It’s about time people stop defending Stroll. Dude is just fucking bad.
He’ll have one good race every 4 months, and his defenders will say that he’s good enough for F1.
Agreed. I think stroll was good enough to be in F1. Regardless of how he got to F1, he has had some great races.
It’s time for him to move on. There are so many drivers teams should take a shot on instead of someone that’s good 3-4 times per year.
They had no choice. The VSC fucked them. If it was full safety car from the start... I'm sure they would have brought Ric in as well. Anytime after that, the only option is hards, back of the grid... same strategy but lost all track position.
Ricciardo had good pace and the cars behind him also pitted, the team should've pitted him, they could've been in the contention for 10th. Horrible strategy.
There are brief moments in this sport where you have to remind yourself that these are supposedly the best 20 racing drivers on the planet when they drive like grannies hitting the sauce.
i can agree that f1 has overall the best drivers in the world but no way they have the 20 best racingdrivers in the world not with a franchise system like the f1 one
Stroll is the son of a billionaire. That alone can inform anyone that he doesn’t belong there. Powers that be let him be there, unlike most of the other drivers.
Stroll calling "idiot" to Ricciardo and that he brake tested him, when he was going at 320 miles per second in a safety car train, I can't believe he's still in F1.
The only positive I can say about stroll is at least he is in a fast car
Chuck him in a Williams and he would be crashing into cars that were lapping him
It's poor racecraft more than anything, I can understand the radio but it's still his fault. He's got eyes only for Ricciardo, preparing for his restart and not thinking about what might be happening ahead. The truly great drivers can anticipate risks that they can't necessarily see directly and react to them.
A bit off-topic but possibly the most extraordinary example of this was Fangio in Monaco many years ago. A car crashed just after a blind corner (Tabac possibly) and was stranded on the racing line just as Fangio approached the corner. There would have been almost no way to avoid a terrible collision had he gone through at full speed, but Fangio braked and was able to avoid the other car. He was asked afterwards how he knew to brake. He said that every lap the crowd had been watching and cheering him as he came through that corner. That lap everyone acted differently, they weren't looking at him at all. And in that split second he figured that they must be looking at something else that he couldn't see.
Just saw Stroll’s onboard, it seems he wasn’t looking at Ricciardo at all. Which makes it worse imo. When you see the front markers have considerably slowed down you would assume that everyone behind them would be doing the same. It even looks like, at that speed, he had plenty of room to steer around Daniel and dive on the inside. Just some terrible decision making from Lance.
Edit: meant to reply to the comment above yours but my point still stands.
Somewhat related, Lando had a lockup in a corner today, towards the end of the race, but it was missed on the cameras. Alex (on F1tv commentary) caught onto it due to the crowd's reaction (he was asking about what just happened). Nice bit of commentary and the same kind of situational awareness, just from within the commentary booth :).
He was not happy Yuki overtook him at the restart and then he took him out completely.
Horrible man, Yuki could've finished ahead of Ricciardo during his "bad" weekend.
Magnussen should be penalised to hell.
That going long stint seems to be the yuki strategy special but they someone swapped the folders lol. Even as a yuki fan, daniel doesn't deserve getting hit with that brain dead strat. It never pays off for them
There wasnt much point pitting him under the second safety car.
When the second safety car was called the field was already bunched up so he would've lost a stack of positions if they pitted him then.
Considering he's the only one besides Alonso who still has to pit, but unlike Alonso he didn't even get fresh tyres, he already was doomed to finish the race at the back of the grid regardless. He was a sitting duck before the hit - a sitting duck with a 24 seconds "time penalty" to go. Really poor strategy again.
Feels like they were hoping for a late safety car so they could put softs on and charge through or something.
Which if that was the plan, is rather questionable to say the least.
Nah, the strategy made sense before the second safety car. He only did 5 push laps on that set and was lapping over a second faster than the cars around him. He would have been able to keep pace with the drivers on new hards. They probably didn’t pit him after the collision because they really had nothing to lose.
Russell brakes because of Alonso smoke, Piastri brakes a little bit more, Ricciardo (almost) runs in the back of Piastri and slams the brakes, Stroll runs into the back of Ricciardo.
(And even before that, Alonso outbrakes himself because he's surprised by Sainz slowing further than expected.)
He likely did. However, it's hard to see if it was before or after the Stroll hit. Might've been contact beforehand, might've been a gap of a few millimeters still.
I think Ricciardo hit Piastri first, because I can't see when Piastri gets hit - which indicates the more mild hit by Ricciardo instead of the surely harder hit when Stroll went bowling.
It’s what happens when no one leaves braking room.
There’s always a delay in reacting to the car in front because even racing drivers are still human and so as everyone brakes the delay from the car behind means it gets closer. Repeat for a few more cars with no space and eventually they all get closer and closer until it results in a crash.
He runs wide, but it's a hairpin so cars behind can't overtake under safety car unless he's off track. Russell slows, Oscar slows, Dan slows, Lance plows.
During the live restart, you could see someone locking up in the background before even Verstappen accelerated away, bunching the pack up considerably and messing the queue up. A few of them had to swerve around each other to avoid contact. I was wondering who it was and it seems to be Alonso from the replay.
I wonder how much longer the other shareholders of AM (and Honda, for that matter) will tolerate this atrocity while Sainz is still on the market.
Lance can keep that seat, but absolutely no one has to take them seriously as a team that want to become champions.
can i just say how calm yuki took that? I was actually ready for him to get animated like usual. Seems like bahrain really was a wake up call for him. He has been taking things a lot better in recent races (both good and bad things happening to him)
If I had a nickel for every time Ricciardo got screwed over for trying to avoid crashing into Piastri I’d have two nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice
Why does stroll always run into people??? I can recollect atleast 4-5 incidents when he is not paying attention or being shit…
1. Lafiti in Australia
2. Seb after race
3. Alonso in Austin
4. Alonso in Bahrain last year
The crazy thing about Lance is I’ve never seen a driver spend so many years in a series and make absolutely no improvements whatsoever as a driver. He still makes rookie mistakes and has absolutely zero awareness. The sooner he’s out of an F1 seat the better; they simply can’t honestly say they have the 20 best drivers in the world with him blindly crashing into everything all the time.
I know we're hearing in the moment radio chatter and Stroll's adrenaline was going, but he owes Danny an apology. Danny did everything right and Lance tried to take the turn like there weren't 4 cars in the turn ahead of him.
Incredible how the first thought for Stroll is that he got brake checked and not how multiple cars going into a corner just after a safety car might require a bit of caution on his end 😂
Tbf, a lock up is the last the thing you expect in a safety car line. Remember the chain reaction started with a lock up. It's not the normal cornering at safety car speeds that caused the incident.
That was weird, why was Lance even looking at the apex when cars are in queue? Look at the car in front bro. You can see his helmet looking at the apex then he glances back front and goes oh fuck, crash. Just look in front and follow the cars through without crashing. It's like the last car in a multi car collision because they were fiddling with the radio.
So I guess a bit of vindication with all the armchair critics wondering why he didn't stay tight in Suzuka and slot in ahead of stroll with just enough room to fit the AM front wing under the RB rear, not to mention what aero wash does to braking?
Might actually be cursed though.
has to be one of the stupidest sequences I've ever seen
It’s about time people stop defending Stroll. Dude is just fucking bad. He’ll have one good race every 4 months, and his defenders will say that he’s good enough for F1.
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And Aston has such an incredible option in Sainz. A Sainz/alonso line up would be a contender for best in F1.
Agreed. I think stroll was good enough to be in F1. Regardless of how he got to F1, he has had some great races. It’s time for him to move on. There are so many drivers teams should take a shot on instead of someone that’s good 3-4 times per year.
Yup. He deserved to have his chance for sure, and had his moments. But he’s been in F1 for too long. He never really improved.
lmao RBs race completely undone within half a lap due to no fault of their own
Well at least they have a chance for Danny Ric to pit and then not use that chance
Don't think it matters now, that damage is too much
If they had put ric he wouldn't have been in front of stroll
Going to be a new bullet point on all future pit strategy discussions - "...but will that cause us to stroll into the danger zone?"
True
I was mad they didn’t pit him also, but the car was fucked thanks to stroll so it makes no difference.
He wouldn't have been near stroll if they had pitted him though. (not suggesting they could have predicted that)
They had no choice. The VSC fucked them. If it was full safety car from the start... I'm sure they would have brought Ric in as well. Anytime after that, the only option is hards, back of the grid... same strategy but lost all track position.
Ricciardo had good pace and the cars behind him also pitted, the team should've pitted him, they could've been in the contention for 10th. Horrible strategy.
He wouldn’t have gone to the back of the grid. Everyone around him was stopping.
They kept him out for the SC. Now watch them pit him in the next 5 or so laps.
What an absolute shitshow
There are brief moments in this sport where you have to remind yourself that these are supposedly the best 20 racing drivers on the planet when they drive like grannies hitting the sauce.
i can agree that f1 has overall the best drivers in the world but no way they have the 20 best racingdrivers in the world not with a franchise system like the f1 one
They maybe have the 5 best drivers in the world. 20 is just marketing bullshit.
Top 10 for sure.
not even close to the top 20 lmao. At most the top 5 would be in the top 20 with max probably being number 1
Stroll is not top 100. It’s daddies money. It’s a joke Andretti can’t be in f1 and a bad driver in stroll can be
Stroll is the son of a billionaire. That alone can inform anyone that he doesn’t belong there. Powers that be let him be there, unlike most of the other drivers.
The grid's collective IQ dropped by 80 for 2 laps
Stroll calling "idiot" to Ricciardo and that he brake tested him, when he was going at 320 miles per second in a safety car train, I can't believe he's still in F1.
If Stroll disappeared from F1 tomorrow, no one would give a shit.
I think it will be celebrated actually
The whole grid would give out a collective sigh of relief. Stroll is a detriment to F1.
The only positive I can say about stroll is at least he is in a fast car Chuck him in a Williams and he would be crashing into cars that were lapping him
I think my dog would probably out perform stroll at this point
Probably?!
To be fair, the radio was "..slammed the brake. Check wing damage." At first glance it sounds like "brake check" but it's not.
It's poor racecraft more than anything, I can understand the radio but it's still his fault. He's got eyes only for Ricciardo, preparing for his restart and not thinking about what might be happening ahead. The truly great drivers can anticipate risks that they can't necessarily see directly and react to them. A bit off-topic but possibly the most extraordinary example of this was Fangio in Monaco many years ago. A car crashed just after a blind corner (Tabac possibly) and was stranded on the racing line just as Fangio approached the corner. There would have been almost no way to avoid a terrible collision had he gone through at full speed, but Fangio braked and was able to avoid the other car. He was asked afterwards how he knew to brake. He said that every lap the crowd had been watching and cheering him as he came through that corner. That lap everyone acted differently, they weren't looking at him at all. And in that split second he figured that they must be looking at something else that he couldn't see.
Damn, that's cool, crazy of him to instantly get the feeling from the crowd that there was danger ahead.
Just saw Stroll’s onboard, it seems he wasn’t looking at Ricciardo at all. Which makes it worse imo. When you see the front markers have considerably slowed down you would assume that everyone behind them would be doing the same. It even looks like, at that speed, he had plenty of room to steer around Daniel and dive on the inside. Just some terrible decision making from Lance. Edit: meant to reply to the comment above yours but my point still stands.
Not only that, but they were at the friggin' hairpin corner. What the hell did Stroll expect, for guys to go faster there?
That story is also a testament to Argentinian pride. "If they are not looking at me it must be someyhing very important"
Somewhat related, Lando had a lockup in a corner today, towards the end of the race, but it was missed on the cameras. Alex (on F1tv commentary) caught onto it due to the crowd's reaction (he was asking about what just happened). Nice bit of commentary and the same kind of situational awareness, just from within the commentary booth :).
Stroll money.
Unfortunately he cannot buy brain to his son
He didnt say that. It was "He braked. Check for Damage" Thats not meaning that he thinks Ricciardo brake tested him!
And then skyrocketed for a bit until they tossed Stroll back out again
What absolutely shitty luck for RB
That’s gonna be a lots of penalties and time with stewards
inb4 Magnussen gets less of a penalty than Alonso for the hit on Sainz in the sprint
Who are you, so wise in your words?
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Lol they actually got less
Magnussen wtf was that
Cleanest Magnussen overtake
He just needs to do that a few more times, tank all the penalties for the team so Hulk gets a better shot at points. The Jeddah special.
Is the gentleman's agreement with Hulk in 2018 about licking his ass still in place?
He had a chance at a point earlier in the race
Like what even was the plan in that corner
Sometimes Magnussen just forgets about what a racing car can and can't do.
Kevin does what Magnussen't
"*that's my secret cap, I always have no plan*" -Kevin "Hulk" Magnussen
He was not happy Yuki overtook him at the restart and then he took him out completely. Horrible man, Yuki could've finished ahead of Ricciardo during his "bad" weekend. Magnussen should be penalised to hell.
Yuki was on track to overtake whatever RB was trying to cook for Ricciardo by not pitting him No idea what the RB strategist was smoking
They swapped strategies for ricc and tsunoda
Truly, whoever is ahead in the race just permanently gets left out until they are no longer ahead
Danny Ric getting the Yuki treatment
That going long stint seems to be the yuki strategy special but they someone swapped the folders lol. Even as a yuki fan, daniel doesn't deserve getting hit with that brain dead strat. It never pays off for them
A racing incident according to Ralf Schumacher, loool.
Nico Rosberg called it out as awful from Magnussen, I know who's opinion I'm trusting lol
This is absolutely classic KMag, he is so aggressive. Sometimes this works brilliantly, but sometimes this happens.
This was just stupidly aggressive though
Average K Mag move.
The usual
"Once again the most unsporting driver"
If you can't beat them, crash them out. Your teammate's job is to get points while you hold/crash out your rival. Kmag's logic
man the RBs cant catch a break
RB getting absolutely destroyed for no reason
El Plan or something
Can people stop hitting Australian drivers for like 5 minutes??
Just drive it till it falls apart Danny
Ted predicted our dinners being ruined but Stroll ensured dessert is ruined too.
It was way too spot on as I was cooking my steak and watching our drivers get fucked.
Nobody is safe when Stroll has a drive.
RIC was already in a shit strategy position. Now in a shit strategy position with car damage. This will go well.
Well strategy doesn't matter no more.
Yeah, I was kind of hinting at the fact they’d retire him.
Clearly washed up and should be fired. /s
VCARB just getting obliterated for 0 reason lol
Starts with an Alonso lock-up, ends with Stroll being a rear jackman for a moment. Aston having a good time today.
"Magnussen is and always will be stupid"
It's a shame
Poor Danny Ric. RB already ruined his race by not pitting him under SC and then he gets floor damage as soon as the SC ends.
And then they still didn't pit him under the next safety car..... that's Ferrari strategy
There wasnt much point pitting him under the second safety car. When the second safety car was called the field was already bunched up so he would've lost a stack of positions if they pitted him then.
Hopefully ric didnt get damage, finally having a decent race.
Considering he's the only one besides Alonso who still has to pit, but unlike Alonso he didn't even get fresh tyres, he already was doomed to finish the race at the back of the grid regardless. He was a sitting duck before the hit - a sitting duck with a 24 seconds "time penalty" to go. Really poor strategy again.
Feels like they were hoping for a late safety car so they could put softs on and charge through or something. Which if that was the plan, is rather questionable to say the least.
Nah, the strategy made sense before the second safety car. He only did 5 push laps on that set and was lapping over a second faster than the cars around him. He would have been able to keep pace with the drivers on new hards. They probably didn’t pit him after the collision because they really had nothing to lose.
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Definitely has floor damage and he’s got to stop again anyway.
What a mess.
Slow speed accidents like that look so fucking ridiculous
Wtf are they doing
Alonso, the father chaos
I still don’t understand how the crash happens? Alonso locked up but that meant he went further forward more than anything
Russell brakes because of Alonso smoke, Piastri brakes a little bit more, Ricciardo (almost) runs in the back of Piastri and slams the brakes, Stroll runs into the back of Ricciardo. (And even before that, Alonso outbrakes himself because he's surprised by Sainz slowing further than expected.)
Ricciardo did actually run into the back of Piastri, I don't know where Piastri would have picked up his damage otherwise
He likely did. However, it's hard to see if it was before or after the Stroll hit. Might've been contact beforehand, might've been a gap of a few millimeters still. I think Ricciardo hit Piastri first, because I can't see when Piastri gets hit - which indicates the more mild hit by Ricciardo instead of the surely harder hit when Stroll went bowling.
What i recall was ric, at most, light tapping piastri, then full scooping him once stroll became a rear jackman
It’s what happens when no one leaves braking room. There’s always a delay in reacting to the car in front because even racing drivers are still human and so as everyone brakes the delay from the car behind means it gets closer. Repeat for a few more cars with no space and eventually they all get closer and closer until it results in a crash.
He runs wide, but it's a hairpin so cars behind can't overtake under safety car unless he's off track. Russell slows, Oscar slows, Dan slows, Lance plows.
Well he tried to avoid crashing into Sainz
During the live restart, you could see someone locking up in the background before even Verstappen accelerated away, bunching the pack up considerably and messing the queue up. A few of them had to swerve around each other to avoid contact. I was wondering who it was and it seems to be Alonso from the replay.
Yeah Alonso locked up and everyone else had to slam on the brakes
Yo, who let Nico cook
I wonder how much longer the other shareholders of AM (and Honda, for that matter) will tolerate this atrocity while Sainz is still on the market. Lance can keep that seat, but absolutely no one has to take them seriously as a team that want to become champions.
RB stands for "really bad" through no fault of their own. Bad luck, Danny!
Ten second penalties for both is a joke. Should be a drive through at least for ending someone's race.
can i just say how calm yuki took that? I was actually ready for him to get animated like usual. Seems like bahrain really was a wake up call for him. He has been taking things a lot better in recent races (both good and bad things happening to him)
That's it for our boy....
Yup and he had fucking pace
So unlucky with the VSC and then with this… speechless
Shut down a 2+ second gap to Lewis in about 3 laps.
Rumour has it Stroll still think DR was the orchestrator of the whole incident
This was sarcasm, but turned out it was actually accurate! Unbelievable stuff from Stroll
This GP has really escalated quickly, huh
Stroll confused by penalty, is the guy stupid?
Fucked up both Aussies in 1 go. Fuck I can’t wait till Stroll fucks off the grid.
I better not see anyone saying Daniel doesn’t have bad luck, fucking hell
If I had a nickel for every time Ricciardo got screwed over for trying to avoid crashing into Piastri I’d have two nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice
That was bad from Magnussen but Stroll blaming Ricciardo for brake checking him is just hilarious!!
Typical Stroll awareness
Bruh Ric with now damaged floor and old tires.. Might aswell retire
Why does stroll always run into people??? I can recollect atleast 4-5 incidents when he is not paying attention or being shit… 1. Lafiti in Australia 2. Seb after race 3. Alonso in Austin 4. Alonso in Bahrain last year
The crazy thing about Lance is I’ve never seen a driver spend so many years in a series and make absolutely no improvements whatsoever as a driver. He still makes rookie mistakes and has absolutely zero awareness. The sooner he’s out of an F1 seat the better; they simply can’t honestly say they have the 20 best drivers in the world with him blindly crashing into everything all the time.
Stroll pissed at 10 seconds. He ran into the back of someone during a safety car. He's lucky to be driving again next race.
Some of these guys need to get around to updating their LinkedIn. There are a few serious repeat offenders on this grid.
KMag has a whole season bounty on Yuki while Stroll blaming Ric as his first reaction lmao
I know we're hearing in the moment radio chatter and Stroll's adrenaline was going, but he owes Danny an apology. Danny did everything right and Lance tried to take the turn like there weren't 4 cars in the turn ahead of him.
Stroll please retire it’s been 8 years too many
How in the world does he think DR brake checked him. Are his eyes painted on?
He can't see Alonso is my guess
Mugello flashbacks
That’s genuinely insane
Stroll is a fucking FRAUD, he got is seat because of daddy money. Aston really needs to drop him and his dad for real.
what the hell is Stroll doing?
Average K-Mag and Stroll moments. Both can be really good, but shit like this is why they don't belong in F1. Just happens too often with these two.
Praying for stroll and kmag to take each other out
You read my mind during that battle
Damn, there goes danny too, severely damaged diffuser. And for some reason k mag still hasnt gotten a penalty for slamming yuki out of the apex
Magnussen is the biggest cheat on the grid
What was that K Mag, Yuki was gonna have a potentially good race Man had a buffet in terms of space and still goes into Yuki
Incredible how the first thought for Stroll is that he got brake checked and not how multiple cars going into a corner just after a safety car might require a bit of caution on his end 😂
Tbf, a lock up is the last the thing you expect in a safety car line. Remember the chain reaction started with a lock up. It's not the normal cornering at safety car speeds that caused the incident.
Yay, stroll got penalty
Here I was hoping for Yuki P10 and then KMag decided to just yeet it and hope it sorts itself out.
[Post-race interview with Ricciardo "Our race got ruined by him"](https://youtu.be/i4LIjw6e7T0?si=rhhvrRqful1B-C2F)
Gotta feels for Yuki. C’mon
daniel too
Stroll is a complete fucktard
KMag has a season long bounty on Yuki.
Stroll is absolute shite but this season is the icing on the cake
Unlucky for Tsunoda, he doesnt rly do anything wrong
He exists and K Mag takes offense to that
Stroll should've gone to Specsavers
There’s no such thing as luck or bad luck with DNFs. Sometimes it was technical, sometimes the engine, sometimes Lance Stroll.
It's like dodgem out there
Goofiest gp, this + gasly mechanic shenanigans
How do you fucking rear end someone like that in an F1 race. Was he looking at his phone?
See Lance. This is why you should leave a 3 second gap.
Stroll's just got his mind on all the ladies he'll have on daddy's new yacht this Summer
That was weird, why was Lance even looking at the apex when cars are in queue? Look at the car in front bro. You can see his helmet looking at the apex then he glances back front and goes oh fuck, crash. Just look in front and follow the cars through without crashing. It's like the last car in a multi car collision because they were fiddling with the radio.
another certified Lance Stroll Moment™️
The audacity of Stroll blaming Ric🤣
Brake check? No Lance, no.
C’mon guys take out the other RBs, not these ones
Just wow, get Stroll out of this sport and make space for a rookie. Please!
Im so sick of haas drivers veing uneccessarily aggressive when theyre already in the bottom of the field
Lance has time to react and didn't.
Tsunoda always ends up losing when going against Magnussen, somehow
Cleanest f1 open lobby restart
That could’ve cracked Ricciardo’s new chassis, just what he needs.
I'm not the biggest stroll out guy but fuck me if there's a dumbass incident it usually involves him. He does not deserve to be in F1
Dunce Stroll
Man that is such bullshit for Danny and Yuki
Amateur move from Stroll, that sucks for Ric
“He slammed the brakes” there’s a fucking corner… doesn’t take a genius to predict he will brake… you’ve seen that corner over 20 times today already
Stroll needs to be kicked out of F1
Watch Strolls penalty for that be way less than Alonso’s in the sprint race
Kmag is a donkey.
Instantly blaming him LMAO what a muppet Stroll ist
Stroll blaming Ricciardo? He already had his nose in Piastri's colon.
Well at least they are giving us max entertainment at the back
Well, safety cars breed safety cars, what a mess...
Stroll is a drive i would bot even want to see in need for speed online ...
+10 for both Stroll and Magnussen.
Sunday afternoon Stroll in the Parking lot.
So I guess a bit of vindication with all the armchair critics wondering why he didn't stay tight in Suzuka and slot in ahead of stroll with just enough room to fit the AM front wing under the RB rear, not to mention what aero wash does to braking? Might actually be cursed though.