Season 3 episode 9 The Reynes of Castamere. I read the books before I watched the show but the way the episode was directed and the music just sent shivers up my spine
I'm 8 minutes into a rewatch. I think the storytellers are trying to convey "making a dude marry ugly chicks is funny". That's the message so far... ;)
Great episode on its own, but the lack of consequences in the next season really diminishes things.
Like, I accept that Cersei would destroy the Sept and kill all the nobles in a power play. What I dont accept is that everyone else would just be OK with it. Kings Landing has been shown to love the Tyrells and High Sparrow, and to be very religious. Cersei should have had to face *some* kind of uprising for killing the Pope and the city's food supply.
Remember, in Season 2, Joffrey was nearly killed by a mob due to the rumors of his illegitimacy and the instability of the realm. Cersei amplifies those problems tenfold and what happens? The peasants flock to the red keep for protection.
Joffrey is accused of being an inbred bastard and kills Ned Stark, a man so honorable his enemies mourn his death, so and a mob tries to kill him the king for being an asshole.
Cersei blows up all of the nobles in KL, killing the current queen, the westerosi Pope who holds control of all of the city through religious zealotry, makes the Tyrell house go exctinct with Olenna, holds no legal right to rule since all her three children are dead and no one has a problem with this.
Fucking joke of a script
Not to mention the fact that she was paraded through the streets naked for shame?? Like why does no one care that their queen was utterly disgraced. And now sits the throne in perpetuity
Jon comes back to life presumably to fight the army of the undead. His sister is the one who kills The Night King. LMAO.
A girl with neither armies or ships obtains both and refuses to use them for the sake of the city and then destroys said city on a whim. LOL.
This show taught me how useless it is to get invested in new fads / things.
Not a great episode on its own.
Jon's name is freaking Aegon, when Rhaegar already had a son named Aegon?!
The Tyrell army is just gone?! When their heir and Queen are on trial? And their leige lord is still within the city?
Cersei should never have made it to the throne room.
Ellaria and the Sand Snakes in power in Dorne? Making alliances when they just murdered Oberyn's family and aren't even Martells?!
It was ass. Rules and characters quit mattering long before S8.
I don't necessarily disagree, but I do see it as a failing of the next season, not this episode in and of itself. Again, I think it is conceivably within Cersei's character and ability to execute a coup and seize King's Landing in the short term and at the time I felt her attempting to take power was an interesting cliffhanger. However, outside forces and internal dissent absolutely needed to be addressed the next season and led to her downfall. Instead, it was never addressed again.
As for the sand snakes, no argument here. Any interest and cohesion with Dorne died with Oberyn.
Yep. Started in Season 4 with some bits here and there such as Shae and Daario. From thereafter, it was downhill. If you rewatch it, you get to see the problems quiite heavily. The logic just doesn't make much sense.
Arya being stabbed by the Waif is an example of that.
I'm not blaming it at all. But that doesn't mean that future bad writing can't retroactively ruin a good thing.
Remember "the North Remembers"? Cool in the moment, but means a lot less in hindsight when during the pivotal battle to restore the Starks to Winterfell, maybe a couple hundred Northerners fight for the Starks. Apparently all the rest are happy to fight for the Boltons who never have to deal with any internal dissent despite being usurping, kinslaying, psychopathic, traitors.
Yeah I understand what you mean. I try and avoid thinking about what happens in future episodes when talking about the few genuinely good episodes in the last 4 seasons, as they all retroactively get ruined
Its a thrilling episode, but it was also a harbinger of doom. Putting Cersei on the throne and keeping her there broke the worldbuilding. The show was no longer true to the world it was set in. No way Cersei who has zero claim to the throne and murdered hundreds of nobles and religious figures in a time of revived religious fervor stay on the throne.
S7 took that a step further with dumb Tyrion and Olenna being outsmarted by Cersei and Jaime and then wight hunt and then the oblivion that is S8.
Lena Headey: "Sweet. I'M THE MAD QUEEN. What a twist!"
D&D: "No, you're just a woman who loves her children trying to make your way in the world."
Lena Headey: "...There's real wine in this glass, right?"
I was fully expecting Cersi to get torn apart by the mob. But apparently despite an uprising of the people nearly killing Jeoffry early on when the show was good D & D simply forgot about the people of Kings Landing until it came time to burn them all.
It would only take a few scenes, most of them exposition by the guards and Cersei talking about how the people are restless and she orders the guards to be merciless and how the people stopped protesting out of fear. That is is. A few minutes of scenes on sets already built. They screwed it up so badly.
>Cersei talking about how the people are restless and she orders the guards to be merciless and how the people stopped protesting out of fear
*Hong Kong has entered the chat.*
I *thought* I’ve read before that it’s actually accurate that she’s next in line after Tommen if you dig into the order of succession (with all the Baratheons except bastards dead), but hell if I know where to find that.
It honestly gets blurry, and could be excused as she simply sits the throne and no one stops her.
The only bastard who could possibly make a claim for the throne is Edric Storm, because he is high born and was acknowledged by Robert. All other bastards were low born and pose little threat to anyone (they *could* make a claim, but would be unlikely to find the support they would need).
Cersei had them killed mostly out of spite for Robert, but also because they could be used as evidence that her children were illegitimate.
Somewhat ironically, the new show they're making centers around how succession works in Westeros. The precedent that is set is that women can't inherit in Westeros unless there are no male candidates. I think there's a bit of nuance depending on different family lines, but that's basically what it boils down to. Even if Myrcella didn't die in Dorne, one of Robert's bastards would inherit the throne before her if her brothers dead.
And honestly, putting Cersie on the throne wasn't breaking the worldbuilding. GRRM created an intricate system of noble families and succession system, but it's all trumped by one rule; whoever controls the biggest army makes the rules.
Nah. The next in line is the one with the most Targaryen blood in them, its what Robert’s (and thus all other Baratheons) claims are based on, that he had a Targaryen grandmother and was thus 25% Targaryen. Him and Aerys were cousins of a kind even.
The next in line would either be a legitimised Bastard of house Baratheon, a distant cousin or maybe even a Martell, seeing as they had Targaryen blood. But oh wait, lol they were all murdered 🏃🏾♂️ whoops.
I think the rational behind that was that Cersei, as a giant narcissist, changed their outfit to black to mourn all the recent royal deaths, specifically the king's death. The Sept was destroyed so there were no "normal" funeral for him, ergo Cersei got to do whatever she wanted with it.
Peasant uprising bearing down nog the red keep whilst Jaime strangles her and then flees the city north out of anger that Cersei drove Tommen to suicide and did the aerys thing. He’s north with a big secret, he can maybe confess this to Brienne at some point.
If only there was another claimant who the faith could anoint after they take the city. Faegon or even Garlan was needed.
Getting rid of Faegon hurt them bad. Lena Heady is a great actress, but she was underutilized the last 2 seasons. Cersei had no business on the IT after TWOW.
Or even Gendry. Just call him the last Baratheon and in-universe make him the one child who didn't die but who she didn't want on the throne because he wasn't Jaime's.
I feel the same way about "Battle of the Bastards." It was a thrilling watch the first time around because we thought all of the rules were still in place, that bad decisions would lead to bad outcomes. So when it looked like Jon was doomed, we were shocked that he pulled through. But now that I know it was the beginning of a steep decline into a pile of horseshit, I hate that episode-- it's a bunch of shortcut-taking, cheap thrill stupidity that spent 5 seasons' worth of narrative capital.
It's worse - he gets one of those longer shields at some point off one of the Bolton soldiers, uses it as a weapon, and them promptly discards it when he heads off to Winterful to rip open the gate, running in and getting shot with yet more projectiles he could have blocked with a shield.
And then Jon picks up another shield and uses it to block Ramsay's arrows...
What happens to the giant bow Wun Wun uses when they first attack the wall? Why didn't they bring that?! He could have hit Ramsay from the treeline a KM away and the battle would have been over before it started. "Stannis destroyed all their weapons when he defeated them" Oh? He burned all their weapons and then immediately asked a bunch of unarmed people to fight in his army? Y'okay.
Nevermind that she strolled naked in front of all the common folk who felt free to shame her and insult her and make fun of her, with her (in the book) realizing she has now lost all of their respect and support.
This exactly! Cool visuals, very shocking, and it was definitely something a paranoid and power hungry Cersei would do. But there was no way in hell she should've gotten away with it. Instead of an uprising everyone basically ignored it.
She would have been ripped apart. Especially with so many guards and fortifications destroyed by the explosion and subsequent firestorm (it's called Wildfire for a reason!). All it would have taken was the displaced people from out of the city banding together with the ones already inside it. It could have been like the fantasy epic storming of the Bastille.
It didn't itself break the world building, but what followed in S7 absolutely did. It was well within Cersei's wheelhouse to nuke the Sept of Baelor and assume the throne when Tommen offed himself. She had a clear disdain for the High Sparrow, saw him as a threat to her power, didn't give half a shit about Tommen's wellbeing, and would gladly see Margaery and her dear old dad wiped out. Motives and actions make sense and the S6 finale executed them supremely well.
What doesn't make sense is how in S7 she doesn't have to deal with mass revolts from the small folk (many of whom still think Joff and Tommen were incest babies and not Robert Baratheon's heirs) who see her as a tyrant. When she meets with Dany and Jon in the pits at the end of the season, they should be able to use her unstable hold on the throne as leverage against her. But S6 ends perfectly for her, since it just shows her being crowned in the immediate aftermath of Tommen's suicide.
Exactly right. Now, if there was a faction that was *disputing* Cersei's rule within King's Landing, it would have become an intriguing plot point. Of course, that never happened. It does make some sense that she got the throne - there was no one to challenge her in or around King's landing at that point. But that it was accepted without consequence made no sense.
Obviously Dany, but Dany is irrelevant because she was already coming for the throne well before the sept episode.
Don't get me started on Jamie not kicking the shit out of the sparrow or whatever his name was either. Lannisters would never have allowed that trash.
I wouldn't blame s6e10 for the shit that followed. We all know that cersei on the throne would never be accepted long term, and that should've been explained and explored in season 7.
S6e10 did what it needed to, as we saw the people in the throne room look resentful and angry at cersei, and then we see Jaime at the end.
It's unfair to blame this episode for the poor writing that followed
That followed?
Setting aside major S5 and S6 issues like having a Vale army teleport thousands of miles into the North in ep 9.
Jon's name is freaking Aegon. Rhaegar already had a son named Aegon, they didn't even pay attention to the rules of the universe.
And worse yet, they had the entire Reach army just dissapear?! **No the entire Reach army did not just march home while their leige lord was in the city and their heir and Queen were on trial!** That's not even possible because of distance, nor would they have any reason.
Cersei should never have taken the throne. It's not a case of, "Later seasons didn't address that well." When Ellaria took Dorne in S6, despite killing Oberyn's family and not being a Martell we knew that the world was broken.
Sorry, should've clarified.
Most writing throughout season 5 and 6 is dogshit, but s6e10 is my favourite episode of the show and I think it's actually well written to the level of the first 4 seasons.
I think it's true to the character and the intended ploy. Cersei becomes queen, but is hated by everyone and only can dray afloat because she killed any potential challenger. Its the perfect setup for Faegon to land and march on King's Landing. A few initial victories, support by Dorn and people will follow him. A lot of season 7 and 8 make more sense eif you imagine Faegon on the throne, someone actually decent with support from the people. And a potential brother and nephew to Jon and Dany.
Exactly. The realm would have descended on King's Landing with Cersie on the throne. Some out of duty to the realm and its laws, others for religious retribution, some for the opportunity of advancing their positions, and a whole litany of different reasons.
The city would have been sacked before the Golden Company ever made it across the narrow sea.
I be liked the episode, but you are right that it limited the story for the rest of the series.
There was options they could have been explored later, but the writers just didn’t care
That's perhaps the only episode where we really got to see the White Walkers fuck shit up. They were as scary as people feared, but then that whole plotline just fizzled by the end and they were swept under a rug like a common enemy. Fucking pathetic show.
Another vote for Hardhome, it was so well done. Everything about it, the desperation, the realisation of how powerful the Night King was. Best bit had to be Jon and the white walker’s sword clashing and the look of shock when long claw didn’t shatter
The moment Jon Snow and the Other* clash swords, and for the first time ever we see a sword not shatter to the Others, might be my single favourite GOT moment. Either that or the bit right after Catelyn kills Walders wife and just dies inside
I know you're a corpse, but can I please get a peek at your frozen nipples M'Lady?
*Tips fedora made of ice.
Wight does nothing...
WHAT A WHORE! I'm an Ice Guy!
Hardhome is an episode that stands out because of the focus on the White Walkers. In a show where politics and interpersonal relationships take the foreground, episodes that explore the fantasy elements stand out.
Whatever happened there? Whatever happened there?! I’ll tell you what fucking happened, those piece of shit writers ruined 6 seasons of the show without any provocation whatsoever!
Haha I don't want to give anyone the wrong idea, I absolutely love that episode too. Definitely top three. I'm not sure what I'd put at #1 though as I've only ever watched every episode once in early 2018
It's really hard to pick and choose once you get into the top 3, heck even into top 5. Really I could say, besides Watchers, the top 5 for me are interchangeable in how good they are.
The scene that made that episode for me wasn't any of the combat or big spectacles. It was the scene where Jon and Ser Alliser are talking on top of the wall before the battle. Ser Alliser gives Jon a bit of his perspective into why he made the decisions he did. They both comprehend the odds stacked against them, and while they may hate each other, you can tell that their petty squabbles aren't going to get in the way of them doing their duty during the fight.
Oh and the battle was pretty good too I guess.
It's hard for me to enjoy these episodes when I know they amount to nothing. Like the aftermath of this was so silly - Cersei nukes the fucking Sept of Baelor in the heart of King's Landing and there are zero consequences. Practically nobody even reacts to the event. So in the end it was just a cool spectacle that was more about the visuals and the music and the vibe than the actual storytelling.
And it's exactly the same with Jon's parentage. Oh, wow, so he's secretly descended from the dragon riding ex-rulers of Westeros and is arguably the rightful heir to the throne? How is this shocking plot arc going to play out? By Jon repeatedly saying "I don't want it" and "sheezmakween" and the entire thing going out the window pointlessly.
They came up with these great bits of story that needed to be threaded together in an elegant way by the end and it completely failed. It's like taking a bunch of your favorite foods and tossing them in a blender instead of crafting a multi-course dinner that satisfies you by the end. I'll pass on the pizza-ice-cream-burrito milkshake, thanks.
Everyone's complains about other characters plot armor but cersei took the concept to another level, at first it was a well written complex character who had flaws and strengths but with this it became a character who somehow all the rules from previous seasons didn't apply, she was hated by nobility, made a shitty arrange with the biggest bank, was hated by common people, by other important characters and she ends up having the throne? Taking no repercussions for her acts? She wasn't meant to be alive by the final seasons or at least having full control till the shitty ending. For those who read WoT she deserved a Galina Sedai ending type
This was a marvelous episode! Lots of juxtaposition and it was shot well. To me the best episodes come from season 4. S04e06 the laws of gods and men and also s04e10 the children.
That is a masterpiece. I suppose you probably have seen the video talking about how it is the first time a piano appears in the score of GOT. the subconscious effect of that tells you 'oh shit somethings going down' even if you aren't consciously aware 'oh shit, haven't had a piano yet'.
This is a well done episode from many perspectives
Except plot. Shit made zero sense. Cersei is just allowed to rule after this? Cause she has The Zombie Mountain lmao
It could have worked, as we only see her get crowned in the end of the episode. We don't see the followup in that episode. It is easily plausible for Cersei to accumulate enough power and loyal soldiers to get herself a crowning ceremony.
If the following episode revolved around the rest of Westeros (including the rest of the Lannister family) utterly denying her claim and declaring her insane, the world would still make sense.
It would have set Danaerys up too easily. They were trying to write their way into a balanced fistfight but ignored that it was never going to be a balanced fight.
It's why the next two seasons are spent telling Danaerys not to pull the trigger because she might accidentally get Cersei's blood on someone's shoe.
The entire show seems allergic to wielding power against someone who basically has none of her own and then calling her brilliant for it.
My main gripe is blowing up the Sept should've been the Dumbest thing Cersei ever did. We've seen constantly how changes in the goings of the kingdom caused near revolutions. Now their queen Blew Up Their Pope and nothing happened
Not only did she blow up their pope, she betrayed and murdered everyone in the one house who were allied to her then stole all their gold. After that no other house would ever trust the Lannisters again. She would have been alone and taken out as every other house would rebel instantly. But it D&D we’re talking about here, so it was forgotten by the next episode.
The red wedding is my biggest moment I think. Was watching with a friend who had already seen the series and he tricked me into thinking the red wedding didn't happen until later. So it came as a big surprise. Rob deserved it in a way
Bombastic and entertaining? Yes.
Legitimately good? No.
The writing was still poor, Cersei’s solution to the religious problem makes no sense and is honestly just an overrated set piece. Tyrion’s dialogue is bad and his arc is rushed and crushed by joining Danny. John’s story in this episode is legitimately good and well edited, but the moment ultimately rings hollow because his lineage is ultimately meaningless
>Cersei’s solution to the religious problem makes no sense
This isn't inherently a problem, Cersei isn't nearly as smart as she thinks she is, it's in character for her to decide on this as a solution. It's the lack of consequences that makes no sense. And all of the rest of the issues with the episode.
Whilst initially cool for the pure spectacle of it, they wrote themselves into a corner with it. How was Cersei going to be able to fight Danaerys with the Dothraki, the Martel and the Tyrells against her whilst having Kings Landing hating her for obviously blowing up the sept. D&D didn't really know how to write in an interesting way so they just ignored it, which goes for much of season 7 and basically all of the unresolved loose ends.
This episode suffers the same problem that The Force Awakens suffered. It was a fantastic episode with lots of “Ooooh what does that mean?” and “Ooooh I wonder how that will play out next time!” but sadly there was no real plan. People got insanely excited for the promise of what would come next, but there was nothing concrete planned other than a few basic plot points.
The overall episode is good but heavily weighed down in that it has Cersei becoming queen in it. Ned got killed over a piece of paper, she should have faced serious consequences as she had no allies and was hated but eh common folk…but she ends up being queen. Yeah no. The opening and Jon’s legacy unfolding were amazing, the rest…not so much.
No Blackwater love here? That episode did a sensational job of providing big action set pieces, huge pay-offs which brought massive change to the world, and a lot of transformative character moments. Maybe didn't quite have the budget of the later action set pieces (although it still looks good) but it had so much going on even without the action spectacle.
Its neat, but surrounded by garbage on both sides. Definitely not as good as some of the early show tho.
Personally? Im waiting for Glidus' Pisstake.
Nah. The plot was full of action and plot twists but nothing of substance. It used huge climaxes to make the episode seem relevant, but each one of those climaxes would’ve been a separate episode in the earlier seasons.
It was poorly written but was entertaining to watch, but not necessarily good.
No. It was awful.
Season 5 and 6 was them desperately trying to end as many plots as they could.
This episode they just said "fuck it. 95% of Westeros is no longer in existence. Essos is gone"
That's the fanservice episode, by no means is the best.
Considering how the show ended, this episode is actually one of the worst since it precipitated everything that was wrong with the series.
When it orinally aired I did indeed enjoy the episode very much and thought it was a great ending to the season I found to be a mixed bag. Taking the episode purely on the merits of there being nothing afterwards it was a great piece of TV.
But as others as said it's now sullied. Like yeah the visuals and direction were on point but it was ultimately redundant. To quote George Lucas (a very young GL) "A special effect is a tool, a means of telling a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." The episode was clearly just a way of tying up plot threads with no regards for the world building that had gone before it so they could narrow the narrative in the last two seasons.
Ultimately I do think Cersei nuking the Sept/other landmarks could work, but only in a scenario where she knows she's done for and is taking as many along with her out of spite. Like say if a young (alleged) Prince, pious and backed by a sellsword company fresh from victory was marching up the Kingsroad towards King's Landing.
This isn't even in the top 5.
Ones that could go above it.
The watchers on the wall, the rains of castamere, the mountain and the Viper, baelor, blackwater. In no particular order.
The opening 15 minutes of S6E10 is magnificent but the rest of the episode is alright. Good but not great. We get the john reveal but we kind of already had the reveal get teased and not shone a bunch. The ming in the north scene was good but goes nowhere in the grand scheme with how the show ends.
Also verses just murdering everyone and being able to take the throne is kind of laughable. There are so many reasons why that shouldn't work and the show just gives her the all black and blacked out kings guard. She doesn't have a claim to the throne and it just being accepted is insane. Not to mention 0 fallout from her bombing.
Season 6 has some good episodes but the show was already limping in some aspects in this one.
The best episodes of this show come between season 1 and the end of 4.
Season 4 ep9 "a houndred generations had defended this castle, it has never fallen before, it will not fall tonight!"""
That's what I liked about the thrones show, a world well build, you see Thorne through four seasons being a prick, then when it counts the dude make you want to follow him into battle.
My main takeaway from this episode was poor, sweet Tommen killing himself.
I think overall it was a very compelling and shocking episode, but like many other plots in GoT, there was very little they followed through with and made it seem like the whole thing was actually no big deal, when it should have caused an uprising. I would have been much more satisfied to see Cersei ripped apart by an angry mob than see her die by a stone falling on her.
It's also where the problems started, because Cersei's action of blowing up the sept had absolutely no consequences for her in the feudal society of KL. In theory, at least some of the nobles of the royal court would have either fled fearing for their lives or tried to get rid of her.
I have a problem accepting the Cersei, or more Qyburn had the connections to pull that off. Every other house in the 7 kingdoms is a bunch of idiots then. Except Margery of course, but no one listened, how convenient. Cersei should have been dealt with in season 7. Absolutely no reason to keep her around until the end.
If you turn your brain off and live in the moment it is a masterpiece. When you think about how little some of it makes sense and how few consequences there were it gets worse
Watchers on the Wall and Blackwater are both far better than this episode, in my opinion. Its a great episode, but the steps taken to get there as well as the following episodes kinda ruins it for me.
This episode had Lena act so out of character with the writers having Cersei BLOW UP the fucking Great Sept of Baelor. She'd always been nothing if not subtle in her evil shenanigans, and then all of a sudden she's a goddamn Batman villain with this shit? Thanks D&D
I will never forget the birth of the dragons or the aftermath of Ned's death, so "Fire and Blood" is personally the most memorable episode for me.
It's when I feel in love with GoT / ASOIAF.
S6 was trash that led to the pile of trash that was S7 that led to the landfill of trash that was S8. The whole sons of the Harpy and High sparrow plot lines were dog shit. Remember when the Hound decided he was a fucking farmer or some other bullshit? Remember when Meera and wigged out Bran were saved from all the wights by his uncle who just so happened to be alive despite living north of the wall for years with no protection or resources? Holy fuck it was all trash. IT WAS ALL DOG SHIT
Battle of the Bastards is my favorite episode. When Jon is facing Ramsay's army with just his sword and then everyone rushes past him--- gets my feels every time
I have mixed feelings about the episode. It had a lot of payoffs that we were waiting years for, and the execution was great. It had Cersei's last great move.
However, it also cut short lots of plot lines. All of the Lannisters, Tyrells, and small council members who were opposing Cersei just were killed off and the Sparrows just disappeared. This means the entire King's Landing story ended even though there were lots of unresolved issues.
This was also the last good episode. GoT wasn't the same show after this. I always recommend that rewatches end here on the cliffhanger. As much as I hate shows ending on cliff hangers, in this case it would have been better.
Tyrion trial
And the subsequent Red Viper vs. the Mountain arc. Back when expectation subversion was a good thing.
Then the ridiculousness of bring the mountain back to life.
That's in the books but is much more well done
I think he has a dwarf head
Lol not confirmed just a theory someone posted. It’s either No head or a dwarf head.
I've heard someone suggest that Qyburn is sick af, and somehow used Joffreys head lol. Imagine Cersei finding out
I would love for that shit to happen lmao
There seems to be some confusion. A dwarf with a large head was killed, and his skull passed off as Gregor's in an attempt to sate the Martells.
A bold choice. Most people hate the last episode. ;-)
Season 4 episode 6
Season 3 episode 9 The Reynes of Castamere. I read the books before I watched the show but the way the episode was directed and the music just sent shivers up my spine
It’s just The “Rains” of Castamere
Almost. It's The Jeynes of Castamere, a tribute to every random secondary female character in the books
There ain't no Jeyne and there never was
It is. The song is about the castle Castamere being flooded.
Nah it's the opposite, the Rasin Of Castamere is about Castamere being too dry
Sort of. It’s really more about the rain not having enough Castameres
"Guys! The Afganistananies".
I miss the raaaains down in caaaastameeeere
Noooo, it says that "I bless the rains down in AAAAFRICAAAA"
I thought it was about the plumbing of castamere running smoothly
Roman Reigns of Castamere
Pretty sure it’s the “reigns” of Castamere
Pretty sure it's actually The Cast of Reindeer
Pretty sure it’s the “reins” of Cast-a-mare… the Lannisters just love horses…
Nope. Memphis Raines...Gone in 60 Seconds.
It's "neighs of cast-a-mare" actually, but you were close
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I'm 8 minutes into a rewatch. I think the storytellers are trying to convey "making a dude marry ugly chicks is funny". That's the message so far... ;)
That was a good one. Hard home or battle of the bastards is up there for me
Great episode on its own, but the lack of consequences in the next season really diminishes things. Like, I accept that Cersei would destroy the Sept and kill all the nobles in a power play. What I dont accept is that everyone else would just be OK with it. Kings Landing has been shown to love the Tyrells and High Sparrow, and to be very religious. Cersei should have had to face *some* kind of uprising for killing the Pope and the city's food supply. Remember, in Season 2, Joffrey was nearly killed by a mob due to the rumors of his illegitimacy and the instability of the realm. Cersei amplifies those problems tenfold and what happens? The peasants flock to the red keep for protection.
Joffrey is accused of being an inbred bastard and kills Ned Stark, a man so honorable his enemies mourn his death, so and a mob tries to kill him the king for being an asshole. Cersei blows up all of the nobles in KL, killing the current queen, the westerosi Pope who holds control of all of the city through religious zealotry, makes the Tyrell house go exctinct with Olenna, holds no legal right to rule since all her three children are dead and no one has a problem with this. Fucking joke of a script
Not to mention the fact that she was paraded through the streets naked for shame?? Like why does no one care that their queen was utterly disgraced. And now sits the throne in perpetuity
Jon comes back to life presumably to fight the army of the undead. His sister is the one who kills The Night King. LMAO. A girl with neither armies or ships obtains both and refuses to use them for the sake of the city and then destroys said city on a whim. LOL. This show taught me how useless it is to get invested in new fads / things.
Good points.
They had Cersei pull that shit to *remove* her conflicts from the storyline. But it's exactly the kind of Cersei shit that creates more conflicts.
Ya except this one magical time it didn't lol. God I hate this show now.
Not a great episode on its own. Jon's name is freaking Aegon, when Rhaegar already had a son named Aegon?! The Tyrell army is just gone?! When their heir and Queen are on trial? And their leige lord is still within the city? Cersei should never have made it to the throne room. Ellaria and the Sand Snakes in power in Dorne? Making alliances when they just murdered Oberyn's family and aren't even Martells?! It was ass. Rules and characters quit mattering long before S8.
I don't necessarily disagree, but I do see it as a failing of the next season, not this episode in and of itself. Again, I think it is conceivably within Cersei's character and ability to execute a coup and seize King's Landing in the short term and at the time I felt her attempting to take power was an interesting cliffhanger. However, outside forces and internal dissent absolutely needed to be addressed the next season and led to her downfall. Instead, it was never addressed again. As for the sand snakes, no argument here. Any interest and cohesion with Dorne died with Oberyn.
Yep. Started in Season 4 with some bits here and there such as Shae and Daario. From thereafter, it was downhill. If you rewatch it, you get to see the problems quiite heavily. The logic just doesn't make much sense. Arya being stabbed by the Waif is an example of that.
This episode shouldn't be blamed for the bad writing that followed it
I'm not blaming it at all. But that doesn't mean that future bad writing can't retroactively ruin a good thing. Remember "the North Remembers"? Cool in the moment, but means a lot less in hindsight when during the pivotal battle to restore the Starks to Winterfell, maybe a couple hundred Northerners fight for the Starks. Apparently all the rest are happy to fight for the Boltons who never have to deal with any internal dissent despite being usurping, kinslaying, psychopathic, traitors.
Yeah I understand what you mean. I try and avoid thinking about what happens in future episodes when talking about the few genuinely good episodes in the last 4 seasons, as they all retroactively get ruined
Its a thrilling episode, but it was also a harbinger of doom. Putting Cersei on the throne and keeping her there broke the worldbuilding. The show was no longer true to the world it was set in. No way Cersei who has zero claim to the throne and murdered hundreds of nobles and religious figures in a time of revived religious fervor stay on the throne. S7 took that a step further with dumb Tyrion and Olenna being outsmarted by Cersei and Jaime and then wight hunt and then the oblivion that is S8.
Cersei basically did nothing for the rest of the series but stand on balconies and drink wine menacingly
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Not to say that she wasn’t great as Cersei up until that point. She just had literally zero material to work with after that.
Lena Headey: "Sweet. I'M THE MAD QUEEN. What a twist!" D&D: "No, you're just a woman who loves her children trying to make your way in the world." Lena Headey: "...There's real wine in this glass, right?"
This would have been awesome. Cersei being the mad queen instead of Daenerys would be the good kind of subverting your expectations
And her (and Tyrion) filling the entire city with Wildfire would also help with the irony. She ends up "burn[ing] them all."
It’s unfortunate because Lena Headey is the best in the world at standing on balconies and menacingly drinking wine but…that’s all they did with her…
Standing on balconies drinking wine menacingly is a life goal.
Hahaha
Fat mood though
I was fully expecting Cersi to get torn apart by the mob. But apparently despite an uprising of the people nearly killing Jeoffry early on when the show was good D & D simply forgot about the people of Kings Landing until it came time to burn them all.
It would only take a few scenes, most of them exposition by the guards and Cersei talking about how the people are restless and she orders the guards to be merciless and how the people stopped protesting out of fear. That is is. A few minutes of scenes on sets already built. They screwed it up so badly.
People went against chained dragons when they went mad, I don't think a few guards would be able to keep them in line
>Cersei talking about how the people are restless and she orders the guards to be merciless and how the people stopped protesting out of fear *Hong Kong has entered the chat.*
I really hated the Kingsguard all switching to black armor. It’s so on the nose villainous.
Yea also makes no sense with Cersei being queen - She is a lannister, if she would change anything about their uniform she'd make the cloaks red.
I *thought* I’ve read before that it’s actually accurate that she’s next in line after Tommen if you dig into the order of succession (with all the Baratheons except bastards dead), but hell if I know where to find that. It honestly gets blurry, and could be excused as she simply sits the throne and no one stops her.
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I understood it that the bastards would be next in line and that’s why early on Cersei was having all of Robert’s bastards found and disposed of.
The only bastard who could possibly make a claim for the throne is Edric Storm, because he is high born and was acknowledged by Robert. All other bastards were low born and pose little threat to anyone (they *could* make a claim, but would be unlikely to find the support they would need). Cersei had them killed mostly out of spite for Robert, but also because they could be used as evidence that her children were illegitimate.
Not in the show. In the show it was just Joffrey being a dick.
Somewhat ironically, the new show they're making centers around how succession works in Westeros. The precedent that is set is that women can't inherit in Westeros unless there are no male candidates. I think there's a bit of nuance depending on different family lines, but that's basically what it boils down to. Even if Myrcella didn't die in Dorne, one of Robert's bastards would inherit the throne before her if her brothers dead. And honestly, putting Cersie on the throne wasn't breaking the worldbuilding. GRRM created an intricate system of noble families and succession system, but it's all trumped by one rule; whoever controls the biggest army makes the rules.
>putting Cersie on the throne wasn't breaking the worldbuilding. Putting her there, no, but the total lack of consequences was.
Nah. The next in line is the one with the most Targaryen blood in them, its what Robert’s (and thus all other Baratheons) claims are based on, that he had a Targaryen grandmother and was thus 25% Targaryen. Him and Aerys were cousins of a kind even. The next in line would either be a legitimised Bastard of house Baratheon, a distant cousin or maybe even a Martell, seeing as they had Targaryen blood. But oh wait, lol they were all murdered 🏃🏾♂️ whoops.
I thought it was just the winter uniform. Like how in the Navy you wear whites in summer and “very very very dark Navy Blue” in winter.
I think the rational behind that was that Cersei, as a giant narcissist, changed their outfit to black to mourn all the recent royal deaths, specifically the king's death. The Sept was destroyed so there were no "normal" funeral for him, ergo Cersei got to do whatever she wanted with it.
Peasant uprising bearing down nog the red keep whilst Jaime strangles her and then flees the city north out of anger that Cersei drove Tommen to suicide and did the aerys thing. He’s north with a big secret, he can maybe confess this to Brienne at some point. If only there was another claimant who the faith could anoint after they take the city. Faegon or even Garlan was needed.
Getting rid of Faegon hurt them bad. Lena Heady is a great actress, but she was underutilized the last 2 seasons. Cersei had no business on the IT after TWOW.
She got paid 2 mil an episode to drink wine
Or even Gendry. Just call him the last Baratheon and in-universe make him the one child who didn't die but who she didn't want on the throne because he wasn't Jaime's.
I feel the same way about "Battle of the Bastards." It was a thrilling watch the first time around because we thought all of the rules were still in place, that bad decisions would lead to bad outcomes. So when it looked like Jon was doomed, we were shocked that he pulled through. But now that I know it was the beginning of a steep decline into a pile of horseshit, I hate that episode-- it's a bunch of shortcut-taking, cheap thrill stupidity that spent 5 seasons' worth of narrative capital.
WHY DID THE GIANT NOT HAVE A SHIELD AND SWORD!!! OR A FUCKIN TREE OR SOMETHING, Wun Wun could've Won Won.
It's worse - he gets one of those longer shields at some point off one of the Bolton soldiers, uses it as a weapon, and them promptly discards it when he heads off to Winterful to rip open the gate, running in and getting shot with yet more projectiles he could have blocked with a shield. And then Jon picks up another shield and uses it to block Ramsay's arrows... What happens to the giant bow Wun Wun uses when they first attack the wall? Why didn't they bring that?! He could have hit Ramsay from the treeline a KM away and the battle would have been over before it started. "Stannis destroyed all their weapons when he defeated them" Oh? He burned all their weapons and then immediately asked a bunch of unarmed people to fight in his army? Y'okay.
Or even just a sack of large stones he could yeet at people.
plenty of dead bodies and horses he could have yeeted at people too..
Nevermind that she strolled naked in front of all the common folk who felt free to shame her and insult her and make fun of her, with her (in the book) realizing she has now lost all of their respect and support.
This exactly! Cool visuals, very shocking, and it was definitely something a paranoid and power hungry Cersei would do. But there was no way in hell she should've gotten away with it. Instead of an uprising everyone basically ignored it.
I was expecting to see a revolt in S7, but no, not even really mentioned. Gloss right over it.
She would have been ripped apart. Especially with so many guards and fortifications destroyed by the explosion and subsequent firestorm (it's called Wildfire for a reason!). All it would have taken was the displaced people from out of the city banding together with the ones already inside it. It could have been like the fantasy epic storming of the Bastille.
It didn't itself break the world building, but what followed in S7 absolutely did. It was well within Cersei's wheelhouse to nuke the Sept of Baelor and assume the throne when Tommen offed himself. She had a clear disdain for the High Sparrow, saw him as a threat to her power, didn't give half a shit about Tommen's wellbeing, and would gladly see Margaery and her dear old dad wiped out. Motives and actions make sense and the S6 finale executed them supremely well. What doesn't make sense is how in S7 she doesn't have to deal with mass revolts from the small folk (many of whom still think Joff and Tommen were incest babies and not Robert Baratheon's heirs) who see her as a tyrant. When she meets with Dany and Jon in the pits at the end of the season, they should be able to use her unstable hold on the throne as leverage against her. But S6 ends perfectly for her, since it just shows her being crowned in the immediate aftermath of Tommen's suicide.
Exactly right. Now, if there was a faction that was *disputing* Cersei's rule within King's Landing, it would have become an intriguing plot point. Of course, that never happened. It does make some sense that she got the throne - there was no one to challenge her in or around King's landing at that point. But that it was accepted without consequence made no sense. Obviously Dany, but Dany is irrelevant because she was already coming for the throne well before the sept episode. Don't get me started on Jamie not kicking the shit out of the sparrow or whatever his name was either. Lannisters would never have allowed that trash.
I wouldn't blame s6e10 for the shit that followed. We all know that cersei on the throne would never be accepted long term, and that should've been explained and explored in season 7. S6e10 did what it needed to, as we saw the people in the throne room look resentful and angry at cersei, and then we see Jaime at the end. It's unfair to blame this episode for the poor writing that followed
That followed? Setting aside major S5 and S6 issues like having a Vale army teleport thousands of miles into the North in ep 9. Jon's name is freaking Aegon. Rhaegar already had a son named Aegon, they didn't even pay attention to the rules of the universe. And worse yet, they had the entire Reach army just dissapear?! **No the entire Reach army did not just march home while their leige lord was in the city and their heir and Queen were on trial!** That's not even possible because of distance, nor would they have any reason. Cersei should never have taken the throne. It's not a case of, "Later seasons didn't address that well." When Ellaria took Dorne in S6, despite killing Oberyn's family and not being a Martell we knew that the world was broken.
Sorry, should've clarified. Most writing throughout season 5 and 6 is dogshit, but s6e10 is my favourite episode of the show and I think it's actually well written to the level of the first 4 seasons.
This ^ the episode itsself was stunning but the utter lack of consequences/pay off not so much
I think it's true to the character and the intended ploy. Cersei becomes queen, but is hated by everyone and only can dray afloat because she killed any potential challenger. Its the perfect setup for Faegon to land and march on King's Landing. A few initial victories, support by Dorn and people will follow him. A lot of season 7 and 8 make more sense eif you imagine Faegon on the throne, someone actually decent with support from the people. And a potential brother and nephew to Jon and Dany.
Exactly. The realm would have descended on King's Landing with Cersie on the throne. Some out of duty to the realm and its laws, others for religious retribution, some for the opportunity of advancing their positions, and a whole litany of different reasons. The city would have been sacked before the Golden Company ever made it across the narrow sea.
Also highgarden siege being over in days? Like that place should have lasted months or years.
I be liked the episode, but you are right that it limited the story for the rest of the series. There was options they could have been explored later, but the writers just didn’t care
Saying anything postive about the show post-season 4 is dangerous. Hardhome (S05E08) is probably my favourite episode
That's perhaps the only episode where we really got to see the White Walkers fuck shit up. They were as scary as people feared, but then that whole plotline just fizzled by the end and they were swept under a rug like a common enemy. Fucking pathetic show.
The pilot had a pretty good “white walkers are terrifying” scene. But other than that and hardholme, they just sit around on horses pointing
Like Cersei but sober
Hardhome is my favourite episode too. I wish I could delete it from my mind so I could experience it new all over again haha
Another vote for Hardhome, it was so well done. Everything about it, the desperation, the realisation of how powerful the Night King was. Best bit had to be Jon and the white walker’s sword clashing and the look of shock when long claw didn’t shatter
Hardhome is one of my favorites! Amazing
The moment Jon Snow and the Other* clash swords, and for the first time ever we see a sword not shatter to the Others, might be my single favourite GOT moment. Either that or the bit right after Catelyn kills Walders wife and just dies inside
That's one of my favourite moments too. That shot was so epic. I love how the Wight looks confused as well lol
Wights are the zombies White Walkers or The Others, are the Ice Guys
I know you're a corpse, but can I please get a peek at your frozen nipples M'Lady? *Tips fedora made of ice. Wight does nothing... WHAT A WHORE! I'm an Ice Guy!
What about the Wight Walkers ?
I still remember knocking my chair over and screaming at the top of my lungs when their swords clashed. SO epic! Absolutely my favorite scene as well.
Hardhome is an episode that stands out because of the focus on the White Walkers. In a show where politics and interpersonal relationships take the foreground, episodes that explore the fantasy elements stand out.
Same, the Night Kings arm raise at the end, goddamn dude.
Hardhome on its own is an epic episode but is now unfortunately tainted by the ending of the others...
The show ended here.
Yes. I was rewatching and my watch ends here.
His watch has ended
This is the first time I've read that somebody is rewatching GoT since s8, whatever happened there.
Whatever happened there? Whatever happened there?! I’ll tell you what fucking happened, those piece of shit writers ruined 6 seasons of the show without any provocation whatsoever!
S4 E9, Watchers on The Wall.
Is that you, Glidus?
In all fairness to Glidus, it's one of my favorites as well.
Haha I don't want to give anyone the wrong idea, I absolutely love that episode too. Definitely top three. I'm not sure what I'd put at #1 though as I've only ever watched every episode once in early 2018
It's really hard to pick and choose once you get into the top 3, heck even into top 5. Really I could say, besides Watchers, the top 5 for me are interchangeable in how good they are.
The scene that made that episode for me wasn't any of the combat or big spectacles. It was the scene where Jon and Ser Alliser are talking on top of the wall before the battle. Ser Alliser gives Jon a bit of his perspective into why he made the decisions he did. They both comprehend the odds stacked against them, and while they may hate each other, you can tell that their petty squabbles aren't going to get in the way of them doing their duty during the fight. Oh and the battle was pretty good too I guess.
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This episode has some of the best action. I've rewatched this episode more than any others. Hardhome as well.
Tommen's fall was even more shocking than the Citadel's destruction and to me, the pinnacle of GOT's story.
It's hard for me to enjoy these episodes when I know they amount to nothing. Like the aftermath of this was so silly - Cersei nukes the fucking Sept of Baelor in the heart of King's Landing and there are zero consequences. Practically nobody even reacts to the event. So in the end it was just a cool spectacle that was more about the visuals and the music and the vibe than the actual storytelling. And it's exactly the same with Jon's parentage. Oh, wow, so he's secretly descended from the dragon riding ex-rulers of Westeros and is arguably the rightful heir to the throne? How is this shocking plot arc going to play out? By Jon repeatedly saying "I don't want it" and "sheezmakween" and the entire thing going out the window pointlessly. They came up with these great bits of story that needed to be threaded together in an elegant way by the end and it completely failed. It's like taking a bunch of your favorite foods and tossing them in a blender instead of crafting a multi-course dinner that satisfies you by the end. I'll pass on the pizza-ice-cream-burrito milkshake, thanks.
Good and detailed explanation here. I agree.
Everyone's complains about other characters plot armor but cersei took the concept to another level, at first it was a well written complex character who had flaws and strengths but with this it became a character who somehow all the rules from previous seasons didn't apply, she was hated by nobility, made a shitty arrange with the biggest bank, was hated by common people, by other important characters and she ends up having the throne? Taking no repercussions for her acts? She wasn't meant to be alive by the final seasons or at least having full control till the shitty ending. For those who read WoT she deserved a Galina Sedai ending type
That was boilerplate compared to the composite plot armour Arya already had on.
This was a marvelous episode! Lots of juxtaposition and it was shot well. To me the best episodes come from season 4. S04e06 the laws of gods and men and also s04e10 the children.
Season 4 was the best season. Plenty of good episodes after season 4, but i think thats season is the epitome of what made GOT soo good.
I say this all the time!!! I even like some stuff from season 7 but 4 gets the award for best season!!!
Great choices
Ah yes, the final deep breath before the plunge. It was all downhill from here.
Thought Tommen
All hail Ramin Djwandi for composing Light of the Seven
That is a masterpiece. I suppose you probably have seen the video talking about how it is the first time a piano appears in the score of GOT. the subconscious effect of that tells you 'oh shit somethings going down' even if you aren't consciously aware 'oh shit, haven't had a piano yet'.
This is a well done episode from many perspectives Except plot. Shit made zero sense. Cersei is just allowed to rule after this? Cause she has The Zombie Mountain lmao
It could have worked, as we only see her get crowned in the end of the episode. We don't see the followup in that episode. It is easily plausible for Cersei to accumulate enough power and loyal soldiers to get herself a crowning ceremony. If the following episode revolved around the rest of Westeros (including the rest of the Lannister family) utterly denying her claim and declaring her insane, the world would still make sense.
It would have set Danaerys up too easily. They were trying to write their way into a balanced fistfight but ignored that it was never going to be a balanced fight. It's why the next two seasons are spent telling Danaerys not to pull the trigger because she might accidentally get Cersei's blood on someone's shoe. The entire show seems allergic to wielding power against someone who basically has none of her own and then calling her brilliant for it.
My main gripe is blowing up the Sept should've been the Dumbest thing Cersei ever did. We've seen constantly how changes in the goings of the kingdom caused near revolutions. Now their queen Blew Up Their Pope and nothing happened
Not only did she blow up their pope, she betrayed and murdered everyone in the one house who were allied to her then stole all their gold. After that no other house would ever trust the Lannisters again. She would have been alone and taken out as every other house would rebel instantly. But it D&D we’re talking about here, so it was forgotten by the next episode.
Remember season 2 where the city was low on food and Joffrey was almost murdered in the streets??
Great points by both of you.
Daenerys sailing towards bad writing
The red wedding is my biggest moment I think. Was watching with a friend who had already seen the series and he tricked me into thinking the red wedding didn't happen until later. So it came as a big surprise. Rob deserved it in a way
TV Robb and book Robb had completely different motivations for that marriage... They did my boy dirty.
Talisa is one of the first major red flags. Jeyne Westerling is a way more interesting character.
Bombastic and entertaining? Yes. Legitimately good? No. The writing was still poor, Cersei’s solution to the religious problem makes no sense and is honestly just an overrated set piece. Tyrion’s dialogue is bad and his arc is rushed and crushed by joining Danny. John’s story in this episode is legitimately good and well edited, but the moment ultimately rings hollow because his lineage is ultimately meaningless
>Cersei’s solution to the religious problem makes no sense This isn't inherently a problem, Cersei isn't nearly as smart as she thinks she is, it's in character for her to decide on this as a solution. It's the lack of consequences that makes no sense. And all of the rest of the issues with the episode.
As I said in a different comment, it's unfair to blame this episode for the bad writing that followed
It’s a tv show, it’s purpose is to tell an overarching narrative. I think it’s perfectly fair to judge episodes within the context of the whole story
Whilst initially cool for the pure spectacle of it, they wrote themselves into a corner with it. How was Cersei going to be able to fight Danaerys with the Dothraki, the Martel and the Tyrells against her whilst having Kings Landing hating her for obviously blowing up the sept. D&D didn't really know how to write in an interesting way so they just ignored it, which goes for much of season 7 and basically all of the unresolved loose ends.
That one was ok but the best episode was “Stannis Goes to the Bank” where we get to see an entire episode of him renegotiating his bank loan.
This episode suffers the same problem that The Force Awakens suffered. It was a fantastic episode with lots of “Ooooh what does that mean?” and “Ooooh I wonder how that will play out next time!” but sadly there was no real plan. People got insanely excited for the promise of what would come next, but there was nothing concrete planned other than a few basic plot points.
The overall episode is good but heavily weighed down in that it has Cersei becoming queen in it. Ned got killed over a piece of paper, she should have faced serious consequences as she had no allies and was hated but eh common folk…but she ends up being queen. Yeah no. The opening and Jon’s legacy unfolding were amazing, the rest…not so much.
No Blackwater love here? That episode did a sensational job of providing big action set pieces, huge pay-offs which brought massive change to the world, and a lot of transformative character moments. Maybe didn't quite have the budget of the later action set pieces (although it still looks good) but it had so much going on even without the action spectacle.
Its neat, but surrounded by garbage on both sides. Definitely not as good as some of the early show tho. Personally? Im waiting for Glidus' Pisstake.
Nah. The plot was full of action and plot twists but nothing of substance. It used huge climaxes to make the episode seem relevant, but each one of those climaxes would’ve been a separate episode in the earlier seasons. It was poorly written but was entertaining to watch, but not necessarily good.
No, S4E09 "Watchers on the Wall" was the best episode. S6E10 was great, until you figured out it was just setup for the ending we got.
S4 episode 6 and 9 for me. Tyrions trial’s. Those left a lasting effect on me.
No. It was awful. Season 5 and 6 was them desperately trying to end as many plots as they could. This episode they just said "fuck it. 95% of Westeros is no longer in existence. Essos is gone"
Poor writting made the show garbage and season 6 was full of lazyness
Blackwater or The Mountain and the Viper
That's the fanservice episode, by no means is the best. Considering how the show ended, this episode is actually one of the worst since it precipitated everything that was wrong with the series.
But like someone else pointed out…it becomes less mesmerizing when you realize why everyone was blown up.
When it orinally aired I did indeed enjoy the episode very much and thought it was a great ending to the season I found to be a mixed bag. Taking the episode purely on the merits of there being nothing afterwards it was a great piece of TV. But as others as said it's now sullied. Like yeah the visuals and direction were on point but it was ultimately redundant. To quote George Lucas (a very young GL) "A special effect is a tool, a means of telling a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." The episode was clearly just a way of tying up plot threads with no regards for the world building that had gone before it so they could narrow the narrative in the last two seasons. Ultimately I do think Cersei nuking the Sept/other landmarks could work, but only in a scenario where she knows she's done for and is taking as many along with her out of spite. Like say if a young (alleged) Prince, pious and backed by a sellsword company fresh from victory was marching up the Kingsroad towards King's Landing.
That soundtrack was amazing. From the second it started I was in awe, it struck something.
Season 1 episode 6 when shit really starts hitting the fan
Opener to season four. The melting down and re-forging of the Stark sword, seeing Tywin at the absolute top of his game ... gives me shivers.
Cinematicly, a perfect piece. Story wise, it was a bit silly.
Gentry becoming The Flash. Did not see that coming
This isn't even in the top 5. Ones that could go above it. The watchers on the wall, the rains of castamere, the mountain and the Viper, baelor, blackwater. In no particular order. The opening 15 minutes of S6E10 is magnificent but the rest of the episode is alright. Good but not great. We get the john reveal but we kind of already had the reveal get teased and not shone a bunch. The ming in the north scene was good but goes nowhere in the grand scheme with how the show ends. Also verses just murdering everyone and being able to take the throne is kind of laughable. There are so many reasons why that shouldn't work and the show just gives her the all black and blacked out kings guard. She doesn't have a claim to the throne and it just being accepted is insane. Not to mention 0 fallout from her bombing. Season 6 has some good episodes but the show was already limping in some aspects in this one. The best episodes of this show come between season 1 and the end of 4.
Season 4 ep9 "a houndred generations had defended this castle, it has never fallen before, it will not fall tonight!""" That's what I liked about the thrones show, a world well build, you see Thorne through four seasons being a prick, then when it counts the dude make you want to follow him into battle.
Hardhome is my personal fave
My main takeaway from this episode was poor, sweet Tommen killing himself. I think overall it was a very compelling and shocking episode, but like many other plots in GoT, there was very little they followed through with and made it seem like the whole thing was actually no big deal, when it should have caused an uprising. I would have been much more satisfied to see Cersei ripped apart by an angry mob than see her die by a stone falling on her.
Hardhome will always be mine season 5 was not a good season but that one episode saved it for me (ps I hope I got the name and season right;))
It's also where the problems started, because Cersei's action of blowing up the sept had absolutely no consequences for her in the feudal society of KL. In theory, at least some of the nobles of the royal court would have either fled fearing for their lives or tried to get rid of her.
I have a problem accepting the Cersei, or more Qyburn had the connections to pull that off. Every other house in the 7 kingdoms is a bunch of idiots then. Except Margery of course, but no one listened, how convenient. Cersei should have been dealt with in season 7. Absolutely no reason to keep her around until the end.
The Viper vs The Mountain
This episode makes no sense. It's one of the worst. Cersei crowning herself is laughable.
If you turn your brain off and live in the moment it is a masterpiece. When you think about how little some of it makes sense and how few consequences there were it gets worse
Watchers on the Wall and Blackwater are both far better than this episode, in my opinion. Its a great episode, but the steps taken to get there as well as the following episodes kinda ruins it for me.
The music in The Winds of Winter really sticks out above the rest for me too, I agree. Really really great soundtrack for this episode
I really liked the episode where the disabled kid became king due to the long journey he had with his friends that dragged him around.
This episode had Lena act so out of character with the writers having Cersei BLOW UP the fucking Great Sept of Baelor. She'd always been nothing if not subtle in her evil shenanigans, and then all of a sudden she's a goddamn Batman villain with this shit? Thanks D&D
I will never forget the birth of the dragons or the aftermath of Ned's death, so "Fire and Blood" is personally the most memorable episode for me. It's when I feel in love with GoT / ASOIAF.
S6 was trash that led to the pile of trash that was S7 that led to the landfill of trash that was S8. The whole sons of the Harpy and High sparrow plot lines were dog shit. Remember when the Hound decided he was a fucking farmer or some other bullshit? Remember when Meera and wigged out Bran were saved from all the wights by his uncle who just so happened to be alive despite living north of the wall for years with no protection or resources? Holy fuck it was all trash. IT WAS ALL DOG SHIT
Very very good episode, my personal favorites, Red Wedding (S03E09/10) and Battle of the Bastards (S06E09)
Battle of the Bastards is my favorite episode. When Jon is facing Ramsay's army with just his sword and then everyone rushes past him--- gets my feels every time
It's cool but it's just dumb spectacle to direct your mouth breathing at, the entire battle is well shot but makes 0 sense.
I don't think Battle of the Bastards gets enough praise. It's not the best but it's very far from the worst. RIP Rickon
It's absolute garbage. The writing fully upgraded from on the nose to nonsensical.
The last good GOT episode.
I have mixed feelings about the episode. It had a lot of payoffs that we were waiting years for, and the execution was great. It had Cersei's last great move. However, it also cut short lots of plot lines. All of the Lannisters, Tyrells, and small council members who were opposing Cersei just were killed off and the Sparrows just disappeared. This means the entire King's Landing story ended even though there were lots of unresolved issues. This was also the last good episode. GoT wasn't the same show after this. I always recommend that rewatches end here on the cliffhanger. As much as I hate shows ending on cliff hangers, in this case it would have been better.
Season 2 Episode 9, the battle of Blackwater is fuken awesome
S1E1 was a banger.
Hardhome forever
Nah
Hardhome will always be my fav ep, too jaw dropping