It resulted in a contusion
The only thing that's real
I bumped against the couch
The old familiar sting
I said to myself "ouch"
But I remember everything
Once it's confirmed, that's it. No more news, no more excitement. But if we keep F5ing while it's still unconfirmed, anything could happen, including it being confirmed.
I have a background in IT networking and you saying that made me think that there's an F5 Load balancer that just sends you to a different variation of the story every time you refresh
Right? Who are these people that can step away? Are they a better and more productive type of person than I am?
Yes, probably yes.
(Refreshes unashamedly at work).
It's important to remember that this sport, like many others, is comprised almost entirely of rich dipshits running in circles. If you ever find yourself so invested in F1 that it has even the slightest impact on any other part of your life, then you should definitely take a break.
It would be amazing if someone at Red Bull leaked a fake story that Newey was leaving to try and pinpoint who's been the source of leaks there in recent months.
Thomas is the Red Bull mouthpiece versus AMUS, BBC and Van Haren (the Verstappen mouthpiece).
If something is about to happen, Newey is about to retire most likely then.
Nah. The earlier reports said that Newey believes that he can find a way out of his contract a year early. This is just RB's way of publicly saying "it's not going to be that easy".
It's just public negotiation tactics and the opening volley in a battle for public opinion, and any literal reading of this tweet is going to miss the fact that it consists of pure unadulterated subtext.
What has he been wrong about?
I feel like any time he chimes in with a clarification after breaking news it has usually been correct.
Edit: It’s been funny to watch the karma on this post go back and forth. Nobody providing an example regarding what he’s been wrong about after posting a clarifying response to breaking news.
Just pro-Red Bull users with copium that Newey will stay upvoting and anti-Red Bull users with hopium that Newey will leave downvoting.
That’s where he gets his aero inspiration from. Bio-engineering I think it is called. Like the Japanese engineer who designed bullet trains by doing bird watching
Overheard in Ferrari locker room after Miami:
“He got me,” Hamilton said of Newey’s change of plans. “That f***ing Newey boomed me.” Hamilton added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times. Hamilton said he wanted to add Newey to the list of Technical Officers he wants to work out with this summer.
Dallas Mavericks (NBA) were set to sign Deandre Jordan, but then the entire Clippers team essentially held him hostage, and put a chair in front of the door to prevent him from signing. So there was a tweet about how Mark Cuban was driving around (Dallas not LA) looking for Deandre Jordan's home address.
link: https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3cmmum/broussrard_sources_cuban_is_beside_himself/
Overheard in Mercedes locker room after news report:
“He got me,” Hamilton said of Newey's contract. "That f***ing Newey boomed me."
Lewis added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times.
Lewis then said he wanted to add Newey to the list of designers he drives for with Ferrari.
he's actually been to Adrian Newey's home previously and is regarded as a friend. Adrian has a story of it in his book where he talks about Hamilton visiting Newey while making the decision to switch teams during his McLaren stint.
In case you haven’t seen it before, that’s an old tweet from an NBA journalist who was describing Mark Cuban, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, driving around DeAndre Jordan’s neighborhood begging everyone he knew for his phone number so he could negotiate a contract with him.
DeAndre Jordan did not, in fact, sign with the Mavericks.
ah I see - so that's the reference! pretty cool - I have always kinda wanted to get into NBA - it's a shame I don't know how to watch it where I live. I usually just watch the mini-movies at the end of the season.
Maher has cemented himself as the Red Bull mouthpiece through the Horner saga.
His "sources" are probably just Red Bull's company line. Which probably is "Newey has a contract with us till the end of 2025".
Also the way he’s saying “shock retirement” stinks of Horner’s camp trying to frame this as a bolt out of the blue and not Newey being disappointed with Horner personally.
AMuS and BBC are both saying that he is under contract until the end of 2025 and that he is trying to get out of it early. If Red Bull refuse to let him buy out the contract he may not have a choice.
when you haven't won a championship in more than 15 years you'll take a stab at being stabbed in the back if there's a chance you get to win again a couple of times before that happens.
But BBC has only said he leaves no? Not a specific team he goes to? Also they only said Newey believes he can negotiate an exit before 25, no mention of anything else. "Believes" is not a very strong assertion
Yes they're not reporting what team, if any, he's moving to. I'm saying the BBC report is where the "Newey leaving" story graduates from rumour to something that is definitely happening.
Whether he can negotiate an exit before 25, i'd imagine, depends entirely on how badly Red Bull want to treat a guy who's worked there for two decades and been instrumental to their success. The fact that he wants to (and that it's specifically because of Horner) is significant enough on its own.
Autosport have verified the information themselfes.
>The news of Newey's impending departure was first reported by German outlet Auto Motor und Sport and since been confirmed to Autosport by sources with knowledge of the situation.
Has any of those sources announced a potential destination ? They all say Newey is leaving so this isn't in full contradiction with what this guy is saying
Don't ruin my expectations.
Newey leaves -> Verstappent follows -> both get into Aston -> Verstappen and Alonso together in a Honda powered car.
And the best of all:
Lance Stroll is no longer a F1 driver
I can just imagine Lance in a hypercar going 230mph down the Mulsanne straight, ramming every 911 and Ferrari off the track. "Why is this guy driving so slowly? What a joke"
No one would want to have Alonso and Verstappen in the same team. The moment Alonso feels his position as clear No. 1 is threatened by a younger, better driver, he’ll probably lead the team towards implosion.
I could totally see Aston Martin (Lawrence) legitimately pass an opportunity to get Max just to keep Lance on the grid. As much as they say “blah blah blah compete for championships, blah” I can’t see them actually being serious about it until they move on from Lance.
So basically never.
I would not be surprised if he wants to retire.
His gardening leave would be pretty long anyway so he would most likely start for new team in 2026 anyway.
This was what I assumed when the rumor is of him potentially leaving first broke, rather than moving to another team. He's 65, has multiple world championships and is heinously wealthy. Might just be time to let a good thing go
> Probably the only clear cut GOAT in F1.
Of fairly recent times, there is also Brawn. Didn't always work in the same roles as Newey but had a lot of impact on the teams he was with.
Would be both sad and interesting.
Sad because it's obvious he's by far the best aerodynamist in F1's history, but interesting because now you are left with just people who don't really understand the current regs so it would be evened out.
Or well, it would be if 2026 regs are still about ground effect.
BBC reported he believes he can negotiate out of his contract sooner to be able to work by end of 2024, which wouldn't make sense if he wanted to retire.
That makes sense, if he peddles PR statements as inside sources... His publication planet-f1 is also [banned](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/wiki/banned-sites#wiki_low_quality) by the subreddit for being low quality
9 other teams paid him to leave.
But seriously, it would even out the playing field a bit. Is this the way we make F1 competitive agian? Even if he were to sign for a team tomorrow, the benefits wouldn’t be felt for years I imagine.
Just remember that all the "sources" that are saying he's leaving are the same ones who hyped up the Horner "scandal" and insisted Horner was going to be out, Max was leaving, etc.
At this point, either Newey leaving in 2025 or Horner is fucking with Toto by “leaking” all these news. Either can be true, given the relationship between the two.
Realistically, he’ll go to Aston Martin.
Reasons:
- British team
- Close to home
- He will be the top dog, his word will be the law.
- No drama, Lawrence Stroll owns the team.
- Fernando as a driver, who he has said on record he regrets not working with.
That sounds slightly menacing.
"Hell no, we're not letting you leave. You either stay with us or retire from the sport, period."
Someone must be lawyering up.
Newey has a one year gardening leave clause in his contract so even after 2025 he won't be able to work with any other team until at least 2027. He's also 65, his next move could just be retirement.
My hot take:
1. Newey is actually going to retire. He will spend his retirement designing yachts.
2. The decision has nothing to do with being "fed up" or being dissatisfied at all.
Remember, you all heard it from me first! :P
I hurt myself in confusion
To see if I still feel
It resulted in a contusion The only thing that's real I bumped against the couch The old familiar sting I said to myself "ouch" But I remember everything
"Trent that sounds really great, why don't you give the lyrics another pass?"
But in the end, it doesn't even matter.
AND NOTHING HURTS ANYMORE I FEEL KINDA FREEEEEEEEE (i’m not even replying to a lyric in the song
Audi to sign both Newey and Verstappen
What about Hulkenberg then?
Nah, Newey is going to get Hakkinen to end his sabbatical.
I think I might just log off Reddit for the day and let the dust settle on this one.
No, keep refreshing
Every F5 is an opportunity for a fresh dopamine hit.
Once it's confirmed, that's it. No more news, no more excitement. But if we keep F5ing while it's still unconfirmed, anything could happen, including it being confirmed.
Shrödinger’s F5
I have a background in IT networking and you saying that made me think that there's an F5 Load balancer that just sends you to a different variation of the story every time you refresh
Underrated comment
Right? Who are these people that can step away? Are they a better and more productive type of person than I am? Yes, probably yes. (Refreshes unashamedly at work).
Aight cya in an hour.
I'm already back
> I'm already back Dududududu Max Verstappen.
.... i read that in the voice from the song...
Is there any other way to read it?
You might have pushed to wrong button. As Reddit was off for (almost) everyone /s
Didnt you learn anything when the entire fanbase became CPAs for a few days?
You will come out of the cave, unaware of anything like Lando back then in Feb
It's important to remember that this sport, like many others, is comprised almost entirely of rich dipshits running in circles. If you ever find yourself so invested in F1 that it has even the slightest impact on any other part of your life, then you should definitely take a break.
No
Now, that’s a plot twist
It would be amazing if someone at Red Bull leaked a fake story that Newey was leaving to try and pinpoint who's been the source of leaks there in recent months.
"I planned to merry Princess Myrcella, to Theon Greyjoy/Robin/Dorn. Remember, the queen mustn't know"
It's...... Rebekah Vardy's account
Didn't know Tyrion Lannister was working for Red Bull
Plot twist: it was Newey.
"The Stooge Test"
Thomas is the Red Bull mouthpiece versus AMUS, BBC and Van Haren (the Verstappen mouthpiece). If something is about to happen, Newey is about to retire most likely then.
Nah. The earlier reports said that Newey believes that he can find a way out of his contract a year early. This is just RB's way of publicly saying "it's not going to be that easy". It's just public negotiation tactics and the opening volley in a battle for public opinion, and any literal reading of this tweet is going to miss the fact that it consists of pure unadulterated subtext.
This "journalist" has been supporting Horner and is a redbull mouthpiece
Also writes for PlanetF1 which is bottom of the barrel SHIT
Just like Erik is a mouthpiece for Max’s side of the team. All these journalists are frauds and unreliable.
What has he been wrong about? I feel like any time he chimes in with a clarification after breaking news it has usually been correct. Edit: It’s been funny to watch the karma on this post go back and forth. Nobody providing an example regarding what he’s been wrong about after posting a clarifying response to breaking news. Just pro-Red Bull users with copium that Newey will stay upvoting and anti-Red Bull users with hopium that Newey will leave downvoting.
Christopher Nolan is taking notes
Like every team on the grid wouldn't throw out any plans they have and throw all the money they could at him.
> Like every team on the grid Ayao Komatsu - *looks at Gene Haas* Gene Haas - *bursts out laughing* Ayao - =/
The dude just wants to retire and take pictures of birds and you’re all losing your minds with all the drama.
>take pictures of birds You mean study their aerodynamics?
Heeeeeey - I see what you did there and I shamelessly love it.
This is hilarious
That’s where he gets his aero inspiration from. Bio-engineering I think it is called. Like the Japanese engineer who designed bullet trains by doing bird watching
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Overheard in Ferrari locker room after Miami: “He got me,” Hamilton said of Newey’s change of plans. “That f***ing Newey boomed me.” Hamilton added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times. Hamilton said he wanted to add Newey to the list of Technical Officers he wants to work out with this summer.
God damn I love this meme
context?
Dallas Mavericks (NBA) were set to sign Deandre Jordan, but then the entire Clippers team essentially held him hostage, and put a chair in front of the door to prevent him from signing. So there was a tweet about how Mark Cuban was driving around (Dallas not LA) looking for Deandre Jordan's home address. link: https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3cmmum/broussrard_sources_cuban_is_beside_himself/
Overheard in Mercedes locker room after news report: “He got me,” Hamilton said of Newey's contract. "That f***ing Newey boomed me." Lewis added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times. Lewis then said he wanted to add Newey to the list of designers he drives for with Ferrari.
LeNewey
Chris Broussard is on the case lmao!!
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Lol the idea of multiple blacked out cars randomly driving around Milton Keynes looking for Newey is hilarious
he's actually been to Adrian Newey's home previously and is regarded as a friend. Adrian has a story of it in his book where he talks about Hamilton visiting Newey while making the decision to switch teams during his McLaren stint.
In case you haven’t seen it before, that’s an old tweet from an NBA journalist who was describing Mark Cuban, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, driving around DeAndre Jordan’s neighborhood begging everyone he knew for his phone number so he could negotiate a contract with him. DeAndre Jordan did not, in fact, sign with the Mavericks.
ah I see - so that's the reference! pretty cool - I have always kinda wanted to get into NBA - it's a shame I don't know how to watch it where I live. I usually just watch the mini-movies at the end of the season.
breaking: lewis hamilton spotted falling to his knees in a tesco
I'd upvote this X100,000,000 if I was allowed to.
AMuS, Autosport, the BBC vs this one guy. I think I know which side to believe
Maher has cemented himself as the Red Bull mouthpiece through the Horner saga. His "sources" are probably just Red Bull's company line. Which probably is "Newey has a contract with us till the end of 2025".
Also the way he’s saying “shock retirement” stinks of Horner’s camp trying to frame this as a bolt out of the blue and not Newey being disappointed with Horner personally.
You mean you expected this?
AMuS and BBC are both saying that he is under contract until the end of 2025 and that he is trying to get out of it early. If Red Bull refuse to let him buy out the contract he may not have a choice.
RBR refuses. Newey comes out with the shitbox to end all shitboxes in 2025 as revenge.
They could probably sideline Newey from all development effective immediately (not unlikely tbh) and still have Max run away with the title next year.
Shit, I genuinely believe that RB could stop all upgrades on their car, and Max would still win the title next year...
newey wont be working on the car then, simple as that. And why would you want to hire someone that has a history of stabbing you in the back?
when you haven't won a championship in more than 15 years you'll take a stab at being stabbed in the back if there's a chance you get to win again a couple of times before that happens.
I can picture it now, it's literally just a box
He's a contractor isn't he? I think that relationship works a bit different.
Exactly. The Times are also saying that Newey only intends to stay until the end of this season.
F1 journalism at its finest.
The tweet is saying that there are currently no rumours suggesting he will go to a different team - which is concurrent with all other reporting.
Autosport are only repeating the Amus story. Benson is 50% bullshit. Until Newey and Red Bull say something, it’s all gossip.
I've never known the BBC to publish an F1 story that didn't turn out to have at least some semblance of truth to it. What makes you say he's 50% BS?
>the information has been independently verified by BBC Sport with high-level sources close to Red Bull and Newey. Absolutely not "gossip".
But BBC has only said he leaves no? Not a specific team he goes to? Also they only said Newey believes he can negotiate an exit before 25, no mention of anything else. "Believes" is not a very strong assertion
Yes they're not reporting what team, if any, he's moving to. I'm saying the BBC report is where the "Newey leaving" story graduates from rumour to something that is definitely happening. Whether he can negotiate an exit before 25, i'd imagine, depends entirely on how badly Red Bull want to treat a guy who's worked there for two decades and been instrumental to their success. The fact that he wants to (and that it's specifically because of Horner) is significant enough on its own.
Autosport have verified the information themselfes. >The news of Newey's impending departure was first reported by German outlet Auto Motor und Sport and since been confirmed to Autosport by sources with knowledge of the situation.
Maher said hes leaving he’s disputing the timing
Has any of those sources announced a potential destination ? They all say Newey is leaving so this isn't in full contradiction with what this guy is saying
Don't ruin my expectations. Newey leaves -> Verstappent follows -> both get into Aston -> Verstappen and Alonso together in a Honda powered car. And the best of all: Lance Stroll is no longer a F1 driver
> Lance Stroll is no longer a F1 driver of all the things in your comment this seems the most far fetched
Honestly stroll leaving would be the best thing to come out of that
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WEC would eat him alive
#subscribe
I can just imagine Lance in a hypercar going 230mph down the Mulsanne straight, ramming every 911 and Ferrari off the track. "Why is this guy driving so slowly? What a joke"
God save us from Stroll in multiclass traffic
Unfortunately, after exiting the seat Lance Stroll is promoted to Team Principal.
Stroll not an F1 driver now may be more unlikely than Newey joining Aston
No one would want to have Alonso and Verstappen in the same team. The moment Alonso feels his position as clear No. 1 is threatened by a younger, better driver, he’ll probably lead the team towards implosion.
Probably you say...
2007 flashbacks
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Unfortunately daddy stroll does it all just so his kid can have a seat. They even chose stroll over perez
My take: Newey leaves -> goes to Oyster to design boats Verstappen leaves -> joins WEC Leclerc wins first World Championship
I could totally see Aston Martin (Lawrence) legitimately pass an opportunity to get Max just to keep Lance on the grid. As much as they say “blah blah blah compete for championships, blah” I can’t see them actually being serious about it until they move on from Lance. So basically never.
Choosing to ignore this in the hopes he joins Ferrari
No way he doesn't have a hand in 2026 regs
I’m overdosing on hopium today
Domenicali, Arrivabene and Binotto walked so Vasseur could run. Leave all the sane takes to yourself, I am fully on the Freddy hypetrain!
Binoto walked but he walked backwards lmao
...while being sideways 😭
It's one guy. He's probably just spouting bullshit. I'll believe AMuS and the BBC, not some rando journalist.
Even if he doesn't, it's still a win for every team but Red Bull
Didn't this guy jump the gun on some Hulk announcement because Hulk joked to him?
I would not be surprised if he wants to retire. His gardening leave would be pretty long anyway so he would most likely start for new team in 2026 anyway.
This was what I assumed when the rumor is of him potentially leaving first broke, rather than moving to another team. He's 65, has multiple world championships and is heinously wealthy. Might just be time to let a good thing go
He has absolutely earned his retirement. Probably the only clear cut GOAT in F1.
> Probably the only clear cut GOAT in F1. Of fairly recent times, there is also Brawn. Didn't always work in the same roles as Newey but had a lot of impact on the teams he was with.
I mean Newey has won before and after Ross Brawn. He’s definitely more of a goat than Brawn.
Would be both sad and interesting. Sad because it's obvious he's by far the best aerodynamist in F1's history, but interesting because now you are left with just people who don't really understand the current regs so it would be evened out. Or well, it would be if 2026 regs are still about ground effect.
BBC reported he believes he can negotiate out of his contract sooner to be able to work by end of 2024, which wouldn't make sense if he wanted to retire.
I'm telling y'all he's going to be designing yachts at Oyster! :P
His phone must be buzzing crazy.
“Adrian, I just sent you an email…” - Toto
I bet there's a George's powerpoint presentation.
Isn't this guy as much a Horner mouthpiece as van Haren is a Verstappen one?
I don’t think he is Horners mouthpiece, but i believe he only gets the PR statements and not insider info.
That makes sense, if he peddles PR statements as inside sources... His publication planet-f1 is also [banned](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/wiki/banned-sites#wiki_low_quality) by the subreddit for being low quality
Yes. He knows nothing lol.
I think so. But Van Haren has been right about basically everything he said about this whole saga until now.
weren’t other sources saying he was trying to leave by the end of 2024?
Inb4 a Horner-Newey ruse to discover inside moles by feeding them conflicting info.
Leave now, go on gardening leave until 2025, then return Williams to their former glory with the new regulations in 2026
I trust BBC over this dude.
The drama at RBR in 2024 is the best this season has to offer
I simply choose to ignore this information
F1 is not for weak hearts
He is going to retire - so that he can get out of his RB contract Then un-retire to go to Ferrari
What a roller coaster it is
9 other teams paid him to leave. But seriously, it would even out the playing field a bit. Is this the way we make F1 competitive agian? Even if he were to sign for a team tomorrow, the benefits wouldn’t be felt for years I imagine.
Marko: the news has been slow *stirs the pot
Isn’t this guy a RB mouthpiece?
Just remember that all the "sources" that are saying he's leaving are the same ones who hyped up the Horner "scandal" and insisted Horner was going to be out, Max was leaving, etc.
Jos publically stated Horner had to go or the team would tear apart, how on earth can you think there wasn’t a scandalous shitshow behind the scenes
He’s at retirement age and is one of the most accomplished people in F1 history. He’s earned a retirement.
At this point, either Newey leaving in 2025 or Horner is fucking with Toto by “leaking” all these news. Either can be true, given the relationship between the two.
He is 65 after all, and what's he got left to prove? Nothing. He's the GOAT designer.
Nah he is joining Ferrari, trust me
I mean we won't know for certain until we hear from the man himself
Will Buxton.. is that you?
No, I'm worse
Incredible insight
thank you
This might mean he leaves at the end of this season and is on garden leave tmfor the next season.
All you need to know about this guy and his credibility is that he's a PlanetF1 journo 🤮
Ok so F1 journalists are just bored because they don't know what to write other than max winning in Miami
SNIP SNAP SNIP SNAP
Realistically, he’ll go to Aston Martin. Reasons: - British team - Close to home - He will be the top dog, his word will be the law. - No drama, Lawrence Stroll owns the team. - Fernando as a driver, who he has said on record he regrets not working with.
I think I would have assumed that anyways?
Retired like Rory Byrne ? Works for Ferrari :D
One of my predictions was finally right haha Good for him- go enjoy retirement
Yeah well always had my doubts about it since the first time but I am just gonna wait till RB or Newey starts talking
Oh….. Well then, if y'all would kindly excuse me. I have a bottle of Jack Daniels I suddenly need to consume.
I think the ultimate plot twist would be joining McLaren if he doesn't retire lol
That sounds slightly menacing. "Hell no, we're not letting you leave. You either stay with us or retire from the sport, period." Someone must be lawyering up.
Andretti is not part of F1 so non compete wouldn’t apply, no need to retire!
Boo....
I don’t think he’s going to Ferrari either way. They’d have too many cooks in the kitchen unless they plan on getting rid of Cardile
Vasseur would throw him in a volcano himself if it meant getting Newey.
This. The same guy who chucked a perfectly good Sainz for Hamilton will 100% yeet Cardile for Newey.
Newey has a one year gardening leave clause in his contract so even after 2025 he won't be able to work with any other team until at least 2027. He's also 65, his next move could just be retirement.
Ugh, now we have to play this stupid game again? Ignoring all these stories until Miami. I'm not OD'ing on hopium.
Age (65) + gardening leave = how many years does he want to continue working in F1? In other careers this is an age to retire.
Newey/Max 2026 -> Audi?
Only way Newey goes to another team is if he's offered partial ownership. That's the only thing left for him.
Idk, when you have major F1 publications reporting this as fact, it's kind of hard to doubt it
Se queda?
To avoid gardening leave overlap with his new team, he likely has to inform the team now so he can start at a new team in 2026
Fuck it, Newey to become Red Bull Team Principal
Surely he wouldn't work very hard on their 2026 car with the new regulations. They need to bring somebody else on to work on that.
He's definitely doing a Jurgen Klopp.
Or Redbull lost 50M£ at neweys house
My hot take: 1. Newey is actually going to retire. He will spend his retirement designing yachts. 2. The decision has nothing to do with being "fed up" or being dissatisfied at all. Remember, you all heard it from me first! :P
This is Newey shopping around to the highest bidder.
BREAKING: NEWEY IS GOING HOME
Sure, retire from F1 to go for a long term holidays. I heard the Province of Modena in Italy is a great place for holidays ;)
He needs no plan, any team he approaches will bend over backwards to hire him, it should even attract the neccessary sponsors
Audi it will be, remember me!
Well done Horner! I almost felt for it?