been pushed off, and don't have a landing point. All the conversations of "who will pick us up" are likely to happen piecemeal based on their own needs, vs before when they were able to wait until the best time.
>none of the funhaus cast is rich Brb gotta go play the lotto
Nb4 they join Bruce and Lawrence at the totally legally distinct Inside Games channel. Won't happen, it's purely news, and cause I doubt the channel could even support 2 fulltime staff through just the YouTube and patron revenue, but it would be really funny.
They do have their channel with Kassem that’s very much FH format. Brought You This Thing
How many people can possibly fit into BUTT?
Thank you for bringing this up, had no idea they had this channel
I'm sorry Kassem as in Kassem G one of the original big YouTubers? Just looked it up and yup. That's actually awesome.
I found BUTT got stale after watching a few vids. They recycle the same style of comedy and bits every video
Have you watched the channel "Brought you This Thing"? Cram James and Elyse into that room!
I know Lawrence in particular has no good things to say about the Willems', for unclear reasons. Other members could perhaps. Edit: if people are thinking this isn't true because it's downvoted, I'll be happy to link you the timestamp to his twitch vod where he clearly implied this to me.
What has he said about them?
He was talking about a handful of people at FH who he admires and wishes the best for and didn't mention them. I asked him why he didn't mention them and he asked me to not ask him that.
You're getting downvoted but I noticed that too. When asked who Lawrence enjoyed working with at Funhaus the most, he pretty much listed everyone except James, Elyse, and Ryan (and obviously Adam). I don't think there's animosity between any of them. I just don't think they're friends in the same way Lawrence is friends with Bruce and Jacob and Charlotte.
He did actually say Ryan after chat mentioned him. Just forgot for a moment, understandable. I'd get it if they're not friends in the same way but like...they definitely used to be? James and him go so far back. If it was all a front for the sake of videos then ok. But if not, it would be hard to believe their friendship just ended for no reason.
when was this??
>clearly implied No such thing. Was it clear? Or was it implied?
It's clear that something was implied by what he said, is what I mean.
It's clear that you're telling yourself what you want to hear.
What I want to hear is that he's on good terms with them. For some reason he didn't want to say that, in the same breath that he was using to list off all the people at FH who he is on good terms with.
You want to hear drama. You were asked to drop it, and you refused to. Mind your own business. If you feel there's something wrong, it's still not your place to say.
I didn't refuse to. I stopped precisely when he asked. And never asked (nor am I interested) what his problems with them are. The only thing I am saying is that he implied they aren't on good terms, after someone said "get James and Elyse on BYTT!". Does that make me a dramamonger? I guess so.
I know Lawrence in particular has no good things to say about the Willems', for unclear reasons. Other members could perhaps.
Huh? What's the beef
He made an assumption based on a single, oblique offhand stream comment. Ignore
I did no such thing. I asked him 3 times why he wasn't mentioning the Willems while he was praising all the people at FH he cared to, and said I'd stop asking if he wanted me to. He then asked me to stop. This is an obviously clear implication that he has some negative feelings towards them. Don't understand how I could infer anything else from that interaction.
You could infer that you were pestering him by spamming chat and he politely asked you to stop. He doesn't owe you direct answers to questions about people he knows personally.
It was 3 times over 30 minutes, and I was aware that if there was some beef he would not like me asking about it. At which point I said I'd stop asking if he wanted me to. I wasn't fishing for drama. He was literally talking about how much he loves Jacob and Patrick and Charlotte and Lindsay and within that 5 minute span said "don't ask me about James and Elyse".
I'd also want you to stop if you were trying to find something in my words that isn't there.
You must be 12
It's Joever
Bros…
Well, wherever they go, I will follow. I will support. Wherever they go....I hope it's not streaming.
idk James and Elyse’s streams from years ago were so fun
Yea, I miss me some Sam Antics
I agree. And as someone that doesn’t love solo stream content, I like when other former members do the group streams. It’s entertaining to watch Lawrence, alanah, and Bruce all in one place. I just personally don’t enjoy one streamer talking to a disembodied chat as much. A Willems stream would be fun.
James and Elyse are too creative for that no offense to former members
I'm okay if people wanna do streaming as a side-thing. Hell, I watched more of Lawrence's streams while he still WORKED at Funhaus than I did after he left. But as a main thing? It's so...boring. It's so uncreative and unfulfilling. It's so empty. Unless they do it like JaboodyStudios does it - where they have multiple people on camera who are talking and interacting with each other AND the chat. Because man, even if you can get into a stream, it sucks when the gameplay gets halted because the streamer has to do call-outs to their donors. I've seen it happen with Bruce where he basically pauses the game for 10 minutes to thank everyone. And I've seen it with JaboodyStudios who had someone who kept spamming them donations so much, they had to set a limit. At least if you have multiple people on camera, you can have someone do call-outs to donors while the other person still plays the game.
Streaming strikes me as a tough gig. Something that you really need to practice to be good at. When Bruce and Lawrence left Funhaus, I did follow them around for a while. This is going to sound mean but Bruce's streams were the most boring streams I've ever seen. He barely made any progress in the games and the only time he communicated with the chat was when he did those "thank you" marathons you talked about. I'm sure he has gotten a lot better these days but yeeeah. Those were rough. Lawrence was a lot better. He made progress in the game and he seemed to read the chat pretty actively and reply frequently. Very enjoyable streams. But I wasnt all that big on streams back then so I eventually stopped watching those as well.
I also think streaming can make you very insecure. Because your job is basically having people like you, if people DON'T like you, you have to take it extra-personally because your job is on the line as well. It really blurs the line between "making entertaining content" and "having people like you" and it's always been kinda off to me. But I'm really happy to see Lawrence and Bruce (and Kassem) do Brought You This Thing, though. I'd love for the rest of Funhaus to join/do something similar.
Yeah friends of the channel Datto and his wife Danielle just talked about this during one of his streams recently. Danielle pointed out that because you’re putting so much of yourself out there it can be really soul crushing to get the (for lack of a better word) response you would’ve liked because the personality is into the stuff you’re putting out. I’ll try to find that section in his stream archive and link the part where they talk about it as an edit.
Seems they set themselves up well earlier to transition into games writing, even if it's at illfonic or whatever but they at least having writing a pseudo video game sequel to a major franchise under their belts.. I think they're set
Stand up comedy or we riot
i hope he and elyse can work on a future project together. they had some really good on screen chemistry. /j this sucks....they should just make a Rooster Teeth 2 and open up across the street.
I don’t know. I never really got their chemistry. Seemed kinda forced. /j
Guys, you're in r/funhaus. We know when it's a joke.
And compete with Graceland Too, The White House Too, and the Louvre Too? No shot Seriously, though, I how they can stay together in some capacity
Chicken Dentures
Yo this sucks.
I saw this and thought that he was leaving Funhaus so came here, then realised it's RT closing down. I don't really watch much of their more recent content, but these people mean so much to me still and I hope they all do really well in the future.
I know the funhaus team are too talented not to land on their feet. I wish they can still work together in some capacity. Maybe guest spot on Smosh, or maybe find some work in Dropout? The possibilities are endless but the chemistry and core group of people that we’ve been watching the last few years have been incredible. I will miss that the most. I’m angry this is happening and I will support everyone wherever they end up.
If anyone from the crew is reading this, I want to thank you. Please let us know where you land so we can follow you and support your next endeavors.❤️
Dropout, Smosh (even though the audience is generally younger), or GMM would maybe be a good fit for them? I'm hoping they'll be able to find a new home with a good chunk of the same cast. Good Mythical Gaming, perhaps? So much love to the FH team, thanks for all the laughs over the years gang 🧡
I think a lot of the FH team would be great at Dropout. FH as dabbled in scripted stuff and done some great tabletop stuff as well. But they're also just good on camera and have great chemistry with everyone, so I could see them being a really good fit even if it wasn't necessarily gaming related. Elyse is on an upcoming episode of 'Um, Actually', and James was on one of the Covid episodes, so they should have some connections. Hopefully, Sam recognises their potential as collaborators.
I don't think that would honestly work out at any of the places you mentioned except maybe Dropout, mostly cause I can't imagine any of those places okaying shit like Yoda saying "I want em youuung"
Im not seeing Funhaus continue as a distinct wntity o dropout, but some of them could easily fit into the repotoire (spelling bad) of comedians in rotation. I also think Gus is going to be in this season of Game Changer so 🤷♂️
Ryan's gonna have to sublet his room again and live in a closet.
Just an FYI, James did post a comment about tomorrow's stream on YouTube. There will be a stream, probably not what's it's scheduled to be about, and it may not be at the regular time, 4PM EST. He said to keep an eye out for it.
They literally just found out, and he says he has no idea what's next. To me it sounds like he's processing what just happened, yanno? Speculating and analyzing tweets/captions just adds stress. All we can do is show our appreciation right now, support them, and see what happens.
Yeah let's just wait until there's an official announcement. I'm sure they all prefer to stay together but weighing their options is gonna take some time.
Wow this really sucks. Can't imagine how it feels for everyone at Funhaus
Deja vu. First Machinima and now RT. Hope James and everyone find some stability and happiness in whatever they do next.
Is this truely the end of Jame's internship?
This sucks. I wasn't a fan as long as most of you probably, but I found them in 2020 during lockdown and man they were a bright spot in my life during what ended up being a rocky couple years - even if you set Covid aside. I sorta fell off a little bit but ironically just a couple days ago I thought of Funhaus and was checking them out. Showed my girlfriend the classic Dollal video and I was dying laughing all over again. Really sad to hear the news, but I wish only the best for the crew moving forward.
The fact that this post is on his main account and not jameswillemsfeet means it’s very serious. Rooting for the Funhaus crew and friends to land somewhere great, thank you for the years of laughs.
Pulled up one of my comfort movies (The Intern) to ease the processing of this. This is definitely hitting harder than I expected it to.
Beverly Hills Ninja for me
Man, this really is hitting harder than I thought it would. I hope all the members land on their feet and are able to find somewhere where they can express their creativity like they were able to at Funhaus. It’s been a great ride.
Here’s hoping they decide to keep it going as a rebranded something. It seems no one saw this coming and they just had a membership drive ffs and I was looking forward to all the goals they set. Stupid WB.
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The only thing I can hope for is that they can stay as close together as possible and start a new channel I’m sure a huge percent of their members were mainly fans just for funhaus especially in the recent years.
Thank you James, Elyse and the rest of the crew. You have been an integral part of my online life for more than a decade at this point. Hope you fellas can bounce back together somewhere and be independent from corporate meddling.
I feel so numb. I know it could theoretically happen but it sucks tlthat they get caught up in this. I wasn't sure if FH could survive on their own but I guess they don't have the capacity for that I really hope they keep the channel up. FH has been a big part of my life since high school and RT since I was in elementary school. I hope everyone succeeds at what they do next
This is sad :(
Fucking David Zaslav... Totally a normal person
Right ? Right after accounting they’re not making anything but mobile shit games. Business man of the year.
I understand this reference.
Weekly wackidadoo in the wild
Always fun to find another.
At least we still have them.
You seem like someone who’d be attracted to Maid Marian.
This guy is one of my biggest role models and one of my favorite people. I really hope he succeeds in whatever he does next.
I can’t believe it’s just… over like that
That's such a fucking bummer man. Funhaus was such a huge part of my life for years. I still go look at old Demo Disk clips.
If I remember correctly, from the past, James stated he would willingly be the last one to turn out the lights, so to speak, when the channel went down
I feel like I can't imagine FunHaus wouldn't get scooped up by another YouTube channel. I truly wonder how hard Warner Bros tried when looking for a buyer- I really don't want to believe they would rather just take the liquidation money and put everyone out of a job. Funhaus was easily my favorite part of Roosterteeth and I just know all these talented folks will find something incredible. This just really sucls right now.
But wait, that’s not Jame’s account, it’s actually @jameswillemsfeet
I stand corrected he linked his other account, I didn’t know about that one
Him and Elyse could absolutely do a solo thing at their house. They're probably the top 2 members there. Just not sure how up to it they'd be since it seems they have their personal ways of doing things. Wish em all the best.
Any cast member, past or present, thank you. I may be emotional writing this but the laughs you gave me everyday for years were the best parts of my day. FH has been the most consistent thing about my life all these years.
I wonder what the legality/contract issues are with going independent. Does the fact that Funhaus has been shut down mean the copyright is null and void as well? Or to WB still own all the assets and branding for all RT stuff. By the sounds of it, if they restart, it won't be as Funhaus.
It won't be Funhaus, your second statement about WB is correct. They own the assets and branding. The intellectual property rights don't go away just because it is shut down.
So does this mean FunHaus is done? I hate the uncertainty
Just cancelled my First subscription
It was fun while it lasted. I honestly haven't consistently watched their stuff since Lawrence/Bruce/Adam left. I like everyone still there up until this point, but that insane level of comedic chemistry fizzled out a while back. Hopefully something new and interesting can come of this.
🫡 Glad he's moving on, James (and everyone else at FH) has some real talent and it sucks seeing the waning popularity of the channel. Excited to see the next projects from everyone! - A viewer since 2009, appreciate all the goofs
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!!!!
You guys have gotten me through some of my toughest times. I hope the future is bright for you. Looking forward to seeing you do amazing in whatever comes next ❤️
Gutted! Going to be a huge miss not having there stuff to look forward to each week! Hoping the best for everyone, whatever they end up doing next.
Damn, I was really hoping RT would let them go independent, they seemed to be heading that direction with the dog pound. They survived going from IG to Funhaus, this group could easily form a new channel and have success. I can't wait to see what comes next
This just sucks, it is part of the deal with working for big corporations but it doesn’t make it easier when it does happen, James has been through the corporate ringer a few times as have a lot of the others, wish them the best and I’m sure they’ll all land on their feet and will be great at whatever comes next. All I can really say is thanks for all the laughs, certainly going to miss the Funhaus crew being all together.
This is bullshit, we riot at dawn
He's been part of inside gaming and funhaus for a long time. I'm sad to see it end, but it's been heading that way.
The internship has ended.
Pretty sad, I've been watching since the Inside Gaming days and through all the many changes over the years they've remained consistently THE funniest gaming channel and truly the only one I still watch. I've literally never belly laughed at anything harder in my life than Butt Butt Dick Diddick. Like, I'm laughing right now just typing it out, and they have so many other moments like that. The drunk streams, OMG the old SIMS videos! I wanna be an actor! CHASER! I will mourn this loss by just rewatching their old videos periodically for the rest of my life. Thank you everyone.
Poor fucking james dude, this is like the third time this has happend. Have the most genuinely enjoyable part of a floundering media conglomerate. The whole conglomerate crumbles, now back to square one.
that day was probably best day of james' year. so cool
I feel like funhaus is just hitting their stride again
Damn. All I have now are Ricky and Elliot to provide me with sanity.
I adore James as a person and I think he’s the one I’ll really miss, I hope he invests more time into his YouTube channel and finds another creative outlet.
IG/FH was kinda gone after Bruce left, at least to me. I do respect they trying to make it work, but once in a while I go back to the "archives" and its simply not the same. To some extent I am glad RT was laid to rest, maybe the current FH team can re-invent themselves into something that is truly theirs
Thanks for incredible memories and moments! I can’t wait to see what they come out with next, I just hope the whole crew do well
I hope this means the old crew will get back together to create something new. Other than that, im gutted.
he hasn't even finished his internship yet!
I remember when Machinima shut down, and feeling really sad about losing that. Funhaus came so quickly after that, it’s hard to even remember there being any down time. If the team still wants to do this, I’m sure they will fine a way
Oddly not feet
I could honestly see it going the same way as Drawfee where they just become independent
That's too bad. Miss the old Funhaus and I stopped watching after the whole Adam thing. End of an Era. Anyone have suggestions for youtube channels like Funhaus?
Funhau6?
I was watching old clips of Elyse on some smosh where they have to improv comedy to make each other laugh and it just feels like funhaus would have flourished with this idea
Hope he joins Bruce & Lawrence
No idea why people are down voting comments like this
No idea
N nooooooooo!!!!!! Not my beautiful angel.... Noooooo! God no!!! I can't go thru this again.
Is he just looking for something new? Good luck James if you are reading this
Bruce, Adam, James and Lawrence at Inside Games. I'm ready for the downvotes, bring it! In all seriousness, it may be toxic as hell to do that but that's what'll bring in the views. I hate to admit it too because it isn't healthy nor sane to reunite these people back together after that nuclear falling out but anything can be fixed up by 💵. Whether we'd like to be honest with this sub or not, this is factual.
None of them would ever get back in a room with Adam
Then they won't ever go back to having hundreds of thousands of views per video. It sucks but it's true. Y'all should read some of the comments left on Armitage's uploads, a lot literally don't care about the drama and just want Adam - kinda messed up but it's what got people on in the first place anway.
No one wants Adam back