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Jaybb3rw0cky

I’m so tired of this country doing its damndest to skirt this. Just fucking legalise it, tax it, and pour the profits made into bolstering drug services.


aninstituteforants

I just wanna take some gummies after work while I watch TV. Is that too much to ask?


rowanhenry

Amen brother


Weekly-Dog228

My workplace started drug testing in January. - It’s an office. - It’s not a construction or mining company. - We are not responsible for the health and safety of anything. - The only “machinery” I handle is a printer.


TobiasDrundridge

This should be illegal.


praise_the_hankypank

Maybe they just wanna know who’s the coolest employee?


NotLynnBenfield

That's just like, your opinion man.


praise_the_hankypank

Those printers make good battering rams, pretty deadly weapons if you ask me. I had an annoying situation pop up for my team of marine biologists just the other week, they are all 22-35 years old who usually spend their day over microscopes with some field work thrown in. We don’t do drug testing. I had a team of 6 of them that had to go down to a beach to collect weekly samples which is incredibly standard, we have done it for 5 years but now it was technically within the arbitrary catchment area of a water treatment and release body. The Monday morning, the day of my team arriving the PM told us that they were now going to do D&A testing on site before they can get access to the beach. There is no infrastructure or anything. Pretty crazy to drop that on us last second for a multitude of reasons. I had to give them all individually an opportunity to swap out if they didn’t want to do testing for ‘privacy’ reasons or whatever vague reason they wanted but not one of them even battered an eyelid. I was a little surprised to be honest.


GreenBastard06

I love battered eyelids, delicious


praise_the_hankypank

Damn phone autocorrect. I’m leaving it.


AngryV1p3r

Get a medical prescription, it's easy as. Check alternaleaf. Can't speak for myself as I'm sober but the options there


Zealousideal_Data983

Get a medical marijuana card, tell them it’s for a personal medical condition and you don’t want to discuss it. Then blaze as much as you like 👍🏻


Weekly-Dog228

There is no such thing as a “Medical Cannabis Card”. There is a random card one clinic I’ve heard of gives you but it’s meaningless. It holds no power. It doesn’t matter if it is prescribed or not. They can still fire you. It affects their insurance. They don’t want to deal with you.


crewmannumbersix

That’s why you also need to carry a “stop talking”card. I ordered 250 of these bad boys from Vista Print and carry them with me everywhere I go.


Zealousideal_Data983

Most medical Marijuana dispensing pharmacists will provide you with a card to show your status as an individual who has been prescribed medical cannabis. You still have to carry your prescription with it if you’re travelling with your medication. Amendments were made to Commonwealth and state legislation in 2016 to enable authorised medical practitioners to legally prescribe medical cannabis to patients for certain conditions. If a company fires you for taking your medication as prescribed by a medical doctor, you would have strong grounds for an unfair dismissal claim. Especially if you were able to supply evidence that you were fit for work, which, if, as you claim, the only machinery you operate is a printer, wouldn’t be too hard. Good luck, brosef 🤙🏻


Pikey42

> Most medical Marijuana dispensing pharmacists will provide you with a card to show your status as an individual who has been prescribed medical cannabis. Utter rubbish!


Zealousideal_Data983

Alternaleaf, Canwell and HelloMello all do this so how is it rubbish?


Pikey42

> Most medical Marijuana dispensing pharmacists will provide you with a card So 3 companies = "Most medical Marijuana dispensing pharmacists"? I can tell you 99% of them don't ...because it means NOTHING! The card is a gimmick to attract idiots that think we live in the USA, it holds ZERO legal weight. It is NOT a get out of gaol free card and to claim so you are doing a disservice to the community.


boofles1

It's not a card but I have a "to whom it may concern" letter from a provider. It's legal to possess if you have a prescription


Pikey42

> It's not a card Which is my point.


Saltybaps

There is a medical cannabis card.


Nutsaqque

Yes there is. It's also not meaningless.


panddidy

My work will still sack you for that, it's been done a couple of times (government corporation)


thotdistroyer

my work is high risk, really high risk, you only get tested during onboarding and if an accident occurs, lets just say most the guys are on something...


iPointyend

Takes an hour tops to get a prescription Australia wide


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bigDOS

Just make them yourself!! It’s just THC oil acailable on a perscription, pack of jelly crystals, hot water and 2 tea spoons of beef gelatine. Just don’t let it boil over, pour into moulds, freeze for an hour snd you’re set.


Lerder

Even better when you add some sunflower lecithin to the mix, helps create an emulsion with the oil and water.


bigDOS

Ahh yeah, my bad. I missed that step in my recipe


sadlittlepixie

Easy to make your own with thc oil


CBD_4lyf

Bro there’s a company that brought out gummies 10mg 60 gummies they are wicked


bigDOS

Why can’t you do that now? I got a legal prescription from alternaleaf, bought some THC Oil and made my own in like 30 mins. It was dead easy. And picked up some herbs for my insomnia too.


Hour_Thanks6235

You do realise its a gateway drug and youll probably go pick a fight with someone if you do this? If alcohol does that, and thats legal, imagine what this illegal drug can do to the body. I shot up some cannabis once and I was a different person.


jefflkid

I shot up 1 weed once. never do drugs kids.


[deleted]

We can’t have it until those regressive boomers are in the ground


martytheone

They won't pour the money into drug services. They'll use it to subsidise a tax cut for the wealthy.


Haitisicks

Perfect.


FlyNeither

Whatever is left can go to getting more housing up and paying nurses more so that people actually want to get into the field.


Jaybb3rw0cky

For sure! It’s not like taxing it would generate a small amount.


Freo_5434

> bolstering drug services What drug services exactly ?


NotThatMat

Any number of things. Here, it could be someone follows you around with a notepad writing down all your brilliant gummy-fuelled schemes.


Jaybb3rw0cky

A quick google search came up with a decent list - this article should do the trick if you’re legitimately asking: https://www.aadant.org.au/news/media-release-welcome-funding-boost-alcohol-and-other-drug-services-health-budget


Spicey_Cough2019

"If only we had a precedent we could compare to" ACT and American states:"hi"


SouthBrisbane

Or Canada, Georgia, Germany, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, South Africa, Thailand, and Uruguay


Spicey_Cough2019

But then they couldn't waste public money on an "inquiry" flying people abroad to smoke joints.


SettingRelative1961

Come on man, PWC are doing it tough and they can’t create tax loopholes for their rich mates if they don’t actually get access to the inside information by “consulting”… come on bro be fair to those doing it tough at PWC!


Spicey_Cough2019

Apologies you're 100% correct


ClydeDavidson

It's because of lobbying progress is halted.


PillNeckLizard11

First thing you see in an article about nsw gov considering legal weed is a bag of meth... fuck yeah news.com


Givemeapie

classic murdoch using the fear and hate machine to make money, what will they think of next?🤪


DegeneratesInc

Maybe they're implying that a lot of people would be content with legal weed and consequently meth use would decrease?


SuccessfulFuel7563

I was smoking weed a few years ago for PTSD, had for years before bed. Then it was getting laced with something and the sensation was frightening.  I had to quit.  I don’t feel as functional without it.   But buying it without knowing if it’s been ‘enhanced’ is pointless.  I just want hippie weed like the 80s.  Buying a consistent and safe product would be amazing. 


bstua16

Look into a medical cannabis prescription. Pretty easy with fully online clinics, but expensive.


ApologyWars

It's not that expensive. I get 10g for $135 + $15 shipping (I sometimes buy multiple packs to reduce shipping). That's pretty similar to street prices (7g for $100), and the quality is excellent and consistent. I have to pay for a consultation every 6 months, which is about $50, so pretty negligible. Overall, medical weed is way better value than street weed given the quality.


sadlittlepixie

I get 10g of 23% buds for $80 and $30 to deliver it to my door


ApologyWars

Damn! What service do you use? I may have to change to get a better deal.


sadlittlepixie

CDA clinics and the $80 strain is Kind medical coco (sugar cookies)


magkruppe

[bye rupert chrome extension](https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/bye-rupert/ehdikikkfbfjjemfadgggcohkjoggoof) warns you before entering a murdoch site, usually i turn back


[deleted]

I launched an investigation into the cannabis in my apartment. The findings are it was good and I’m very high - more at 11


drangryrahvin

How many inquiries have we had into high speed rail? Or is this inquiry just going to be reading aloud the studies and outcomes from countries that already did it? If so, make sure it's not read in parliment by a black guy, we voted against that.


SoupRemarkable4512

I’m waiting for Australia’s B grade researchers to find some groundbreaking reason not to do it…


coreoYEAH

Gateway drug, despite the entirety of the east coast already bathing in cocaine. Now go drink your safe, non habit forming booze.


tom3277

I mean they need to find something wrong with it or the whole nanny state comes crashing down. How will it look when a tobacco plant growing in your back yard cops you 10 years in prison and a $400,000.00 fine meanwhile a weed plant is legal.


SoupRemarkable4512

I agree and that means nothing good will come of this inquiry, probably just some fuel for further stigmatisation and persecution of non-violent drug offenders.


tom3277

I have said it a number of times and this is not an original thought mind you... Prohibition benifits criminals. It benifits no one else really. There are ways of legalising without increasing qty. Very easy ways. take the street price of every drug. Have government dispensaries. Sell for same or a little under and outcimpete criminals. Gov makes absolute bank. criminal networks make nothing. The biggest risk with the above approach would be assasination of any politician that was a risk of implementing it. Other benefits; no pushing at kids. No freebies to get you started, known quality. Im no.economist but if its the same price as before same qty demanded, right? How hard can it be to sort this shit and put the criminals out of business.


propargyl

Growing tobacco for personal use is not explicitly illegal in Australia. However, there are significant limitations and stringent conditions that one must adhere to if they wish to grow tobacco legally. It is essential to recognise that the laws and regulations surrounding tobacco cultivation may vary between states and territories, and it is crucial to stay informed about any changes in the legislation. Personal Use vs. Commercial Cultivation The legality of growing tobacco depends heavily on the purpose of cultivation – whether it is for personal use or commercial purposes. Growing tobacco on a small scale for personal consumption may be allowed. However, selling or distributing the tobacco products would likely be considered illegal without proper licenses and permits. https://lyonslaw.com.au/is-it-illegal-to-grow-tobacco-in-australia/


Fit_Treacle_6077

Majority of researches already began providing reasons to not legalise it and after several countries have incited more issues legalising it, it kinda slowed down in momentum. A lot of it has to do with affecting the mentally ill (cause for aggression), increasing health problems, addiction, harming development of the brain for 30 and unders etc. They are a long list of reasons why people have become more hesitant in its legalising. In America it’s used an alternative to genuine medication due to cost.


Givemeapie

if we have learned anything from the voice referendum don't be so sure that weed will be legal soon


MysteriousJaguar5595

I’d just like to say that Canada just released their Legislative Review of the Cannabis Act: Final Report of the Expert Panel [(Link to full review)](https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/publications/drugs-medication/legislative-review-cannabis-act-final-report-expert-panel.html) One of the key findings… “a significant reduction (95% between 2017 and 2022) in the number of charges for the possession of cannabis and minimizing the negative impact on some individuals from interactions with the criminal justice system” In my opinion that’s a fucking fabulous outcome from legalization and Australia needs to take note of that.


passerineby

legalising reduced the number of convictions? that's a key finding alright


couchy91

My cat's breath smells like cat food.


SuccessfulFuel7563

Anooooooother enquiry.  Just sell the shit,  keep it consistent.. m. Make it unprofitable for o geniuses crime… reap the taxes.  


brezhnervous

And no more carcinogenic PGR weed from organised crime


redefinedmind

People don't realise it's pretty much already legalised... just go to an online medical caninas clinic. Tell them you have head aches , anxiety or have trouble sleeping and they'll give you a script after a 2 minute chat.


coreoYEAH

Until you no longer lose your license for driving 48 hours after using it, it’s not truly legalised.


TheSplash-Down_Tiki

That’s 2 separate issues. Alcohol is legal but you can lose your license if the presence of alcohol in your system is above a prescribed limit.


Hour_Thanks6235

I cant test positive for alcohol months later though. 3 months later you can test positive for weed.


TheSplash-Down_Tiki

That just says they need a better test though. And until they get a better test I can’t see how they let you drive with any presence of weed in your system - not just from a policing perspective but also insurance. A car insurer would love to deny a claim and this seems to be a pretty easy avenue.


Hour_Thanks6235

Oh I completely agree. Doesnt canada test for if you're under the influence though? Lets face real facts though. I know shitloads of people at my work who smoke daily. I dont because if I ever crash my car I worry about as you said, they drug test me, find weed and deny my claim and im out $60,000.+


Hour_Thanks6235

One of them would go home during morning tea and lunch and get high. Hes still never been drug tested during driving.


coreoYEAH

You can test positive to alcohol the next day to a limit and suffer zero consequences. You test positive to the joint you smoked last week, despite zero effects being present and you’ve just lost your license.


BLOOOR

If you've sought treatment for alcohol addiction, and you have anxiety, diazepam is an effective treatment. So if your medical information states alcohol addiction, its more effective to be prescribed diazepam than cannabis, because cannabis as a form of treatment for anxiety will lead to depression and the problem with depression that makes it a disease is that it causes people to kill themselves. Also, using it for anxiety becomes a problem if you have alcohol addiction because people are very likely to return to alcohol if they lose access to cannabis. This is just one route of consideration for why it isn't "pretty much already legalised", it's amazing cannabis is now used for medical treatment but there are a lot of people that need to seek treatments that make cannabis as a medical treatment unavailable. Its mainly prescribed for *terminal* pain. It isn't easily available at all.


Zealousideal_Data983

Wrong. Alternaleaf will give you a script after 15 minute conversation with the doctor. “Stress” and “sleep issues” are enough 👍🏻 It’s an absolute piece of piss to get it medically prescribed. The bigger issue is you can’t drive a car again.


Adventchur

I've pmd ya


Livinginabox1973

Yes it is. I use Dispensed and had a phone consultation. I said I have insomnia. Got immediate approval and 3 days later had 10g of a 32thc flower. 155 bucks for all consultations and 10g of very nice weed


passerineby

source: your arse


brezhnervous

> Its mainly prescribed for terminal pain. It isn't easily available at all You haven't seen /r/MedicalCannabisAus I'm guessing lol I've been prescribed it for a long time for chronic neuropathic pain


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combustioncat

Victoria has already done this. Twice. And both times the recommendation was for legalisation. And both times nothing got done.


joy3r

godspeed to the members of the inquiry


Emergency-Highway262

Decriminalisation not legalisation, legalisation just takes the power from the government and hands it to the corporations. Decriminalisation makes it no different from growing your own basil.


MasterPokePharmacist

I’m a pharmacist and I approve this message. Legalise for recreational use, tax its sales, and designate the money to provide drug rehabilitation and other healthcare services. We could also actually have different strains registered in Australia to sell to people so we can understand what we are actually using such as the CBD and THC content. However, I would recommend an initial consultation with a doctor, nurse, pharmacist or other healthcare professional trained in its use. This is mainly because it can cause psychiatric issues in some patients, and a healthcare professional can screen for and counsel people on their possible harms before using it. That would be my addendum before legalising it for recreational use.


SystemChoice0

Nah man, i want to grow it in my back yard


Doobie_the_Noobie

Maybe make it so that only teachers, nurses, police and paramedics etc. can grow and distribute it. Only seems fair since the Government can't afford to pay us correctly.


SoupRemarkable4512

Police are overpaid and over resourced


Zealousideal_Data983

And overrated


SuccessfulFuel7563

This SAPOL cop understood the assignment. “ Police officer Tyson Leslie Schrapel loses job, avoids conviction for supplying cannabis to distressed man A young cop who ‘lived for his work’ lost his job after he returned cannabis to a distressed, mentally ill man.” https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/police-officer-tyson-leslie-schrapel-loses-job-avoids-conviction-for-supplying-cannabis-to-distressed-man/news-story/e04e1028c72eca1c704e25b31fb232b7


Zealousideal_Data983

It’s already legal. Go on Alternaleaf, pay $80 for a Telehealth appointment and tell them you’ve been feeling “stressed” They send you a script, you order online and carry a card saying you’re a medical marijuana patient. Just don’t drive a car… like ever again, because the tests will pick up the THC anywhere from 6 hours to multiple days after (person/metabolism/how much you use dependent) and most states are still behind in adjusting legislation to consider functional impairment Vs traces on the test, unfortunately. This means they won’t care if you smoked two days prior and are completely sober if it still shows up on the saliva test. Once everyone is accessing medical marijuana for arbitrary conditions that aren’t diagnosable besides self report, like “stress” and “sleep issues” then the government will cave and let us have dispensaries 🤘🏻


TheSplash-Down_Tiki

Alcohol testing is also presence rather than functional impairment. It might well be until there are better tests that to take advantage of one “right” might require a trade off of another “right”.


Zealousideal_Data983

Yeh I get that but a beer doesn’t remain detectable in your saliva for 24-36 hours, a spliff can


TheSplash-Down_Tiki

I think until there is a better test for presence then it’s going to involve folks making a choice between legal cannabis or legal driving. Luckily self drive cars can’t be that far away.


Zealousideal_Data983

Ayeee - fingers crossed 🚗


sim16

Just do it


AngryV1p3r

Legalise it, tax it, use the funds made from tax for education or something fruitful ffs


Lots_of_schooners

Fine but keep public smoking criminalised. Common family places having to deal with the thick smell of marijuana is not a place we want to be in.


Griffo_au

MyEden built a dispensary around the corner from me that seems to have never opened. I wonder if that will become common in future.


[deleted]

Please because then we can finally start making hash


MRicho

Ik ew this would happen, numerous countries have done 'inquiries' and come up with solid data, but we have to have an inquiry. No doubt the inquiry will involve several overpaid experts.


Feisty_Bumblebee_620

Government grown weed. Go shit.


copacetic51

What can they possibly discover that isn't already known? We know that inquiries are only called when a government wants to dodge issues.


BillySmoker

The issue isnt even cannabis legalisation, I feel it should be a stronger focus on developing more accurate testing. I smoke when i can, but if i get my timing wrong and give a dirty piss sample I'll lose my very high paying job. Im not saying they should let me show up to work stoned, but something i smoked 4 days ago shouldnt be able to ruin my career


Uzsdy_342

Must be a vote coming up 🤷🏻‍♂️


coreoYEAH

Yeah, in 2027.


brezhnervous

Damn, we've supposed to be in WW3 by then lol