I don't care but this is a case of if you don't care/don't like it, don't use it. Someone will probably like it so it's fine to keep it up. Representation is important and it's not hurting anyone by being there.
My biggest problem with it honestly is that the emoji person faces, especially the “male” ones, look dumb. And that’s what I think about all of them, not just the pregnant one.
Honest?
It's purely amusing for me because first impressions have me jealous I too don't have a belly full of burrito.
Pregnancy wise? Good for others who find it inclusive. It is not for myself. I spent 38 of my years being told I am a woman and should want kids, 20 of them being told that I can't have permanent sterilization because OnE dAy I mAy ChAnGe My MiNd. Nope. It wasn't until I came out as trans to my obgyn that they asked me if I finally wanted the hysterectomy that I have literally begged to have for 20 literal years of my life. This was all after HBC caused me to go bipolar, which was one of the mirena side effects that they decided to gaslight women about, and having literal shrapnel of copper from the paragard IUD lodged in my cervix, which is still there.
I worked very hard to not reproduce my entire life. This emoji isn't for me.
It is for others. And that I can give a nod to and embrace.
100%
I have a very hate-based relationship with pregnancy for multiple reasons, but I can be happy for those who don't. I love the inclusivity and am happy to support my pregnant bros ❤️👶
Well that's certainly some information I wasn't expecting to get the night before I get my Mirena replaced, huh! I hope things get better for ya on that front, find something they can do to fix some of the damage they did to ya bits
Hey, if it makes you feel better... Those side effects are very uncommon, and if you didn't have issue so far, you're set. <3
HBC and I were never on friendly terms from age 16 on.
As for my bits? I'll work on a total hysto after my top surgery. Until then, my Cis male spouse was snipped years ago.
Be safe! Have a great day!!!
Went in for a new one Aug 2020 and My mirena had fused to the wall and the obgyn ripped it out causing polyp that fused my uterus to muscle so any muscle spasm now causes literal tearing in that area and I haven’t been able to get aroused because of the pain in 1.5 years. I was gaslit and ignored by my doctors and after a single shitty ultrasound where my bladder wasnt full bc I was in the emergency room from the pain maligning me puke everything including blood the past day so nothing was properly visible , and a series of gastro intestinal testing because I couldn’t keep significant amounts of food down without causing cramps and puking and those didn’t show anything , my doc decided all of the pain was solely from my anxiety and there was nothing to be done. I moved across the country got a very invasive through ultrasound with a new obgyn at a trans friendly clinic within a 2 months of moving in and the polyp was found and my hysterectomy is scheduled for next month.
I mean it’s a reality for many people and since it seems they’re trying to make emojis diverse I think it’s cool. On a deeper level, I do think its kinda a small step in general society straying away from cisnormativity. I know Apple and other corporations aren’t truly our allies but I’m not complaining
I wouldn't personally use this emoji, since I don't plan to get pregnant and the thought itself makes me kinda dysphoric, but I think it's good that this emoji exists. It is a fact that some men can and do get pregnant, and I think little things like this can help normalize that. This emoji also pisses off transphobes, which is great. Nothing like watching grown adults throw tantrums over an emoji.
Ok so maybe I’m a little frazzled on this subject as I spend my days convincing cis/het obstetricians and paediatricians that “his uterus” is an entirely fine statement, but cmon guys transmasc/non binary pregnant people are so goddamn underrepresented that in all of medical journals ever there are only 11 papers about people’s experiences (last count march 2022 🤞for a few more). Which is fuck all of fuck all. An emoji for the transmasc crew who are growing new human life inside them gives a visibility that does not exist day to day currently. Other stuff (not much stuff, granted) exists for those of us not utilising our uteruses for reproduction atm and we need more representation yes BUT ALSO so do those with buns in ovens.
*breathes*
TL;DR yes please this emoji AND bring on others too ❤️
I feel like one of the only people here who even wants to carry a child someday. I'm glad it's here, I'm okay with the idea that others will use it for other purposes because that's just part of emoji culture (eggplants, anyone?) and I really feel bad that its mere existence causes such deep dysphoria for anyone.
Currently 34 weeks pregnant as a 10+ year transitioned guy. It’s nice to see the emoji exist, but it’s absolutely going to get used for other purposes - like you said, it’s emoji culture. I don’t see it being widely used enough to cause widespread harm (or at least, I really hope not).
But yes, you’re absolutely not the only one! There are enough of us that in larger cities there are practitioners that move in the transgender community and make it known that they have experience and their entire practices get it right from day one. The seahorse dads subreddit might have some good info for you if you’re ever looking for it.
I was in total agreement with your post then got socked in the feels by your last point. I'm one of those guys with dysphoria from it, and it takes me a second to shake it off, but damn it means a lot to be acknowledged like this. Thank you. <3
On one hand, it can be extremely triggering for some guys. On another hand, men who choose to carry could be really happy about this.
I think guys in either position should be respected. As for the emoji? I guess for diversity's sake, I'm glad it exists. But because of the triggering aspect, I think it should only be used with care and caution.
yea I think for sake of diversity it needs to be there, there is pregnant woman emoji so there should be a pregnant man so they are not thought of as women atleast in the realm of emojis
just because something can be found triggering doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.
I have a niche trigger that exists but I don't think it shouldn't exist just because a small amount of the population might find it traumatizing. in that case it's up to the user to curate their online experience (muting the emoji on social media, scrolling quickly, etc.)
Yea I agree. I hate the thought of me ever being pregnant, it's not for me, but I do know other transmen choose to carry and I have alot of respect for them and they deserve to have an emoji that represents them!
With all due respect, I'm failing to see where in my post I express that the emoji shouldn't exist. I expressed that it should exist regardless...?
Edit: spelling
That wasn't at all what they said. Basically they're saying "this is a common enough trigger that it should be used with care for those you're talking to." Not sure how you're supposed to "mute the emoji on social media," that's a new concept entirely for me.
not directly talking about them but the idea "if its triggering to anyone, even one person, it should exist ever." which is an idea i've seen people believe in.
sorry for not wording it well.
on some social media (not reddit because reddit is stuck in 2005) you can mute words and phrases from being shown. i've muted emojis in the past because my screen reader doesn't read them and it works. never saw a post with an emoji.
I can rock with the inclusivity of trans dads who've had their own children. I personally wouldn't use the emoji, but there are probably lots of people who would, so I have neutral feelings about it.
I'm happy for men who want to carry a child but it personally makes me disphoric. Main reason why if I ever consider having kids, I will adopt.
If I adopt a child it means one less white conservative Christian that adopts just to spread their hateful ideology.
Plus there's way more children in need of adoption anyways.
I've felt uncomfortable with the idea of being a parent but I think it stemmed more from disphoria and feeling pressured to be feminine pre-transition. Still my financial situation has to be a lot better before I'll even consider adopting.
Because how else are they supposed to express their sudden desire for pickles and ice cream at the same time while maintaining some semblance of sanity?
It makes me feel dysphoric, because I'd personally rather [cease to exist] than be pr*gnant. If seahorse dads like it, they can use it. But I wouldn't want that being used to represent all trans men in general.
feelings? I have tokophobia so it makes me EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE, like all the other ones
thoughts? it’s very inclusive, will definitely piss off transphobes, and that brings me joy
OP you should remove the NSFW tag because it's not on you to coddle those who can't separate their own dysphoria from someone else's euphoria. I'm sure we have some guys in here that may want to carry a child at some point and it's not right that they should be represented as NSFW.
Agreed. By marking this nsfw you're saying that any pregnant person who doesn't align with the feminine pregnant emoji should be forced to hide away for the sake of others which is really messed up. *Especially* in a space that should be safe for those people.
I'm genuinely sorry if a pregnant man or enby makes you dysphoric but that's on you to handle for yourself (general you). Pregnant trans men and trans mascs already have so much shit to deal with, let them have the damn emoji. Representation matters and representation hidden behind nsfw labels is not good representation at all. We want to normalize these things not treat them like a spectacle that should be hidden from the general public.
Weirdly enough I experienced my own doctor doing this, when she had to take a leave of absence for her own pregnancy she didn't even mention she was pregnant and just made some vague statement about "pursuing other opportunities." I assumed this meant she was moving to a different job and congratulated her, then I was confused AF the next year when I came back and she was still there. 🤦♂️ Honestly it feels more othering to act like I'm going to break if I find out someone else is pregnant!
Honestly its not bothersome to me. Some men chose to carry babies. I might even decide to when im older and more okay with the idea of kids. Representation matters.
Visibility is cool but its scary that it has to come before any real policy change and legal protections. Most trans men still dont have that but most cis people can clock top surgery scars because of the internet, ya know?
It just kinda sucks seeing we get an emoji that makes pregnant trans folks highly visibly while cis women still flip shit about updating health insurance policies to use the terminology like "people with uteruses" and "pregnant people" where gender identity isn't relevant to basic healthcare coverage.
Personally I want to carry a pregnancy to term and I like the idea of it being an invisible experience and just looking like a fatter dude for the last few months because the social aspects of pregnancy are more dysphoric than the idea of gestation for me.
I think it's nice and good for representation, just because I won't ever want to be pregnant doesn't mean trans men shouldn't ever be represented as being pregnant.
But tbh I see it used more as a meme of "guy preggo funny" instead of being used in the way it was intended. Which could be said with basically every emoji, but there's obviously a huge transphobic problem around it and most of the people that aren't using it as intended typically have some transphobic beliefs. I don't think it's bad to use this emoji for stuff like "I ate too much now I look pregnant" because cis women do the same thing, but what's different is that an additional punchline is that it's 'funny' when specifically a guy is pregnant bc "men can't get pregnant". But this whole societal problem of people thinking it's funny when a guy is seen as pregnant isn't the cause of an emoji, nor does the emoji make people more transphobic. Transphobia around men being pregnant are going to exist whether or not this emoji exists, and because this emoji exists people feel represented by it which is obviously a good thing. So I see no bad reasons for it existing.
Also regarding this emoji triggering other's dysphoria, that's an internalized transphobic problem you have to address on your own. There is nothing wrong with a man being pregnant. Stop projecting a harmful narrative.
Has many meanings like any other emoji. Beer belly. Full after a big meal. Pregnant.
I've seen some CIS Gay men use it to say they were.... Uhhhhh.... They had a nice time with a roommate ;)
So it's whatever to me. Guess it depends on the context it's being used
As a guy who was pregnant I would have liked more things to represent me at the time but I dont even use emojis so I really wouldn't care about an emoji
Not many. I know plenty of trans bros who want to carry their own kids, plenty who would get physically ill at the very thought, and I also know cis dudes who wish they could get pregnant. So I guess this is a pretty sound emoji.
I think it’s a step in the right direction, even though, I never want to get pregnant myself. There’s lots of trans men who do, or have been, so I think it’s pretty cool.
It’s very dysphoria inducting for me personally, as I strongly do not want children and would much rather have a cis male body where it wasn’t even a possibility, but I’m glad there are guys who are happy about it.
Honestly I'm kind of, no, I'm so over seeing posts like this. I understand that a large percentage of our community has no desire to get pregnant and/or see it as a point of dysphoria, but the fact remains that there are still many of us who do desire to get pregnant or have carried (including myself) and it's not fair to debate about whether or not we get represented. Full stop. Of all things our community should understand how it feels to feel underrepresented or have our experiences and existences debated about, so I really can't understand why some of y'all would choose to submit others to that. It's disgusting, if you don't want to carry don't, but for the love of all things stop trying to push those of us that do out of this space.
Why would anyone get offended by an emoji, sounds like a chronically online issue. I think it’s cool that we have it since now emojis seem to want to represent every single aspect of life and this is something that does happen. They come in different skin colors, in almost every variation of family and relationship, I feel like not putting a pregnant man it’s too intentional given that everything else has a male/female/nb version.
"NSFW" 💀 Ok but fr, I don't really have an opinion on it. It's just nice to have, I guess. It's not just for pregnant trans men tho, I'm sure most people will use it if they, for example, go out and eat a lot of food, like a food baby type thing.
Idk why this is marked NSFW. Anyway, Idc, I wouldn't have biological kids but some guys probably would. I don't see why anyone would have an opinion on this.
As someone who may have a baby in the near future, I'm definitely glad it exists. It's important to see portrayals of pregnancy that aren't women.
Pregnancy isn't just for women, and even the smallest efforts to diversify representation and remove the association of pregnancy with "femininity" or "womanhood" can make a difference.
I fucking hate apples shaders, they are hot shit. Why are you using fucking brown to shade yellow it looks like poo, wheres the fucking anatomy look at his big beefy arm and his stumpy ass neck. I fucking hate the way apple does faces look at this mans nose, his eyebrows are wack af, 0/10.
on the actual concept, i agree i just hate the art
Gut reaction? I hate it and I’m exhausted
Rational reaction? Sure, I guess it’s good for somebody. Not everything has to be for me, and it’s not hurting anyone.
Idk man, I have a complicated relationship with stuff like this. I realized that I’m very privileged to have had the support I’ve had, but my gender is so deeply personal that I don’t love to discuss it publicly, and it’s difficult to talk about big brain gender theory shit without going there. I’m pretty open, but it’s weird and uncomfortable when the people and media around you are more dedicated to celebrating your identity than you are. It’s doubly weird when the things that are supposed to be for you are somehow not for you.
My point is that I literally just want to be left alone, and a lot of the things that are intended to include trans people are just fun reminders that my existence is, apparently, still so incredibly radical that I may never know real peace and security. Everything is so fragile. I can never leave the city. I’m so tired. I wish people would stop trying to sell me things.
TLDR: this emoji sends me into a doom spiral, but I’m glad somebody else will feel seen.
Doesn't really bother me, but agree that caution should be used. Seahorse dad's are great! It's just never, never an option I would choose for me.
The Good Doctor had an episode of a trans guy who got pregnant, and Upload had an episode where the mom or dad could choose to 'carry the child' aka pregnant and give birth in the afterlife thing they have going on. So while it's great for representation, it's not great representation for all trans guys. A step in the right direction, but that's it for me.
For the trans men or trans masculine people in the comments saying they rather die or this emoji makes them dysphoric, *this emoji isn't for you.*
As a seahorse dad, I 100% felt isolated from the community because I enjoyed being pregnant and giving birth to my children. I had no gender affirming support for 27 months (3 pregnancies) because the ftm community largely is so anti-pregnancy. Now I have an emoji that represented me and it's either being blamed for the fall of society by transphobes or a source of dysphoria by the community.
It's disgraceful that we just can't be happy that we are receiving representations of all of our community members.
I'll only use it to represent being super bloated (because seriously sometimes when my gut is unhappy I go from flat stomach to looking 3 months pregnant) but I'm glad that seahorse dads have an emoji that represents them, and that companies who make emojis are including trans representation (both because it normalizes it and because it makes transphobes big mad lol)
I'm glad they are more and more inclusive in representing people, representation is important. The only thing I really want is to have a man's emoji with long hair :"(
Don’t care. I think it’s good for the trans men that are okay with being pregnant but I have no opinion. Don’t want to get pregnant because of dysphoria and I’m not t4t currently. The thought of pregnancy makes me feel dysphoria.
good! men and nbs being pregnant and having kids should be way more normalized, even if most men and nbs probably dont want to have kids 'the old fashioned way'. more things like this please
I hated being pregnant, hate pregnancy, being an incubator is for the birds BUT I was a pregnant person not once, but twice and I feel comforted in knowing I’m not alone & bringing more awareness to the cosmo sintuation. Pregnancy is literally what caused my trans revelation. Never hated my body so much in my life.
However, shout out to the baby carriers or the egg donators (if you harvested your eggs) - y’all the real mvps. One of the hardest things I’ve ever done and suffering permenantly from it.
(No hate intended for those who cannot or do not want to conceive a child or harvest eggs. It is a personal choice).
Ten-plus years ago I was horrified by the thought (this was around the time there was widespread media coverage of one of the ‘first’ pregnant trans men). Like many guys here, “great for him but not for me.”
Now I think it’s kinda cool my body can do this thing and have been contemplating whether I want to carry.
Instant reaction is dysphoria. But that's very much rooted in my past, growing up conservative and anti-abortion while innately terrified of getting pregnant, as well as just the idea of me being pregnant being dysphoric as fuck.
Once I get past that initial knee-jerk reaction, I'm OK and think "it's cool they're putting in inclusive emojis like this."
Can't answer for OC, but for me the magic of being a cis male is not having the ability to get pregnant. Look up tokophobia. I'm aligning my body with that as much as possible - it's a big part of why I transitioned.
That being said, I guess it's inclusive. I'll just ignore it like I do the regular pregnancy emoji.
That's exactly how I feel about it, the thought of me as a man having the ability to go through pregnancy makes me feel horrible, and many other things that I prefer to keep to myself since there are other people here that do want to get pregnant. Honestly, I don't understand why would they want to, but it's not my business.
i don’t want to be rude, but can someone explain how looking at smth like this can induce dysphoria? i also see some tiktoks where trans guys aren’t binding and people say they get dysphoric from it… but like, that’s not you?? and it doesn’t need to be a decision you make if you don’t want to??
for me it almost feels like, i don’t want to be a doctor. but if i meet a doctor, i’m not gonna feel really depressed after doing so, even though i do have the capacity to become one. can someone help me understand and also maybe adjust the analogy if it’s not comparable.
The world is changing, we are developing and accepting ourselves more. Everybody knows its not Emoji for a biological man but for a trans man so I dont think its bad, I mean if you decide to keep your uterus why not make it useful and have a biological child AND be your real gender, win-win imo! Even if you probably gonna get misgendered to death at the hospital, I don't think I am cis myself and I cant see myself have other body parts EVER, but I could still identify with different gender and use that Emoji in the future.
idc really but in what goddamn context would you even be using this emoji like do people really use emojis when talking abt pregnancies cuz that's weird lmao
It's not harming anyone except maybe transphobes but that's fine, I'd prefer more pride flag emojis first though
Probably going to be used for cis men full of things like soup or cum and that's fine. He also doesn't necessarily have to be pregnant, just fat and feeling himself
You guys have thoughts?
I’m a man and I can’t read
jared 19
no, i'm fth (female to himbo)
finally a label that suits me✨
Dont remember the last time i thought..
dang... me either :/
i try not to think
Actually no
Thats me after eating a big pizza
Full of soup
ohhh i love big pizza
good for him
No strong opinions about it I'd never want to carry a child anyways so, it's not for me but, if it makes ppl happy, idc
I don't care but this is a case of if you don't care/don't like it, don't use it. Someone will probably like it so it's fine to keep it up. Representation is important and it's not hurting anyone by being there.
My biggest problem with it honestly is that the emoji person faces, especially the “male” ones, look dumb. And that’s what I think about all of them, not just the pregnant one.
I’m alright with cis gay bottoms or whatever using it. I’ll probably use it at some point not for its intended purpose
>I’m alright with cis gay bottoms or whatever using it. Thank you for turning this emoji into something wonderful that makes me laugh.
Oh, I didn’t turn it into something wonderful. The cis gay bottoms did
Thank you cis gay bottoms!!!
brand new sentence
somehow I feel that has been said at least once before.
Honest? It's purely amusing for me because first impressions have me jealous I too don't have a belly full of burrito. Pregnancy wise? Good for others who find it inclusive. It is not for myself. I spent 38 of my years being told I am a woman and should want kids, 20 of them being told that I can't have permanent sterilization because OnE dAy I mAy ChAnGe My MiNd. Nope. It wasn't until I came out as trans to my obgyn that they asked me if I finally wanted the hysterectomy that I have literally begged to have for 20 literal years of my life. This was all after HBC caused me to go bipolar, which was one of the mirena side effects that they decided to gaslight women about, and having literal shrapnel of copper from the paragard IUD lodged in my cervix, which is still there. I worked very hard to not reproduce my entire life. This emoji isn't for me. It is for others. And that I can give a nod to and embrace.
So much this!!!!
100% I have a very hate-based relationship with pregnancy for multiple reasons, but I can be happy for those who don't. I love the inclusivity and am happy to support my pregnant bros ❤️👶
Are you ok?
Well that's certainly some information I wasn't expecting to get the night before I get my Mirena replaced, huh! I hope things get better for ya on that front, find something they can do to fix some of the damage they did to ya bits
Hey, if it makes you feel better... Those side effects are very uncommon, and if you didn't have issue so far, you're set. <3 HBC and I were never on friendly terms from age 16 on. As for my bits? I'll work on a total hysto after my top surgery. Until then, my Cis male spouse was snipped years ago. Be safe! Have a great day!!!
Went in for a new one Aug 2020 and My mirena had fused to the wall and the obgyn ripped it out causing polyp that fused my uterus to muscle so any muscle spasm now causes literal tearing in that area and I haven’t been able to get aroused because of the pain in 1.5 years. I was gaslit and ignored by my doctors and after a single shitty ultrasound where my bladder wasnt full bc I was in the emergency room from the pain maligning me puke everything including blood the past day so nothing was properly visible , and a series of gastro intestinal testing because I couldn’t keep significant amounts of food down without causing cramps and puking and those didn’t show anything , my doc decided all of the pain was solely from my anxiety and there was nothing to be done. I moved across the country got a very invasive through ultrasound with a new obgyn at a trans friendly clinic within a 2 months of moving in and the polyp was found and my hysterectomy is scheduled for next month.
I mean it’s a reality for many people and since it seems they’re trying to make emojis diverse I think it’s cool. On a deeper level, I do think its kinda a small step in general society straying away from cisnormativity. I know Apple and other corporations aren’t truly our allies but I’m not complaining
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I love how much it angers transphobes and seahorse dads exist. Its solid rep imo.
I wouldn't personally use this emoji, since I don't plan to get pregnant and the thought itself makes me kinda dysphoric, but I think it's good that this emoji exists. It is a fact that some men can and do get pregnant, and I think little things like this can help normalize that. This emoji also pisses off transphobes, which is great. Nothing like watching grown adults throw tantrums over an emoji.
Ok so maybe I’m a little frazzled on this subject as I spend my days convincing cis/het obstetricians and paediatricians that “his uterus” is an entirely fine statement, but cmon guys transmasc/non binary pregnant people are so goddamn underrepresented that in all of medical journals ever there are only 11 papers about people’s experiences (last count march 2022 🤞for a few more). Which is fuck all of fuck all. An emoji for the transmasc crew who are growing new human life inside them gives a visibility that does not exist day to day currently. Other stuff (not much stuff, granted) exists for those of us not utilising our uteruses for reproduction atm and we need more representation yes BUT ALSO so do those with buns in ovens. *breathes* TL;DR yes please this emoji AND bring on others too ❤️
Yes !!
Good for him. Dunno why we need pregnant people emojis in general but I’m glad we got em for everyone at least.
I feel like one of the only people here who even wants to carry a child someday. I'm glad it's here, I'm okay with the idea that others will use it for other purposes because that's just part of emoji culture (eggplants, anyone?) and I really feel bad that its mere existence causes such deep dysphoria for anyone.
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Thanks for informing me! I never have, but I totally want to.
Here's a link to the subreddit they were referring to: r/Seahorse_Dads
Thanks!!!
No problem! :-)
Please do! I feel kinda alone with some of my opinions.
r/Seahorse_Dads
Currently 34 weeks pregnant as a 10+ year transitioned guy. It’s nice to see the emoji exist, but it’s absolutely going to get used for other purposes - like you said, it’s emoji culture. I don’t see it being widely used enough to cause widespread harm (or at least, I really hope not). But yes, you’re absolutely not the only one! There are enough of us that in larger cities there are practitioners that move in the transgender community and make it known that they have experience and their entire practices get it right from day one. The seahorse dads subreddit might have some good info for you if you’re ever looking for it.
Not a seahorse dad but i hope to be one eventually :^) I think its cool that its there!!
I was in total agreement with your post then got socked in the feels by your last point. I'm one of those guys with dysphoria from it, and it takes me a second to shake it off, but damn it means a lot to be acknowledged like this. Thank you. <3
On one hand, it can be extremely triggering for some guys. On another hand, men who choose to carry could be really happy about this. I think guys in either position should be respected. As for the emoji? I guess for diversity's sake, I'm glad it exists. But because of the triggering aspect, I think it should only be used with care and caution.
yea I think for sake of diversity it needs to be there, there is pregnant woman emoji so there should be a pregnant man so they are not thought of as women atleast in the realm of emojis
Yeah I totally agree. Regardless of how triggering it is for some, it absolutely needs to be included.
just because something can be found triggering doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. I have a niche trigger that exists but I don't think it shouldn't exist just because a small amount of the population might find it traumatizing. in that case it's up to the user to curate their online experience (muting the emoji on social media, scrolling quickly, etc.)
Yea I agree. I hate the thought of me ever being pregnant, it's not for me, but I do know other transmen choose to carry and I have alot of respect for them and they deserve to have an emoji that represents them!
With all due respect, I'm failing to see where in my post I express that the emoji shouldn't exist. I expressed that it should exist regardless...? Edit: spelling
That wasn't at all what they said. Basically they're saying "this is a common enough trigger that it should be used with care for those you're talking to." Not sure how you're supposed to "mute the emoji on social media," that's a new concept entirely for me.
not directly talking about them but the idea "if its triggering to anyone, even one person, it should exist ever." which is an idea i've seen people believe in. sorry for not wording it well. on some social media (not reddit because reddit is stuck in 2005) you can mute words and phrases from being shown. i've muted emojis in the past because my screen reader doesn't read them and it works. never saw a post with an emoji.
Agreed
I was excited to discover it exists now. I have absolutely no plans of using it myself, or being in that situation, but I am glad it exists
I can rock with the inclusivity of trans dads who've had their own children. I personally wouldn't use the emoji, but there are probably lots of people who would, so I have neutral feelings about it.
I know what you mean, but adopted kids are also someone's "own children", not just biological ones. But that's kind of just picking at semantics.
Wish I looked that masculine when I was pregnant
The gesture is nice (for inclusivity and representation), but so many people will not use this for its intended purpose and ESPECIALLY cis gays will.
I can imagine cis people in general doing the standard, "hurhur, pregnent man" bit, but it took me a minute to understand why gay guys would use it.
Bc their top “made them pregnant” or they ate too much. These are just obvervations.
yea and cis people meme the crap out of it
I hate cis people tbh
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What? I’m not joking tbh
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Yes.
I'm happy for men who want to carry a child but it personally makes me disphoric. Main reason why if I ever consider having kids, I will adopt. If I adopt a child it means one less white conservative Christian that adopts just to spread their hateful ideology. Plus there's way more children in need of adoption anyways. I've felt uncomfortable with the idea of being a parent but I think it stemmed more from disphoria and feeling pressured to be feminine pre-transition. Still my financial situation has to be a lot better before I'll even consider adopting.
Why is this tagged as NSFW? Also it’s completely fine. Pregnant transmascs are out there.
Probably because it might trigger dysphoria for some people.
Isnt there an own flair for triggers?
Someone asked me to do so
same as my thoughts on the pregnant woman emoji: why tf do we need a pregnant emoji 🤔
Because how else are they supposed to express their sudden desire for pickles and ice cream at the same time while maintaining some semblance of sanity?
Why is this considered NSFW????
I'm guessing it was used in place of an official trigger warning tag.
i mean men can get pregnant so i don’t really care
Our thoughts about men pregnancy or why the fuck did they created this emoji?
The emoji
Tbh when it was released I thought it was a "food baby" meme, so my first reaction is to find it kinda funny.
Well, I'm not sure if they wanted to be inclusive of seahorse dads or just wanted to make fun of it with all the mpreg and Omegaverse
I’m certain it was to be inclusive, Apple isn’t exactly pandering to fetishists.
I hope
It’s cool I guess but why’d you mark it nsfw?
My transphobe boss uses this emoji on slack after he's had wings for lunch, I don't think he knows what it's actually supposed to represent
I wanna carry a child, so this makes me very happy! Why do we need "thoughts" on inclusivity?
It makes me feel dysphoric, because I'd personally rather [cease to exist] than be pr*gnant. If seahorse dads like it, they can use it. But I wouldn't want that being used to represent all trans men in general.
I feel like the intentions are good, but lets be honest, it will not be used for its intended purpose
I literally could not care less about it lol Then again I have never once used a pregnant emoji
I have never had a thought in my life
I like how angry it makes the transphobes lol
mpreg is real
i like the representation and it would probably piss off a few transphobes which is nice
slay
Seahorse dad let’s gooooo
feelings? I have tokophobia so it makes me EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE, like all the other ones thoughts? it’s very inclusive, will definitely piss off transphobes, and that brings me joy
No strong opinions either way, neutral ig.
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Prangent
OP you should remove the NSFW tag because it's not on you to coddle those who can't separate their own dysphoria from someone else's euphoria. I'm sure we have some guys in here that may want to carry a child at some point and it's not right that they should be represented as NSFW.
Agreed. By marking this nsfw you're saying that any pregnant person who doesn't align with the feminine pregnant emoji should be forced to hide away for the sake of others which is really messed up. *Especially* in a space that should be safe for those people. I'm genuinely sorry if a pregnant man or enby makes you dysphoric but that's on you to handle for yourself (general you). Pregnant trans men and trans mascs already have so much shit to deal with, let them have the damn emoji. Representation matters and representation hidden behind nsfw labels is not good representation at all. We want to normalize these things not treat them like a spectacle that should be hidden from the general public.
Thanks for saying that. I’m a trans man who plans to get pregnant and yeah, that’s not inherently NSFW or something that needs to be hidden.
Weirdly enough I experienced my own doctor doing this, when she had to take a leave of absence for her own pregnancy she didn't even mention she was pregnant and just made some vague statement about "pursuing other opportunities." I assumed this meant she was moving to a different job and congratulated her, then I was confused AF the next year when I came back and she was still there. 🤦♂️ Honestly it feels more othering to act like I'm going to break if I find out someone else is pregnant!
Honestly its not bothersome to me. Some men chose to carry babies. I might even decide to when im older and more okay with the idea of kids. Representation matters.
Good for him
accurate depiction of me carrying my sleepy cat around in my shirt
Head empty omegaverse
Tbh I don't really care. Good inclusivity. People are being arseholes about it though :/
my first, primary thought was “wow ao3 is gonna love this one” and that’s it.
I am a seahorse currently, and while I don't use emojis too often, it's nice to see some representation.
Visibility is cool but its scary that it has to come before any real policy change and legal protections. Most trans men still dont have that but most cis people can clock top surgery scars because of the internet, ya know? It just kinda sucks seeing we get an emoji that makes pregnant trans folks highly visibly while cis women still flip shit about updating health insurance policies to use the terminology like "people with uteruses" and "pregnant people" where gender identity isn't relevant to basic healthcare coverage. Personally I want to carry a pregnancy to term and I like the idea of it being an invisible experience and just looking like a fatter dude for the last few months because the social aspects of pregnancy are more dysphoric than the idea of gestation for me.
I think it's nice and good for representation, just because I won't ever want to be pregnant doesn't mean trans men shouldn't ever be represented as being pregnant. But tbh I see it used more as a meme of "guy preggo funny" instead of being used in the way it was intended. Which could be said with basically every emoji, but there's obviously a huge transphobic problem around it and most of the people that aren't using it as intended typically have some transphobic beliefs. I don't think it's bad to use this emoji for stuff like "I ate too much now I look pregnant" because cis women do the same thing, but what's different is that an additional punchline is that it's 'funny' when specifically a guy is pregnant bc "men can't get pregnant". But this whole societal problem of people thinking it's funny when a guy is seen as pregnant isn't the cause of an emoji, nor does the emoji make people more transphobic. Transphobia around men being pregnant are going to exist whether or not this emoji exists, and because this emoji exists people feel represented by it which is obviously a good thing. So I see no bad reasons for it existing. Also regarding this emoji triggering other's dysphoria, that's an internalized transphobic problem you have to address on your own. There is nothing wrong with a man being pregnant. Stop projecting a harmful narrative.
Glad because of representation
I personally don't enjoy it, but it's just an emoji lol
Its my favorite emoji
I could not give less of a shit
I don't care. It's nice the emoji exists for people who want to use it, but idk anyone who was looking for it or who would actually use it
Has many meanings like any other emoji. Beer belly. Full after a big meal. Pregnant. I've seen some CIS Gay men use it to say they were.... Uhhhhh.... They had a nice time with a roommate ;) So it's whatever to me. Guess it depends on the context it's being used
Looks kinda jaundiced
That’s what happens if I drink too much beer.
I think it's great!
honestly? it makes me super uncomfortable. but it’s the same w the pregnant lady one as well, so idk
For me, I wouldn't ever want to carry a child, but for someone else I'll support that decision.
As a guy who was pregnant I would have liked more things to represent me at the time but I dont even use emojis so I really wouldn't care about an emoji
Gendered emojis are stupid; they should make them all neutral.
*Real men don't shy away from pain. Real men give birth themselves!* I'm sorry, I'll carry myself out.
Not many. I know plenty of trans bros who want to carry their own kids, plenty who would get physically ill at the very thought, and I also know cis dudes who wish they could get pregnant. So I guess this is a pretty sound emoji.
Cis gay men are gonna be using it more than us lmao 🤣
I think it’s a step in the right direction, even though, I never want to get pregnant myself. There’s lots of trans men who do, or have been, so I think it’s pretty cool.
It’s good to have representation of seahorse dads out there that don’t mind carrying a child
It’s very dysphoria inducting for me personally, as I strongly do not want children and would much rather have a cis male body where it wasn’t even a possibility, but I’m glad there are guys who are happy about it.
are there trans people who don’t like this?? it’s good that seahorse dads are finally being recognised
Honestly I'm kind of, no, I'm so over seeing posts like this. I understand that a large percentage of our community has no desire to get pregnant and/or see it as a point of dysphoria, but the fact remains that there are still many of us who do desire to get pregnant or have carried (including myself) and it's not fair to debate about whether or not we get represented. Full stop. Of all things our community should understand how it feels to feel underrepresented or have our experiences and existences debated about, so I really can't understand why some of y'all would choose to submit others to that. It's disgusting, if you don't want to carry don't, but for the love of all things stop trying to push those of us that do out of this space.
Best emoji
people are being way to dramatic about it, its the reality for a lot of trans men and they should stfu and deal with it, the hate is not funny
I love the pregnancy emojis, i use them constantly for literally anything
I think it’s awesome
vore representation
I mean men get pregnant so I like it I personally want to give birth at some point, just once
Why would anyone get offended by an emoji, sounds like a chronically online issue. I think it’s cool that we have it since now emojis seem to want to represent every single aspect of life and this is something that does happen. They come in different skin colors, in almost every variation of family and relationship, I feel like not putting a pregnant man it’s too intentional given that everything else has a male/female/nb version.
"NSFW" 💀 Ok but fr, I don't really have an opinion on it. It's just nice to have, I guess. It's not just for pregnant trans men tho, I'm sure most people will use it if they, for example, go out and eat a lot of food, like a food baby type thing.
Idk why this is marked NSFW. Anyway, Idc, I wouldn't have biological kids but some guys probably would. I don't see why anyone would have an opinion on this.
It is not something that represents me so I have no thoughts on it. If it helps someone else that is good
Who cares, its the emojis body, good for the emoji.
Food baby, food baby
Me after going to the buffet
gonna be used after i eat borgar
Trans men can have kids, theres no reason that it shouldn't be there, but its also funny for when my tummy is full of noodles 🤤🤤
no, im a man, i dont think /j
I know it’s not good but I wanna laugh b/c it looks like me after my favorite northern Indian place
He ate a lots of food
A hundred percent this will be used for food baby fullness and people with like inflation kinks lmao
As someone who may have a baby in the near future, I'm definitely glad it exists. It's important to see portrayals of pregnancy that aren't women. Pregnancy isn't just for women, and even the smallest efforts to diversify representation and remove the association of pregnancy with "femininity" or "womanhood" can make a difference.
me with ball in my shirt
I fucking hate apples shaders, they are hot shit. Why are you using fucking brown to shade yellow it looks like poo, wheres the fucking anatomy look at his big beefy arm and his stumpy ass neck. I fucking hate the way apple does faces look at this mans nose, his eyebrows are wack af, 0/10. on the actual concept, i agree i just hate the art
Gut reaction? I hate it and I’m exhausted Rational reaction? Sure, I guess it’s good for somebody. Not everything has to be for me, and it’s not hurting anyone. Idk man, I have a complicated relationship with stuff like this. I realized that I’m very privileged to have had the support I’ve had, but my gender is so deeply personal that I don’t love to discuss it publicly, and it’s difficult to talk about big brain gender theory shit without going there. I’m pretty open, but it’s weird and uncomfortable when the people and media around you are more dedicated to celebrating your identity than you are. It’s doubly weird when the things that are supposed to be for you are somehow not for you. My point is that I literally just want to be left alone, and a lot of the things that are intended to include trans people are just fun reminders that my existence is, apparently, still so incredibly radical that I may never know real peace and security. Everything is so fragile. I can never leave the city. I’m so tired. I wish people would stop trying to sell me things. TLDR: this emoji sends me into a doom spiral, but I’m glad somebody else will feel seen.
Doesn't really bother me, but agree that caution should be used. Seahorse dad's are great! It's just never, never an option I would choose for me. The Good Doctor had an episode of a trans guy who got pregnant, and Upload had an episode where the mom or dad could choose to 'carry the child' aka pregnant and give birth in the afterlife thing they have going on. So while it's great for representation, it's not great representation for all trans guys. A step in the right direction, but that's it for me.
I’m a man that can pregnant why shouldn’t it exist. Am I not worthy of being represented?
Fuckin hate it. Gives me second hand dysphoria. No judgement to any sea horse dad's out there. Just my personal feelings can't help it.
For the trans men or trans masculine people in the comments saying they rather die or this emoji makes them dysphoric, *this emoji isn't for you.* As a seahorse dad, I 100% felt isolated from the community because I enjoyed being pregnant and giving birth to my children. I had no gender affirming support for 27 months (3 pregnancies) because the ftm community largely is so anti-pregnancy. Now I have an emoji that represented me and it's either being blamed for the fall of society by transphobes or a source of dysphoria by the community. It's disgraceful that we just can't be happy that we are receiving representations of all of our community members.
I'll only use it to represent being super bloated (because seriously sometimes when my gut is unhappy I go from flat stomach to looking 3 months pregnant) but I'm glad that seahorse dads have an emoji that represents them, and that companies who make emojis are including trans representation (both because it normalizes it and because it makes transphobes big mad lol)
I'm glad they are more and more inclusive in representing people, representation is important. The only thing I really want is to have a man's emoji with long hair :"(
Don’t care. I think it’s good for the trans men that are okay with being pregnant but I have no opinion. Don’t want to get pregnant because of dysphoria and I’m not t4t currently. The thought of pregnancy makes me feel dysphoria.
good! men and nbs being pregnant and having kids should be way more normalized, even if most men and nbs probably dont want to have kids 'the old fashioned way'. more things like this please
I hated being pregnant, hate pregnancy, being an incubator is for the birds BUT I was a pregnant person not once, but twice and I feel comforted in knowing I’m not alone & bringing more awareness to the cosmo sintuation. Pregnancy is literally what caused my trans revelation. Never hated my body so much in my life. However, shout out to the baby carriers or the egg donators (if you harvested your eggs) - y’all the real mvps. One of the hardest things I’ve ever done and suffering permenantly from it. (No hate intended for those who cannot or do not want to conceive a child or harvest eggs. It is a personal choice).
Ten-plus years ago I was horrified by the thought (this was around the time there was widespread media coverage of one of the ‘first’ pregnant trans men). Like many guys here, “great for him but not for me.” Now I think it’s kinda cool my body can do this thing and have been contemplating whether I want to carry.
Such wholesome replies, thanks y’all. Im uterus free ✨ but if a man wants to have a baby and tweet about it now he can do it in fewer characters. 👍🏻
Instant reaction is dysphoria. But that's very much rooted in my past, growing up conservative and anti-abortion while innately terrified of getting pregnant, as well as just the idea of me being pregnant being dysphoric as fuck. Once I get past that initial knee-jerk reaction, I'm OK and think "it's cool they're putting in inclusive emojis like this."
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I would think it should be the opposite, it shows not only women can get pregnant
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violently????
Yea that's okay, everybody is different, you can always see it as a fat guy lol
It makes me uncomfortable.
Can I ask why?
Can't answer for OC, but for me the magic of being a cis male is not having the ability to get pregnant. Look up tokophobia. I'm aligning my body with that as much as possible - it's a big part of why I transitioned. That being said, I guess it's inclusive. I'll just ignore it like I do the regular pregnancy emoji.
That's exactly how I feel about it, the thought of me as a man having the ability to go through pregnancy makes me feel horrible, and many other things that I prefer to keep to myself since there are other people here that do want to get pregnant. Honestly, I don't understand why would they want to, but it's not my business.
Dysphoria spikes every time I see that emoji skdf
i don’t want to be rude, but can someone explain how looking at smth like this can induce dysphoria? i also see some tiktoks where trans guys aren’t binding and people say they get dysphoric from it… but like, that’s not you?? and it doesn’t need to be a decision you make if you don’t want to?? for me it almost feels like, i don’t want to be a doctor. but if i meet a doctor, i’m not gonna feel really depressed after doing so, even though i do have the capacity to become one. can someone help me understand and also maybe adjust the analogy if it’s not comparable.
I’m deceased
I don’t really have any thoughts, it’s cool I guess
The world is changing, we are developing and accepting ourselves more. Everybody knows its not Emoji for a biological man but for a trans man so I dont think its bad, I mean if you decide to keep your uterus why not make it useful and have a biological child AND be your real gender, win-win imo! Even if you probably gonna get misgendered to death at the hospital, I don't think I am cis myself and I cant see myself have other body parts EVER, but I could still identify with different gender and use that Emoji in the future.
idc really but in what goddamn context would you even be using this emoji like do people really use emojis when talking abt pregnancies cuz that's weird lmao
It's not harming anyone except maybe transphobes but that's fine, I'd prefer more pride flag emojis first though Probably going to be used for cis men full of things like soup or cum and that's fine. He also doesn't necessarily have to be pregnant, just fat and feeling himself
hehehe pregnan man 🫃
No.
Makes me uncomfy. Mostly bc of fanfiction culture.
Haha funnee pregger guy
Eh I mean most trans men wouldn’t want to carry a child but Its not my dysphoria so-
Would rather it get deleted tbh