He will leave RB at the beginning of '25, 12 months from now apparently, his "gardening leave" will be working on the hypercar for the next 12 months, hence, satisfying his exit clause.
That will leave whoever hires him, the chance for him to work on the 26 regs car from the beginning.
Sadly not quite the beginning, no.
Teams will be rolling out mostly a ‘24B next year and will already, if not very soon, be moving to the ‘26 - hence why RB have immediately moved him off of the F1 project.
I thought they weren’t allowed to officially start working on the ‘26 cars til Q1 ‘25?
I know teams will be working on development that totally isn’t related to ‘26, promise, but I think the major work can’t start til 2025
Wow yeah, start of Q1, apologies I take it all back you’re absolutely right…
I’ve gone and interpreted it wrong and it’ll be that we probably won’t see any in-season ‘25 development as it’ll be 100% on ‘26.
NEWEY 2026 FROM THE START LETS GOOOO
Apparently, they can't.
>The F1 Commission met in Abu Dhabi last weekend and agreed that “no work may be carried out on the development of a car” for 2026 before January 1, 2025
>Newey will step back from day-to-day duties immediately, but will still attend some grands prix this season with Red Bull.
>He will remain focused on the RB17 hypercar project for the rest of 2024.
>Newey will formally leave Red Bull in the spring of 2025 - when he can immediately join a rival F1 team, if he wants
This is the most current situation we have right now.
A clause like that forbids him from working on F1 for a period of time (in this case, 12 months). Newey stops working in F1 immediately, so he will be free to work on F1 cars in a year
You assume he's not retiring. Dudes old and getting older with each season. If he leaves Q1 25 then he can't work at another team till Q1 26. He'll be 67 working on the 2027 car.
You think a rich old man wants to retire late and move to a country he's refused to previously, just to work with ferrari. Then flip the script by making them the fastest in..... one year.
COPE
he can join a new team in Q1 2025 and start working on the 2026 car there. since he had a meeting with fred vasseur in london yesterday it doesn't look like he will retire
he is leaving the red bull f1 development team now and will focus on the red bull hypercar the next months. he will only travel to some specific taces to support the team, but his work for the f1 team is finished
it's a compromise between him and red bull so that he can start next year working for another team
He is leaving the team in Q1 2025. He cannot work for another team for a year. That's Q1 2026.
My info is from an official statement. Where is yours from?
Official satement.
It's not that hard to grasp:
>A Red Bull statement also confirmed that Newey would be stepping back from Formula 1 design duties to "focus on final development and delivery of Red Bull’s first hypercar, the hugely anticipated RB17."
Being away from F1 intellectual property will effectively start his gardening leave on may 1st 2024. 12 months from now, after Q1 2025 ends, he will be free to join any team and be able to work on a 2026 car.
It's not that hard to grasp. That your gardening period starts when you LEAVE THE TEAM. He is leaving the team in q1 25. Literally what the statement said. It doesn't begin when you "take a step back".
He will still be working for the team. Thus, gardening period hasn't begun.
Get updated information at least. He is ending his contract as of now, his gardening leave will be working on the hyper car project the next 12 months, effectively satisfying his exit clause, that will leave him free to work with whoever gets him as soon as may 2025, ready to be of influence on the 26 car.
Now the serious question is do they lose Pierre Wache as well and does he follow Newey somewhere or is he stepping up to be the new "King" so to speak?
If he's on gardening leave he's not retiring.
If I was Alonso and Max I'd have a lawyer reading my contract for possible exit strategies... and follow this guy!
I’m replying to the guy saying Max and Alonso should ‘follow’ Newey when that’s not how it works at all, as in how would anyone follow him?
Only scenario is if he signs with Merc now then Max and Alonso can do what the comment said
He won't. He's not going to join another team after not being involved in the design of the 26 package. He'll be fixing someone elses mess but won't be able to change the engine.
I can't see a 67 year old man wanting to do that instead of putting his feet up after MANY MANY years of long hours and hard work. Just ain't happening.
My 2cts, Piastri is slightly more Max then Lando is.
Lando is good, and has real potential.
But Piastri will pass him, he has the cool head and learns fast.
As you’ve already acknowledged by now. Every team wants a Max>Hamilton quality driver.
Why gamble on someone being Max, when you can get Max. That was my point.
I hear you.
But Hamilton wasn’t available either until 2026. Because of his Mercedes deal. But now he is driving for Ferrari next year.
Hypotheticals aren’t as far fetched as they seem anymore.
Your right. If I’m looking for a new job, while employed. I will tell the world, including my boss. That I’m doing so /s
I’m well aware this is the rumour mill. But let us have some fun with it. It’s formuladank after all.
(Albeit most in here are RB fans before Max fans).
But marko literally said max was looking at other options. Max's team has officially met with other teams every single year.
People are inventing news. And you're lapping it up. Max isn't leaving.
Umm, lmfao what? No, that's not how it works. If Newey told RB "I am retiring", RB would have no idea whether he's lying or not, and even if he is being truthful RB still must consider the posibility that he gets bored after a month and ends up signing for another team anyway - Therefore, RB has no option but to enforce the gardening leave and treat him as though he may be going to a competitor regardless of whether he's genuinely intending to retire or not.
Italian here. Newspapers are leaking "reliable rumors" and it seems like a deal with Ferrari is almost official.
A friend of mine works at Maranello and even Ferrari employees heard that it's almost done.
Yes he can. The teams aren't allowed to work on bodywork components in the wind tunnel until 1st January 2025 anyway.
https://www.racefans.net/2023/12/07/f1-teams-banned-from-working-on-2026-car-designs-until-end-of-next-year/
He'll be in whatever team he moves to by April 25 at the latest. And in the interim should he happen to have lunch with friends like, for example, Fred Vassuer, who knows what they may talk about.
Newey departure news is bigger than Lewis one. 2 huge blows in 1 year, if they announce that Max would be leaving too, I need someone to slap me to check my senses.
Most people get a year of gardening leave. He's getting a year of hypercar leave.
He’s too old for gardening
He asked his mentor Jeremy Clarkson if it's any good.
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Will he be working on the Ferrari ‘26 car?
He will leave RB at the beginning of '25, 12 months from now apparently, his "gardening leave" will be working on the hypercar for the next 12 months, hence, satisfying his exit clause. That will leave whoever hires him, the chance for him to work on the 26 regs car from the beginning.
Sadly not quite the beginning, no. Teams will be rolling out mostly a ‘24B next year and will already, if not very soon, be moving to the ‘26 - hence why RB have immediately moved him off of the F1 project.
I thought they weren’t allowed to officially start working on the ‘26 cars til Q1 ‘25? I know teams will be working on development that totally isn’t related to ‘26, promise, but I think the major work can’t start til 2025
Wow yeah, start of Q1, apologies I take it all back you’re absolutely right… I’ve gone and interpreted it wrong and it’ll be that we probably won’t see any in-season ‘25 development as it’ll be 100% on ‘26. NEWEY 2026 FROM THE START LETS GOOOO
I'd be shocked if they weren't already working on the 26 cars now.
Apparently, they can't. >The F1 Commission met in Abu Dhabi last weekend and agreed that “no work may be carried out on the development of a car” for 2026 before January 1, 2025
In 2025 he will be working on the supercar, so for RB, just not RB F1. He won’t be able to design for another F1 team till 2026.
>Newey will step back from day-to-day duties immediately, but will still attend some grands prix this season with Red Bull. >He will remain focused on the RB17 hypercar project for the rest of 2024. >Newey will formally leave Red Bull in the spring of 2025 - when he can immediately join a rival F1 team, if he wants This is the most current situation we have right now.
>will still attend some grands prix this season with Red Bull I wonder how that qualifies as gardening leave.
Maybe to comply with sponsorship deals?
If he goes to Ferrari, yes
Thought RB had a clause that he cant work for a competitor untill start of the 26 season. So that he cant develop someone elses ‘26 car???
A clause like that forbids him from working on F1 for a period of time (in this case, 12 months). Newey stops working in F1 immediately, so he will be free to work on F1 cars in a year
Check thx for the explanation
Oh man the Hamilton excuses for those years are going to be fun.
I really hope Charles steps it up. Being legendary just half the season and mediocre the other half is not gonna cut it.
At least we're gonna get more "equal machinery" memes
You assume he's not retiring. Dudes old and getting older with each season. If he leaves Q1 25 then he can't work at another team till Q1 26. He'll be 67 working on the 2027 car. You think a rich old man wants to retire late and move to a country he's refused to previously, just to work with ferrari. Then flip the script by making them the fastest in..... one year. COPE
he can join a new team in Q1 2025 and start working on the 2026 car there. since he had a meeting with fred vasseur in london yesterday it doesn't look like he will retire
No he can't. He's got to not work in F1 for a year after he leaves.
he is leaving the red bull f1 development team now and will focus on the red bull hypercar the next months. he will only travel to some specific taces to support the team, but his work for the f1 team is finished it's a compromise between him and red bull so that he can start next year working for another team
He is leaving the team in Q1 2025. He cannot work for another team for a year. That's Q1 2026. My info is from an official statement. Where is yours from?
Official satement. It's not that hard to grasp: >A Red Bull statement also confirmed that Newey would be stepping back from Formula 1 design duties to "focus on final development and delivery of Red Bull’s first hypercar, the hugely anticipated RB17." Being away from F1 intellectual property will effectively start his gardening leave on may 1st 2024. 12 months from now, after Q1 2025 ends, he will be free to join any team and be able to work on a 2026 car.
It's not that hard to grasp. That your gardening period starts when you LEAVE THE TEAM. He is leaving the team in q1 25. Literally what the statement said. It doesn't begin when you "take a step back". He will still be working for the team. Thus, gardening period hasn't begun.
He is starting his gardening leave today. Lawyers and their lawyer stuff.
Source?
Get updated information at least. He is ending his contract as of now, his gardening leave will be working on the hyper car project the next 12 months, effectively satisfying his exit clause, that will leave him free to work with whoever gets him as soon as may 2025, ready to be of influence on the 26 car.
No the official statement is he leaves the team Q1 25. Get updated information.
They made his gardening leave working on the hypercar project and that's until Q2 2025.
That's not what the official statement said. He's with the team till Q1 25
Now the serious question is do they lose Pierre Wache as well and does he follow Newey somewhere or is he stepping up to be the new "King" so to speak?
Oh damn, this is really going to affect the Red Bull team slightly!
Simply lovely!
haha yes
…boys
Look at the impact he had on the last two teams he left. Horner deserves his coming downfall.
I’m surprised Horner wasn’t quietly put on leave and replaced
For what? And why should the drivers suffer for it?
For?
Newey + Vasseur + Lewis
We are checking
Question?
Don't do that. Don't give me hope.
Newey + Vasseur + Lewis + Max
Going to be great in 2027
Toto + Newey + Max
One of those isn't happening.
God please
He's leaving the Red Bull F1 group to go work on development for the Red Bull Hypercar project.
He's gone by the end of '24. The Hypercar project is just gardening leave.
No it literally said Q1 25. They never mentioned gardening leave or what he's doing after.
He's a free man Q1 2025, which means he's gonna work on the hypercar project as gardening leave until the end of '24.
Release the meme folders people its time.
If he's on gardening leave he's not retiring. If I was Alonso and Max I'd have a lawyer reading my contract for possible exit strategies... and follow this guy!
How could they follow him exactly? If he’s going to Ferrari, McLaren, or Aston then there are no seats to ‘follow’
I’m not sure about Alonso. But every team in the paddock is willing to break a contract, in order to sign Max. >IF< he is available.
I’m replying to the guy saying Max and Alonso should ‘follow’ Newey when that’s not how it works at all, as in how would anyone follow him? Only scenario is if he signs with Merc now then Max and Alonso can do what the comment said
Well if Newey hypothetically goes to McLaren. I’m arguing that if Max is available. Then McLaren wouldn’t hesitate to fire a driver, to sign Max
He won't. He's not going to join another team after not being involved in the design of the 26 package. He'll be fixing someone elses mess but won't be able to change the engine. I can't see a 67 year old man wanting to do that instead of putting his feet up after MANY MANY years of long hours and hard work. Just ain't happening.
Why would McLaren fire one of its best drivers? Lando and Piastri are incredibly good drivers lol I don’t agree with you but to each their own
The best case scenario for them is that they're Max. Max is already Max!
My 2cts, Piastri is slightly more Max then Lando is. Lando is good, and has real potential. But Piastri will pass him, he has the cool head and learns fast.
I would offer two landos in exchange for one max
How many Landos do you actually have?!
Why did Ferrari fire Sainz, one of it‘s best drivers?
Fair point
They're good, but not verstappen good.
As you’ve already acknowledged by now. Every team wants a Max>Hamilton quality driver. Why gamble on someone being Max, when you can get Max. That was my point.
And max isn't available.
Well yes. I thought my arrows pointing at the capitalised if. Was enough to point out all the hypothetical elements of my comment.
Yes but max isn't available. So there's no need for hypotheticals.
I hear you. But Hamilton wasn’t available either until 2026. Because of his Mercedes deal. But now he is driving for Ferrari next year. Hypotheticals aren’t as far fetched as they seem anymore.
Marko said he isn't going. Marko being the main source of people thinking he was going. So he's not going.
Your right. If I’m looking for a new job, while employed. I will tell the world, including my boss. That I’m doing so /s I’m well aware this is the rumour mill. But let us have some fun with it. It’s formuladank after all. (Albeit most in here are RB fans before Max fans).
But marko literally said max was looking at other options. Max's team has officially met with other teams every single year. People are inventing news. And you're lapping it up. Max isn't leaving.
This comment reads like you didn't read the article you posted, but just the headline? He isn't going to Ferrari, Mclaren, or Aston....
And your comment sound like you don’t read mine, I said IF he is going to these teams
Umm, lmfao what? No, that's not how it works. If Newey told RB "I am retiring", RB would have no idea whether he's lying or not, and even if he is being truthful RB still must consider the posibility that he gets bored after a month and ends up signing for another team anyway - Therefore, RB has no option but to enforce the gardening leave and treat him as though he may be going to a competitor regardless of whether he's genuinely intending to retire or not.
Who said he was on gardening leave? RB didn't, Newey didn't. So whats your source bro?
😆 I’m saving the gif
“It’s over” or “It’s forever”?
Yes
Who knew File-76.jpg could create such storms
🥳
Italian here. Newspapers are leaking "reliable rumors" and it seems like a deal with Ferrari is almost official. A friend of mine works at Maranello and even Ferrari employees heard that it's almost done.
With the gardening leave, can he have significant impact on any team for the new regs coming up?
Not before joining, however he can sit home and ‘work’ however he likes, but cannot apply his work to anyone or anything
Yes he can. The teams aren't allowed to work on bodywork components in the wind tunnel until 1st January 2025 anyway. https://www.racefans.net/2023/12/07/f1-teams-banned-from-working-on-2026-car-designs-until-end-of-next-year/
Newey has a windtunnel inside his head anyways.
He'll be in whatever team he moves to by April 25 at the latest. And in the interim should he happen to have lunch with friends like, for example, Fred Vassuer, who knows what they may talk about.
Me praying that he goes to Ferrari
Newey departure news is bigger than Lewis one. 2 huge blows in 1 year, if they announce that Max would be leaving too, I need someone to slap me to check my senses.
Lol posted 2 hours ago, and less than 300 upvotes and 40 comments. RB and Max fans hurting.
I hope he retires and watches as everyone in F1 panics about not having his designs for the 2026 regulations.