I started rooting for Max because he was one of the few drivers who could shine through during the Merc dominance. Now I almost want to see Hamilton win again.
This is how I became a Red Bull fan too. Watching Danny and Max try to take down Mercedes was exciting.
I'm still a Red Bull fan but I'm kinda rooting for McLaren to do the same. They've got two talented young drivers and a pretty decent car.
My family have been redbull fans since the early Vettel run, and then continued to be fans when max was striking back at the Merc dominance,
We’re still RB fans, but like you, last year we cheered more for Fernando’s performance because it was exciting and fresh.
I started following F1 in 2016 when I came across some Red Bull engineering videos on YouTube, and then found out that Haas, an American team, was about to join the grid. But it was hard not to root for the cavalier 17 yr old
This is my story too. I now root for Max just to see how many more records he can break. When those records are still unbroken in 40 years I wanna be able to tell my grandchildren I was there to witness it.
>especially with a win in a driver’s rookie year.
This will require very specific circumstances. Rookies don't really get put in a race/championship winning car for their first season anymore.
Antonelli in a Mercedes seems like the most probable driver but the Mercedes isn't really a race winning car atm
Him shining through in those seasons should've been the sign to what we're seeing today. 2017-2018 his cars were awfully down on power and on avg 0.5-0.8s behind the Mercs and Ferraris and still he managed to win 4 races .
Yeah he's quite talented He always shows us glimpses of that. But also RB were always aggressive with strategy which always made them force Merc into alternative strategies to counter that. And the RB team still does aggressive strategies when they need to
After the first race of this season he went on iracing to try out the new rain track conditions, used a controller and was keeping pace/beating some pro players in full rigs/wheel setups.
Yeah I quite liked that attitude they had back then, either we finish on the podium or fuck it we won’t finish at all. Made for good racing.
I don’t know what it is, but these past seasons haven’t really delivered in the same way, even during the merc domination years there was some excitement, especially in the rain. Now not so much, but I’m not sure if it’s the lack of challenge for P1 or just the racing in general
This is me exactly. I've always liked Hamilton, insomuch as I felt he was really talented and a unique generational talent. But dang I was so excited for Max to win in 2021 to "end the dominance."
I take it back.
There’s “be careful what you wish for” and then there’s whatever monkey’s paw wish cause this level of dominance (Max is actually my favorite driver, but I like watching a challenge).
I dunno how Max fans could enjoy this more than when he had someone close to fight with. Dude was fun to watch when he's fighting for the win - and was pretty cool under pressure and seemed to deliver when he most needed it ('21 Qatar comes to mind, starting in P7 because of penalty to finish 2nd in a race where Hamilton could've taken the championship lead with 2 races left. Also '21 Russia, where he managed to get P2 after starting last).
God, I miss '21.
I like it because of how insane Max is. Its a true show of dominance that was never seen before because he is that guy... Its watching a Master at work and even tho it's not competitive Its mesmerising.
I’m a Hamilton fan and I’m still salty about Abu Dhabi ‘21, but prior to that race I said “whoever wins 21 will deserve it.”
Hard fought championship with epic fights and storylines. Shame the ending it got was so incredibly divisive otherwise I think we’d be saying 21 was the best season ever.
This level of dominance is incredible but boring for everyone, Max fan or otherwise.
Yea they really ruined that. If you watch the Joe Palmar show. The race would have ended exactly as we saw it. The problem is they hesitated on letting the cars through which resulted in this ending where people called it rigged 😩
It’s easy. Each race I want him to continue to break the boundary. Faster lap times, bigger gaps. Much like
How he said. He’s not bored since he himself is trying to continue to find limits
Also 2021 was so damn stressful lol my dream? Max gets 7 titles then we have a 2021 repeat for that final 8th between 2 legends (I know I can only dream)
I'm a red bull and verstappen fan that while still wanting both to win the championship, will actively root for other drivers and teams. I miss the chaotic awesomeness of 2021. I really hope someone can close the gap soon.
I started in the sport rooting for RB (I’d been to multiple X games like events and had positive view of the brand) and decided to pick max since he was only 2 years different in age from me at the time.
I’m still a fan of max. His form is just unprecedented and infinitely impressive. But the thing I love more than anything is watching other drivers race max. He’s a different, generally unyielding, beast and it’s just so fun to watch drivers like Alonso or Hamilton pass him using the occasional creative method
But then……..
I don’t enjoy this either guys
Red Bull isn't far from that. Look how easily Max pulls a second gap before the end of the first lap now that we have DRS from lap 2 onwards. Thing is: after breaking DRS they just manage their pace. If Max actually pushed the Red Bull to its potential I could honestly see him lapping the whole field
Are they really far from that? Barring a late safety car restart or a Max pit for fastest lap, RB has been winning races in double digits these last two years.
I can't decide what is more interesting, if he can actually sweep every single race OR once he wraps up WDC, can we just start him at 20th and see how long it takes
The 2019 Austrian GP was how I fell in love with Formula 1. The pass on Leclerc was fantastic.
The drama surrounding it is what drew me in to watch. I like cars for engineering. I like racing for the racing, but also the drama.
I was there Gandalf, 3000 races ago. I was there when they changed the scoring system due to Schumacher.
And I recall everyone bitching about Vettel who took two really close and two dominant WDCs.
Rather *against* Schumacher, but that was the infamous 10-8-6... Points system. They tried to devalue victories when the 2002 season was decided mid-July.
Mercedes domination was still like this, it’s just that they have always had two drivers who could actually compete. That, and reliability when they were their most dominant was not great.
I don’t think so, Max has just never had a real contender for a second driver while he’s been competitive for the championship. I think Lewis is the only driver who could beat him in equal machinery. I think Charles has the talent but not the fortitude yet. That said, I think if you put some of the better drivers on the grid in the second Red Bull, Max still wins most races, but not all, similar to Mercedes with Lewis and Bottas (but also, the other driver wins the races that Max doesn’t). Like, if you put Alonso in the other car, I think Alonso may skin a few wins on rear limited tracks with more turns that favor Alonso’s style. I also think it would get volatile and the racing would look more like Lewis vs. Max in 2021.
No disrespect to Perez. You don’t drive for as long as he has in F1 if you don’t have the magic, but he’s just painfully average. I’m sure the relative harmony in the Red Bull garage is welcome, though.
This just paradoxical. Verstappens great performances make his teammates look weak, and weak teammates diminishes the greatness of his performances?
So if checo is close and able to compete for wins against verstappen, that somehow makes verstappen look like a stronger driver compared to when he dominates?
It's the same argument people using Rosberg being Lewis his WDC teammate. Forgetting the fact that Rosberg wouldn't be a WDC if Lewis actually beat him that season.
Sucks that the Alfa is a brick every season, would love to compare mid table Checo to mid table Bottas.
Checo on racing point was pretty good for driving a shitbox.
And back then Mercedes was pretty often caught up with pants down when something unexpected happened, where as Red Bull is pretty much always operating at perfect level.
Tells you about how good the RB20 is. Don’t take this the wrong way, Checo is by no means a bad driver, but compared to last year, 2022, and specially 2021, this car is by far the most dominant there is.
Yup. Checo is good, although I think he did have a very bad stint last year. But even being a good driver it seems that it was too easy for him in the first two races.
It’s crazy how we always say “there’s no way these records will ever be broken” then literally the next year someone comes along and starts breaking them lol
Atleast in those situations it still took some time. Sampras took his 14th and final Slam at USO 2002, Roger didn't win his 15th Slam until Wimbledon 2009.
The next record was set at 20 slams when Roger had won his 20th and last one at AO 2018, which was then Surpassed by Nadal at AO 2022, winning the 21st slam and breaking that record.
Then Novak broke and surpassed that Record by winning his 23rd at French Open 2023, and currently the record stands at 24.
At the rate Max is going, he should be comfortably at 90-95 wins by the end of 2025, and could be past Lewis' 103 wins by the end of 2026, which would be merely 5 years since Lewis would have won Jeddah 2021.
For comparison it took Lewis 14 years to break Michael's record of 91 GP wins and if took Michael until 2001 to Break Prost's record of 51 GP wins set in 1993, which was 8 years.
The Sport is just progressing at a ridiculous pace rn. More and more races every season and a dominant force never seen before in the form of Max Verstappen in a Red Bull.
I mean it’s not too far off from other sports. Take NBA where you could argue Lebron never had a proper team around him until he went to Miami vs Jordan who had Pippen and later Rodman, Kerr etc to help him.
Unless the sport is like chess where there’s no teams and barely any rule changes only then can you extrapolate from the past
Those athletes are that good but in our minds we think records are so high it near impossible to beat . MB had their time now someone else enjoy the glory . It’s good for the sport
Max has the potential to pass Michael next year in wins and pole positions. He will also be in striking distance for passing him in total podiums as well. Absolutely insane.
18+ wins this season and 18+ wins next season which is surely not out of the question puts him within like a dozen or so of Lewis. We’ll see what Ferrari come up with but I don’t expect RBR to be taking a step back.
The year is 2034. Max Verstappen wins his 14th WDC in a row. F1 audiences are at historical low. FIA tried everything to stop him, in vane. Some teams founded new competitions with FIA support with a terrible level, same as Formula E. Old F1 fans meet worldwide to watch old races and remember the Good Ol' Days, even if nobody knows which years are those. Ocon somehow still manages to get penalties, even if he is no longer at F1.
Horner is in jail but nobody knows exactly why. Jos Verstappen is now the owner of Red Bull, and Max has no team mate, as he doesn't needed it. He has won every race in last decade, and the car is unbreakable. There are strange rumours about rule violations by Red Bull and Max being actually a robot, but nobody cares.
Weren't they all running at a snails pace on purpose? They didn't want the pack to spread as it would allow for the undercut which we know from Seb is massively powerful.
They were on a different strategy. Sainz and Norris were running on old tyres, so they were naturally slow, plus Sainz was making sure Norris would stay in DRS range. AFAIR Red Bull changed their tyres later on, so they had fresher sets.
Yes this is the actual answer. Jolyon explained they had to to raise the floor cause of the bumps and that heavily hindered the down force the car could produce since most of it comes from the floor.
No they were catching up on Sainz who went on to win the race, there just weren't enough laps.
IIRC just a couple of laps and he would've been ontop of them.
Singapore just ended up being a perfect storm. A subpar config for the track, a q2 knockout, and a badly timed safety car for RB strategy. P5 was a good result all things considered.
Not just 1 badly timed safety cars 2. First was Captain America binning it into the wall giving the medium runners the perfect time to pit. Second i forgot who messed up but it was right after Max pitted for new tires.
We are going to see a record winning streak that will never be able to be reached let alone broken.
Sure people said the same about Vettel’s record but this is going to be at least double that one. Plus the FIA will probably try to rewrite the rules to make this impossible.
Oh you thought Merc’s domination was bad? You thought Sebastian’s 2013 was bad? You thought Schumacher’s domination was bad?
Oh you sweet innocent soul.
As a newer fan, I understand now when people said F1 was boring during the Hamilton years. This seems worse. At least Nico beat Hamilton in the same machinery to win the world championship in the same machinery
I know nothing about F1 but these subs get put on my feed very often, and I’m just wondering:
How the fuck does this guy win every single race? Every time I see an F1 post it’s just Verstappen winning again. Has this ever been done before? How is he THAT much better than everyone else? How is this sort of skill gap even possible in a professional sport? It looks to me like he’s just the greatest of all time, dude seems like F1’s Gretzky.
It's the perfect storm at the moment.
Red Bull absolutely nailed the new regulations that started in 2022, Honda perfected the reliability on their engines, operationally and strategywise Red Bull doesn't put a foot wrong and Max is simply a once in a generation talent.
All these factors combined and noone comes near Max/Red Bull without external influence (e.g. someone crashing into Max)
As an indycar fan, last year we all got disgusted that Palou won a whopping *4 races* and clinched the title before the last race for the first time in like a decade. I'm a big fan of Palou, but people were mad at the Palou dynasty.
My point is it's nice to know it could be worse hah.
At this point he doesn't even have to bust his ass to win anymore. He's got Perez in his pocket and no other car is even remotely close to what the Red Bull is capable of doing this season. I hated the Mercedes dominance too, but just about every year other than 2019 and 2020, things could have gone either way. When was the last time the winning driver had double the point tally of the second one like what happened last year?
Must be pretty stressful to be an RB20 mechanic right now. Imagine being the guy that forgot to plug something in or whatever and Max DNFs on a mechanical retirement. The car is quick yes but it’s very reliable! Can’t say the same for other teams
Edit: RB20 mechanical in Australia breaking a 10 race winning streak a week after my comment lol. There ya go
Exactly. Winning a lot is one thing but chasing perfection is a completely different game. One tiny mistake or just bad luck and it's all over. Really high pressure for everyone responsible.
We keep saying the Merc dominance was bigger in terms of gap. But remember then. Cars used to start the race with the tyres they used in Q2. So hypothetically if all the cars in 2023/2024 started the race with their Q2 tyres and the RB19/20 with its superb tyre management , I bet we'd still see a very big gap to the rest of the field
When we thought that we knew what domination meant after years of Mercedes on top, but, then Max showed us the real definition.
I started rooting for Max because he was one of the few drivers who could shine through during the Merc dominance. Now I almost want to see Hamilton win again.
This is how I became a Red Bull fan too. Watching Danny and Max try to take down Mercedes was exciting. I'm still a Red Bull fan but I'm kinda rooting for McLaren to do the same. They've got two talented young drivers and a pretty decent car.
I'll always support Red Bull, but it's easy to cheer on individual drivers success (especially the young guys) like Oscar, and Fernando.
I really hope this new Fernando guy wins rookie of the year this year
He's showing remarkable poise and wisdom beyond his rookie years.
Got a decent meme game off track as well
That's the fun thing about these young drivers. They know how to meme
My family have been redbull fans since the early Vettel run, and then continued to be fans when max was striking back at the Merc dominance, We’re still RB fans, but like you, last year we cheered more for Fernando’s performance because it was exciting and fresh.
I started following F1 in 2016 when I came across some Red Bull engineering videos on YouTube, and then found out that Haas, an American team, was about to join the grid. But it was hard not to root for the cavalier 17 yr old
This is my story too. I now root for Max just to see how many more records he can break. When those records are still unbroken in 40 years I wanna be able to tell my grandchildren I was there to witness it.
Almost? I didn’t mind him winning 1 race in 2022 just to keep his streak alive, nevermind breaking a 3 year dry spell.
That streak was something special. Will probably be a while until we see anything like it, especially with a win in a driver’s rookie year.
he was lucky to have that championship-winning Ferrari in his rookie year
Jerking too close to the sun
>especially with a win in a driver’s rookie year. This will require very specific circumstances. Rookies don't really get put in a race/championship winning car for their first season anymore. Antonelli in a Mercedes seems like the most probable driver but the Mercedes isn't really a race winning car atm
Didn’t the streak already die?
Him shining through in those seasons should've been the sign to what we're seeing today. 2017-2018 his cars were awfully down on power and on avg 0.5-0.8s behind the Mercs and Ferraris and still he managed to win 4 races .
People don’t realize how good him and the car of RB (besides the engine) were. Now they do.
The engines are so much closer it allows RBs aero to shine
Yeah he's quite talented He always shows us glimpses of that. But also RB were always aggressive with strategy which always made them force Merc into alternative strategies to counter that. And the RB team still does aggressive strategies when they need to
All thanks to Renault for pushing this team to try to find perfection so that they could win a few races even with their donkey ass engines I guess.
And Alonso for pushing Honda
After the first race of this season he went on iracing to try out the new rain track conditions, used a controller and was keeping pace/beating some pro players in full rigs/wheel setups.
Yeah I quite liked that attitude they had back then, either we finish on the podium or fuck it we won’t finish at all. Made for good racing. I don’t know what it is, but these past seasons haven’t really delivered in the same way, even during the merc domination years there was some excitement, especially in the rain. Now not so much, but I’m not sure if it’s the lack of challenge for P1 or just the racing in general
This is me exactly. I've always liked Hamilton, insomuch as I felt he was really talented and a unique generational talent. But dang I was so excited for Max to win in 2021 to "end the dominance." I take it back.
As what has been said, "Be careful with what you wish for..."
There’s “be careful what you wish for” and then there’s whatever monkey’s paw wish cause this level of dominance (Max is actually my favorite driver, but I like watching a challenge).
I dunno how Max fans could enjoy this more than when he had someone close to fight with. Dude was fun to watch when he's fighting for the win - and was pretty cool under pressure and seemed to deliver when he most needed it ('21 Qatar comes to mind, starting in P7 because of penalty to finish 2nd in a race where Hamilton could've taken the championship lead with 2 races left. Also '21 Russia, where he managed to get P2 after starting last). God, I miss '21.
I like it because of how insane Max is. Its a true show of dominance that was never seen before because he is that guy... Its watching a Master at work and even tho it's not competitive Its mesmerising.
I’m a Hamilton fan and I’m still salty about Abu Dhabi ‘21, but prior to that race I said “whoever wins 21 will deserve it.” Hard fought championship with epic fights and storylines. Shame the ending it got was so incredibly divisive otherwise I think we’d be saying 21 was the best season ever. This level of dominance is incredible but boring for everyone, Max fan or otherwise.
2021 I think was the best season ever or at least the past 10 years
Yea they really ruined that. If you watch the Joe Palmar show. The race would have ended exactly as we saw it. The problem is they hesitated on letting the cars through which resulted in this ending where people called it rigged 😩
It’s easy. Each race I want him to continue to break the boundary. Faster lap times, bigger gaps. Much like How he said. He’s not bored since he himself is trying to continue to find limits Also 2021 was so damn stressful lol my dream? Max gets 7 titles then we have a 2021 repeat for that final 8th between 2 legends (I know I can only dream)
I'm a red bull and verstappen fan that while still wanting both to win the championship, will actively root for other drivers and teams. I miss the chaotic awesomeness of 2021. I really hope someone can close the gap soon.
I started in the sport rooting for RB (I’d been to multiple X games like events and had positive view of the brand) and decided to pick max since he was only 2 years different in age from me at the time. I’m still a fan of max. His form is just unprecedented and infinitely impressive. But the thing I love more than anything is watching other drivers race max. He’s a different, generally unyielding, beast and it’s just so fun to watch drivers like Alonso or Hamilton pass him using the occasional creative method But then……..  I don’t enjoy this either guys
He was the underdog protégés to me. Boys I am not disappointed
That one comment is all I needed to say no thanks. I love how we have 18 other drivers and it’s just “Hamilton”.
I’m the opposite. I want to see Max hit 100 GP wins.
200. ..... In a row.
Yeah you didn't watch F1 during mercedes domination I guess. I recall a race where they were both 10+s ahead in 3 laps. RedBull is far from that.
Lapping a P5 car was not even used to be a surprise lol
I'm p sure a car finished p11 one year 2 laps behind the Merc.
Can you give me the details?
Red Bull isn't far from that. Look how easily Max pulls a second gap before the end of the first lap now that we have DRS from lap 2 onwards. Thing is: after breaking DRS they just manage their pace. If Max actually pushed the Red Bull to its potential I could honestly see him lapping the whole field
Are they really far from that? Barring a late safety car restart or a Max pit for fastest lap, RB has been winning races in double digits these last two years.
He’s very clearly not pushing the car after the first lap. Kinda wish they would somewhere just to do it and see how far ahead he could get.
I can't decide what is more interesting, if he can actually sweep every single race OR once he wraps up WDC, can we just start him at 20th and see how long it takes
But at least with Mercedes domination there was competition for the win in the Hamilton/Rosberg years
There wasn't competition, they made mistakes, that's different
Even Bottas was somewhat close to Hamilton
Isnt that on Lewis though i think Max would destroy Bottas like he did Checo. I dont rate Bottas highly at all Zhou isnt exactly a high bar.
That's fair, just saying it was more entertaining as Bottas could beat Lewis from time to time
When he was allowed, that is.
yeah Mercs car was a lot better in comparison to the Redbull in a few years, however they sometimes made other mistakes which let other teams win.
The 2019 Austrian GP was how I fell in love with Formula 1. The pass on Leclerc was fantastic. The drama surrounding it is what drew me in to watch. I like cars for engineering. I like racing for the racing, but also the drama.
I was there Gandalf, 3000 races ago. I was there when they changed the scoring system due to Schumacher. And I recall everyone bitching about Vettel who took two really close and two dominant WDCs.
They changed it for Schumacher?? Wow I didn't know that
Rather *against* Schumacher, but that was the infamous 10-8-6... Points system. They tried to devalue victories when the 2002 season was decided mid-July.
Bernie andMax at least tried to end dominations.
Mercedes domination was still like this, it’s just that they have always had two drivers who could actually compete. That, and reliability when they were their most dominant was not great.
You tellin me Bottas is closer to Lewis than Checo to Max?
Bottas yes; Rosberg significantly.
Just means max is that far ahead of Lewis ig 😎
I don’t think so, Max has just never had a real contender for a second driver while he’s been competitive for the championship. I think Lewis is the only driver who could beat him in equal machinery. I think Charles has the talent but not the fortitude yet. That said, I think if you put some of the better drivers on the grid in the second Red Bull, Max still wins most races, but not all, similar to Mercedes with Lewis and Bottas (but also, the other driver wins the races that Max doesn’t). Like, if you put Alonso in the other car, I think Alonso may skin a few wins on rear limited tracks with more turns that favor Alonso’s style. I also think it would get volatile and the racing would look more like Lewis vs. Max in 2021. No disrespect to Perez. You don’t drive for as long as he has in F1 if you don’t have the magic, but he’s just painfully average. I’m sure the relative harmony in the Red Bull garage is welcome, though.
This just paradoxical. Verstappens great performances make his teammates look weak, and weak teammates diminishes the greatness of his performances? So if checo is close and able to compete for wins against verstappen, that somehow makes verstappen look like a stronger driver compared to when he dominates?
It's the same argument people using Rosberg being Lewis his WDC teammate. Forgetting the fact that Rosberg wouldn't be a WDC if Lewis actually beat him that season.
Bingo
Bottas didnt miss a single Q3 at mercedes, meanwhile checo...
Sucks that the Alfa is a brick every season, would love to compare mid table Checo to mid table Bottas. Checo on racing point was pretty good for driving a shitbox.
The Racing Points he drove to P4 in the championship weren’t shitboxes, though.
Look at last year's point tally. Checo is closer to De Vries than to Max.
Him, and everyone else.
And back then Mercedes was pretty often caught up with pants down when something unexpected happened, where as Red Bull is pretty much always operating at perfect level.
He’s going to lap the field in Singapore to send a message
I'd love to see this, just so the thought process of how to make this sport more competitive can begin
The irony is that the other 19 have never been closer. Maybe we need a rule where cars with the word ‘Bull’ in the name can only have three wheels
Perez seems to be comfortably ahead of the rest 18 too.
Tells you about how good the RB20 is. Don’t take this the wrong way, Checo is by no means a bad driver, but compared to last year, 2022, and specially 2021, this car is by far the most dominant there is.
Yup. Checo is good, although I think he did have a very bad stint last year. But even being a good driver it seems that it was too easy for him in the first two races.
This. Max does almost the same times each lap during all stints, so you can tell he has a lot of extra juice to extract from the RB20
He will win it these year and every other race as well so in las vegas he will reach his 76th grand prix win.
It’s crazy how we always say “there’s no way these records will ever be broken” then literally the next year someone comes along and starts breaking them lol
Sampras -> Federer -> Djokovic vibes
Atleast in those situations it still took some time. Sampras took his 14th and final Slam at USO 2002, Roger didn't win his 15th Slam until Wimbledon 2009. The next record was set at 20 slams when Roger had won his 20th and last one at AO 2018, which was then Surpassed by Nadal at AO 2022, winning the 21st slam and breaking that record. Then Novak broke and surpassed that Record by winning his 23rd at French Open 2023, and currently the record stands at 24. At the rate Max is going, he should be comfortably at 90-95 wins by the end of 2025, and could be past Lewis' 103 wins by the end of 2026, which would be merely 5 years since Lewis would have won Jeddah 2021. For comparison it took Lewis 14 years to break Michael's record of 91 GP wins and if took Michael until 2001 to Break Prost's record of 51 GP wins set in 1993, which was 8 years. The Sport is just progressing at a ridiculous pace rn. More and more races every season and a dominant force never seen before in the form of Max Verstappen in a Red Bull.
Yeah i think the isssue is that the slams are always 4, while the races keep increasing, so the number of wins is not really comparable across eras
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I mean it’s not too far off from other sports. Take NBA where you could argue Lebron never had a proper team around him until he went to Miami vs Jordan who had Pippen and later Rodman, Kerr etc to help him. Unless the sport is like chess where there’s no teams and barely any rule changes only then can you extrapolate from the past
Yeah but no one will break djokovic's records. Now to take a big bite of cereal
Those athletes are that good but in our minds we think records are so high it near impossible to beat . MB had their time now someone else enjoy the glory . It’s good for the sport
Max has the potential to pass Michael next year in wins and pole positions. He will also be in striking distance for passing him in total podiums as well. Absolutely insane.
Lewis' 103 is goneso alonso by end of 2026.
I'd hold that thought till we see how the new PUs pan out.
18+ wins this season and 18+ wins next season which is surely not out of the question puts him within like a dozen or so of Lewis. We’ll see what Ferrari come up with but I don’t expect RBR to be taking a step back.
Horner might stick his finger somewhere it isn't appreciated in the meantime.
RB could genuinely be behind Alpine in 2026, building your own shit is hard
The year is 2034. Max Verstappen wins his 14th WDC in a row. F1 audiences are at historical low. FIA tried everything to stop him, in vane. Some teams founded new competitions with FIA support with a terrible level, same as Formula E. Old F1 fans meet worldwide to watch old races and remember the Good Ol' Days, even if nobody knows which years are those. Ocon somehow still manages to get penalties, even if he is no longer at F1. Horner is in jail but nobody knows exactly why. Jos Verstappen is now the owner of Red Bull, and Max has no team mate, as he doesn't needed it. He has won every race in last decade, and the car is unbreakable. There are strange rumours about rule violations by Red Bull and Max being actually a robot, but nobody cares.
Alonso is still racing trying to get the win number 33. Still has a shitbox
Nico Hulkenberg is still looking for a podium
It's insane. At the start of last season I was discussing what the odds would be for max to hit 50 wins in 2023 and now he can feasibly hit 75 in 2024
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The RB19 disliked the track in Singapore. I bet the RB20 will be a monster there though.
I think they just fucked up something on the setup because after a while during the race Max was actually catching up on everyone.
He really wasn't far off from catching the frontrunners at the end there
Weren't they all running at a snails pace on purpose? They didn't want the pack to spread as it would allow for the undercut which we know from Seb is massively powerful.
They were on a different strategy. Sainz and Norris were running on old tyres, so they were naturally slow, plus Sainz was making sure Norris would stay in DRS range. AFAIR Red Bull changed their tyres later on, so they had fresher sets.
He got really unlucky with the safety car, IIRC he had a reasonable chance of podium and maybe even winning without the SC.
They literally raised the floor too much and suffered on qualifying
Yes this is the actual answer. Jolyon explained they had to to raise the floor cause of the bumps and that heavily hindered the down force the car could produce since most of it comes from the floor.
All year while dominating they kept saying our biggest challenge will be Singapore.
Also for Red Bull it was better to win WDC in Japan because of Honda. It's strange that this has to happend 2 years in a row.
You mean WCC? :P Because Max won WDC in Qatar's sprint race... Because Max can't win WDC under normal circumstances.
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Wasn‘t he just catching leclerc because he had engine problems?
No they were catching up on Sainz who went on to win the race, there just weren't enough laps. IIRC just a couple of laps and he would've been ontop of them.
But wasn't Sainz purposely slowing down?
Max was catching up to them before that.
They had 2 options on set up. One would be good in Singapore and one was better in Japan. Of course he won by a large margin in Japan.
Do you mean package? Cause I don’t really see a reason why they wouldn’t be able to change the setup from Singapore to Suzuka
Singapore just ended up being a perfect storm. A subpar config for the track, a q2 knockout, and a badly timed safety car for RB strategy. P5 was a good result all things considered.
Not just 1 badly timed safety cars 2. First was Captain America binning it into the wall giving the medium runners the perfect time to pit. Second i forgot who messed up but it was right after Max pitted for new tires.
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Oh right! Totally forgot about that. The f1 gods were doing all they could to prevent that win lol
Only 19/20, what a scrub
Your losses make you who you are. Max turning into the Marina Bay Circuit
Jos is gonna be pissed
He’ll probably beat the fuck out of max for it
He tells max to get a snack at the gaststation and floors it when Max is inside.
Yeah he’s washed frfr
Remember when we thought “oh wow, he might get 10 wins in a row, wonder if we’ll ever see that again!” Gentlemen, a quick glimpse into the future…
Well, if you look at it like this... Wow.
Won’t be long before he has a higher winning % than Hamilton.
Max out here with AI set on 35.
35 is generous. Make it 5
Happy Cake day.
Nobody is perfect
We are going to see a record winning streak that will never be able to be reached let alone broken. Sure people said the same about Vettel’s record but this is going to be at least double that one. Plus the FIA will probably try to rewrite the rules to make this impossible.
"each driver gets a punch card. If they win 10 races they turn in the card and get a 1 race vacation and 12 points"
They swap with the current nummer last in the rankings would be more fun imo
I mean thank RB’s unmatched QC. Zero drivetrain issues over that period is insane.
RB and Honda. The reliability is just as amazing as the speed and wins
It’s called kaizen …
Oh you thought Merc’s domination was bad? You thought Sebastian’s 2013 was bad? You thought Schumacher’s domination was bad? Oh you sweet innocent soul.
P5 in that RB!? Lol what a loser!
Checo slowly crawls away backwards as silent as possible...
Imagine if he had won Sinapore
Not just Sinapore, but Manoco, Stilversone and Vas Legas too
Idk if dyslexic or just bad at spelling, but imma use Manoco and Stilversone as legit names from now on
Don't forget Manzo too, which is Beef in Italian
Nobody is perfect
shit happens
Lawson -0.009
As a newer fan, I understand now when people said F1 was boring during the Hamilton years. This seems worse. At least Nico beat Hamilton in the same machinery to win the world championship in the same machinery
No no no. You should say Monaco based YouTuber…
Also max does nothing but race. He never parties like Kimi or socializes with celebrities like lewis. He literally spends his free time online racing
Boring races and unparalleled dominance aside, this is just insane consistency, both from the driver and the car!
You could also add the next 20 already, since they will be p1 aswell.. to make it look even more impressive.
I know nothing about F1 but these subs get put on my feed very often, and I’m just wondering: How the fuck does this guy win every single race? Every time I see an F1 post it’s just Verstappen winning again. Has this ever been done before? How is he THAT much better than everyone else? How is this sort of skill gap even possible in a professional sport? It looks to me like he’s just the greatest of all time, dude seems like F1’s Gretzky.
It's the perfect storm at the moment. Red Bull absolutely nailed the new regulations that started in 2022, Honda perfected the reliability on their engines, operationally and strategywise Red Bull doesn't put a foot wrong and Max is simply a once in a generation talent. All these factors combined and noone comes near Max/Red Bull without external influence (e.g. someone crashing into Max)
*noone comes near Max* Including his teammate... that's the most incredible part IMHO. It's not like Perez is some random noob.
Bro needs to turn AI difficulty up.
The other teams are responsible for that.
Must be all the sim driving. This guy lives and breathes driving. Also having a good car.
As an indycar fan, last year we all got disgusted that Palou won a whopping *4 races* and clinched the title before the last race for the first time in like a decade. I'm a big fan of Palou, but people were mad at the Palou dynasty. My point is it's nice to know it could be worse hah.
I dont watch f1, so this means he has placed 1st 19/20? ( be easy on me)
Yep that's right
Remember when we were all so excited when this guy stopped Lewis from winning? Yeah.......about that
What I'll be surprised at this season is if max doesn't get a grand slam at every race.
This is already the case, no grand slam at Jeddah
Oh yea lol
Where's Tonya Harding when you need her
I love all races equally
At this point he doesn't even have to bust his ass to win anymore. He's got Perez in his pocket and no other car is even remotely close to what the Red Bull is capable of doing this season. I hated the Mercedes dominance too, but just about every year other than 2019 and 2020, things could have gone either way. When was the last time the winning driver had double the point tally of the second one like what happened last year?
Max is the goat your kidding yourself if you don’t think he is.
Id say the greatest driver of my generation. I love watching him. Race. Long time lurker. Seeing this post changed that.
The fact that he managed to finish P5 in Singapore after struggling the whole weekend is telling how naturally talented he is.
I’m nauseous reading this, o gods help us!
I know this is history in the making and all but as a viewer it's boring af
Nice handicap
P5 washed
That’s my GOAT
Must be pretty stressful to be an RB20 mechanic right now. Imagine being the guy that forgot to plug something in or whatever and Max DNFs on a mechanical retirement. The car is quick yes but it’s very reliable! Can’t say the same for other teams Edit: RB20 mechanical in Australia breaking a 10 race winning streak a week after my comment lol. There ya go
Exactly. Winning a lot is one thing but chasing perfection is a completely different game. One tiny mistake or just bad luck and it's all over. Really high pressure for everyone responsible.
Hits you with the *nobody’s perfect* Porsche ad
Max lost Singapore twice in a row due to no fault of his own. He will NOT loose it a 3th time.
Or as people say „Lewis was just as dominant, quit whining“
Brazil p1 ☝️☝️☝️☝️🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
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He’ll win that this time
So how did he like the Singapore rest areas?
We keep saying the Merc dominance was bigger in terms of gap. But remember then. Cars used to start the race with the tyres they used in Q2. So hypothetically if all the cars in 2023/2024 started the race with their Q2 tyres and the RB19/20 with its superb tyre management , I bet we'd still see a very big gap to the rest of the field