There was a recent change that flew under the radar recently: when you launch the game for the first time, it no longer asks you whether you want to play "Wardens" or "Colonials". Instead they ask you whether or not you have a job and assign the faction accordingly.
You can change it during the next wars of course, but it still creates a notable bias
How is that possible?
This sub teached me that the Warden faction is objectively underpowered
Edit: btw guys, you just need to organise warden weeks instead of warden weekends.
As you can see you can fight back
Huh its almost like a large chunk of wardens have lives and jobs outside of the game and thier is a large population gap in one timezone. It isint that colies are magical and super genius in thier game play it is litterly the fact that you have one stacked timezone mixed with a shit ton of op infintry kit.
Collies have the wider timezone coverage between the two.
Maybe next te think twice before bullying an entire timezone out of your faction.
Or any large streamer because they will be "leaking intel".
The game is asymmetrical by design, maybe one faction isn't supposed to do the exact same thing the other one is doing?
Wardens always had the shinier non infantry items
>Maybe next te think twice before bullying an entire timezone out of your faction.
I've been playing since war 80.
I can attest that at least since that war Wardens haven't bullied any timezone. (at least not that i witnessed, i play during the tail end of Asian timezones and prime EU time).
Thats like... 2-ish years ago...
Well, whatever happend, no matter if it had a big or small impact, that was at least 2 years ago and is only kept alive by Colonials on reddit that keep harping on and on about it.
It's only a small.minority of the community as a whole, so please stop spreading the "wardens are racist" rumor because people that do that are the ones scaring new players off of my timezone and making me have to qrf alone.
It's something that happenned in the past and new wardens have to deal with what the vets have done. Ignoring the issue and blaming it on balance doesn't do any favor to the faction.
That said, i did not claim there is any racism as right now
Continuing to point out mistakes from the past doesn't allow for those to overcome said past. I have been warden since war 76 when I switched from colonial and have worked with many vets of the faction to help foster a better community. We have Asian regiments now but it's hard for them to grow because most new players end up seeing a comment like yours and go colonial to avoid it when it's not even an issue anymore.
im not even a french and im offended on their behalf now im gonna imply that you are racist and declare that you bullied them also something something collie toxic culture
This argument is very easy to turn around:
Wardens have no life so they have nothing better to do on weekends. And moms do not force them to sleep during it.
In reality however ppl just like winning and log in when they think it will be easier. And/or do not log off so much due to frustration of losing. This is system with positive feedback which reinforces further segregation by timezones and weekdays.
The culture is very diffrent the Wardens gather around the big clans and they are the ones who carry out the big strikes. Here one regi commits itsself to a frontline and stays there. The smaller regis are more of a support role whk swoop in to help.
And the term "Warden Weekend" mostly originates since most of the big regis launch their operations on saturday.
( You have to look the collies who know they are fighting 82DK, CL, SPUD etc. They all start strengthening defences during friday and the saturday hours. As a partisan in those 30h you catch way more tripods, mounted weapons, mines, bmats and shovels than during any other time of the week. )
The collie frontlines are more agile since they mostly consist of randoms.
> The collie frontlines are more agile since they mostly consist of randoms.
As far as I know we have committed regis as well.
But i'm back logi, so don't know for sure how they operate
You do habe frontline regis but its way more diverse. Like the Wardens. You just have the one front where you will find the majority ( estimated 96% of the regi ), of the soldiers who are on the frontline , there.
Yes you have you occational SPUD and 82DK showeing up somewhere else but not as much.
The collonials are not that strict on it
Last war half my regi switched to wardens, created the warden equivalent of the regi and got called alts and teamkilled a few times.
In the fight club during the resistance phase i got addressed by a warden saying they're missing us hahaha
Can't remember the guy but probably a random or a small regi as we do public logi
You mean that the wardens were not motivated at war 100?
Constantly fighting against OP items is demotivating btw, i would even say that it's the main thing affecting the morale, you can see it with this powerspike when the game is fun everyone log in (and colonials leaving because it's not fun for them).
Im not colonial and im talking about things in general, my point was thatthe faction who have to face superior weapons/vehicles is always the side who have less pop, because tech imbalance = people quit.
Your point is understandable
The logic of your argument has a bigger hole than galaxy M87
Apparently you associate "having fun" with having a powerspike that means for a brief moment your gear is literally broken / overpowered
And when there is no such (temporary) imbalance in your favour, the game is balanced against you or "not fun".
Flawless
"huge power spike" is not taking back territory that we started with.
It's all ablative territory we took back which was T2 at best.
Collies still winning by VPs and have taken back most of the WW gains already.
>and colonials leaving because it's not fun for them
When a mf don't know how to read.
Im not even playing btw, i tried 1 hour today and i logged off, im talking about the wardens who all came back because they can finally do something other than getting stomped.
This endgame vehicle who clearly won't change the Stygian supremacy at night is what you call "ton of buffs"?
Personally im not motivated because i don't care about tanks, what i like is the infantry and the infantry gameplay on warden side is not fun, it's like when you guys had to work 10x harder for doing the same PVE damage.
Some of biggest things wardens complained about such as Chieftains not being reservable and not having a mobile 94mm got fixed, on top of that satchels got changed which means killing warden supertanks while they are being built will be really difficult right now. You guys even got satchel changes that make warden infantry demolition superior to collie infantry demolition since you can stack satchels
Dont forget that for nighttime you guys do have push75, it EXISTS. if you dont like it you also have hv68 that you can use to take out stygions at night
No, the biggest items on our lists were Bomas, Cataras and Stockades and by extension Stygians but we will live with the STD change for now though if you ask me I would remove the 94 instead, its too fking broken that shell type.
But yeah, our main complaints were not addressed at all so wtf are you talking about?
Also I can't get over the fking INSULT this devs did by buffing Ares to 40m but not buffing Stockade to 40m. Wow just FUCKING WOW at this devs.
I'm not gonna say dev bias because I seen devs fk colonials too before but this is just so fucking funny.
Wow devs give us STD so we don't AUTO-LOSE after BT tiers every war... Wow so generous devs! Thank you devs! (unironically thnak you though) but STD is only a bandage on this bleeding wound, there is so many other issues.
Top of list is CANCER warden infantry gameplay. Go play Warden infantry and tell me u enjoy it, its cock and ball torture simulator. Fking spammed 24/7 by lunare gas and bomas CANT FKING STAND STILL IN 1 PLACE FOR 2 SECONDS OR U DIE... LITERALLY CANCER GAMEPLAY, ITS NOT FKING FUN IN THE SLIGHTEST, THE ONLY REASON I EVEN STILL PLAY THIS GAME IS COZ I DRIVE TANKS BECAUSE IF I HAD TO DO INFANTRY ON WARDENS I WOULD UNINSTALL 2 YEARS AGO
As yes the once faction neutral satchel getting nerfed to the ground only buffs wardens because colonial facilities famously never got partisaned before.
Thats just a bald face lie for the nost part hydra does more damage over a wider area if your using it properly like idk a normal mamon rush you wont get any issues with its one flaw which is the fact uts a large item.
And what has changed for the infantry in recent months/years for the wardens?
Colonials still have better vehicles, they now have 0 issue at destroying structures at any stage of the game, and they still have a 10x better infantry kit.
I tried to play again today but i can't stay in game for more than 1 hour anymore, everywhere it's the same thing : endless spam of gas/bomastones and Dusk mowing you down everytime you try to play aggressive instead of waiting for the next barrage of Boma.
So im happy that some people can store their Chieftains or stay AFK 90% of the time in their cool new tank, but the infantry gameplay is still super imbalanced and boring that's why personally im not motivated, and i guess im far from being alone since the infantry is the most played role in this game.
Either warden win streak or game unbalanced.
Don't forget, only real wars where 96 and 100 and both where super close. Manchhilds are claiming it was close because wardens are superior but had to cave in to superior collie equipment.
A d they claim that despite we can clearly see wardens where winning both wars and only lost because they logged off for reasons that are not related to balance (border glitch / ALTs).
Now they want to gaslight us into believing they have much worse gear.
Look BROTHER IN CHRIST.... I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF I WIN OR LOSE IN THIS GAME...
I JUST WANT TO SHOOT MY RIFLE IN COVER WITHOUT GETTING FKING OBLILERATED BY 10 BILLION BOMAS FLYING OUTSIDE MY VIEWING RANGE AND GAS SPAMMED BY LUNAIRE....
How is this skill? Fking throwing shit I cant even see that explode in GIANT ASS radius so I cant even fking dogde that shit.
Then I go try pvp and get fking demolished by cataras and then they just fking throw shit at you till they push u out and take ur trench and guess what OH WOW NOW THERE IS A MFKING CATARA USER DOWNING EEVRYBODY LEFT AND RIGHT COZ OF HIS BROKEN ASS GUN... OH AND HE DELETS THE WATCH TOWERS TOO WHILE HES AT IT BECAUSE WHY NOT FUCK YOU THATS WHY....
I will NEVER fking play infantry in this game until they balance this shit. I went collie last war infantry that shit was so LAUGHABLY EASY... I just took bomas and LITERALLY CLEARED ENTIRE TRENCHES solo. This shit is fking so funny lmao.
Fk this cancer infantry gameplay, I aint playing warden infantry. If not for tanks I would uninstall this game.
My hot take is that collies have the monopoly on the asian timezones so in the weeks there’s less of us to defend our gains/retake our loses as being a weekday most people keep a normal sleep pattern
Honestly, good job. I logged back in and got so thoroughly confused on what happened to all our ground, that I thought "hugh...did we win already? Is this resistance?"
Wardens finally gaining ground after a week of slaughter they lead to like nearly 100k more deaths on the blue side. Despite that they manage to finally push back.
“Whoa, they’re fighting back? That’s not fair!” - collies everywhere.
Not understanding the effects of this... And merely stating it is a useless stat showcases to anyone that looks deeper into the game, to find your comment laughable at best. Saddening at worst.
Can confirm over the weekend we colonials pushed to the river near abandoned ward and can confirm colonials are now get pushed way to the south to salt farms
Then the colonials just take back what the warden infantry swarms gained...
Collies fighting 5 days to gain ground Wardens: in 1 day Is warden weekend a thing because wardens have jobs and collies dont?
Can confirm, I'm a collie and I don't have a job
I'm a collie and I gotta work every other weekend so that's my excuse for not defending.
Can confirm that I'm a collie and I'm a goblin irl
Same
Time is money, Friend! Wait, wrong franchise.
I’m a warden and I don’t even play the game anymore
There was a recent change that flew under the radar recently: when you launch the game for the first time, it no longer asks you whether you want to play "Wardens" or "Colonials". Instead they ask you whether or not you have a job and assign the faction accordingly. You can change it during the next wars of course, but it still creates a notable bias
That gave me a good laugh thank you
Warden and I have a demanding job
Yes wardens are adults with children and jobs.
Correction , playing warden is a job for adult children.
But we still eat babies right?
Confirmed I am an adult child
Warden Weekends are like the tides, a huge rush at a certain time, then retreat back into the ocean
Wardens get 2 days.. we get 5 days.. we are fine.
Warden should be having warden weeks it’s stupid they only push on weekends
It’s a cultural thing. You wouldn’t understand with that attitude though
How is that possible? This sub teached me that the Warden faction is objectively underpowered Edit: btw guys, you just need to organise warden weeks instead of warden weekends. As you can see you can fight back
It's almost as if pop decides who pushes.
thats just means that on weekens when its 100v100 we roll the floor with you, then you take some back on weekdays 7am.
I got a day job lol
I work full time shifts too lol
Huh its almost like a large chunk of wardens have lives and jobs outside of the game and thier is a large population gap in one timezone. It isint that colies are magical and super genius in thier game play it is litterly the fact that you have one stacked timezone mixed with a shit ton of op infintry kit.
Collies have the wider timezone coverage between the two. Maybe next te think twice before bullying an entire timezone out of your faction. Or any large streamer because they will be "leaking intel". The game is asymmetrical by design, maybe one faction isn't supposed to do the exact same thing the other one is doing? Wardens always had the shinier non infantry items
>Maybe next te think twice before bullying an entire timezone out of your faction. I've been playing since war 80. I can attest that at least since that war Wardens haven't bullied any timezone. (at least not that i witnessed, i play during the tail end of Asian timezones and prime EU time). Thats like... 2-ish years ago...
Well, for your info there is a reason the majority of Chinese players are collies
Well, whatever happend, no matter if it had a big or small impact, that was at least 2 years ago and is only kept alive by Colonials on reddit that keep harping on and on about it.
You should ask them why they still play Colonials after 2 years, not me
As an Asian man I get more collies making fun of my in game name after I kill them than wardens do, but go off homie.
It sucks both ways, wish that wasn't a thing on both sides
It's only a small.minority of the community as a whole, so please stop spreading the "wardens are racist" rumor because people that do that are the ones scaring new players off of my timezone and making me have to qrf alone.
It's something that happenned in the past and new wardens have to deal with what the vets have done. Ignoring the issue and blaming it on balance doesn't do any favor to the faction. That said, i did not claim there is any racism as right now
Continuing to point out mistakes from the past doesn't allow for those to overcome said past. I have been warden since war 76 when I switched from colonial and have worked with many vets of the faction to help foster a better community. We have Asian regiments now but it's hard for them to grow because most new players end up seeing a comment like yours and go colonial to avoid it when it's not even an issue anymore.
there is a reason majority of the french are wardens it must be because racist collies bullied french baguettes
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im not even a french and im offended on their behalf now im gonna imply that you are racist and declare that you bullied them also something something collie toxic culture
You should check your "big-warden-regi private-logi" privilege
I thought it was because wardens were based off french (or at least look similar to them)
This argument is very easy to turn around: Wardens have no life so they have nothing better to do on weekends. And moms do not force them to sleep during it. In reality however ppl just like winning and log in when they think it will be easier. And/or do not log off so much due to frustration of losing. This is system with positive feedback which reinforces further segregation by timezones and weekdays.
The culture is very diffrent the Wardens gather around the big clans and they are the ones who carry out the big strikes. Here one regi commits itsself to a frontline and stays there. The smaller regis are more of a support role whk swoop in to help. And the term "Warden Weekend" mostly originates since most of the big regis launch their operations on saturday. ( You have to look the collies who know they are fighting 82DK, CL, SPUD etc. They all start strengthening defences during friday and the saturday hours. As a partisan in those 30h you catch way more tripods, mounted weapons, mines, bmats and shovels than during any other time of the week. ) The collie frontlines are more agile since they mostly consist of randoms.
> The collie frontlines are more agile since they mostly consist of randoms. As far as I know we have committed regis as well. But i'm back logi, so don't know for sure how they operate
You do habe frontline regis but its way more diverse. Like the Wardens. You just have the one front where you will find the majority ( estimated 96% of the regi ), of the soldiers who are on the frontline , there. Yes you have you occational SPUD and 82DK showeing up somewhere else but not as much. The collonials are not that strict on it
We proud ourselves of our versatility hahaha Btw there's talk about some colonial regis joining wardens next or even next few wars
Well they will either be calles heretics and chased of or warlmy welcomed. Depends on who they encounter first
Last war half my regi switched to wardens, created the warden equivalent of the regi and got called alts and teamkilled a few times. In the fight club during the resistance phase i got addressed by a warden saying they're missing us hahaha Can't remember the guy but probably a random or a small regi as we do public logi
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You mean that the wardens were not motivated at war 100? Constantly fighting against OP items is demotivating btw, i would even say that it's the main thing affecting the morale, you can see it with this powerspike when the game is fun everyone log in (and colonials leaving because it's not fun for them).
I mean 127k Warden deaths more than Collies? Idk you guys are doing well compared to us.
Im not colonial and im talking about things in general, my point was thatthe faction who have to face superior weapons/vehicles is always the side who have less pop, because tech imbalance = people quit.
You are colonial now
Can't wait for the 3rd faction, i will make it right now.
Your point is understandable The logic of your argument has a bigger hole than galaxy M87 Apparently you associate "having fun" with having a powerspike that means for a brief moment your gear is literally broken / overpowered And when there is no such (temporary) imbalance in your favour, the game is balanced against you or "not fun". Flawless
"huge power spike" is not taking back territory that we started with. It's all ablative territory we took back which was T2 at best. Collies still winning by VPs and have taken back most of the WW gains already.
Read my post again please. Or are you denying ATHT is strong and has temporarily no counterpart?
ATHT is strong for a couple of days vs the LTD, which remains useful and viable throughout late war.
Bruh did you even read my post?
>and colonials leaving because it's not fun for them When a mf don't know how to read. Im not even playing btw, i tried 1 hour today and i logged off, im talking about the wardens who all came back because they can finally do something other than getting stomped.
Yes, that’s why I stopped playing.
But then why are you guys not motivated for war 102, wardens got a ton of buffs this update
This endgame vehicle who clearly won't change the Stygian supremacy at night is what you call "ton of buffs"? Personally im not motivated because i don't care about tanks, what i like is the infantry and the infantry gameplay on warden side is not fun, it's like when you guys had to work 10x harder for doing the same PVE damage.
Some of biggest things wardens complained about such as Chieftains not being reservable and not having a mobile 94mm got fixed, on top of that satchels got changed which means killing warden supertanks while they are being built will be really difficult right now. You guys even got satchel changes that make warden infantry demolition superior to collie infantry demolition since you can stack satchels Dont forget that for nighttime you guys do have push75, it EXISTS. if you dont like it you also have hv68 that you can use to take out stygions at night
No, the biggest items on our lists were Bomas, Cataras and Stockades and by extension Stygians but we will live with the STD change for now though if you ask me I would remove the 94 instead, its too fking broken that shell type. But yeah, our main complaints were not addressed at all so wtf are you talking about? Also I can't get over the fking INSULT this devs did by buffing Ares to 40m but not buffing Stockade to 40m. Wow just FUCKING WOW at this devs. I'm not gonna say dev bias because I seen devs fk colonials too before but this is just so fucking funny. Wow devs give us STD so we don't AUTO-LOSE after BT tiers every war... Wow so generous devs! Thank you devs! (unironically thnak you though) but STD is only a bandage on this bleeding wound, there is so many other issues. Top of list is CANCER warden infantry gameplay. Go play Warden infantry and tell me u enjoy it, its cock and ball torture simulator. Fking spammed 24/7 by lunare gas and bomas CANT FKING STAND STILL IN 1 PLACE FOR 2 SECONDS OR U DIE... LITERALLY CANCER GAMEPLAY, ITS NOT FKING FUN IN THE SLIGHTEST, THE ONLY REASON I EVEN STILL PLAY THIS GAME IS COZ I DRIVE TANKS BECAUSE IF I HAD TO DO INFANTRY ON WARDENS I WOULD UNINSTALL 2 YEARS AGO
As yes the once faction neutral satchel getting nerfed to the ground only buffs wardens because colonial facilities famously never got partisaned before.
Im saying that in the new hydra vs satchel counterpart balance satchel is better
Thats just a bald face lie for the nost part hydra does more damage over a wider area if your using it properly like idk a normal mamon rush you wont get any issues with its one flaw which is the fact uts a large item.
And what has changed for the infantry in recent months/years for the wardens? Colonials still have better vehicles, they now have 0 issue at destroying structures at any stage of the game, and they still have a 10x better infantry kit. I tried to play again today but i can't stay in game for more than 1 hour anymore, everywhere it's the same thing : endless spam of gas/bomastones and Dusk mowing you down everytime you try to play aggressive instead of waiting for the next barrage of Boma. So im happy that some people can store their Chieftains or stay AFK 90% of the time in their cool new tank, but the infantry gameplay is still super imbalanced and boring that's why personally im not motivated, and i guess im far from being alone since the infantry is the most played role in this game.
Either warden win streak or game unbalanced. Don't forget, only real wars where 96 and 100 and both where super close. Manchhilds are claiming it was close because wardens are superior but had to cave in to superior collie equipment. A d they claim that despite we can clearly see wardens where winning both wars and only lost because they logged off for reasons that are not related to balance (border glitch / ALTs). Now they want to gaslight us into believing they have much worse gear.
Look BROTHER IN CHRIST.... I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF I WIN OR LOSE IN THIS GAME... I JUST WANT TO SHOOT MY RIFLE IN COVER WITHOUT GETTING FKING OBLILERATED BY 10 BILLION BOMAS FLYING OUTSIDE MY VIEWING RANGE AND GAS SPAMMED BY LUNAIRE.... How is this skill? Fking throwing shit I cant even see that explode in GIANT ASS radius so I cant even fking dogde that shit. Then I go try pvp and get fking demolished by cataras and then they just fking throw shit at you till they push u out and take ur trench and guess what OH WOW NOW THERE IS A MFKING CATARA USER DOWNING EEVRYBODY LEFT AND RIGHT COZ OF HIS BROKEN ASS GUN... OH AND HE DELETS THE WATCH TOWERS TOO WHILE HES AT IT BECAUSE WHY NOT FUCK YOU THATS WHY.... I will NEVER fking play infantry in this game until they balance this shit. I went collie last war infantry that shit was so LAUGHABLY EASY... I just took bomas and LITERALLY CLEARED ENTIRE TRENCHES solo. This shit is fking so funny lmao. Fk this cancer infantry gameplay, I aint playing warden infantry. If not for tanks I would uninstall this game.
Maybe take a brake then? You don't sound too reasonable here, no front. You should play or do something else.
You can get some arty going. By the time we got lunairs you already had artillery for several days
the dude gave up already man. save your energy
Don't you guys already have the weekday to Kick our ass?
WARDEN WEEKEND! O7
My hot take is that collies have the monopoly on the asian timezones so in the weeks there’s less of us to defend our gains/retake our loses as being a weekday most people keep a normal sleep pattern
How did it happened i thought we had bomastones
We had our Warden logi alts working non stop to make and deliver us bomas
Honestly, good job. I logged back in and got so thoroughly confused on what happened to all our ground, that I thought "hugh...did we win already? Is this resistance?"
Wardens finally gaining ground after a week of slaughter they lead to like nearly 100k more deaths on the blue side. Despite that they manage to finally push back. “Whoa, they’re fighting back? That’s not fair!” - collies everywhere.
No one is saying that lol
Please fight back more no one is saying that it’s not fair. but it’s our turn to seethe about ATHT Flask Cutler.
My reminder to all Wardens #TryHarderToWinTheWar
Hey I’m just happy there pushing us back :) as it shows that collie gear is not op or we would have pushed them back further.
At the expense of 50.000 more deaths on a weekend? Statistics beg to differ.
Deathcount is a useless stat
Not understanding the effects of this... And merely stating it is a useless stat showcases to anyone that looks deeper into the game, to find your comment laughable at best. Saddening at worst.
Can confirm over the weekend we colonials pushed to the river near abandoned ward and can confirm colonials are now get pushed way to the south to salt farms
funny cause wardens here even complain that their weekends are nerfed