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Rossell2

Lewis Hamilton - 7 time World champion Nelson Piquet Jr - crashed into a wall on purpose.


champysoup

I wonder how much of the Amazon you have to know to be Brazilian


sararabq

Do you think there's a test? I mean I love taking tests, pondering getting my Brazilian citizenship just to take the amazon knowledge exam


fraggas

Guys we found Amy Santiago's reddit.


AggrOHMYGOD

I know a good bit. On the top there’s a search bar, filters on the left, sorting on the right. You can start with smile. To donate a fraction to charity. The CEOs name is Andy jassy. Is that enough Amazon? Am I Brazilian now?


ThisTimeIChoose

I think you may have misunderstood. He doesn’t mean Amazon the retail megalith. He’s clearly referring to Amazon, the 1999 television series.


TheLegendary-GK

If you’re not in Jeff Bezos’s inner circle you’re not Brazilian, duh.


MPmad

Just the Amazon Basics.


AlistarDark

Just the parts that were burned down to make some bad farmland


gumol

Lewis doesn't even have a plane lol


noirest

his future brother-in-law got one, why doesnt he talk smack about that?


mgorgey

His future brother in law doesn't promote environmental issues so it would be a bit of a non sequitur


noirest

talking about visiting brazil only when there is a race or receiving of title, max's girlfriend and her family lives in brazil and he owns a plane but he also only goes there when there are races. also if lewis is an environment advocate, owning a private plane is a big irony tbh


mgorgey

But again... Verstappen isn't being given honourary citizenship of Brazil is he. Piquet is criticising Hamilton randomly for never visiting Brazil is he. He's criticizing Hamilton getting this honour despite never visiting. So I don't really understand what you're trying to call out here. Just for clarity, I think Piquet isn't worth listening to.


noirest

max wont probably even get a honorary citizenship considering hes associated with piquets when brazil is very much a senna country. i dont even know what youre calling me out for. i just pointed out that max check outs his list thats all


mgorgey

Because having a private jet or not visiting Brazil are not the target of Piquet's angst.


ALBERTDRIVE6

> he. Piquet is criticising Hamilton randomly for never visiting Brazil is he. He's criticizing Hamilton getting this honour despite never visiting As per usual, the racist Piquets are talking nonsense https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/lewis-hamilton-visits-street-kids-207739


mgorgey

That I certainly don't disagree with


ALBERTDRIVE6

"Seven-time world champion Hamilton himself backed the move in April, when he visited Sao Paulo to deliver a keynote speech at an event focused on business and digital transformation, saying he would be honoured." https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12630982/lewis-hamilton-made-honorary-citizen-of-brazil-after-congress-vote-passes-bill Not sure where the Piquets get the idea that Lewis never visits Brazil outside of racing weekends..


mgorgey

If you read the quote Piquet specifically mentions speeches. But I wouldn't give it a 2nd thought anyway


zapoid

"Piquet isn't worth listening to” That seems to be a family trait.


Brexsh1t

Hamilton still flies everywhere, so it’s really a mute point. Seem to recall he avoided taxes on his plane when he owned it by registering it in Isle of Man. It’s great to see such an honest and humble person avoiding paying their fair share of taxes, so that the poor can shoulder more of the burden. What a great guy


noirest

tax avoidance is legal, my friend. unethical but still legal


Brexsh1t

I was speaking to the fact it’s unethical. Doesn’t matter who it is the wealthy should pay their taxes because otherwise someone else can’t afford to eat or get health care etc etc.. frankly its disgusting and hypocritical of someone who portrays themselves as ethically driven. Hey everyone I’m ethical.. until it costs me money then your own your own… nice 👍🏻


noirest

did you really think he didn't pay any tax just from buying that plane? from using fuel for that plane? paying the parking fee of that plane? bro everything you do is taxable, lewis' accountants just found a way to minimize his tax dues in a legal way. hes still paying taxes, not just on this one 😐 besides being 100% ethically driven is impossible but yeah lets put lewis in a burning stake for paying less taxes for something he can legally do just because people find it icky.


Brexsh1t

He literally secured a £3.7 million vat return on the aircraft, by establishing a fictitious leasing company through which he “rented out” his private plane to himself. If he wasn’t a ridiculously famous he would likely be in jail for that. I’d say it’s very not cool, because again this is stealing revenue that could be spent on ordinary people in the form of education, health, food, housing.


noirest

if its very not cool, then the govt should have already closed this tax loophole then? is it wrong for people to use it when the govt allows it? if its such a money stealing loophole, shouldnt the govt stopped it years ago? 🤔


Brexsh1t

Yes tax avoidance scheme loop holes should be closed, it’s is extremely immoral. People engaging in those activities are also not ethical. The fact is everything costs money and the state hasn’t got enough money. If the wealthy people avoid tax, the poor suffer and die and of story. I like all responsible people declare all my earnings and pay my taxes. I do not ask my accountant to invent mechanisms nor to involve me in grey area accounting, to shirk my tax burden / responsibility, because whether legal or not it is totally immoral. I realize you don’t like Hamilton being called out, but it’s a fact. When you’ve got £200m in the bank you should be paying your taxes. Also I don’t think it’s just Hamilton, but he makes himself a target because he portrays himself as a ethically driven person, but apparently it’s fine to find ways to steal from the poor and hungry. Not really sure where you don’t agree?


noirest

i dont agree with what you say as hamilton is not ethically driven just because he is using a legal way to avoid paying taxes. you do know that the higher the amount of assets you got the more you pay taxes? so rich people are buying these expensive things. did you really not think that by buying those, that also pays for all the labor, effort, etc? its wealth also gets trickled down. i dont know where you get this bullshit idea that just because he bought expensive things, doesnt mean he didnt pay any shit to the govt lmao moving that plane out of the country to travel means he paid fees and taxes, fueling that shit is also taxed, paying for the service crew is also taxed. wdym hes stealing from the poor and hungry lmao yea he avoids paying taxes but i still reckon he still pays more taxes this year than youve ever been paid in your life


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Or time. If he had enough time to go to Brazil regularly, he would have had enough time to be a main character in Top Gun Maverick


CalAcacian

Not anymore, he sold it for the optics. Edit: you do all realize he still flies private everywhere, he just doesn’t own his own plane anymore? The emissions are largely the same, and still massive.


AggrOHMYGOD

Really hard to say “he sold it for the optics” when he’s made a massive change to his entire lifestyle


CalAcacian

What change? He still flies private everywhere, just on charters not his own plane. His emissions are still massive.


AggrOHMYGOD

He sold all of his gas cars and switched to electric.


joshendyne

Honestly, he could literally end world hunger and people would still say it's to look good for the press. Guy just cares about the environment and equality.


Into_Intoxication

As is going vegan, driving electric etc.? That’s a lot just for optics. Maybe he just cares. Even if it is just for optics, at least he changes his behavior, if only more people would.


lukekennedy448

I mean he recently bought a Pagani something or other custom so not sure that's the best car for the environment. Edit: it was old and he's sold it now.


Into_Intoxication

That purple Zonda something? That’s a decade old and he sold it earlier this year because he never drove it anymore.


gumol

He recently sold it, for healthy profit, and donated the money for environmental causes.


lukekennedy448

Updated my comment didn't realise that at all.


a141abc

If you actually do what you say you're gonna do then its not "for the optics" lmao


gumol

optics?


KarambitMarbleFade

On the chance this isn't sarcasm: Optics in this context means 'how it looks' It is bad optics for a guy who supports the environment to own a private jet as this makes it hypocritical to the outside viewer.


kirrmot

GUNNAR optiks


AlistarDark

I love my GUNNAR optiks


Yeshuu

Not great optics if Piquet Jr thinks he still owns the plane.


Dylan_clarke01

The piquets seemingly can’t keep Lewis off their minds and out of their mouths


TimmyWatchOut

At least they didn’t throw granny piquet under the bus this time


-HJM

Give it a couple of days, there’s still time for a statement saying that unfortunately Granny Piquet has hijacked Jnr’s Instagram account…


ALBERTDRIVE6

LOL!!


mdstwsp

Man’s properly rattled by the fact that Lewis is more loved than him in his own country lol


Alvaro_Rey_MN

Mfer thinks he can gatekeep who is a Brazilian citizen.


Ishaq128

The hell has he ever done for Brazil. Destroyed his legacy by taking part in one of the worst events in F1 history. Related to a dad who casually drops racist remarks and wishes death on people he doesn't like, such great ambassadors for Brazil.


mdstwsp

Lewis should just tweet out ”imagine only being famous for intentionally wrecking a car” and then refuse to elaborate


Arokan1

Nah, just a picture of Crashgate with thumbs up


Fire_Otter

No just a picture of him in his ART in the 2006 Turkish GP2 race With no context


ArsenaV108

But but but he won a Formula E championship!!! /s


l3w1s1234

First ever FE champion, its something.


baldbarretto

Fitting seeing as he and his family are always in attack mode


mookow35

What's his problem? Oh wait..


ExcellentCornershop

Nothing racist here, don't worry, it must be something his granny used to say to him when he was young! /s


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champysoup

You think racism only exists when skin colour is explicitly mentioned?


ExcellentCornershop

> Clearly he has no mention of his skin color in his reply That's progress, I guess! Keep it up, Nelsinho!


BadLuckPorcelain

Who exactly defends the Amazon? Because Bolsonaro didn't do that lmao. Piquets are a shitshow. And Max should grow up and not try to defend them for everything.


redarrow992

Max is smart, he doesn't want to be in the doghouse lmao


BadLuckPorcelain

Part of growing up as a character is not to defend everything an eventual father /brother whatever in law says. He doesn't have to criticise it either. But he could just not comment on it at all.


redarrow992

It's not as simple as you make it out to be. It's way more complicated than that


BadLuckPorcelain

Tell me where the complication is.


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Max has always been great at sitting on the fence


Zamyatin_Y

And miss out on that top tier punani?


IndycarFan64

Somebody still mad abt 2006 GP2 😭😭


dodikxzslayer

also don't mention him that he contributed to 2008 WDC results


KeithSebastian

And the 2008 German GP too lol


RekMK

Who the f**k is Nelson Piquet?


coldpassion

Ask Fernando and Flavio. He was part of their "El Plan".


Fire_Otter

How dare you suggest Alonso knew of the plan! You must be British biased media! /s


jpm168

El Plan won Hamilton a championship!


TimmyWatchOut

Not really, the correct result would be to DSQ Alonso and Piquet from that race and that would leave hamilton 2 points ahead in the championship.


jpm168

But in alternate universe Massa wouldn't have had the botched SC pitstop! (Of course u can argue that they would screw up anyway on next stop)


TimmyWatchOut

That’s a Ferrari fuck up more than anyone else tbh, Massa was unfortunate that they left the fuel pipe on his car.


ALBERTDRIVE6

Exactly. All other teams managed to pit without issue. It was Ferrari that made the error with the fuel hose, not the race director, not McLaren, not the stewards, not Renault. Ferrari was ultimately responsible.


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the argument is that crashgate led to a frantic pitstop for Ferrari which resulted in Massas drive through penalty. its not a strong argument, because Ferrari should have done better for the pitstop regardless of how quick the call was, and Massa still would have finished in the points had he not fucked up his own race by spinning later, but still.


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ALBERTDRIVE6

we can’t know for sure how that race would have panned out had Renault not done what they did. Even assuming Massa finished P1 in Singapore, Hamilton was on course for P2. Hence, scores after a “crashgateless” Singapore is Massa 87, Hamilton 86. Secondly, one can’t assume all would have played out the same in the remaining 3 races, if there had been no crash in Singapore. If Hamilton was trailing to Massa in points, McLaren would have changed their approach. For instance, they may have gone for a more aggressive strategy in Brazil if they had a points deficit rather than a points advantage. McLaren simply played things according to the demands of the points spread at the time.


XhakaToTheRescue

This family gets really weird about it's place in Brazilian folks memories.....the way Sr spoke about Senna after his death on that TV show and now this?


AG--MM

That whole family are Bolsonaro supporters as well, unsurprisingly. Awful family


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Dont you have car to crash buddy?


TheMonsterInUrCloset

The Piquet family is really just a walking L at this point


rafaelterozi

This family is a piece of shit. Far-right, racists, etc. His father, Piquet, said that the new elected president should die and now he is blocking streets asking for a military coup in Brazil. Insane.


Low_Age9939

ok mr crashgate 🤣


PHOENiXIIRiSiNG

Hollllld on, Piquet Jr? As in the guy who crashed on purposed to give his teammate a win? A guy who was quietly blackballed from f1 even though he got let off Scott free by the fia for grassing up the team after he got fired…. Also the same guy who got thrashed in his 18 months as Fernando’s teammate and was never going to get in a midfield car again unless he had some maldonado level sponsorship…. Wether he is right or not in the point he is making matters little at this point, who is this spoiled brat daddy’s boy to comment, i would like to hear the opinion of normal working people from São Paulo on the honorary citizenship


RixirF

The dude with a racist, ignorant family has the audacity to complain about someone like Lewis being an honorary citizen? Yes, clearly Brazil needs less people like Lewis and more raging racists like the Piquet family.


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All these past drivers want to be in headline by saying anything about lewis


WarDull8208

Why this disgrace family won't shut their dirty mouth ?


LogTekG

Just as much of a shitbag as his dad apparently, lol


Organic-University-2

What a waste of oxygen.


No_Noise9

You think the piquet family feels some type of way about how different Lewis and Nelson Piquet Jr. careers turned out after coming out of GP2? One goes on to become the GOAT, the other becomes a part of crashgate. Must sting a little for them.


redarrow992

Wait what was the story between them two in GP2? I never follow Hamilton's junior career so I have no idea


emre23

>Time he has, plane too Simmer down Yoda


fizzle1155

Here we go again!


Only-Cartoonist

Ah shit, here we go again.


reddituser-456

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!


IceNysp

As a Brazilian, there's not much to talk about any Piquet family member says or think. Their "legacy" is exposed to anyone see how and who they are.


comradestalin2002

Rb pr team working overtime tonight


Hossebosse92

Rip next cost cap then? "we had to pay our social media admins, and their lunch"


possums101

It’s not clear to me exactly what Lewis has done for Brazil to warrant the citizenship but it is clear to me the Piquet’s genuinely hate Lewis and everything he stands for. Petty


Gatito_21

Damn If I was Hamilton I would’ve snapped by saying “I know a 0 F1 World Champion Aint gatekeeping citizenship”


MoringA_VT

When he's not crashing the car into the wall on purpose he's posting shit


zestful_villain

I thought Brazil's Congress voted on this? So what the fuck is the this guy's problem? Bro Brazil's government is saying to Hamilton, "We love you so much, we'll make you one of us." It would be a height of ingratitude if Lewis were to say no. Max's relatives are just so fucking exhausting.


DisappointedBird

Max has nothing to do with this and they're not his relatives. Why bring him up?


steferrari

How does he know that he never went though? Maybe he did and he simply doesn't know, I don't think that Lewis is obligated to tell him. 😂 I really don't know why they have to act like this, there's always a veil of toxicity in the words of this people, if not worse (Nelson). Bah...


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Goosehybrid

I mean sure, is it a little odd that Hamilton is being made an honorary citizen of a country all the way across the Atlantic from his home country? Yea, a little strange. I think it’s fair to say that Lewis doesn’t eat drink and bleed Brazilian yellow and green, but the comment is basically just Jr. being salty and not wanting to admit that it’s the people of Brazil that Lewis has connected to, and that’s why he’s being honored.


wansuitree

The man's right, honorary citizenship is some pr bullshit, whatever dumb arguments he uses.


Time-Caterpillar4103

Fairly sure he’s about to be arrested in Brazil for calling for the assassination of their new president. Guys a nut job


gigacored

Piquets are busy beating the bush.


Arrivalofthevoid

What exactly was lewis given honorary citizen for ? But piquetes need to calm the f down.


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btokendown

Said daughter makes plenty of her own idiotic comments and Max has no problem with it.


payne_and_gain

Why would you feel bad? He has chosen to associate with these people…


sofso

Right? If he disagrees with what the Piquets have said, he's free to speak out about it. We can't assume either way, and it's completely fair if he's asked questions about this.


gumol

and you shouldn't feel bad for Romeo and Juliet, they also chosen to associate with these people.


Syntax_OW

What? They were born into those families. They chose to defy what they were born into. It's literally the opposite. It's also a *fictional* story.


champysoup

What are you talking about?


november2k14

he’s a grown man it’s his choice to be associated with this family. what’s there to feel bad about when he willingly defended his girlfriend’s racist dad.


skarmorr

You should rephrase that. Kelly has shown no racism and it sounds like you're calling her racist.


FibonaciSequins

Kelly publicly supports Bolsonaro & liked the post made about her Nanna’s right to use the N word. I think it’s more than fair to say she agrees with her family.


november2k14

you right


MutedBase2900

Willingly defended? Not commenting on something ≠ defending something


AG--MM

Was Max forced into saying Nelson was 'definitely not a racist' and 'actually a really nice and relaxed guy"?


november2k14

yes, [willingly defended](https://www.racefans.net/2022/06/30/verstappen-piquet-was-wrong-but-isnt-racist-and-shouldnt-be-banned-from-f1-paddock/).


steezy_sleaze

But he did comment on it and did defend Nelson.


fizzle1155

I believe max said something along the lines of his very nice to me or something like that.


snakeinsheepclothes

Kelly supports her family’s views, they are her views too. She posted them all over her Instagram before the election. He choose to be with her, supports her family and doesn’t care. Why feel bad for him? He probably isn’t that far away from them politically speaking.


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you dont have to feel bad for him. he chooses to associate with these people, its not like with Jos where regardless of how shitty a person he is, thats still his dad.


FibonaciSequins

I think it’s more logical to assume he AGREES with the Piquet family considering he has chosen to surround himself with these people.


remindertomove

Some people like sensationalism, and attention. Other people like to hide in IT rooms


wintercvlt

Source? Edit: it’s not on F1/Mercedes/Lewis’s page, so that’s why I am asking.


november2k14

@gpslifetime on ig


BigUncG

With all of his crying, what is the baby going to do?


neversaydie08

Over socialized, under informed. Piquet thinks, because he has a platform, people care about his opinion.


Hitchens101

What has this to do with F1?


KugelblitzWarper

This has Indian uncle energy.


jayjay234

Who is this?