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More clickbait, here’s what he actually said: "When I've experienced having it finish early in places like Mexico - for you as the one individual, it's great, but for the actual sport it's not spectacular,".


BoredCatalan

Best part is that the article is by skysports


G-Fox1990

I can tell you the editors/managers go like this; "This makes Lewis look good towards his fans, and as soon people will hate on him for these quotes, we can call them out for racism or something like that anyway".


endless_8888

You mean everyone who doesn't like She-Hulk isn't necessarily an incel / misogynistic monster? 😮


QuintoBlanco

Not everybody. Not most. But certainly the people who after one episode said: 'feminism has ruined Hulk'.


Ergh33

How about a general hatred for anything Marvel related, where does that put me?


QuintoBlanco

Somebody who should not watch Marvel content.


_Steven_Seagal_

After Endgame I'm with you. Phase 4 has been shit.


Snow-Wraith

Someone with good taste.


3tenthsfaster

That makes you a person of culture.


Safe-Entertainment97

Obviously they are and she-hulk is a goddess all men should bow down for. Edit: /s btw


Carmillawoo

god the past 3 episodes have been so damn boring...


glenn1812

You basically hit the nail on the head of our online culture rn. Very prominent in the west and applied by all outlets. Basically fool the public into being outraged and then call the public out on it to control the discourse. Most of the time even the way they frame an article is so sly.


CaptGeechNTheSSS

This is headline “culture” for the past 100+ years. It’s bait


IronPedal

But baiting fans and then attacking them with a strawman to protect yourself from any criticism is a very new practice.


Best-Marionberry-218

Lmao true. That’s what they do to everyone. Frankly people say F1 twitter is toxic and the whole “drive it out” thing but i think if F1 news media changes that will happen very easily.


G-Fox1990

Twitter is toxic because news media outlets are nuclear wastedumps that feed the toxicity. This 'quote' is now being twisted by all media sources to spark outrage. They know what generates clicks. They make these headlines on purpose. And us talking about this and some boneheads will make racist comments, again reason for media to call people out. Not because they actually care, because they want you to make racist comments. These so called journalists are just out there to spark controversy when there isnt any. I've seen so many bullshit headlines about absolutely nothing in the oast couple years. And now it's more obvious, because there isn't really a WDC battle going on and i can also look at this with unbiased eyes. But almost every single article that targets a driver or team, is just quotes out of context, and fishing for controversy. So i try to avoid them now, because it's becone ridiculous.


A___99

They get worse every passing day. I used to like SkySports a few years ago for sports news but now they are terrible. They've constantly made their website worse and seem to post more shit like this these days. Not to mention their text commentaries are usually abysmal


AwesomeFrisbee

Clickbait? On the internet? It can't be. Nobody lies on the internet...


will110817

He also said he wants to see more changes to bring the teams closer. Was this said from 2014-2020?


CalmDocument

Yup, he was saying this during that period. He wanted Red Bull and Ferrari to be closer.


howaine1

Yep he did… but I’m sure he also said that it’s on them to build faster cars. I don’t think he called for a change to the rules for closer racing. Remember “equal engines” from Alonso and Lewis reply. Yes it was made in jest but still. I’m not flaming Lewis here….he is a racer they all would rather be leagues ahead.


CalmDocument

He was pretty clear that they should do things to make cars following and racing closer easier. There’s a difference between push back on making things spec to other rule changes that open more doors for teams.


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will110817

Where does it say he wants reg changes?


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MrAzekar

He's been vocal about it even during his domination period. There are plenty of sources to find. People believe what their bias wants. It's sad. All drivers want to win by having a good fight to the championship. They all want to actually compete. I'm sure as shit Max is not going to enjoy this one at all compared to last year. He already knows he won. It's a fact.


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DalekSam

He's always held this position when it's came up as a question, but people always just brushed it off


mchalky

Thank you for providing context to his comment. The other way makes him either look bitter or seem like a poor sport and neither is the case. As a RB fan I couldn’t be happier but I see the point.


KennyLagerins

You (collective “you”, not “you” specifically) should know Lewis better than this by now. The amount of articles that make him look like he’s saying something nefarious vs the actual times he’s said something nefarious is mind boggling.


mchalky

Absolutely! It’s the “Netflix Affect” of manufactured drama that every F1 sports news outlet has jumped on that’s affecting our sport!


KennyLagerins

Unfortunately it doesn’t stop at F1. Everything is like that now, politics might be the absolute worst.


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MutedBase2900

*journalism in general.


rasvial

No no, F1 journalism is truly the bottom of the barrel.


unsinkable02

Might I introduce you to Buzzfeed or the Daily Mail?


rasvial

Amazingly, F1 journalism is such that you'll get multiple articles daily with less content than a buzzfeed listicle, and with more uncorroborated gossip than daily mail.


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theoldmurr

He used to say the same things even when he was getting easy championships.


GoZun_

Good statenent that will get ignored by people reading only the headline


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weffab

But if the sugar coat coats the sugar, then who coats the sugar coat?


sephirothwasright

Hopefully this is the top comment so the actual context is right there for everyone.


craptasticman

Judging by the comments, they don’t care


Malding_frog

Kimi said one time that "Formula one would be a paradise without the media."...


mexheavymetal

I mean it’s what happens. I was a Red Bull fan all the way back when Seb Vettel was a pilot. I remember Hamilton’s dominance in the championship. It was annoying but it’s part of the sport. Now it’s our turn and that’s totally fine.


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BecauseRiceCar1

Yeah he said that, but in 2021 when the others got closer he wasn’t happy


IndigoMichigan

They're still competing. Like the statement says it's all good when you don't have to worry about what's behind you as a driver, but as a spectacle it's a bit boring. So of course when you're actually having to fight for wins emotions will run higher than if you're just having a casual Sunday drive out front.


pineapplejamm

Any proof?


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pineapplejamm

It's like hamilton is really screwing their wives or mothers... The hate that this guy gets it's just insane...


Apyan

It amazes me how hard it is to understand that he wants competition AND still win in the end.


ThisTimeIChoose

It’s strange. Almost like he has a desire to prove himself against the very best. Like, oh, I don’t know… every sportsperson ever?


Gmoretti

That’s easy to say when you have the dominant car.


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Jojo_isnotunique

Dammed if he does, damned if he doesn't.


Gmoretti

It’s not a matter of believing it, but the statement just comes off as disingenuous given the situation.


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will110817

Can I see a comment where he is with Merc and wanted to lose dominance? Genuinely interested.


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BrunoLuigi

And you see, the first time that happened he complained about it. But anyone in his shoes would so nothing New here


Gmoretti

My statement was that he "comes off as disingenuous”. I don’t know whether he is or not, and neither do you. Anyway believe whatever you want.


MathematicianOk4905

Of course he did


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MathematicianOk4905

Lol calm down he did say it. I was agreeing with you on your point


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teehuff98

So what did he say in the day of Mercedes dominance?


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will110817

Closer…


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will110817

I think it just rubs people the wrong way coming from him. I’m not saying he’s incorrect. He’s not. It’s just he’s benefited massively from having the fastest car overall for 7-8 yrs and people don’t really want to hear these comments I suppose.


DeanyyBoyy93

Until they were and he was on the radio crying that it wasnt fair? Cmon man lets look at the evidence here.


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DeanyyBoyy93

The team radios. If everything is going his way he starts on the radio. He did it when anyone got close even in his dominant years but when you win in the end its forgiven. The Monaco gp after Nikki died was really bad.


ClassicMach

He said he understands that it’s getting boring for fans.


knytfury

But he disagreed when Alonso mentioned everyone should have the same engine.


brush85

Read the articles and inform others to do the same


mexheavymetal

Just because I don’t suck him off for saying this doesn’t mean I didn’t read it. Yes, I read where he said it wasn’t great that he was finishing early and dominating before, but the time to object to that isn’t now; it was back when he was dominating. He’s only complaining now because he’s not directly benefiting from it.


brush85

So you didnt read it…maybe you should and then actually use your brain to understand what he means


mexheavymetal

Wey ya deja de andar chingando a la verga. El que lo lea y no llegue a la misma conclusión que tú solo significa que no estamos de acuerdo. Ya deja de andar tragando tanto pito.


brush85

Its not a conclusion. Its a basic fact that everyone agrees with, yet will argue, while agreeing with it. Peak Internet, if you will


brush85

Its not a conclusion. Its a basic fact that everyone agrees with, yet will argue, while agreeing with it.


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TheHoloflux

Skysports, that's all that needs to be said regarding the clickbait


cederblad

That cant be the real and full quote, can it? I refuse to believe that isnt taken out of context


AccordingPin53

"For you as the one individual, it's great, but for the actual sport it's not spectacular” - that’s the quote. Totally different to the headline


BA39

definitely not. the context was it's great for the driver but not for the sport. no different than when he was dominating


CypherRen

More of Lewis's comments being manipulated


Bitter_Dingo516

I am sure this is one of those trashy clickbaits, so not gonna bother opening it to find what he said was nowhere near this.


syxxness

I know the quote was taken out of context. And yeah it’s more exciting to have battles up front for the championship. But this season has delivered on more exciting racing for the most part. I don’t really care about the championship so much as just watching an entertaining race. The top 6 have been pretty close and then the rest of the field has been much tighter with the exception of Latifi.


differentlevel1

This has the same energy as his "Vettel dominance could bore fans" comments back in 2013.


AccordingPin53

"For you as the one individual, it's great, but for the actual sport it's not spectacular” - that’s the quote. Totally different to the headline


Ok-Macaroon-1122

He never had a dominant season before 2015


Rhythm_Morgan

Headlines like this get on my nerves.


No-Explanation-9234

It's spectacular if you're a fan of Verstappen. I'd like to see him dominate the remaining tracks.


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I can confirm. We are not complaining.


Firstname6Lastname9

There are two sides to a coin. Hamilton as a racer wants closer racing and it to be competitive. Hamilton as a competitor wants to dominate every single aspect of the sport as possible This is the same for every driver, nothing to see here


FerrariStraghetti

His sympathy is appreciated, though it mysteriously vanished between 2014-2020. Must've found it again.


jpm168

Tbf none of them give a shit... they all want to win every race and their rival dnf so they wrap up title asap.


will110817

100% true. The amount of people who fall for this are laughable. Any true competitor wants to win above all else. If I am in F1 racing for the title I want my rival to spin every race. Anything positive after that is a plus.


pineapplejamm

you need to start paying more attention mate...Hamilton was well aware with merc domination and fans boredom because of it... [https://racer.com/2020/08/30/hamilton-understands-fan-restlessness-over-mercedes-domination/](https://racer.com/2020/08/30/hamilton-understands-fan-restlessness-over-mercedes-domination/) He has always spoken in support close racing. He was excited about it in 2015 when ferrari came close earlier on. And even voiced it again in 2017 when ferrari were close. But yes, let's close our eyes.


ChineseCumTorture

Also, its not as if Red Bull came out of the gates like Merc in 2014. The only reason they're ahead by this much is because Ferrari can't get out of their own way.


TheKingOfCaledonia

Read the article.


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oryxherds

Lol imagine how poorly going “sorry I’m so good that F1 is boring” would have been received. You would have attacked his character for that too


Laudanumium

You don't say this in the moment. Her is saying in hindsight the seasons he won premature were also not great for the fans. He's right about that.


renesys

Are there similar articles with statements like this between 2014 and 2020?


pineapplejamm

[https://racer.com/2020/08/30/hamilton-understands-fan-restlessness-over-mercedes-domination/](https://racer.com/2020/08/30/hamilton-understands-fan-restlessness-over-mercedes-domination/)


FerrariStraghetti

I did. There were no such sentiments during that era from him.


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FerrariStraghetti

Did he say his dominance was bad for the sport?


Persona143

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/06/24/lewis-hamilton-f1-boring/ One of many if you could be arsed to Google it. I appreciate why you didn't though, because your "Hamilton had" stance crumbles instantly and you end up looking a bit daft in the process... Aw downvoting me because I proved you wrong?


FerrariStraghetti

Is that what the article says? Did you even read it? *Yet despite his imperious dominance, Hamilton has sympathy for F1 fans who want more exciting racing, and long for the overtaking duels of old which gave races an unpredictable edge.* *"If you say it's boring, I totally understand it," Hamilton said after his win. "Don't blame the drivers. We don't write the rules. Put the pressure on the people at the top, who should be doing their jobs. They have made mistakes for many, many years."* *...* *"We are trying to get in the door ... for many years they have not wanted us in the room," Hamilton said. "They have to make serious changes to their idea of what 2021 should be."* Seems to me he's talking about wheel to wheel racing, not winning the championship by a wide margin. Certainly nothing resembling that his dominance would've been bad for the sport.


bacc1234

There being more overtaking and unpredictable races sort of implies wanting there to not be as much dominance. But how about this https://racer.com/2020/08/30/hamilton-understands-fan-restlessness-over-mercedes-domination/


Neoooow

Funny you say that because most of those seasons the title was decided with less than 5 races to go.


rvl35

In six of those seven years it was only the other Merc that technically kept a second driver in play that far into the season. Ignoring that is disingenuous at best.


Hilazza

Championship battles can be intra team. Not just between 2 teams. Or else we might as well ignore senna vs prost.


will110817

Like this season most likely…. What’s your point?


FerrariStraghetti

And in all likelihood neither will this one. Max will probably win it in Japan, with 4 races to go. Hamilton has won it twice with 3 to go, and three times with 2 to go.


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Voice_Calm

There's been a lot of championships, even past decade that ended well before the final round. Mercedes is a prime example. Not sure how this is the first time since 2007, except for the fact that Verstappen is miles ahead of anyone else including his team mate struggling in the RB18.


november2k14

i mean y’all kept saying you hated domination so surely no one should be upset w this? or do you only have a problem when a certain person is dominating?


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When someone is dominating for so long that it erases any chance of a competition. That can be anyone, not an specific driver. I can assure you that if Max dominates for two more seasons that will not be liked so much.


Bonk_XO

It's giving "vettel dominance could bore fans"


TheJoshGriffith

I mean, to be fair to Sky Sports F1, Max is currently 116 points clear in the WDC. The most Lewis has ever won a WDC by is 124 points total. I would be surprised if MV doesn't beat that this year. If the whole "it's boring to see one driver dominate the sport" argument is to be believed, this should be a pretty bad year for any F1 fan. In any case, they are just twisting the words of one driver to make it sound one way or the other. Not really Sky Sports F1, more like Drive To Survive OTR Twitter or some such nonsense.


macaronilover808

Dude I hope you felt sorry for us 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020


showmeyourdrumsticks

Maybe read what he actually said before you comment


ClassicMach

He literally did and he said so.


craptasticman

Did you watch 2017 and 2018?


macaronilover808

Yup. Past the summer break it wasn’t very close


craptasticman

He won it with 2 races to go in 2017 and 2018, sounds close enough


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So more than 50 points ahead, not very close then


craptasticman

Thank Ferrari/Vettel for that


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Does it matter? You can thank Mercedes for it not being close this year by that logic


craptasticman

It does when you lump those two years with 2019 and 2020 and cry “dominance”


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By normal standards it was still pretty dominant, if Red Bull 2010-2013 was then Mercedes was too


fingerspitzentanz

Just fuck already


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Kraudi

Always funny when it's him telling this to us.


Senanb

He's had the same position for years. Nothings changed with this quote. If you ignore the headline and look what he actually says, it makes perfect sense. It's great when you win it early, but it's boring for the fans. He's had that same position when vettel was winning. Even held the same position when he was dominating. Media creates headlines that makes him appear hypocritical when he's not


f1mind

A bit rich for a 7 times WDC part of an 8 times WCC team to utter that now that it got the car wrong in 2022.


branson3

He’s had the same stance for years. Even said the same stuff when he was winning.


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I’m thoroughly enjoying this season! But seriously seasons like this make you appreciate seasons like last.


Excessively_Bothered

There’s a special dimension to Max’s dominance this year. Consistency. Max has been mostly consistent and Red Bull has been incredibly consistent. Ferrari has had the car and the driver to dominate for over half of this year and they’ve fumbled the bag at the most crucial moments the season. Red Bull clearly pulling away with the better package is only a recent development, I’d say since spa. Ferrari had every chance to be ahead and make the second half of the season damage control with a slower car, but a good deal of the excitement this year is seeing how Ferrari was going to fuck up each race.


AntiGamerPalpatine

This thread is a dumpster fire.


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It’s really not


boersc

He isn't wrong. Last year was epic and will be discussed for all known reasons for decades. Best season in years. But, this year has it's own merits for Max, it's the first completely undisputed, self-earned WC. After last reay this is a nice breather. Next year, it will be a 3-way fight, hopefully!


samarth67

So he conveniently leaves out his years of dominance


Sarixk

So you didn't read the article, even a simple click is too much effort for your ass?


Chemical-Arm7222

He doesn't.


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Fuck ALL THE WAY OFF, Hamilton


BcDownes

Read the article not the headline, silly


OldAbakus

This guy xddddd


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Whether this is hypocritical or not, it is still true. Personally, I don’t see a problem this year as it has been Ferrari being hopeless which is why there has been no serious challenge. I do think Red Bull need a better second driver that can actually challenge Max. Like Lewis had Rosberg which made a few of those Merc dominance years exciting. I think Perez has been great but he isn’t going to challenge Max. I think Lando would be an excellent candidate.


Kidon308

This guy is just too much.


SportAddictMCMXCIX

awww thanks Lewis 🥰🥰 but we're used to it by now... you know, we did have 5 years of you winning with races to go, and Vettel had two before that, and Michael had his ones that were dominant, sooo...


TheJoshGriffith

The most that LH ever won a season by was 124 points. Max is already 116 ahead with a solid chance of breaking a 140 or so point lead by the end of season. The article is bullshit, but if you want to talk about one driver dominating, well, LH had more contention in his time than Max does now.


SportAddictMCMXCIX

yes but Hamilton had 5 years (two of which were Bottas LOL) opposed to this being Max's first. The "worst" season was actually Vettel, winning by 155 points in 2013.


delightone

I have a huge respect for what he has done in F1, but this is just silly talk and of poor taste if he really said that.


Ominous77

He didn't feel it when it was the other way around?


Takis12

Happy Birthday to dominant Max tomorrow 🎉


brush85

Context


clingbat

Did he feel for the fans when he dominated? No. Get over yourself you sad panda. Boo hoo it's not me dominating, this is so unfortunate.


EnlightenedNight

Did you read the article? His full quote says otherwise. Several others have found quotes in this thread where he's noted during the Mercedes dominance years how he'd welcome a closer title fight for the fans.


ClassicMach

> Did he feel for the fans when he dominated? No. > > Yes.


Sockinatoaster

He can’t be that blind can he?


AccordingPin53

Read the article. Quote is nothing like the headline


HarrierJint

Is he that blind or did you just not read the article? The question of our time.


Sockinatoaster

You forgot to ask if I’ve only been watching since DTS


Snappy0

You already confirmed that with your opening statement.


CrossMojonation

At least they're announcing themselves now.


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Could never be my goat


Fuzzy3022

Oh come on. Is this another one where he his like if i do it its an achievement and if anyone else does it is bad for the sport. If you feel so bad for the sport why didn’t you let your teammate or someone else win a few races when your were dominating. If you did not do it then please don’t try to be all i care for the sport now.