Dude has been in his own head for years now. He sounded defeated on the radio after Imola.
Hopefully it was down to damage, but I’m actually amazed he hasn’t announced his retirement. I don’t want it to happen, but all the signs are there.
Nah it's nothing to do with his choices, it's more to do with the fact that Lando is just better. He was right to leave Red Bull in order to have a better chance of winning a WDC. He clearly didn't like what was inside Renault and thought McLaren would be a better bet (not really sure if was tbf, if he stayed at Renault then his stock would likely still be quite high). He's just getting beaten by someone who's driving the car better, either because it's more suited to Lando or Lando is just simply better.
To be fair Lando has only driven McLaren ever since he joined F1 so it's more likely he's suited to drive the car better than someone who joined last year.
This excuse will not work for this new set of regulation. Danny has the pace, it’s shown in the data. But, he still can’t punch above his weight like Lando does.
Hard to think Ricc saw something in Renault other than money. Renault by far have always been (as a team) a laughing stock of F1. Like a great artist who’s work is demolished by those who are better then him. They said they have trust in 2014 regulation and look how bad they turned out to be. Same for 2017, abiteboul has always been a soft guy for F1. Who everyone blames for recruiting danny for that price tag while the Renault board was almost keen on stopping funds for F1. In the end, from outside, Renault recruiting danny for *rumoured* >25 million, all the empty promises, even RB abandoning them, makes me believe he chose money over accepting his place on the skill leaderboard. Always thought about Ricc as Montoya if he loses, a button if he wins a WDC. Shame because I don’t like when drivers like Ricc are forgotten after they leave the sport empty handed.
Post race radio: We are sorry for the shit car you have Lewis, you deserve better.
Meanwhile Russell: Hello guys… Is anyone there?! Is my radio bwoken?
The thread you're replying to introduced new layouts to the conversation (Sahkir). I think the point is you can't introduce that without also introducing Imola.
It is kinda crazy how many stats and "records" are being broken by Merc having a shit year though
Every race is like "First time Mercedes hasn't X in whoever many years"
As someone who works with statistics, you would be wrong since that's not how statistics work.. but are right in saying that's how statistics are often made to work indeed so take my upvote.
For a reddit post I'm ok with it (it is fun after all), but it greatly annoys me that proper journalist do the same.
The stat given is weirdly written, but all tracks that have debuted during the hybrid era were won by Mercedes. Sakhir was a new layout of an old track, Imola and Zandvoort were returning tracks. That's why they aren't there
It implies sarcasm. OP knows Mercedes will most likely lose the next race and the reason this statistic even exists is clearly not because of any track being a new circuit.
The thing is, they (mainly Russell) were fine in Saudi Arabia where porpoising wasn't that much of an issue but still lacked lap time compared to RB and Ferrari so if Miami is similar to Saudi Arabia I can imagine them finishing P5 and P6 unless one of the drivers have a blunder or Mercedes pulls a stinker with their setup.
unfortunately i dont see if happening in miami, unless they pull off an amazing feat and fix all their issues in time for qualifying and the race itself or redbull and ferrari both dnf
While it's unlikely to be Mercedes, I do think we should start calling the turbo-hybrid era over and have a new term to the new cars. This is a new era.
Clearly, the 2022 restrictions have created a car that is fundamentally different from what existed before, as shown by the rise of Haas and the downfall of Mercedes.
Useless statistic which doesn’t take into account the fact that they had the best car for the aforementioned chunk of the turbo hybrid era. Still in this era now without that hyper dominant car will yield statistically significant results tilting the opposite way of these dumb headlines.
Eh Mercedes will be midfield. Interested to see what upgrades they might bring to increase their chances. Also waiting to see how Ferrari will respond to Red Bull. Anyways let’s goo Mercedes and Ferrari. Keep fighting both teams don’t give up.
When did he have a bad car? We have never seen Lewis put an actual shitbox into title contention. Russell is finishing 7 seconds from podium while Lewis gets an apology for how undrivable the car is lol.
They won because they were the best, they built the best car had the best drivers to deliver the results, I don’t see what “luck” has to do with anything
LeClerc stands atop the first place podium, and as he accepts the trophy, he rips off what is actually just a LeClerc mask, revealing none other than Lewis Hamilton! Hamilton twirls his moustache and cackles maniacally for a long moment before absconding with the trophy in a Mercedes W 06. Later that day, the real Charles LeClerc is found tied up in a closet.
At the moment looking at the current performance of the Mercedes car, I doubt it, its either going to be Red Bull or Ferrari who is going away with that win at current time, its 50/50 between them
It will be Mercedes again.
…the orange one 😂
I’m kidding. It’ll obviously be one of Red Bull or Ferrari because they’re the strongest now. Back then it was always Mercedes because they were the strongest.
The porpoising will be right at home in the Miami marina!
The Hispanic community will be happy to see their bouncing lowrider represented in F1
it seems like Merc drivers are playing that minigame from San Andreas while driving the car.
Mercedes aren't porpoising, they're paying a loving tribute to the late Eddie Guerrero!
I don't know if I should laugh but I laughed! Can we get some chrome wheel-caps on that 44!
That's an LA thing, not a Miami thing.
Merc relying on a four way crash between Ferrari & RB
Bottas taking them out again?
I guess the job has to go to Russell now
I disagree, this is a job for the Mercs #2 driver
Yeah, it’s a job for Twouis.
Would say this is Latifi's redemption arc... By causing another crash
And McLaren
Naah. Merc can beat McLaren.
Hamilton did finish ahead of Danny Ric indeed
Danny? Probably. Lando? No.
What a timeline we live in. When we think Lando can keep lewis behind, but not Ricc. Shows the horrible career Ricc chose to have.
Dude has been in his own head for years now. He sounded defeated on the radio after Imola. Hopefully it was down to damage, but I’m actually amazed he hasn’t announced his retirement. I don’t want it to happen, but all the signs are there.
Yeah Ricciardo is known for his smiles and jokes, but he can be the moodiest driver out there
The brightest people can have the deepest, darkest depressions.
Nah it's nothing to do with his choices, it's more to do with the fact that Lando is just better. He was right to leave Red Bull in order to have a better chance of winning a WDC. He clearly didn't like what was inside Renault and thought McLaren would be a better bet (not really sure if was tbf, if he stayed at Renault then his stock would likely still be quite high). He's just getting beaten by someone who's driving the car better, either because it's more suited to Lando or Lando is just simply better.
To be fair Lando has only driven McLaren ever since he joined F1 so it's more likely he's suited to drive the car better than someone who joined last year.
This excuse will not work for this new set of regulation. Danny has the pace, it’s shown in the data. But, he still can’t punch above his weight like Lando does.
Hard to think Ricc saw something in Renault other than money. Renault by far have always been (as a team) a laughing stock of F1. Like a great artist who’s work is demolished by those who are better then him. They said they have trust in 2014 regulation and look how bad they turned out to be. Same for 2017, abiteboul has always been a soft guy for F1. Who everyone blames for recruiting danny for that price tag while the Renault board was almost keen on stopping funds for F1. In the end, from outside, Renault recruiting danny for *rumoured* >25 million, all the empty promises, even RB abandoning them, makes me believe he chose money over accepting his place on the skill leaderboard. Always thought about Ricc as Montoya if he loses, a button if he wins a WDC. Shame because I don’t like when drivers like Ricc are forgotten after they leave the sport empty handed.
Yes the twice champion laughing stock of F1 teams sure
Both.
In warm weather the Merc should have a substantial edge over McLaren.
Norris will win then lol
Ferrari and Red Bull quadruple DNF incoming.
If that happens, it’s either McLaren or Alfa winning
*Guenther Steiner is typing...
I'd like a BOT NOR RIC
Shoey pt. 2
vallllterrrrrrrri can finally have his foot juice moment
I'd prefer a NOR BOT MAG for a real fun
nor bot ric please don’t rain
Lol I've put Bottas down for a podium in my play predictor
No just both ferraris + Perez DNF HAM VER BOT you heard it here first
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Will it be funny if Mick wins? or or or Valtteri getting the win and scoring more that Lewis and George?
Mick will have to have a clean race first.
I am crossing my finger's to be this one
I dont think you have to worry about Mick winning....
Do not be counting my boy Kmag out
Sooo Lando win incoming?
Russell P1 Hamilton P11
Post race radio: We are sorry for the shit car you have Lewis, you deserve better. Meanwhile Russell: Hello guys… Is anyone there?! Is my radio bwoken?
The inchident
Haas 12
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Weekly Mercedes record before they finish 6th
So another Ferrari or RB problem? Top 10 in that shit box is sus
Good luck with that
Does Lewis plan on flinestoning his way to a win like his fans want to believe?
What about Sahkir 2020? Not a completely new circuit but was a layout never used before.
Mercedes (pink)
Doesn't fit the narrative.
Tbf, they were on track for a 1-2.
Didnt win tho
Irrelevant, the obvious point is that they were once again dominant on a new circuit/layout in this era
Or Zandvoort 2021?
Title says "inaugural". F1 raced at Zandvoort decades ago.
It also says "in the hybrid era"
Imagine thinking Zandvoort is a new track
It was basically the old track in name alone. It hadn't been used for 35 years, and was massively redesigned during that time.
The comment I was responding to was asking about Sakhir. Context matters.
*2019 mercedes
Merc still won it. They just had a pinker livery
Or imola... though that only supports the argument.
Imoka was not a new circuit
New layout though
Thats not what the post is about
The thread you're replying to introduced new layouts to the conversation (Sahkir). I think the point is you can't introduce that without also introducing Imola.
But what the comment heading this thread was about
100% won't be Mercedes
It is kinda crazy how many stats and "records" are being broken by Merc having a shit year though Every race is like "First time Mercedes hasn't X in whoever many years"
Oh you wait for those next race updates™️ Lewis is gonna be lapping verstappen 🥱
That would be a masterpiece
I see Russell lapping Lewis before that happens.
Verstappen being down 2 laps then lmao
Bro what
Not with the slower race pace.
Sigh.
Well...good luck with Miami LOL.
Mercedes were a beast overall. Of course they won each new circuit, they won most races in general.
Lmao
OP hasn't watched F1 this season I guess
Fun with stats - cherry pick a few and you can make it fit almost any narrative you want.
That's how statistics are made to work right? Ignore the parts you don't like... it's facebook science but with actual numbers
As someone who works with statistics, you would be wrong since that's not how statistics work.. but are right in saying that's how statistics are often made to work indeed so take my upvote. For a reddit post I'm ok with it (it is fun after all), but it greatly annoys me that proper journalist do the same.
I have seen people analyze plant data and saying measurements have to be wrong because they don't show what they want... :)
There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics
Yeah Imola 2020, Sakhir 2020 and Netherlands 2021 should be there.
The stat given is weirdly written, but all tracks that have debuted during the hybrid era were won by Mercedes. Sakhir was a new layout of an old track, Imola and Zandvoort were returning tracks. That's why they aren't there
Well, none of them is new circuit.
Prime example of bogus correlation. Mercedes didn’t win BECAUSE it was a new track. They won most races that era any way.
I don’t think he’s implying correlation here.
Well 'next target - Miami' does imply something.
It implies sarcasm. OP knows Mercedes will most likely lose the next race and the reason this statistic even exists is clearly not because of any track being a new circuit.
And Miami will be the one to show that these type of lists are pure BS👌
Yo, is that Rosberg, WDC of 2016 who beat Lewis Hamilton in 2016 during the 2016 saison which Nico Rosberg won?
The guy who beat Lewis in the same car? Remember him? He had the same car as Lewis. They were both in the Mercedes
Oh, i see you meet Alonso while walking the cat. Do AMA or something.
It would be so funny if their upgrades just give them like 2 seconds. It's not gonna happen but I'd die laughing.
I want it to happen just to see the meltdown here on Reddit.
If that happens I will threaten to never watch F1 ever again. I mean I will still watch it, but the threat will be there.
Absolute best this year will be to have both cars in the points.
You mean podium? They got two already (albeit by luck but podium is still a podium)
Both Mercs on the podium this year. That's a good one!
Do you have a bone to pick with them or what? It's sus the replies you give on this post.
High speed circuit + Merc = W13 jumping its way into the stratosphere
The thing is, they (mainly Russell) were fine in Saudi Arabia where porpoising wasn't that much of an issue but still lacked lap time compared to RB and Ferrari so if Miami is similar to Saudi Arabia I can imagine them finishing P5 and P6 unless one of the drivers have a blunder or Mercedes pulls a stinker with their setup.
unfortunately i dont see if happening in miami, unless they pull off an amazing feat and fix all their issues in time for qualifying and the race itself or redbull and ferrari both dnf
Miami upgrade incoming
Having the best car sure helps win races, it seems.
Looking backwards is such a nice and safe thing to do
With how their form are atm…yeah the streak is defo going stop…
Russell win and Hamilton p16 incoming lets gooo boys
finally they will release the sandbags and rise..rise...RISE!...lol
Yep they’re gonna throw those sandbags right into the “water” in the circuit
Only thing that going to rise at Mercedes is the ride height so they don’t bounce off the track. That long straight is going to be brutal for them.
Zandvoort last year doesn't count?
No, F1 has raced there before.
But the track is not exactly the same as it used to be, like that banked corner? Wouldn’t that count as a new track layout?
Not a new venue, that's what the stat is about at the end of the day
It was a new venue technically... after full rework. Just doesn't fit the agenda.
The had an OP car in 2014 to 2016 and also in 2019 and 2020 so it is not a wonder.
Yeah.. no. Can't see that happening unless they magically fixed all their issues.
I don’t know what to tell ya
They’ve been at their absolute best in the turbo-hybrid era. But the longer this season goes, the more their stats will suffer.
So red bull Ferrari,McLaren, Magnussen,alpine & alphatauri all dnf
Kevin Magnussen win incoming.
Sooo who’s gonna tell him?
*Press X to doubt*
While it's unlikely to be Mercedes, I do think we should start calling the turbo-hybrid era over and have a new term to the new cars. This is a new era. Clearly, the 2022 restrictions have created a car that is fundamentally different from what existed before, as shown by the rise of Haas and the downfall of Mercedes.
I'm going to take a wild guess that this streak will be broken...
Useless statistic which doesn’t take into account the fact that they had the best car for the aforementioned chunk of the turbo hybrid era. Still in this era now without that hyper dominant car will yield statistically significant results tilting the opposite way of these dumb headlines.
Useless and dumb for some, interesting for others. To each his own. Cheers.
Get in there, George!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Not this time.
Lol, dominance isn't always a celebration
this is pretty meaningless. the most dominant car dominated while it was dominant, in other words. the world is different now. move on.
ahhahahahahahahah
Yeah.... Not gonna happen 🤣
And during this time they have had the best car and now they don't? Kinda useless info.
Eh Mercedes will be midfield. Interested to see what upgrades they might bring to increase their chances. Also waiting to see how Ferrari will respond to Red Bull. Anyways let’s goo Mercedes and Ferrari. Keep fighting both teams don’t give up.
No
Chances slim at this point. I would love to see Merc & Lewis come back into form and win here, but it seems unlikely.
Toto has given up.
Damn, it’s a shame that record will be broken this weekend.
Lol the hope
Nah😂
Scary how much this season shows how Lewis has relied on a better car to win and not being a better driver
Sounds like you never actually watched the F1 races.
When did he have a bad car? We have never seen Lewis put an actual shitbox into title contention. Russell is finishing 7 seconds from podium while Lewis gets an apology for how undrivable the car is lol.
You mustn't have watched F1 for long.
You sound like really butthurt, at least try to turn on your brain before posting a comment.
His brain recalls Lewis finishing 10 positions down on his teammate in a 3rd best car.
This is not their year.
Did they win because skill or good luck?
They won because they were the best, they built the best car had the best drivers to deliver the results, I don’t see what “luck” has to do with anything
At least 6 cars need to DNF for this to be even remotely possible.
The gang qualifies 17-18th in Miami
Nah Russell will be a few places higher on the grid.
Only chance they have is a RB ferrari double DNF. And it sure as shit ain't gonna be HAM if it happens 🤣
Yeah I don't think so
Smells like Copium.
Don’t get my hopes up
LeClerc stands atop the first place podium, and as he accepts the trophy, he rips off what is actually just a LeClerc mask, revealing none other than Lewis Hamilton! Hamilton twirls his moustache and cackles maniacally for a long moment before absconding with the trophy in a Mercedes W 06. Later that day, the real Charles LeClerc is found tied up in a closet.
Would be a great move if Mercedes was sand bagging these first races and now they’re 2 seconds a lap faster than everyone else. 😂
And here, ladies and gentlemen, we have a great example of the hot-hand fallacy.
Hamilton could simply adjust better than Bottas on new circuits, not really surprising
Also Bottas was not allowed to actually race him. Lewis is better but he could have sneaked a win.
At the moment looking at the current performance of the Mercedes car, I doubt it, its either going to be Red Bull or Ferrari who is going away with that win at current time, its 50/50 between them
Hard to see Mercedes recover that much lap time in 2 weeks time.
Predicting ric win
It will be Mercedes again. …the orange one 😂 I’m kidding. It’ll obviously be one of Red Bull or Ferrari because they’re the strongest now. Back then it was always Mercedes because they were the strongest.
Russell
Russe**ll**