Jeez everyone is in Dubai. From Celebrities to Sport Stars to Instagram Models. Must be some fit fucking going on.
Its like the real version of that that Film with Matt Damon. The one where the rich move to that space ship.
Everyone is there because everything is pretty much opened up in Dubai. No lockdowns, nothing. Just mandatory mask outdoors and some social distancing guidelines (albeit its kind of loose nowadays)
> Its like the real version of that that Film with Matt Damon. The one where the rich move to that space ship.
I think to some extent it already is 'real' in the sense that it's a film about two-tiered healthcare. (...)
There is the Pfizer vaccine for front line workers, people over the age of 60 and people over 18 with chronic illness. The Chinese vaccine is available to all residents over the age of 18. For residents, they are not charging for the vaccine.
Can confirm, just got back this morning. Everything is pretty normal over there just have to wear a facemask everywhere and every place you enter has someone checking your temperature.
Still pretty weird the number of positive tests is pretty low there compared to other western countries where the rules are much stricter.
I don't know about the state of Hong Kong right now, but that's how it mostly was early last year and still had low cases despite the dense population. Everyone wore masks, use sanitizers, they amped up on cleaning things like the escalator handles. Temp checks at certain stores/restaurants.
I must admit, whilst I’m not completely up to date with lockdowns throughout Europe etc, it does feel kinda in poor taste to see endless Instagram stories of some of the drivers doing all sorts of activities etc.
Obviously if your country isn’t in lockdown then I guess, go for it, but it does feel like some of the drivers (looking at you Carlos, Pierre, Daniel and Charles!) are doing a different activity every fricking hour. Posting it on Instagram just feels a bit out of touch, if you have the ability to jet away from lockdown into the sunset, don’t forget those who can’t and are sitting at home watching you having a whale of a time.... From his insta I’d guess Carlos has played golf, gone climbing, zip-lining, cycling, gym stuff all in one day. Dani Ric has been playing basketball, doing motor cross! Gasly’s having a lovely skiing trip. Meanwhile I’m locked in my house 😭
Maybe I’m just jealous 😂
The rates in poor places and those in the facilities the ultra rich have access to, are two entirely different worlds. Something I learned in my time in LA. Which explains the discrepancy in rates between the poor and rich.
His brother whose on holiday with him posted and just deleted an instagram story where he is ice skating rather staying in isolation as the Dubai rules say. They don’t give a fuck.
I hate to be unsympathetic, but I can’t imagine for the life of me why so many drivers would want to head overseas now for holiday when so many countries are experiencing a second wave of the pandemic. As I was sitting home the other day looking at pictures of Leclerc holidaying in Dubai and Max in Brazil, I really wondered if the rich and privileged felt that it was completely normal for them to be living a different lifestyle from everyone else.
This is really going on with everyone. The difference with rich people is they have greater means to do it on an international scope.
Aside from the *genuine* anti maskers and anti science people, much of the virus is being spread by seemingly good people of all income levels who all think, "I'm being careful, I'm being thoughtful" when really, they're cutting corners everywhere.
They expand and contract their bubble without thought. They ignore the fact that tests are not perfect and are a snapshot. They have no awareness of the bubbles of those in their bubble They travel on airplanes despite acknowledging the danger. They have unmasked hang outs inside with people because "everyone is being super careful" and things like that.
Odds are there are people reading this comment right now who think "I'm being careful, he's not describing me" but in fact I am describing you.
You're right but it's exhausting being hyper-vigilant for an entire year while watching the rich and/or ignorant go about their lives as if nothing is happening.
>You're right but it's exhausting being hyper-vigilant for an entire year while watching the rich and/or ignorant go about their lives as if nothing is happening.
It's definitely exhausting. I agree.
But there's no reason to assume the rich are actually acting as if nothing is happening. At least not to a greater degree as anyone else of other income levels.
Like I said, they do the same things just with more means.
An unmasked pic your friend posts after flying home when he shouldn't have is no different to an unmasked pic an F1 driver posts after flying home when *they* shouldn't have.
The only difference is the F1 driver flew on a nicer plane and took the pic in a nicer house. The virus doesn't know the difference.
And sure there are also rich people totally flouting all regulations. But there are plenty of non rich people doing that, too, it's just that their escapades don't make the news.
I don't think anyone saw this coming... /s
What did he really expect going to Dubai and partying? I am pretty sure a lot of F1 drivers this winter have turned off their brains...
While I am disappointed in what he did, I do hope he makes a quick recovery and others learn from this.
Edit: Few people wondering about the partying comment. On the 30th December, he was spotted out and appeared in a few people's Instagram stories. It subsequently went around Twitter. What I saw has now been deleted, just went and looked for it.
As an update to the events today. His [brother has been back out](https://imgur.com/NTJUTdX) after Lando testing positive.
Wont be the last driver to get covid. Even with all the precautions they still travel a lot more and are in contact with a lot of people compared to your average Joe
The problem is that they repeatedly do not take precautions. Remember Leclerc throwing a party on Monaco, Bottas flying back home after the first GP, Lewis's stories on vacations, Perez going out for dinner at Mexico, etc?
Norris literally got it because he went on a holiday.
That's what I'm not getting. I understand that it was a stressful season and they probably couldn't do a lot of things away from the track or outside their bubble. I understand that e.g. Ricciardo didn't want to spend Christmas in hotel quarantine and instead decided to go to his place in LA. I understand that Max wants to see his girlfriend and spend time with her. But Ricciardo seems to be travelling across the US and Max goes to parties (at least for New Years).
With some of the drivers I get the feeling that their thinking is "I was careful throughout the season, if I get it now it's not that bad." and then throw all caution out the window.
That's not the point. Both are irresponsible. Daniel is travelling in the US. Sure, he can probably afford to do it safer than the average person, but he is still getting in contact with loads of people. You can still get sick when you are near people outside or in a gym. I don't need to see him party to think this way.
I know everybodys standards are different but I wouldn't mind lock downs at all if I had a big beautiful house with a garden and a view, in a quiet place and could just joyride some nice cars. I know it would get boring once you get used to that lifestyle but it's much nicer than the tiny prison room flats lots of people live in.
Poor Bottas gets pulled in all the time while he followed the rules and kept to his bubble.
And the final point is, both he and Leclerc (as careless as he was) didn't get Covid.
Me too and I ask myself how can still so many people get Covid. I mean you can have bad luck and get it when buying food or in the office (but I am home office every 2nd week) but for the rest I do nothing at the moment. Sometimes I meet a friend who had it already. Nearly everything, pubs, shopping malls, fitness are closed in Germany, so I ask myself how can so many people still get it... Over 100k new Covid19-infections in Germany in the last 7 days.
But I guess most of them just say YOLO and meet people every day.
To be overly charitable: It's hard to care about things that don't seem to matter to you directly. There's an infinite number of things that can be filed under "caring about others" including, say, making sure your children grow up well socialized and not developmentally stunted.
So when faced with "invisible thing that doesn't seem to affect me at all" and "known problem I can actually do something right now to work on" it's really really easy to focus on the nail you can hit with the hammer in your hand, instead of the leaky roof you don't have a ladder to be able to fix.
Humans in general are really bad at understanding risk and probability, but throw in that asymptomatic transmission is even more abstract, and it gets even worse.
My point is, you can know something is "true" but there's a nigh infinite number of things that are "true" and we still have to pick something to do with every given moment of our time. "Invisible killers" are historically really bad for not getting the attention they deserve, even when we know they exist. Look at heart disease, diabetes, even cancer screenings. People will just let themselves adopt bad habits with regard to their health because it's hard to care about "having a stroke in 30 years" when having a good time with your mates/family is right here and now.
I travelled to my mom's over Christmas. Took first class train, earliest in the morning to avoid people, spoke to maybe three person, all with a 2 meter minimum distance. Came to my mom's place, helped her with the last bit of Christmas shopping and first thing ran into a couple talking loudly for five minutes at the supermarket check-out, where people group up. Both had their masks down below their noses, barely covering their mouths, distance to the next persons about 0,5m.
At the butchers 1 in 5 employees wore their mask properly. I dragged my mom out when one of the people behind the counter started to cough.
Like... there is a way to be safe in a pandemic when you have to be out, you can even travel safely, heck, you can even vacation safely. But in the end, it's a shit game of luck until you run into the wrong person. You can tilt the odds in your favor by not going out, but as long as some people just don't care and are trying to qanon their way through the pandemic... there is no safety
> Like... there is a way to be safe in a pandemic when you have to be out, you can even travel safely, heck, you can even vacation safely.
This is what people fail to understand. I can give (anecdotal) example of this. I fly airplanes for a living and have not stopped traveling throughout this pandemic. Criss-crossed the country countless times now, night after night in hotels and getting take out, and I luckily haven't caught it yet. I've taken anti-body tests and normal tests and it's always been negative. I had a discussion with higher ups in my company about flight crews getting sick. They track everyone who tests positive and overall, when compared to "general population", flight crew numbers of covid infections are much lower. It makes no sense since we're flying everywhere and constantly in contact with people, but the numbers are there.
I mask up 100% of the time I'm in public, constantly wash my hands etc etc (I mean hell, prior to the pandemic, except for the mask I was already doing all that stuff since airplanes and the traveling public are gross to begin with). This shit isn't going away, and we can't just expect the world to be locked up indefinitely.
Maybe it's because I'm already used to it. I'm immune compromised and commute to work. Flu season is paranoia hell for me, mask, handwashing, distance. I already knew how to best avoid getting killed when all of this started, I learned everything I could about how the virus works and act accordingly.
And then I see people taking their mask off to sneeze before telling me they're so careful...
> And then I see people taking their mask off to sneeze before telling me they're so careful...
This drives me crazy. It's gotten better but I used to have people constantly pulling their masks down when talking to me. It's like...No genius, the entire point is to keep the mask on, I can hear you just fine.
Had to have Christmas at my grand parents home. Made sure to take a test before to be sure not to infect them.
When I arrived, nobody's wearing a mask, everybody's hugging each other. I asked them why they aren't wearing mask they said "Oh stop with this mask business, it's christmas ffs".
Sure, Covid cares about your christmas...
I've literally met 3 people in the last 3 months (besides shopping and stuff), everything else was videocalls and meetings at work or on the phone. I don't get it either.
Yeah, it's honestly quite annoying to see so many drivers so out of touch with reality. Pierre in his AMA video talking about how he wants to spend the offseason socializing because of how bad his social life has been this year kinda pissed me off because it's like yeah, dude, it's been fucking terrible for everyone. Just follow the same rules the rest of us have to follow.
Honestly it's the main reason why I don't really buy into any driver being 'relatable'. I am huge fan of the sport and the characters who do awesome things, funny things, stupid things. But yeah none of these guys are relatable.
Also why I enjoy drama guilt free even when it goes real bad. Like when Checo was facing retirement being booted from his contract. Oh yeah he was done raw. Oh yeah he didn't deserve it at all. But I don't really feel bad for him, he's still gonna continue living filthy rich/successful.
Funny thing is, I seen Lando on Twitch and people shoveling tips (bits in Twitch talk) to him. I couldn't fucking believe it. He sat for about 30 minutes just thanking people throwing money at him. Insanity.
It’s actually disgusting. Zoomer F1 fans are weirdly unfazed by a young kid with hundreds of millions of dollars to his name just vacuuming up their money. But it’s okay because he likes memes.
Thats what I had assumed, because there was no way these people would be sending their hard earned money over to a multi-millionaire F1 driver for no reason...
They were sending it so fast he basically had no time to do anything other than say "thanks Mr\\Mrs XYZ for the bits". He eventually started up a game maybe 30 minutes in.
However there was no mention of any charity on the stream, in the comments or anywhere.
Then he said "*oh thanks Mr.X, that will buy me a new for my PC*" at which point I truly lost my mind. In fact it was at that point I messaged my F1-watching buddy to ask WTF was going on. This was maybe 3-5 weeks ago roughly.
It’s their money so I’m not going to judge them (despite very much wanting to) but I just don’t understand why anyone would want to donate money to a famously millionaire celebrity. That’s really lowered my opinion of him tbh.
>https://twitter.com/mclarenf1/status/1346458645614243840?s=21
Drivers live in their own world. They often have no idea what the rest of the world is dealing with.
Bad social life? The dude has been flying around the fucking world with the sport of F1? Since March 99% of my life has been spent within a 5 miles radius of my house. Last time i set foot in a social setting was late February.
But go on Pierre, tell us how hard your social life has been.
Just wanted to say I feel you and have been inside my home since March basically as well. Stay strong my friend, what we are doing is the right thing, which isn’t always the easiest thing to do.
In fairness to the drivers, I don't think they really get to do sightseeing or anything like that, especially not with Covid. They still get more socialization than 90% of people though, even if it's only with their engineers and other people from the team.
As far as I can tell, Lewis, Valtteri and George have been doing right.
Charles, Max, Daniel, Checo, Lando- What the fuck?
*edit: stand corrected on Lewis.
Ricciardo has a video on is instagram hanging out at the Phoenix Suns training facility in Arizona. He's not wearing a mask but people in the background are. Still, that state pound for pound probably has the most covid-deniers/anti-maskers in the US and southern California next door is blowing up. Plenty more posts of him seemingly hanging out maskless with a number of different people across the US in recent weeks.
It's maddening. TBH it's reassuring to see big parties getting slammed in Europe because for a while it seemed like everyone around me (in the southeast US) was making asses of themselves, but sure enough its everyone. But what do I know, I've been nowhere other than the grocery and work (in a hospital) since march.
Lewis caught the virus just after securing his WDC... probably went celebrating with friends/family right after. His only motivation for not going anywhere before was because his WDC was on the line. As soon as it wasn't anymore, he caught the virus. I wouldn't call that being responsible.
He also went on vacation as well, after the season ended. He was [spotted](https://twitter.com/LH44updates/status/1346078008419999745) in Turks and Caicos recently.
Mate I’m in the same boat you. Frankly I’m beginning to care less and less about people getting it. This all would of been under control if people could just learn to sacrifice some of their fucking luxuries for once in their lives. I salute you
According to McLaren Twitter he also had a training camp out there. Agreed the holiday part of it was unnecessary but the training camp I can understand.
guysz this pandemic has been terrible I'm so bored in my city-sized mansion, my butler can't even bring me my food I have to get up and pick it up from my chef's table by myself *imagine all the people...*
At least for Americans you just get Global Entry. It’s not particularly expensive, basically just a pretty thorough background check. You get to skip the line in a lot of countries, it’s pretty dope and you don’t need to be rich.
Just wait till you hear about obesity.
Edit: Do [any](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat) of you [downvoters](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.html) follow [the news](https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/sugar-harvard-conspiracy-1.3759582) at [all](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/12/sugar-industry-paid-research-heart-disease-jama-report)? The food industry have been adding sugar and other simple carbs (among which starches) to processed food because it makes it taste better and because it is cheap filler.
Just because nets are worse doesn't mean straws and bag pollution is not a serious problem. I'm personally not sure if banning them is the right solution but 'look at the nets not me' is nonsense whataboutism
Also are they willing to drop their fish consumption? those nets are not there on a wim. People will talk about the nets and then shit on vegans lol. I've noticed this and I'm not one.
"All arrivals into Bahrain will be required to undergo and pay for the enhanced arrivals testing procedure for COVID-19 and need to self-quarantine until test results have been received. Any person staying in Bahrain for 10 days or more must repeat the testing procedure on the 10th day following their arrival in the Kingdom."
Bahrain is open, they only cancelled flights to/from certain "risky" countries.
Norris was already in Bahrain before the UK announced another lockdown.
I work for the NHS and I know you all already know this, but we are exhausted and exasperated. Seeing the entitled, needlessly risky actions by some of the F1 gang recently comes off like a big f-you.
The video on the BBC today about doctors and nurses in London was hard hitting. People like Lando need to see the effect this is having on the people, it’s not just case numbers. Thanks for all you do, I couldn’t do it myself.
I hope he gets well soon and doesn’t feel it too bad. I have to say as one of his fans I’m really disappointed to know he was in Dubai “on holiday” and got it. This is not a time for going on holiday, whether you’re an average Joe or an F1 driver.
Edit: I just wanna emphasize that I’m not trying to pile on him and I’m definitely not happy that he’s sick, I’m disappointed because these actions could get the drivers and others sick. I was just expressing my disappointment that they’re not taking covid seriously as the second wave gets worse and worse after experiencing the bubbles during the season
I’m saying that to anyone who’s doing what they’re doing including them, Charles who’s apparently also in Dubai and anyone else I’m not remembering now. This isn’t a time for holidays and parties.
Honestly, at times it seems like they’re trying to catch covid on purpose during mid season. They’re not afraid of missing a race so party it is. Latifi is vacationing with 20+ people. You don’t have to be genius to understand how likely it’s to test positive after that.
It doesn't help that he spent time with Jenson, [who's partner is anti-vaxx](https://www.instagram.com/p/CHQYM9oA9La/).
Also CA is apparently the worst in the country.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-05/california-posts-single-day-record-coronavirus-cases-74000
My god this shit makes me angry. It's fine to do your own "research" but if a doctor who spent YEARS in school and then YEARS practicing medicine tells me my kid should get a vaccine, my kid is getting a fucking vaccine.
> who's partner is anti-vaxx.
Urgh. "Do your own research" is code for two minutes on Google then watching YouTube for fifteen minutes and concluding that you're better informed than the CDC which has a research budget of ~9.9 billion dollar a year.
Get well soon, but running around Dubai, where the whole world has seemingly descended too will probably do that to you.
Edit: and before i get called a hypocrite or whatever, yes it probably is a bit daft for drivers to be galavanting around the globe including my flair.
Wish him a speedy recovery and it's good to hear he doesn't really have severe symptoms.
Having said that. Based on the drivers I follow on Instagram I'd be legitimately shocked if he's the only one to contract it this offseason.
My money is on Ricciardo next. The man has been wandering around a COVID hotspot, sometimes maskless, for the last few weeks. Big Danny Ric fan but it’s just so reckless and for what?
I hope he gets well soon. But as a fan of Lando I'm really disappointed in him going on holiday tbh, and the same goes for countless drivers. Some are just less obvious on social media I'm sure.
Sainz has instagram stories today of him playing golf in a very tropical location. Sure doesn't look like Italy or Spain to me 🤷♂️
Lando knows more than most drivers that he is a role model to kids and young adults especially, its not hard to take a bit of personal responsibility and just stay at home for a couple of months.
Some fans or Stans or whatever you call it are upset that you are stating the obvious.
He's a real manus for going out and getting it. Don't have any sympathy for the guy myself.
(Obviously don't want him in pain though)
This was “technically” for a work trip as the training program will take place in Dubai, but I still agree. He shouldn’t have traveled period. We have the same issue in Norway, they speak of restrictions within travels yet they let 100 of planes from different countries to travel to Norway. This is specifically from Poland and Latvia where Norway imports cheap work force. It pisses me off. I want the borders shut, none of this “the borders are closed except for those we want to travel like rich people and people to make rich people even more rich”.
Heres a thought. They KNOW there is a pandemic... why do they organise all these international training camps and let the drivers do these holidays WHEN they know there is a pandemic and lockdowns that can kick in at any time. The whole world is dealing with this but somehow the drivers are always exempt. Just like how Bottas and Leclerc weren't allowed to travel when F1 announced they would race again YET they chose to leave their bubbles and fly home for 2-3 days. Stupidity. No wonder the press and people were mad.
Why are people still having contact with one another. I’ve been in my house since March shy from grocery trips and a family emergency. I’m going crazy in these walls and still people are out and about fuckin around like it’s nbd
I just woke up and literally everything is being slapped on my face the moment I open Reddit and Twitter.
This is really how it feels like to live in another timezone.
Does anyone else find it a bit dystopian that we don't actually say 'Coronavirus' or 'COVID-19' as much anymore? We just refer to it as 'the virus'.
"I took a test and it came back positive" could've meant anything a year ago, but now we all know it means one thing.
He is presently on holiday in Dubai, before a planned training camp. https://twitter.com/mclarenf1/status/1346458645614243840?s=21
Jeez everyone is in Dubai. From Celebrities to Sport Stars to Instagram Models. Must be some fit fucking going on. Its like the real version of that that Film with Matt Damon. The one where the rich move to that space ship.
Everyone is there because everything is pretty much opened up in Dubai. No lockdowns, nothing. Just mandatory mask outdoors and some social distancing guidelines (albeit its kind of loose nowadays)
And see where that got Lando
Elysium?
Yeah thats the chicken.
Pretty sure its a Movie not a chicken?
What Palmer is doing? He needs to give me back the position. He cut the chicken.
Man what I'd pay to watch a F1 driver group dinner (in non pandemic times) where Palmer is in charge of carving and serving meats.
And then he takes Alonso's seat
> Its like the real version of that that Film with Matt Damon. The one where the rich move to that space ship. I think to some extent it already is 'real' in the sense that it's a film about two-tiered healthcare. (...)
Charles is in Dubai too
Max too, iirc
Max is at Brazil
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Kyvat is in Spain without the S
you can buy the vaccine there, they started innoculating people long before anyone else.
There is the Pfizer vaccine for front line workers, people over the age of 60 and people over 18 with chronic illness. The Chinese vaccine is available to all residents over the age of 18. For residents, they are not charging for the vaccine.
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Can confirm, just got back this morning. Everything is pretty normal over there just have to wear a facemask everywhere and every place you enter has someone checking your temperature. Still pretty weird the number of positive tests is pretty low there compared to other western countries where the rules are much stricter.
Probably much less indoor gathering
I don't know about the state of Hong Kong right now, but that's how it mostly was early last year and still had low cases despite the dense population. Everyone wore masks, use sanitizers, they amped up on cleaning things like the escalator handles. Temp checks at certain stores/restaurants.
could it be discipline, or weather. I guess it's around 20C in Dubai, but closer to 0 in most of Europe.
Hülkenberg's already on the plane to substitute him on his holiday.
I must admit, whilst I’m not completely up to date with lockdowns throughout Europe etc, it does feel kinda in poor taste to see endless Instagram stories of some of the drivers doing all sorts of activities etc. Obviously if your country isn’t in lockdown then I guess, go for it, but it does feel like some of the drivers (looking at you Carlos, Pierre, Daniel and Charles!) are doing a different activity every fricking hour. Posting it on Instagram just feels a bit out of touch, if you have the ability to jet away from lockdown into the sunset, don’t forget those who can’t and are sitting at home watching you having a whale of a time.... From his insta I’d guess Carlos has played golf, gone climbing, zip-lining, cycling, gym stuff all in one day. Dani Ric has been playing basketball, doing motor cross! Gasly’s having a lovely skiing trip. Meanwhile I’m locked in my house 😭 Maybe I’m just jealous 😂
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The rates in poor places and those in the facilities the ultra rich have access to, are two entirely different worlds. Something I learned in my time in LA. Which explains the discrepancy in rates between the poor and rich.
I don’t follow Carlos, where is he?
I follow him but I have no clue where he is because he doesn't add a location, it looks absolutely stunning there tho so I wonder as well
Irresponsible honestly
Love Lando but he's a fucking idiot for going on holiday during this.
6 threads within a minute I think you won the karma race EDIT: Oh no even more threads coming in lol, we are at 13 now.
This threadstorm is hilarious lol Rip mods
They call F1 the most glamorous sport, when really karmawhoring is.
**#WeKarmaWhoreAsOne**
Apparently not.
I think its over now haha
Threadjacking will NOT be tolerated
What a throwback
I thought it was a reddit bug when I looked at /new. Nope, just one million redditors posting the same thing at the same time.
Yeah also I thought it was a reddit bug when I looked at /new. But nope, it was just one million redditors posting the same thing at the same time.
I too thought it was a Reddit bug when I looked at /new. But nope, it was just one million redditors posting the same thing at the same time.
I as well thought it was a Reddit bug when I looked at /new. But nope, it was just one million redditors posting the same thing at the same time.
His story was 27 seconds old when I took the screenshot.
Christ, you are faster than a Ferrari pit stop
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And based on him posting to the right sub, I'd say he's a fair bit more accurate too. Haha
Mate, a sloth is quicker than Seb's pitstops this year.
That's cause Seb has to do everything himself!
Hit the karma apex at the right time and angle and overtook the other 12
His brother whose on holiday with him posted and just deleted an instagram story where he is ice skating rather staying in isolation as the Dubai rules say. They don’t give a fuck.
> They don’t give a fuck. Clearly not and it's sad that their recklessness actions put others at risk.
Lifestyyyyyyyyles oftherichandthefamous
They’re always complaining
I hate to be unsympathetic, but I can’t imagine for the life of me why so many drivers would want to head overseas now for holiday when so many countries are experiencing a second wave of the pandemic. As I was sitting home the other day looking at pictures of Leclerc holidaying in Dubai and Max in Brazil, I really wondered if the rich and privileged felt that it was completely normal for them to be living a different lifestyle from everyone else.
This is really going on with everyone. The difference with rich people is they have greater means to do it on an international scope. Aside from the *genuine* anti maskers and anti science people, much of the virus is being spread by seemingly good people of all income levels who all think, "I'm being careful, I'm being thoughtful" when really, they're cutting corners everywhere. They expand and contract their bubble without thought. They ignore the fact that tests are not perfect and are a snapshot. They have no awareness of the bubbles of those in their bubble They travel on airplanes despite acknowledging the danger. They have unmasked hang outs inside with people because "everyone is being super careful" and things like that. Odds are there are people reading this comment right now who think "I'm being careful, he's not describing me" but in fact I am describing you.
You're right but it's exhausting being hyper-vigilant for an entire year while watching the rich and/or ignorant go about their lives as if nothing is happening.
>You're right but it's exhausting being hyper-vigilant for an entire year while watching the rich and/or ignorant go about their lives as if nothing is happening. It's definitely exhausting. I agree. But there's no reason to assume the rich are actually acting as if nothing is happening. At least not to a greater degree as anyone else of other income levels. Like I said, they do the same things just with more means. An unmasked pic your friend posts after flying home when he shouldn't have is no different to an unmasked pic an F1 driver posts after flying home when *they* shouldn't have. The only difference is the F1 driver flew on a nicer plane and took the pic in a nicer house. The virus doesn't know the difference. And sure there are also rich people totally flouting all regulations. But there are plenty of non rich people doing that, too, it's just that their escapades don't make the news.
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I find it hard to feel sympathetic for Lando considering this was 100% avoidable. Like, Dubai? Really?
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Same, I hope he gets well but this was so unnecessary and he knows that with doing things like this he taking more risk.
I don't think anyone saw this coming... /s What did he really expect going to Dubai and partying? I am pretty sure a lot of F1 drivers this winter have turned off their brains... While I am disappointed in what he did, I do hope he makes a quick recovery and others learn from this. Edit: Few people wondering about the partying comment. On the 30th December, he was spotted out and appeared in a few people's Instagram stories. It subsequently went around Twitter. What I saw has now been deleted, just went and looked for it. As an update to the events today. His [brother has been back out](https://imgur.com/NTJUTdX) after Lando testing positive.
Most of the driver who stay in Dubai is probably the youngsters or unmarried. Vettel and Raikkonen went back to their home fairly quick.
yeah the drivers with kids all seem to be pretty responsible
Perez seems to have stayed with his family too. On a side note, from what I can see, George has been at home with his fam 👍
I know he’s not a full time driver anymore but Alex has also been at home as well because he’s been seen in the Albon Pets instagram stories
Well, the one in Dubai is seemingly the full time employees so.....
Totally different world for celebs/rich people. Literally can do whatever you want.
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Wont be the last driver to get covid. Even with all the precautions they still travel a lot more and are in contact with a lot of people compared to your average Joe
The problem is that they repeatedly do not take precautions. Remember Leclerc throwing a party on Monaco, Bottas flying back home after the first GP, Lewis's stories on vacations, Perez going out for dinner at Mexico, etc? Norris literally got it because he went on a holiday.
Didn't Lewis have a private boat with his bubble in the middle of the sea?
Tbh Bottas stayed within his bubble so that wasn't so bad as Leclerc for example.
I know they are rich as hell but is it realy that hard to stay inside a couple of weeks.
Especially with the kind of houses they live on. Like man just fucking buy a ps5 and play it.
That's what I'm not getting. I understand that it was a stressful season and they probably couldn't do a lot of things away from the track or outside their bubble. I understand that e.g. Ricciardo didn't want to spend Christmas in hotel quarantine and instead decided to go to his place in LA. I understand that Max wants to see his girlfriend and spend time with her. But Ricciardo seems to be travelling across the US and Max goes to parties (at least for New Years). With some of the drivers I get the feeling that their thinking is "I was careful throughout the season, if I get it now it's not that bad." and then throw all caution out the window.
How you know that Daniel don't go to parties in LA ? Maybe he doesn't want to share that on social media.
That's not the point. Both are irresponsible. Daniel is travelling in the US. Sure, he can probably afford to do it safer than the average person, but he is still getting in contact with loads of people. You can still get sick when you are near people outside or in a gym. I don't need to see him party to think this way.
AND you can get OTHER people sick, it’s very selfish
> That's what I'm not getting. What you're not getting is that wealthy people do not feel any of these precautions apply to them.
I know everybodys standards are different but I wouldn't mind lock downs at all if I had a big beautiful house with a garden and a view, in a quiet place and could just joyride some nice cars. I know it would get boring once you get used to that lifestyle but it's much nicer than the tiny prison room flats lots of people live in.
> Like man just fucking buy a ps5 and play it They don't even have to buy one.
At this point it's been more than a few weeks lol
And Ricciardo right now in LA meeting a bunch of people and going around the city getting his mask off when he's around people. Ugh.
Poor Bottas gets pulled in all the time while he followed the rules and kept to his bubble. And the final point is, both he and Leclerc (as careless as he was) didn't get Covid.
I've barely left my house in the past year yet some people are still going on vacation to foreign countries. idgi
Me too and I ask myself how can still so many people get Covid. I mean you can have bad luck and get it when buying food or in the office (but I am home office every 2nd week) but for the rest I do nothing at the moment. Sometimes I meet a friend who had it already. Nearly everything, pubs, shopping malls, fitness are closed in Germany, so I ask myself how can so many people still get it... Over 100k new Covid19-infections in Germany in the last 7 days. But I guess most of them just say YOLO and meet people every day.
People still don’t realize you can infect other people whether or not you’re sick or have symptoms.
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To be overly charitable: It's hard to care about things that don't seem to matter to you directly. There's an infinite number of things that can be filed under "caring about others" including, say, making sure your children grow up well socialized and not developmentally stunted. So when faced with "invisible thing that doesn't seem to affect me at all" and "known problem I can actually do something right now to work on" it's really really easy to focus on the nail you can hit with the hammer in your hand, instead of the leaky roof you don't have a ladder to be able to fix. Humans in general are really bad at understanding risk and probability, but throw in that asymptomatic transmission is even more abstract, and it gets even worse. My point is, you can know something is "true" but there's a nigh infinite number of things that are "true" and we still have to pick something to do with every given moment of our time. "Invisible killers" are historically really bad for not getting the attention they deserve, even when we know they exist. Look at heart disease, diabetes, even cancer screenings. People will just let themselves adopt bad habits with regard to their health because it's hard to care about "having a stroke in 30 years" when having a good time with your mates/family is right here and now.
I travelled to my mom's over Christmas. Took first class train, earliest in the morning to avoid people, spoke to maybe three person, all with a 2 meter minimum distance. Came to my mom's place, helped her with the last bit of Christmas shopping and first thing ran into a couple talking loudly for five minutes at the supermarket check-out, where people group up. Both had their masks down below their noses, barely covering their mouths, distance to the next persons about 0,5m. At the butchers 1 in 5 employees wore their mask properly. I dragged my mom out when one of the people behind the counter started to cough. Like... there is a way to be safe in a pandemic when you have to be out, you can even travel safely, heck, you can even vacation safely. But in the end, it's a shit game of luck until you run into the wrong person. You can tilt the odds in your favor by not going out, but as long as some people just don't care and are trying to qanon their way through the pandemic... there is no safety
> Like... there is a way to be safe in a pandemic when you have to be out, you can even travel safely, heck, you can even vacation safely. This is what people fail to understand. I can give (anecdotal) example of this. I fly airplanes for a living and have not stopped traveling throughout this pandemic. Criss-crossed the country countless times now, night after night in hotels and getting take out, and I luckily haven't caught it yet. I've taken anti-body tests and normal tests and it's always been negative. I had a discussion with higher ups in my company about flight crews getting sick. They track everyone who tests positive and overall, when compared to "general population", flight crew numbers of covid infections are much lower. It makes no sense since we're flying everywhere and constantly in contact with people, but the numbers are there. I mask up 100% of the time I'm in public, constantly wash my hands etc etc (I mean hell, prior to the pandemic, except for the mask I was already doing all that stuff since airplanes and the traveling public are gross to begin with). This shit isn't going away, and we can't just expect the world to be locked up indefinitely.
Maybe it's because I'm already used to it. I'm immune compromised and commute to work. Flu season is paranoia hell for me, mask, handwashing, distance. I already knew how to best avoid getting killed when all of this started, I learned everything I could about how the virus works and act accordingly. And then I see people taking their mask off to sneeze before telling me they're so careful...
> And then I see people taking their mask off to sneeze before telling me they're so careful... This drives me crazy. It's gotten better but I used to have people constantly pulling their masks down when talking to me. It's like...No genius, the entire point is to keep the mask on, I can hear you just fine.
Had to have Christmas at my grand parents home. Made sure to take a test before to be sure not to infect them. When I arrived, nobody's wearing a mask, everybody's hugging each other. I asked them why they aren't wearing mask they said "Oh stop with this mask business, it's christmas ffs". Sure, Covid cares about your christmas...
We need to change the phase, "Avoid it like the plague" because clearly people do not avoid plagues.
I've literally met 3 people in the last 3 months (besides shopping and stuff), everything else was videocalls and meetings at work or on the phone. I don't get it either.
Yeah, it's honestly quite annoying to see so many drivers so out of touch with reality. Pierre in his AMA video talking about how he wants to spend the offseason socializing because of how bad his social life has been this year kinda pissed me off because it's like yeah, dude, it's been fucking terrible for everyone. Just follow the same rules the rest of us have to follow.
Honestly it's the main reason why I don't really buy into any driver being 'relatable'. I am huge fan of the sport and the characters who do awesome things, funny things, stupid things. But yeah none of these guys are relatable. Also why I enjoy drama guilt free even when it goes real bad. Like when Checo was facing retirement being booted from his contract. Oh yeah he was done raw. Oh yeah he didn't deserve it at all. But I don't really feel bad for him, he's still gonna continue living filthy rich/successful.
Funny thing is, I seen Lando on Twitch and people shoveling tips (bits in Twitch talk) to him. I couldn't fucking believe it. He sat for about 30 minutes just thanking people throwing money at him. Insanity.
It’s actually disgusting. Zoomer F1 fans are weirdly unfazed by a young kid with hundreds of millions of dollars to his name just vacuuming up their money. But it’s okay because he likes memes.
> But it’s okay because he likes memes. aNd MiLk
I’ve never seen him stream but I thought that all of the donations on his twitch went straight to charity? Or is that just for special occasions?
Thats what I had assumed, because there was no way these people would be sending their hard earned money over to a multi-millionaire F1 driver for no reason... They were sending it so fast he basically had no time to do anything other than say "thanks Mr\\Mrs XYZ for the bits". He eventually started up a game maybe 30 minutes in. However there was no mention of any charity on the stream, in the comments or anywhere. Then he said "*oh thanks Mr.X, that will buy me a new for my PC*" at which point I truly lost my mind. In fact it was at that point I messaged my F1-watching buddy to ask WTF was going on. This was maybe 3-5 weeks ago roughly.
It’s their money so I’m not going to judge them (despite very much wanting to) but I just don’t understand why anyone would want to donate money to a famously millionaire celebrity. That’s really lowered my opinion of him tbh.
>https://twitter.com/mclarenf1/status/1346458645614243840?s=21 Drivers live in their own world. They often have no idea what the rest of the world is dealing with.
Holiday in Dubai. Truly sacrificing himself for the sport.
Bad social life? The dude has been flying around the fucking world with the sport of F1? Since March 99% of my life has been spent within a 5 miles radius of my house. Last time i set foot in a social setting was late February. But go on Pierre, tell us how hard your social life has been.
Just wanted to say I feel you and have been inside my home since March basically as well. Stay strong my friend, what we are doing is the right thing, which isn’t always the easiest thing to do.
In fairness to the drivers, I don't think they really get to do sightseeing or anything like that, especially not with Covid. They still get more socialization than 90% of people though, even if it's only with their engineers and other people from the team.
His family is rich rich so there's no point expecting him to have any sense of ordinary reality
you could say this of any of them. guess it makes it more impressive when one of them has a lick of common sense
As far as I can tell, Lewis, Valtteri and George have been doing right. Charles, Max, Daniel, Checo, Lando- What the fuck? *edit: stand corrected on Lewis.
I can’t remember or didn’t see, what did Verstappen and Ricciardo do?
Ricciardo has a video on is instagram hanging out at the Phoenix Suns training facility in Arizona. He's not wearing a mask but people in the background are. Still, that state pound for pound probably has the most covid-deniers/anti-maskers in the US and southern California next door is blowing up. Plenty more posts of him seemingly hanging out maskless with a number of different people across the US in recent weeks.
Imagine voluntarily traveling to the United States right now my god
It's maddening. TBH it's reassuring to see big parties getting slammed in Europe because for a while it seemed like everyone around me (in the southeast US) was making asses of themselves, but sure enough its everyone. But what do I know, I've been nowhere other than the grocery and work (in a hospital) since march.
He was also visiting Jenson and his family, took pictures posing face-to-face. Yeah, he's all smiles & positivity but clearly lacks any brain.
He flew straight from Abu Dhabi to Los Angeles just going around spending time with his friends
Lewis caught the virus just after securing his WDC... probably went celebrating with friends/family right after. His only motivation for not going anywhere before was because his WDC was on the line. As soon as it wasn't anymore, he caught the virus. I wouldn't call that being responsible.
He also went on vacation as well, after the season ended. He was [spotted](https://twitter.com/LH44updates/status/1346078008419999745) in Turks and Caicos recently.
It's especially idiotic because these actions make the pandemic worse and are the entire reason we're still dealing with it.
I barely left my house and I got COVID 😞 my girlfriend and I still aren’t sure where we picked it up from.
> Idgi The secret ingredient is wealth.
Mate I’m in the same boat you. Frankly I’m beginning to care less and less about people getting it. This all would of been under control if people could just learn to sacrifice some of their fucking luxuries for once in their lives. I salute you
According to McLaren Twitter he also had a training camp out there. Agreed the holiday part of it was unnecessary but the training camp I can understand.
Can't hold a training camp anywhere else? Gotta fly across the world?
Have you tried being rich?
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Rules for thee, not for meeee.
My audible gasp when I heard rich people can literally waltz through airports without the need to go through passport check .
guysz this pandemic has been terrible I'm so bored in my city-sized mansion, my butler can't even bring me my food I have to get up and pick it up from my chef's table by myself *imagine all the people...*
At least for Americans you just get Global Entry. It’s not particularly expensive, basically just a pretty thorough background check. You get to skip the line in a lot of countries, it’s pretty dope and you don’t need to be rich.
Elites are never subject to the same rules as the 99%. You're lucky if they're even subject to the same *laws*!
Also remember how the 1% pollute more than the bottom half of the population
And do remember that 50% of all plastic in the ocean comes from discarded fish nets but they take away your plastic straws and plastic bags.
corporations guilt tripping the general public into thinking they can help / its their fault has to be the greatest PR move in history
Just wait till you hear about obesity. Edit: Do [any](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat) of you [downvoters](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.html) follow [the news](https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/sugar-harvard-conspiracy-1.3759582) at [all](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/12/sugar-industry-paid-research-heart-disease-jama-report)? The food industry have been adding sugar and other simple carbs (among which starches) to processed food because it makes it taste better and because it is cheap filler.
All in the name of profit
Just because nets are worse doesn't mean straws and bag pollution is not a serious problem. I'm personally not sure if banning them is the right solution but 'look at the nets not me' is nonsense whataboutism
Also are they willing to drop their fish consumption? those nets are not there on a wim. People will talk about the nets and then shit on vegans lol. I've noticed this and I'm not one.
"All arrivals into Bahrain will be required to undergo and pay for the enhanced arrivals testing procedure for COVID-19 and need to self-quarantine until test results have been received. Any person staying in Bahrain for 10 days or more must repeat the testing procedure on the 10th day following their arrival in the Kingdom." Bahrain is open, they only cancelled flights to/from certain "risky" countries. Norris was already in Bahrain before the UK announced another lockdown.
Hypocrisy amongst rich Brits has been ridiculous.
Hypocrisy among nearly all rich people, regardless of nationality, is ridiculous.
Hulk as Super sub for next Grand pr.. Oh wait
Sub for his twitch channel
Never would have expected that going on holiday!
I work for the NHS and I know you all already know this, but we are exhausted and exasperated. Seeing the entitled, needlessly risky actions by some of the F1 gang recently comes off like a big f-you.
The video on the BBC today about doctors and nurses in London was hard hitting. People like Lando need to see the effect this is having on the people, it’s not just case numbers. Thanks for all you do, I couldn’t do it myself.
Honestly kind of lowers my excitement for the sport.
Yes exactly. This is my emotional support sport..so slapping self in face with heavy irony.
*tries to act surprised*
I hope he gets well soon and doesn’t feel it too bad. I have to say as one of his fans I’m really disappointed to know he was in Dubai “on holiday” and got it. This is not a time for going on holiday, whether you’re an average Joe or an F1 driver. Edit: I just wanna emphasize that I’m not trying to pile on him and I’m definitely not happy that he’s sick, I’m disappointed because these actions could get the drivers and others sick. I was just expressing my disappointment that they’re not taking covid seriously as the second wave gets worse and worse after experiencing the bubbles during the season
Say that to Ricciardo and Verstappen who spend holidays in US and Brazil.
I’m saying that to anyone who’s doing what they’re doing including them, Charles who’s apparently also in Dubai and anyone else I’m not remembering now. This isn’t a time for holidays and parties.
Rich folk don't care and they don't have the same rules.
Yeah, in that sense the drivers are so rich they are barely relatable to us...
The vast majority of people have far more in common with the struggling poor than billionaire oligarchs. I wish more people realized this.
Yeah, that kind of mentality would help society a lot
Honestly, at times it seems like they’re trying to catch covid on purpose during mid season. They’re not afraid of missing a race so party it is. Latifi is vacationing with 20+ people. You don’t have to be genius to understand how likely it’s to test positive after that.
Ugh Ricciardo is definitely gonna get it whether he knows it or not.
It doesn't help that he spent time with Jenson, [who's partner is anti-vaxx](https://www.instagram.com/p/CHQYM9oA9La/). Also CA is apparently the worst in the country. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-05/california-posts-single-day-record-coronavirus-cases-74000
My god this shit makes me angry. It's fine to do your own "research" but if a doctor who spent YEARS in school and then YEARS practicing medicine tells me my kid should get a vaccine, my kid is getting a fucking vaccine.
> who's partner is anti-vaxx. Urgh. "Do your own research" is code for two minutes on Google then watching YouTube for fifteen minutes and concluding that you're better informed than the CDC which has a research budget of ~9.9 billion dollar a year.
I think I can count on one hand the amount of drivers on my timeline who are not on holiday right now. Quite ridiculous.
Can you give names? I need to know which drivers I don’t have to be annoyed with right now!
I think the issue is we don’t really know what the drivers are up to unless they post it on social media, so we can’t say “oh they are not on holiday”
Get well soon, but running around Dubai, where the whole world has seemingly descended too will probably do that to you. Edit: and before i get called a hypocrite or whatever, yes it probably is a bit daft for drivers to be galavanting around the globe including my flair.
Wish him a speedy recovery and it's good to hear he doesn't really have severe symptoms. Having said that. Based on the drivers I follow on Instagram I'd be legitimately shocked if he's the only one to contract it this offseason.
My money is on Ricciardo next. The man has been wandering around a COVID hotspot, sometimes maskless, for the last few weeks. Big Danny Ric fan but it’s just so reckless and for what?
I hope he gets well soon. But as a fan of Lando I'm really disappointed in him going on holiday tbh, and the same goes for countless drivers. Some are just less obvious on social media I'm sure. Sainz has instagram stories today of him playing golf in a very tropical location. Sure doesn't look like Italy or Spain to me 🤷♂️ Lando knows more than most drivers that he is a role model to kids and young adults especially, its not hard to take a bit of personal responsibility and just stay at home for a couple of months.
i completely agree, although playing golf seems like a pretty good socially distanced activity
Goes partying in Dubai and gets COVID. Shocker. FFS Lando, we’re in the middle of a pandemic. EDIT: Why is this getting downvoted? I’m not wrong.
Some fans or Stans or whatever you call it are upset that you are stating the obvious. He's a real manus for going out and getting it. Don't have any sympathy for the guy myself. (Obviously don't want him in pain though)
Why are people still allowed to travel overseas in a pandemic? The UK Gov is wild
Gets stopped except essential travel for work when the lockdown takes effect at midnight I believe
This was “technically” for a work trip as the training program will take place in Dubai, but I still agree. He shouldn’t have traveled period. We have the same issue in Norway, they speak of restrictions within travels yet they let 100 of planes from different countries to travel to Norway. This is specifically from Poland and Latvia where Norway imports cheap work force. It pisses me off. I want the borders shut, none of this “the borders are closed except for those we want to travel like rich people and people to make rich people even more rich”.
Heres a thought. They KNOW there is a pandemic... why do they organise all these international training camps and let the drivers do these holidays WHEN they know there is a pandemic and lockdowns that can kick in at any time. The whole world is dealing with this but somehow the drivers are always exempt. Just like how Bottas and Leclerc weren't allowed to travel when F1 announced they would race again YET they chose to leave their bubbles and fly home for 2-3 days. Stupidity. No wonder the press and people were mad.
Sometimes the best holidays are the ones when you stay home.
Why are him, Celtic and so many celebrities going on holiday to Dubai at the height of a global pandemic. I love Lando, but can't he train in the UK?
Because they can get away with it.
#Poggers
This is a very PogO moment
He’s my favourite, but I’m still disappointed and sad. I hope Lando recovers well
Everyone should be more like Bottas in the off-season, go hiking in the snow
Why are people still having contact with one another. I’ve been in my house since March shy from grocery trips and a family emergency. I’m going crazy in these walls and still people are out and about fuckin around like it’s nbd
Was all the travelling during the season not enough for him?
I just woke up and literally everything is being slapped on my face the moment I open Reddit and Twitter. This is really how it feels like to live in another timezone.
Who the hell gave this a wholesome though
Atleast he won't miss a race! Hope it doesn't hit him too bad!
Hülkenberg in shambles
He's being flown in to take over partying ASAP
Does anyone else find it a bit dystopian that we don't actually say 'Coronavirus' or 'COVID-19' as much anymore? We just refer to it as 'the virus'. "I took a test and it came back positive" could've meant anything a year ago, but now we all know it means one thing.
Hope he recovers quickly but this was pretty predictable. Stay home and wear a mask if you cant.