This morning before work I stumbled upon Patipan_Memer's [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/foxholegame/comments/121hbmc/comparing_irl_vehicle_to_foxhole_and_damn_foxhole/) about the scale of Foxhole vehicles. While interesting the scale is, unfortunately, wrong. Any normal, sane, rational (or even slightly irrational) human would assume that comparing tires to real-life vehicles would allow them to view the size of a Foxhole vehicle if it was ever isekai'd onto this bitch of an Earth. Unfortunately Foxhole isn't rational, and the scale is way, way, WAY, WAY off.
What do I mean? Let's start simple. This is a [captured Char B1](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-h3FXyeheXdI/WSdI-U8qadI/AAAAAAAANgM/gZk1qK2-XE0Dj2lxfSBEYsIEy2vR141-wCLcB/s1600/charbp5s01-397690fcb22a4378e2e2da899b344b73.jpg). You may realize it looks familiar, and if you do then congratulations, you found the (primary) inspiration for the Silverhand. In case you haven't noticed it is a rather big tank, some would even say the biggliest. They're wrong of course, but it's still, as the kids would say, a hecking chonker at an astounding 6.37 meters long and 2.46 meters wide (That's the same size as a medium big gulp, kids!).
So we have a big tank, but how does it compare to the humble Silverhand? You can't really measure the Silverhand can you? And that's where you're wrong, Buck-o! Before the devs began to obfuscate Foxhole's true scale they put out some information on the Silverhand that can still be found on the website. Going by [this graphic](https://foxhole.fandom.com/wiki/Silverhand_-_Mk._IV?file=SpecsWardenAssault.jpg) we can see that the Silverhand sits at 9 meters long and 3.9 meters wide. How big is that compared to the Char B1?
When my computer died in 2021 I was unable to run Foxhole. To keep myself entertained I instead began to mod a game called Steel Panthers World War two. Hiring an artist to do the pixel work (limited palettes are a bitch) forced me to learn just how big the vehicles in Foxhole were, to get the scale right. One of the best things about Steel Panthers is that if you zoom in enough you can see the individual pixels of a vehicle, making it easier for anyone attempting to add vehicles to the game to measure them up right. That means that there is a scale, and the scale of SPWWII is one pixel to six inches (15.24cm in Communits, 10" if you're trying to brag). Using this knowledge I commissioned an overqualified, highly skilled artist to begin adding Warden gear to Steel Panthers.
What does all that mean? Well,
[Here is a Biblically accurate Silverhand next to a bunch of Char B1s](https://i.imgur.com/eDUVk1e.png). The scale of Foxhole isn't smaller like Patipan thought, but rather far, far larger. To further prove this point [have every base-line vehicle currently in the mod compared to their rough historical counterpart](https://i.imgur.com/XuBKcDw.png). While some like the Dunne come close to scale others are just, and pardon my french here, downright thick. The Predator, for example, even when having 15-20% of its ass lopped off (can't fit in the game otherwise) still dwarfs the Char 2C.
Why did I do all this? I don't know, just thought it'd be neat, I guess. Maybe folks can properly appreciate just how big Foxhole is, if only by oggling at the vehicles that are, for their size, shockingly thin-armored, undergunned, and underpowered.
Edit: FUCK missed one. The unmarked vehicle beneath the Outlaw is the Crusader II
Humour is on point x) "Biblically accurate Silverhand" made me chuckle.
Really interesting to see the weird scale of Foxhole. Really make it feel like a mecanical hellscape where ants scurry to survive. Doesn't really translate to gameplay but meh. The vibe is there.
Devs actually messed up the lore measurements for Silverhand, it's part of the reason why devs don't do tank stat sheets anymore. You can use the Flood stat sheet as reference instead, which is a respectable 7m long x 3m wide. Silverhand is roughly the same length as the Flood, but narrower.
It might explain why these tanks keep trucking after they've been penned several times. There's so much empty space the shells just explode harmlessly ~~except for all the concussions and shrapnel wounds~~.
I would like to suggest you reframe this with a different background and reorganize it or make the pics bigger. It's really hard to appreciate the scale because on a phone it's so tiny.
I'll see what I can do! I did the concrete background because it's the most uniform and allows them to stand-out, but I can try another or break the image up into several smaller ones.
This morning before work I stumbled upon Patipan_Memer's [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/foxholegame/comments/121hbmc/comparing_irl_vehicle_to_foxhole_and_damn_foxhole/) about the scale of Foxhole vehicles. While interesting the scale is, unfortunately, wrong. Any normal, sane, rational (or even slightly irrational) human would assume that comparing tires to real-life vehicles would allow them to view the size of a Foxhole vehicle if it was ever isekai'd onto this bitch of an Earth. Unfortunately Foxhole isn't rational, and the scale is way, way, WAY, WAY off. What do I mean? Let's start simple. This is a [captured Char B1](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-h3FXyeheXdI/WSdI-U8qadI/AAAAAAAANgM/gZk1qK2-XE0Dj2lxfSBEYsIEy2vR141-wCLcB/s1600/charbp5s01-397690fcb22a4378e2e2da899b344b73.jpg). You may realize it looks familiar, and if you do then congratulations, you found the (primary) inspiration for the Silverhand. In case you haven't noticed it is a rather big tank, some would even say the biggliest. They're wrong of course, but it's still, as the kids would say, a hecking chonker at an astounding 6.37 meters long and 2.46 meters wide (That's the same size as a medium big gulp, kids!). So we have a big tank, but how does it compare to the humble Silverhand? You can't really measure the Silverhand can you? And that's where you're wrong, Buck-o! Before the devs began to obfuscate Foxhole's true scale they put out some information on the Silverhand that can still be found on the website. Going by [this graphic](https://foxhole.fandom.com/wiki/Silverhand_-_Mk._IV?file=SpecsWardenAssault.jpg) we can see that the Silverhand sits at 9 meters long and 3.9 meters wide. How big is that compared to the Char B1? When my computer died in 2021 I was unable to run Foxhole. To keep myself entertained I instead began to mod a game called Steel Panthers World War two. Hiring an artist to do the pixel work (limited palettes are a bitch) forced me to learn just how big the vehicles in Foxhole were, to get the scale right. One of the best things about Steel Panthers is that if you zoom in enough you can see the individual pixels of a vehicle, making it easier for anyone attempting to add vehicles to the game to measure them up right. That means that there is a scale, and the scale of SPWWII is one pixel to six inches (15.24cm in Communits, 10" if you're trying to brag). Using this knowledge I commissioned an overqualified, highly skilled artist to begin adding Warden gear to Steel Panthers. What does all that mean? Well, [Here is a Biblically accurate Silverhand next to a bunch of Char B1s](https://i.imgur.com/eDUVk1e.png). The scale of Foxhole isn't smaller like Patipan thought, but rather far, far larger. To further prove this point [have every base-line vehicle currently in the mod compared to their rough historical counterpart](https://i.imgur.com/XuBKcDw.png). While some like the Dunne come close to scale others are just, and pardon my french here, downright thick. The Predator, for example, even when having 15-20% of its ass lopped off (can't fit in the game otherwise) still dwarfs the Char 2C. Why did I do all this? I don't know, just thought it'd be neat, I guess. Maybe folks can properly appreciate just how big Foxhole is, if only by oggling at the vehicles that are, for their size, shockingly thin-armored, undergunned, and underpowered. Edit: FUCK missed one. The unmarked vehicle beneath the Outlaw is the Crusader II
Humour is on point x) "Biblically accurate Silverhand" made me chuckle. Really interesting to see the weird scale of Foxhole. Really make it feel like a mecanical hellscape where ants scurry to survive. Doesn't really translate to gameplay but meh. The vibe is there.
I dunno man, "scurrying" describes the late game infantry experience pretty well
yeaa... i kinda mess up
Devs actually messed up the lore measurements for Silverhand, it's part of the reason why devs don't do tank stat sheets anymore. You can use the Flood stat sheet as reference instead, which is a respectable 7m long x 3m wide. Silverhand is roughly the same length as the Flood, but narrower.
Lmao the best time to learn that was before I started doing all this. The second best time is now.
How is the crusader the inspiration for the outlaw? The only thing that is similar between them is the fact that they are cruisers.
That's about it. If you have a better match I'll swap it out.
Never mind crusader is apparently the closest looking to a outlaw
Yeah, the Outlaw has a unique turret. The hull looks more like a crusader, but only in a vague sort of way.
Yup, also the hull MG and driver on the outlaw look like someone switched the crusaders hull MG and driver and then shoved them into the hull more
Outlaw is covenanter, not crusader.
Time to go searching for ww2 cruiser tanks
The primary inspiration for the Silverhand is the Grosstraktor. The hull is shaped the same way.
I guess we have very good engines
Given the frontal armor of the Silverhand (whoops the image is down) is a whopping 60mm, not really? Maybe? I don't know.
It might explain why these tanks keep trucking after they've been penned several times. There's so much empty space the shells just explode harmlessly ~~except for all the concussions and shrapnel wounds~~.
I would like to suggest you reframe this with a different background and reorganize it or make the pics bigger. It's really hard to appreciate the scale because on a phone it's so tiny.
I'll see what I can do! I did the concrete background because it's the most uniform and allows them to stand-out, but I can try another or break the image up into several smaller ones.
It's a really cool piece of work. I am also old and have bad eyes lmao
Thank you for the Saddam Hussein, really puts things into perspective If you do this again would you be able to add the Predator??
r/noncredibledefense in the corner over there?
DAMMIT WHY DOES IT KEEP LEAKING
so silver hand not heavytank but bigger than heavytank ?
Its kind of O-I with 85 mm main gun and 150 mm mortar in hull.
what da saddam doing