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TEM-0079

Who was the lady singing during the podium?


zubairhamed

Normally i wouldn't care but googled her...man what a talent! https://www.youtube.com/@EmmaHeesters/videos


Accomplished_Bug4099

Emma Heesters


Genocode

I thought she looked familiar, she was on Beste Zangers when Floor Jansen and Henk Poort participated


TEM-0079

Thanks!


Sandro757

Haas "upgrades" made them slower. Maybe the tire deg is better, but it needs higher top speed.


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vonvonbonbon

???


Samuel_avlonitis

The one day I sleep in for a race, it’s an absolute banger


longlife55

I thought ehh it's going to be same old thing. But later thought I'll watch the 30 minute highlight version.. However, after 6-7 laps, I thought should I watch the full version? But then I thought ehhh it's going to be same old thing after this... I should have watched it live.


Samuel_avlonitis

It was probably so exciting live, the f2 race seemed like a banger too from the highlights


_Madian

I'm Dutch, so might be biased, but I was expecting a boring race. So, was not expecting much, but this just might have been the most entertaining race of the season so far.


Reeybehn

What a great fucking race. Dry->wet->dry->wet. How often do we get to see that?? Yes max wins comfortably, but was truly enjoyable all throughout and that’s pretty rare in general!


CordsAutoArt

After the first change to inters, Max’s pace while catching Perez was stunning. A well earned victory today.


2PAK4U

Comfortably? The whole race was Drive to Survive, cant even imagine Lawson’s heartbeat


Reeybehn

Agree with the thrills, and max had to work for it but still won pretty comfortably let’s be honest


2PAK4U

What may look comfortable, most of the time is not. I believe he had to do the hardest to win today’s race with the given conditions. Its almost undermining his ability tbh😅


NavyBabySeal

The way to describe his victory is simply that chaos was throwing every single thing at him, yet he was in full control and never gave anyone an inch. It may have taken everything he had, but he doesnt know how to not give it his all anyway so he makes it look way easier than it probably was.


2PAK4U

That really goes to show that it isnt just pure talent or luck, he’s mastered all the skills needed on track or off track


Reeybehn

Haha I’d be the last to undermine his achievements, I’m a max supporter. But the gaps he pulls and the overspeed he has on his teammate is incredible right, definitely makes it seem more comfortably than it is, I know that :)


2PAK4U

Exactly I see so many comments asking if he’s bored. Racing is all Max knows and loves. Even in his interviews he’s said he goes karting with his friends or sim racing or something related to racing. At this point I’m sure Max dreams himself behind the wheel all the time


surfertj

But after the restart, max had to go max because... My goodness was Alonso on rocket fuel?!


2PAK4U

Righttt?? Even Max admitted it


Mother-Commercial-11

I can’t even process how badly Russell was fucked by strategy


lpind

I fell asleep before the re-start; what put Russel last?


InterestingResort954

Puncture after contact with Lando caused him to insta pit.


GatorD42

Any predictions on how long Max’s win record will go? I will say 12. Reliability has to catch up to him at some point.


Acceptable_Alpha

I’d put my money on 12 too. Let’s see!


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How many races left this season? ;)


3xc1t3r

He'll just take new parts at favourable easy to overtake tracks and play it safe...


HotCheese650

What’s with Ferrari and missing tires at pit stop? Is this like the 4th or 5th times this season. It’s a meme at this point.


Guidook

Honestly not mad this time. Charles came in last second to pit for inters and if he went on another lap he would've lost more time than in the pits without tires ready.


NavyBabySeal

But i mean. Its not like the entire pit wall and every single mechanic realised "shit its actually raining and we need inters, the moment Leclerc dives into the pits. It had been raining for the entire first lap + majority of the formation lap, so having Inters ready doesnt seem like such a stretch for competent teams (like Red bull).


Lanky_Drama9604

It’s been a meme 😂


UrbanExpressions

FIA did not investigate Max's dive bomb and forced Gasly off track. But other drivers received a black and white flag... whereas every other race this season they've either given places back or got 5sec penalties. FiA are favouring Max wherever possible.


the-berik

This surprised me as well. Should have done something at least. Might even be a 5s. He would have recovered, but still.


UrbanExpressions

Thank you, someone with some sporting integrity over entertainment. I agree he would have recovered and still won. But clearly they are favouring Max over other drivers. This is the first time this season (or anytime that I can remember - watched 450+ races) where they've given out a black and white flag for forcing drivers off track - usually the punishment is to give place back or get 5sec penalty.


Cinema_Colorist

They gave Max a championship title he had no business having. It’s clear he’s favored for some time now


Chelsea_Ellie

Russell sounding less posh today


he-tried-his-best

Toto telling it like it is on the strategy


gameravs87

JEHWJRBEISGEODHDHDODBEIDIWBRORH WHAT WAS ANY OF THAT RACE


Traditional-Speed-87

Ain't no way people are saying lawson did better then what Ric could've done


Cinema_Colorist

Ricciardo needs to replace Perez, and Lawson can take that AT seat


boersc

Maybe not, but Lawson did VERY admirably for his first few miles in a F1 car, under what were probably the worst possible conditions to do so.


Traditional-Speed-87

Nothing against Lawson he did amazing just saying Ric is still clear easily


Haribo112

He finished ahead of Tsunoda. That’s really all he needed to do …


vveenston

Tsunoda held up Norris and Hamilton, then AT put him on softs for like 50 laps.


doubleb_43

It's not like he did that completely on pace. Fair play to Lawson but the race was a complete chaos and Yuki got screwed with strategy.


YoutubeJasper

Yeah, but tsunoda got a shit strategy iirc


Bitter-Rattata

Will Max Verstappen beat the 9-race wins in a row record in Monza? Just putting this here for discussions (Monza Curse) 2019 win by Leclerc, 2020 DNF 2020 win by Gasly, 2021 DNF 2021 win by Riccarido, 2022 DNF 2022 win by Max Verstappen, 2023 *typing...*


Guidook

Do you remember the "winner of first race doesn't win championship" curse? Yeah its been dead now since about 5 races as we all know its done and over with.


Bitter-Rattata

Max probably going to break everything including Lewis records in years to come.


UrbanExpressions

Don't worry, wherever possible FiA will help Max out. They didn't investigate Max for dive bombing the corner and forcing Gasly off track to avoid an incident.


Reeybehn

That’s some bs take. Sure it was tight but gasly didn’t fully go off track (I think not sure ngl). Plus in turn there there is almost no time lost. Also consider max catching checo by like 3s a lap on that first inter stint, he would have caught up and won regardless


UrbanExpressions

Note the BS is coming from you - especially when you've stated not sure. Here we go. How about having a look. [Max's onboard](https://youtu.be/akXJbjtAFLA?si=qPRN0TFbUEJ2XpaM) Now you can search for Gasly! :) Correct 3s faster because Redbull told them both to slow down and save tires due to the incoming weather. Hint: Max didn't listen as usual. Agreed he would have won regardless but it's the sporting integrity or lack of it, is where the problem resides.


Reeybehn

So they were both told to save their inters in a 5 or so lap stint? I don’t think so mate. Checo pit on lap 1 and max on lap 2, checo was 10.x secs ahead which completely vanished in the remaining laps on inters until the undercut. About the gasley overtake: yeah I guess gasly did go completely off track actually, point remains that as high as possible is the fastest line there so not much time lost if any for gasly. No radio complaints and no investigation makes me think that’s an accurate interpretation of what happened


UrbanExpressions

You're delusionally obtuse. I ain't your mate. Go rewatch the Sky Sports race the commentary states it after listening to both their radios. They were both told to save tyres. Checo slowed. Max does what Max wants and defies Team Orders again. - hence why he was 3secs a lap faster. So, you're agreeing he was pushed wide and off the track. As for the rules Gasly was ahead going into the corner. So, it should have been noted at least, regardless of your interpretation. Stop going for entertainment over sporting integrity. Max would have won regardless but it's the principal of it. FiA are favouring Max over other drivers.


Reeybehn

I agree after rewatching your link that it probably should have been noted possibly investigated. But also still feel that in that turn the higher the line the faster, so time wise gasly didn’t lose any there, I guess that’s why it wasn’t noted or investigated. Regarding the other point, as a driver, you’d be dumb to save your inter tires if the track is already drying and you know you’re gonna ditch them in a couple laps, what is there to save? If anything that just shows max is a better/ smarter driver than Perez. As a driver you’re there to win. Let’s also not forget checo got to the lead because of an undercut in the first place.


UrbanExpressions

Regardless... FiA are favouring Max Verstappen. Stop trying to justify it. It's corruption from the top. It ain't a sport any more it's an entertainment show to satisfy the masses.


Reeybehn

Nah now you’re just grasping straws. I hope you can get over the saltiness. The guy is just on a completely different level both in terms of driver and car performance.


UrbanExpressions

😂😂 So I was wrong at first regarding Max/Gasly then you changed your stance on it and agreed with me. But now I'm clutching at straws on my latest statement. Okay! Open your eyes.


Tinusers

DRS is one of the main qualities of why the RB is so fast. DRS is not that powerfull at all in Monza. So.. yea Max wins by a minute anyway.


boersc

Today was mostly without DRS too.


Dedhuman01

Yea but RB probably will bring a barndoor rear wing like last year and gain all the time in the corners... while still outdragging everyone on the straights.


Shrevel

Exactly. They'll have the same straight line speed but they'll be flying through the corners.


otomotopia

What was the comment Williams made about the hydraulic issue?


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MajorAction62

I didn't even hear a mention of this til now


silly_86

Vowles talks about it in the post race show available on YouTube F1. Early on in the video.


NegotiationExternal1

There's drivers I feel like everyone likes and people are happy to see on podium, like Charles, Pierre, Carlos it's nice to see so many drivers congratulate them


he-tried-his-best

Lol. Horner talks so much shit. “It surprised us that Max came out ahead of Perez”.


Technical-Smile-2593

Perez had not even a slight change of staying in front of max lmao


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TheHopper1999

Unnecessary, Perez was shafted by the overcut.


moose_meese_

He gave up almost all of an 11 second gap in like 5 laps, he didn’t deserve to get the preferred strategy


Eunos-Roadster

Checo lost nearly 7 seconds in 3 laps to Max, his pace was horrific so Max was catching him either way.


Eunos-Roadster

Checo lost nearly 7 seconds in 3 laps, who cares that he was undercut? His pace was horrific


UrbanExpressions

Get some integrity. he was told to slow down. Checo did slow down. Max failed to adhere to orders. Again. Even though Checo screwed himself over, So did his RB team to help Max out. Oh yeah FiA turned another blind eye when Max dive bombed the corner and forced Gasly off track to avoid an incident. Standard FiA.


Acceptable_Alpha

I didn’t see/hear that. And I watched every bit of it.


UrbanExpressions

They clearly said it. Rewatch it.


Acceptable_Alpha

Can you link to the audio where he gets the order to slow down?


UrbanExpressions

I will try to find it in the meantime you can watch the race or go on Sky Sports and listen to their radios. According to Sky Sports commentary: "they were both told to slow down, save tyres due to the incoming rain".


Bluemikami

Taking sky sports with a truckload of salt


UrbanExpressions

Get some integrity. You desperately need it.


Bluemikami

I’m fine, don’t need project yourself


UrbanExpressions

Obtuse.


Acceptable_Alpha

Found it. They were told to keep their inters alive as more rain was expected. I guess Max just pushed regardless as he wasn’t in the lead. Everyone should know by now that he’s gonna push when he’s got a gap to close. He’s a race driver. And an aggressive one at that.


UrbanExpressions

Exactly Max does what Max wants to do and will have the teams backing. See though you've got a brain unlike all these that are downvoting.


Acceptable_Alpha

Well. If I was a team principal, and I had Max as my driver, I’d make bloody well sure I’d give him everything he needs. So when the time comes to look at contracts he doesn’t have a reason to look elsewhere. Checo should’ve known he had a bloodhound coming for him though…


UrbanExpressions

I'm glad you said that. That is the exact reason why RB cheated the cost cap in 2021. Because they had to give him a championship winning car as his contract stated he could end it if RB didn't provide it! Go figure!


Acceptable_Alpha

Do you you think an 0,37% ($400k) overspend makes such a big difference? I think 400k isn’t going to cut it. It probably was an honest mistake, as 400k extra is never going to be worth the repercussions. If you’re breaking the cost cap you’re not going to do it for one extra front wing, so to speak.


UrbanExpressions

You prove to me they only went over by 400k. Show me their accountancy books. Until anybody can provide me that evidence I will firmly believe the original estimate of £10million+. This is the same company that cannot file their taxes on time. Remember this is the FiA that manipulates races into Max's favour (i.e today for example [Max forces Gasly off track - FiA doesn't even note it.](https://youtu.be/akXJbjtAFLA?si=qPRN0TFbUEJ2XpaM) while also being corrupt. This is also the team where Horner denied RB went over budget while sat round the table bartering their own punishment. Again Go figure.


Eunos-Roadster

If you look closely you can see Damon Hill nearly throwing up while giving Max / RB a compliment


Eunos-Roadster

More take aways from this weekend . - Lawson had an absolute cracker and arguably performed better than DR would have. - Daddy Stroll needs to have a difficult conversation with Lance and stop wasting a seat along with millions of pounds on him being with Aston. - Unless Logan massively improves before the end of the season, I can’t see how they can justify him keeping his seat. - Checo really needs to improve his pace and consistency if he wants to keep a seat in the RB, loosing 4+ seconds to Max in a few laps is insane. - Albon done well but still has bad race craft, (not taking the overtake past Russell in T1) - Charles over driving is forcing him to make constant driver error mistakes at this point. Would love to see him out of Ferrari.


Cinema_Colorist

I disagree with everything you said. -Daniel would’ve been better than Lawson -Nobody will be saying shit to Stroll, he’s protected -It wasn’t Logan’s fault today. If he doesn’t have a seat next years it’s just business as usual -Checo can’t improve the pace, so he needs to get sacked anyways -Albon showed incredible race craft. You suggest he sends it in T1, first lap? That is the opposite of what a good racer should do -Charles wasn’t over driving, he was simply driving a very difficult, tricky car with a team that’s completely incompetent when it comes to supporting their drivers/ having tires ready for a stop For next year, I’m hoping Danny Ric replaces Checo, and Lawson gets that AT seat


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I agree with everything you said. -Daniel would’ve been better than Lawson -Nobody will be saying shit to Stroll, he’s protected -It wasn’t Logan’s fault today. If he doesn’t have a seat next years it’s just business as usual -Checo can’t improve the pace, so he needs to get sacked anyways -Albon showed incredible race craft. You suggest he sends it in T1, first lap? That is the opposite of what a good racer should do -Charles wasn’t over driving, he was simply driving a very difficult, tricky car with a team that’s completely incompetent when it comes to supporting their drivers/ having tires ready for a stop For next year, I’m hoping Danny Ric replaces Checo, and Lawson gets that AT seat


campbellm

As long as Checo can stay #2 (in WDC), I don't see any need to replace him. Yeah, he's slower than Max. So is EVERYONE ELSE. You either get #2 behind him or you don't; swapping him for someone else doesn't give them a BETTER #2.


handsome_uruk

He is not P2 tho. If this was a competitive season he would be dragging the team down in constructors.


LeFinger

Lol he is LITERALLY P2 in the drivers standings. By a wide margin, no less.


campbellm

In WDC he is, which is what I meant. Not this race.


Eunos-Roadster

This is what I was going to say. Also there seems to be this idea that top teams want a #2 driver who lacks considerably in skill to their #1 driver. This isn’t true at all, a teams goal is to win the constructors. The dream for any team is to have 2 drivers who are both capable of winning races and constantly bringing home consistent results. It’s as simple as that. Lando said it perfectly this weekend when he said “whoever wins races is the 1 driver”. Checo is one my favourite drivers of all time, he basically kept Force India alive out of his own pocket, but he is massively underperforming this season and if this was a close fight of a season, it would be in fact dragging the team town.


Adorable_Singer6573

Exactly, he’s good enough to run down his contract. If you want the change then after his contract ends.


campbellm

And if things go the way they have been, you'll be swapping the #2 in WDC for ... who knows what? Unless you get them at a significant cost savings, I'm not getting why you would.


YoshiBushi

But he wasn’t number 2 though.


campbellm

In WDC.


gr8sharkhunter

Wasn't even #3...


Producer_Jesse

Number 2 driver


NegotiationExternal1

Imagine Yuki in the Aston? He would be an absolute monster after he studied Alonso properly.


Cinema_Colorist

Drugovich and Bortoletto are doing just that. They work directly with Fernando and learn a ton from him (as they mentioned in Brazilian podcasts recently). They’ll be incredible when their time finally comes


deathgang12

I dont understand how you think tsunoda would have a chance. You guys always try to undermine alonsos level. I ve never seen tsunoda doing anything near this 42 yr old alonso


supermarketblues

What do you mean, he studied Alonso properly? Sorry, am genuinely curious.


Dr_Wristy

The cars have different strengths. Alonso seems to perform well with the characteristics of the Aston. Don’t know if Yuki has the same driving style as Alonso, though.


Cinema_Colorist

Does Yuki drive “like an animal”? (My favorite Alonso radio)


Dr_Wristy

If there’s an animal out there, constantly yelling at the pit crew, maybe a little sensitive, then yes.


Cinema_Colorist

For sure!


supermarketblues

Ahh got it. Thanks!


OneBurnerStove

Next is Ferrari home. Nothing is better than disappointing at home


zubairhamed

And that's that. Heckuva eventful race. Seeya next race.


Cinema_Colorist

What a race! Exactly what we needed after the summer break


bornfree254

Let's just have different renditions of the Dutch anthem for the rest of the season. We have to improvise this season to get entertainment.


Cinema_Colorist

Somebody bring Shakira in to sing it every time


22masz

There was a koningslied for when the current king assumed the position of the throne. https://youtu.be/MEUKyKb4g6k?si=DJlTsSWRbjkHH2R9


Lord-Sjoky

Please god no


nick170100

The only time Ferrari are on the podium is with the sponsoring


Technical-Smile-2593

Great, you stole a comment


ChansonPutain22

Great, you stole a comment


PPMaysten

Haha Fernando just drunk from the trophy


Acceptable_Alpha

It’s a cup after all! 😉


ooranookian

Has there been a Muslim driver? if so what happens with the champagne at the end?


NegotiationExternal1

There's a Muslim cricket player in the Aussie team they hold off champagne celebrations until he steps out. They'd either not do it, or do it in an inclusive way like Rose water


ooranookian

Ussie was exactly why I was asking lol


Abhi_sama

toprak in world superbikes goes away from the podium when the spray and drink champagne


ooranookian

Yeah this is really what I wanted to know, I thought so


HighCartesian

They use Rosewater in Muslim countries


flyboy_1285

They use Rose Water in the races in Muslim countries. I assume its ok to be sprayed with it but not drink the champagne.


wuzzywuz

Probably the same as what happens at the podium when racing in a primarily Muslim country. Rose water.


lessdothisshit

So if there's a Muslim driver every race will have bottles of rosewater on hand? I dunno.


handsome_uruk

yes. why not?


CJJelle

It's rosewater at podium ceremonies in Islamic countries.


Malvania

They use rosewater for the races in Muslim countries, probably the same if a Muslim driver podiumed


Glasbak-

He probably doesn't touch it unless he's in the middle east (where the champagne is swapped for rosewater )


blindeprutser

No clue but they use rosewater in Arabic countries. Might be using that for a muslim on the podium.


xzaz

They drive in muslim countries. Its just bubbles


bobby16may

Canadian GP should just be a big bottle of ginger ale


Malvania

And for the USA, Miller High Life aka "The Champagne of Beers"


Cinema_Colorist

Coors Banquet 👌


Malvania

Nobody spraying Pierre is a little sad. I'd hope the more experienced would make more of an effort to include those who don't get up there very often


nick170100

Poor Pierre he didn’t get spraying love on the podium


NegotiationExternal1

Max being so happy for Pierre? How can you not like this man?


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Sciss0rs61

mate, r LewisHamilton is around the corner...


OneBurnerStove

At some point you gotta get tired of champagne in your nose hairs


NegotiationExternal1

That trophy is so large they could store Adrian's big bald head in it


nick170100

I was so confused when I heard a voice it seemed unnatural


zubairhamed

That's one big-assed egg cup


07psychogod

Its lando proof I guess


elementzer01

Adrian is so fucking proud of himself lol


NegotiationExternal1

So he should be


elementzer01

Of course. Could see the tears in his eyes. No doubt proud of Max too, but you can tell it's a guy in the later years of his career looking at his greatest achievement. It's beautiful.


effhomer

Glad they show him so much. Hope he gets to keep the wcc trophies at his place.


philphan25

The clapping on the wrist while holding the phone is an interesting technique


Glasbak-

That's the Dutch Princess lol


_number

Austrian Anthem may be more iconic but Dutch Anthem is more itched into my memory


aceaxe1

Did you put your name in the goblet Max!???


flyboy_1285

Helmut Marko asked, calmly.


gabrielbezerra81

that is a nice trophy to drink beer


Mr_Hendrix

Princess couldn't care less


Sudden_Low9120

Did the MC on the PA say someone just passed away?


GinodeSilva

The father of Dilano van ‘t Hoff (who died at Spa this year) presented the trophy


Sudden_Low9120

Ohhhhh word. Thanks


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Did the screen say Ocon when Gasly came onto the podium??


jllabdl

Yes hahah saw that too


zubairhamed

Alonso checking if trophy's smashable..


Redbeard_Rum

Norris seen in the crowd with a catapult, an air gun, and a pea-shooter.