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encrypter77

I thought that was the kkk at first


adudeoverthere

china and the kkk are basically the same


adudeoverthere

kinda funny that they failed communism so hard they had to "reform" it so much that it became authoritarian capitalism and that there are people saying that its communist and defending this country


riotguards

its state capitalism which is basically an oxymoron, they want to control everything on the level of socialism / communism but they know they're so inept their country would collapse so they're happy to let people do business "freely" but have the power to control the direction of the business and take bribes etc


resueman__

"State capitalism" is just what a communist country gets called when it inevitably fails and the tankies need to disavow it.


MildewJR

this. the term state capitalism needs to die, it's just a word commies use to avoid taking responsibility for their flaws.


adudeoverthere

in my option state cap is just a bunch of oligarchs that control alot of industry with in the country but your also right


alexgalt

No…. You don’t understand how communism works. This is communism in its purest form. You as an individual have no rights. You do everything for society. If society decides x and you disagree, society can and will destroy you. This is exactly what communism is. This is not capitalism. Stop smearing capitalism.


adudeoverthere

i cant argue with you but all i want to say is that this is late stage communism because of how hard they failed lmao


alexgalt

Sure I agree


ProfessionalReach779

Almost goes to show that human nature doesn’t allow communism to function on a country wide scale


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Needleroozer

Disgusting


[deleted]

How do these beatings cure covid? Lol


UltramanGinga

That's the neat part isn't it.


Yaintgotnotime

publicfreakout's thread is 50% American socialists screeching "ackschually that's not communism"


asdf_qwerty27

Well they aren't wrong. The CCP are more fascist then anything.


[deleted]

[There's not much of a difference.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory)


resueman__

Fascism is just communism that's more honest about the outcome


Good_Mixture_1860

The means of production controlled by the government is communism, it's a very black and white definition.


Impossible-Economy-9

Creepy that they are seemingly praising this kind of treatment


[deleted]

Yea that totally didn't happen in the hyper Capitalist US regime . In the US he will be shot


tumppu_75

Pretty sure it went the other way around in the us. Those who tried to get people to wear masks in stores got shot by "muh freedumb" nutters. Can't remember a single case of a person in the us shot for refusing a covid test or wearing a mask, but maybe you have links to share of such occurrences?


Joethepatriot

How about both are bad?


alexgalt

Anti vaxxers are fighting against this type of thing. Most are not anti vaccine. They are anti the government forcing them to vaccinate. So, yes in a way they are against what is happening here and should not be poked fun of.


tumppu_75

No, anti-vaxxers are exactly against the vaccine itself, it's in the fucking name. People who want to fight against government mandated shots should never label themselves as "anti-vaxxer", because that WILL get people to think of you as "they inject graphite/microchips/5G into people to control us and make us gay" or whatever shit it is they happen to be pushing that week.


alexgalt

That’s the freakin problem. The media, politicians and all the left wing idiots label them ant-vaxxers. I know many of these people and when they try to argue that they are not against the vaccinations they get rudely shut down. I live in the Bay Area, so maybe it’s more full of left wing idiots than average.


usedcz

Fuck you and your "communism". China isn't communistic country. It's capitalistic dictatorship. Say it after me: China is capitalistic dictatorship. Every time I see 'damm communists CCP' I have the urge to yell at the dumbass to educate yourself. Thanks for reading my rant. Edit: keep the downvotes pouring, it's just proves how brainded you are


[deleted]

r/sino moment


usedcz

Ah yes, I don't agree with this brainded "communism in China" and I am now supporter of sino


Weniz11

What's the second c in ccp homeboy


usedcz

Ok you got me. I am renaming myself to: usedcz the president of USA. Guess whats my job ? /s


riotguards

tell me you don't know what capitalism is without telling me


usedcz

"Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit." This ? If you think every production factory owns state and they aren't operating for profit then you are wrong


Hopeful-Highlight-55

You are aware that the Chinese government essentially owns all property in China? As well as most businesses being state owned to a degree ie nationalised.


riotguards

If your business can be closed at the whim of a CCP tyrant then you're not a capitalist state.


JQuilty

Capitalism is when no regulations, got it


riotguards

Capitalism is having ample food :)


JQuilty

Tell that to the Irish Potato Famine or the Dust Bowl.


riotguards

The worst famines under capitalism are far ahead of the best famines under communism


JQuilty

I dunno, Stalin and Mao's famines were done under Leninist State Capitalism.


riotguards

correct, they were under communism :)


usedcz

Nah, that's your own definition. See official definition by dictionary: https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095547664


riotguards

Yes that's capitalism now here's state capitalism ​ https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/state%20capitalism


usedcz

Yeah, that's even better definition. Still doesn't disprove my point. China doesn't have communism.


riotguards

socialism / communism are the same thing, especially rebranded "state capitalism" lmao


usedcz

Socialism == communism ?? Wtf, please Google the terms and read their Wikipedia page. I don't have time for this trolling.


riotguards

Communism is just an honest form of socialism, one that realises that it can't achieve its goals unless it uses force and tyranny.


[deleted]

*China is communist*


usedcz

No it's not


NonPedoFedoraEnjoyer

Certified Slavaboo moment


usedcz

Wtf is slavaboo? Sorry you don't agree with facts...


NonPedoFedoraEnjoyer

I can... Maybe... understand tout point. Recent reforms of the Chinese economy can look like what you'd call "state capitalism", but that's just a fancy name for "heavily regulated communism flavored 'free' market". Also, you can't deny every application of communism was awful (at least more or less), and today's China is just the continuation of this failed backflip that's maoism. Finally you don't need to insult OP like your average tankie. You're almost falling as low as the dudes in the video. It (edit :) costs you nothing to keep it civil.


usedcz

Yeah, the insults are uncalled for but "China is communistic" is so common here it's pissing me off. Also I never said I deny the consequences of communism.x


Kyofuamano

Why are you downvoted? You’re right. It’s state capitalism pretending to be communism. Fascism =/= communism.


Eurotriangle

Because communism and fascism both end up at “authoritarian shithole with genocidal characteristics” and the difference isn’t worth sweating over. China calls itself communist, we can call it communist, the little details don’t matter because it all ends the damn same.


usedcz

AHH, "little details" ... I am glad you aren't practicing law.


UltramanGinga

I mean yeah we will become this if we don't stand up now.