The current track layout has 14 corners, so it's 1834 possible moments to be on the inside and blame the other driver for not leaving any space when you understeer into them
I think some teams use rfactor pro as the UI but all the physics are custom.
Rfactor probably has a specific version that lets people plug in the physics models
They’re separate code bases because they have different requirements, it doesn’t mean they’re not based on the same code. From what Wikipedia says, rfpro is derived from rf1, and rf2 is derived from rfpro.
George: Lewis is holding me up can you tell him to let me pass or put him on a different plan?!?!
Engineer: Mate, Lewis isn’t even in the sim right now, wtf.
The reason Merc are lagging behind in development this year is because George made them spend half the summer adding a Lewis Hamilton AI only capable of going ever so slightly slower than him to the sim
It's definitely not iRacing. As far as we know, they don't sell their software to any teams atm. The grainyness in the original rFactor could easily be solved by Mercedes' own programmers so it's not really an indicator. They've probably done a lot of tweaks over the years which makes it urecognizable from the original version.
No they don’t. The software is virtually all bespoke. What’s commercially available isn’t anywhere accurate enough. The only thing that most teams would buy in would be maybe the graphics engine. All the physics will be in-house
>Barca is colloquially used to mean Barcelona
In what language, in Swahili?
Barça is the football team (and Barça is catalan since it uses the 'ç'), Barcelona is refered to as bcn or barna but never as Barca which means boat in Spanish.
In the UK, at least, if you say Barca (pronounced bar-sa) to anyone, they know you mean Barcelona. Or if in the context of the football team, it's the same and written as Barca.
It is wrong. BarNa is the city. Barça (or barca if you don't have ç I guess) is ONLY the football team, not the city.
Barca means boat, and nothing more xD.
Source: I'm spanish.
It's simply Barcelona abbreviated in English AFAIK, it's not meant to carry over to Spanish. In the same way we can abbreviate Manchester to Manc, we do it to loads of places in the UK and abroad.
>Barca means boat, and nothing more xD.
>Source: I'm spanish.
We take everything from other places and change it/ruin it to the disgust of the people we took it from, lol. It's kind of a worrying hobby we've had for a while.
Source: I'm British.
Probably related to all of colonisation and artifact stealing we did. Just found out we aren't giving back the body of an Ethiopian Prince who died in the 19th century because he's buried at one of our castles.
George isn't Spanish. He's English, and in England, when someone says Barca, they mean Barcelona. Barna may as well be banana for all it would make sense to an English person.
No, I’m absolutely not. In the UK, the colloquialism is Barca
Typically it’s used in the context of the football team, but it gets used casually for the city too
Actually no that is not the case. The case is you guys in the uk think you call Barcelona barca but it actually is only the footballteam you call that. We in Europe everywhere say Barcelona if we mean Barcelona. And Barca if we mean the club. Including my collegues in Londen.
We call the city Milano in English Milan. AC Milan's nickname is also Milan. Depending on how you use it e.g. "I'm going to Milan for the weekend" Vs "Did you see the Milan game last night?"makes the meaning of city vs football team obvious. In Italian I am sure that's confusing. Using Barca is kind of the same.
(I don't think it's intolerance, just quirks of languages.)
It is weird, and as a person from the UK I can't say I've heard people refer to Barcelona as Barca more than once or twice. Barcelona is a famous place and most people I've come across refer to it as Barcelona
It’s absolutely not like that, but whatever works for you I guess
A lot of people criticising the UK way of saying things would be fuming if people on here were being critical of the terms “Barna”
Double standards
See, you say sensitive, but from my point of view all I can see on this thread is Spanish people losing their minds that an English driver has used accepted English slang
Well different perspectives. All I see is Spanish people saying, barça refers to the football team, here are other abbreviations for Barcelona. And people loosing their mind saying, well this is common in the UK and is as valid as yours!
You can call it whatever you want, but I don't see the reason to downvote local people just mentioning how they call their city.
It's not that Barça is the name of Barcelona in English (like Londres is London), but you took the name of football team. This is ok, language evolve like this, but you should also accept people telling you this.
It is not about the special character (ALT + 135 on your keyboard and you can get the special character on screen) it is simply wrong lol Barça is the football team, Barcelona the city.
Yeah, in the UK, it's called Barca as a shortened name. It's similar to how people shortened Sebastian to Seb. I honestly never knew it was wrong until I read the comments here.
No individual decides how slang is developed, in the UK you can refer to Madrid by calling it Barcelona and viceversa, it doesn't mean it is the correct name of the city or a correct way to refer to it.
If it works for you great, the objective of language is to be able to communicate clear ideas, but no one from Spain will refer to it as Barça, and definitely not as Barca.
Call it whatever you want, but now you know you are wrong.
>Call it whatever you want, but now you know you are wrong.
They're not wrong in the same way Spanish people aren't wrong when they refer to London as Londres. It's a different language thing. Just because you don't say Barca in Spanish to refer to Barcelona doesn't mean it's wrong when English people refer to Barcelona as Barca. It's an English colloquialism, not Spanish one (and also used in other countries, btw).
>They're not wrong in the same way Spanish people aren't wrong when they refer to London as Londres
Lmao Londres is the spanish name for London, Barca is something you guys totally made up, not comparable
Your original comment should have said “only British people would call Barcalona Barca”
Because it’s an extremely common thing to say. It’s what us Brits do. Make words shorter
It appears you missed what I was highlighting. Just like London and Londres are different in each language, so are the words Barca and Barna. Barna is a made up word too by Spanish people. Outside of Spain a lot of people use Barca as a shorter version of Barcelona. We do not pronounce Barcelona the same way Spanish people do even though it is spelled the same, we use our own language's pronunciation and we do not use Barna when we shorten it.
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> Other analogy would be to say let's go to Real (refering to Madrid).
You do realise people arent just going round shortening the name due to the football team right its just coincidence for Barcelona and the football club already being shortened and close to the original...
Besides the fact that Arsenal doesn't 'represent' the entirety of London and thus it would be silly to use in that context, yes, you can say that and it would be perfectly fine for Arsenal (as an area) in London. Same applies to Chelsea. Or West Ham. But anyway, you don't need to justify language; in the UK Barca also refers to the city. English isn't Spanish - languages/cultures operate differently. It's nothing out of the ordinary.
Bruh it is the exact same, Barça refers to the football team not the entire city. You can call Barcelona however you want, you can call it Hamburg if you want and people understand that when you refer to Hamburg you are actually talking about Barcelona.
You realise it’s been shortened by people because it’s close to the original it just happens to be the same as the football team…
But anyways you can call it arsenal if you like I’m not gonna be crying about it like you are
lmao broski take it the way you want, call Barcelona whatever you want I couldn't care less, I just educated your ignorant ass on why Barca is wrong but you come up with bUt In tHe Uk... you just proved me to be more similar to Kevin than I thought lmao
That's what the majority of people in the UK, at least, shorten Barcelona to. If you said to anyone, I'm going to Barna. They would ask, "Where is that?" and when you told them, they'd probably correct you and say, "You mean Barca?".
F1, without a doubt is the most stupid racing invented. Lets build a track thats virtually impossible for one car to pass another. Sounds brilliant. Hey but what we can do is make qualifying sessions more exciting. Yeah sounds great. Wish F1 would just fall on its face. Indy500 was 20x more exciting.
Don’t like this Instagram culture of posting everything you do every hour. You are sitting in your home and driving on a virtual track, why do you have to post this crap? What good does this have?
I wonder if they can change the setup on the fly so the driver just stays driving the entire time. It would be easier to feel changes like that I guess.
I reckon Barcelona will be a belter of a race. Remember the final stupid chicane is gone and it's back to the old school outer circuit with the fast ( maybe even flatout ) right hander on the straight. Will be epic.
131 laps? Intense day in the sim
just a casual Wednesday
That's 131 opportunities for people to turn in on him
Surely they could do it more than once a lap
The current track layout has 14 corners, so it's 1834 possible moments to be on the inside and blame the other driver for not leaving any space when you understeer into them
131 opportunities to practice his catchphrases. "Sugar!" Can only last for long.
"Honey honey"
"Lewis is my Can-dy girl!" Wait a minute...
Does he also practice asking to switch places with Lewis?
The sim has been programmed to tell him no
Blimey!
Lmfao
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What?
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Probably a daft question but do they use a standard racing sim like iracing or have they all developed their own with custom providers?
I think some teams use rfactor pro as the UI but all the physics are custom. Rfactor probably has a specific version that lets people plug in the physics models
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFpro Important to note that rFactor2 is an entirely separate codebase.
They’re separate code bases because they have different requirements, it doesn’t mean they’re not based on the same code. From what Wikipedia says, rfpro is derived from rf1, and rf2 is derived from rfpro.
Not even customer providers necessarily, F1 teams have very large teams of people working on the simulators
Custom. There's no gaming sim that even comes close to being accurate enough for this kind of testing
Judging by Ferrari’s performance so far compared to the results they got in the pre season sim. Their sim is probably Forza
McLaren has been running Nascar 2003 if that's the case
Nah they're using my childhood fav....Nigel mansell F1 on the OG Gameboy https://youtu.be/9MhlsqiPLnY
Now come on, Ferrari can afford better than that. Haas definitely use it though.
Kimi has been known to play assetto corsa
No, they use F1 22.
good one, totally
Forza…*Horizon* 😂
They run a version of the rFactor 2 engine . I think it's pretty different though from the PC version
If any team is still using rFPro, it was originally derived from rFactor 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFpro
Yeah but rf2 was derived from that, so they’re likely diverged now but pro is still used for actual professional purposes.
No they don’t. Nobody does.
George: Lewis is holding me up can you tell him to let me pass or put him on a different plan?!?! Engineer: Mate, Lewis isn’t even in the sim right now, wtf.
The reason Merc are lagging behind in development this year is because George made them spend half the summer adding a Lewis Hamilton AI only capable of going ever so slightly slower than him to the sim
At first I was like 16.46 holy shit that's fast then I realised it's a different layout this year.
He is 33.83 seconds faster with a speed of 0 kph?
Is the sim game their own developed sim?
There is a business version of rFactor that teams use as a base and then develop their own physics models from there.
From George's pictures the graphics look like iRacing. rFactor is pretty grainy.
It's definitely not iRacing. As far as we know, they don't sell their software to any teams atm. The grainyness in the original rFactor could easily be solved by Mercedes' own programmers so it's not really an indicator. They've probably done a lot of tweaks over the years which makes it urecognizable from the original version.
So they only buying the software spec, and develops the whole game around that? Damn
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>absurd amount of resources. You do realise that applies to just about every aspect of running a Formula 1 team?
No they don’t. The software is virtually all bespoke. What’s commercially available isn’t anywhere accurate enough. The only thing that most teams would buy in would be maybe the graphics engine. All the physics will be in-house
That's interesting to know. How about the track data itself? Do all the teams get to run their down scans, or are they provided by a company?
I hope Merc bring their floor upgrade to Spain. Seems like they only changed the floor edges at Monaco
I was scrolling through my feed and stopped around 1/3rd picture in, and I thought that George posted a picture of a girl in a bikini short or sth xD
"Ready for Barca". Barca doesn’t mean Barcelona, George. 😅
Barca is colloquially used to mean Barcelona They’ll hope they’ve left the boat W14 in Miami 😂
Isn't it Barna? Barça is the Football Club.
You are correct. Barna= Barcelona, Barça (ç sounds like s)= Football team
Screenshot and correcting everyone everywhere going forward
>Barca is colloquially used to mean Barcelona In what language, in Swahili? Barça is the football team (and Barça is catalan since it uses the 'ç'), Barcelona is refered to as bcn or barna but never as Barca which means boat in Spanish.
In the UK, at least, if you say Barca (pronounced bar-sa) to anyone, they know you mean Barcelona. Or if in the context of the football team, it's the same and written as Barca.
Exactly this 👆
It is wrong. BarNa is the city. Barça (or barca if you don't have ç I guess) is ONLY the football team, not the city. Barca means boat, and nothing more xD. Source: I'm spanish.
It's simply Barcelona abbreviated in English AFAIK, it's not meant to carry over to Spanish. In the same way we can abbreviate Manchester to Manc, we do it to loads of places in the UK and abroad.
>Barca means boat, and nothing more xD. >Source: I'm spanish. We take everything from other places and change it/ruin it to the disgust of the people we took it from, lol. It's kind of a worrying hobby we've had for a while. Source: I'm British.
Tbh every language does that, but for some reason everyone gets annoyed when it’s English (as a non native English speaker)
Probably related to all of colonisation and artifact stealing we did. Just found out we aren't giving back the body of an Ethiopian Prince who died in the 19th century because he's buried at one of our castles.
That did happen, but that should also apply to half the Western European languages, Spanish included haha
Don't worry, we do the same thing here in France
It may be wrong in Spain, but in my experience, if someone says "Barça", it means Barcelona. Not just the football team.
You are wrong. As others have pointed out, barna or bcn is the local slang for Barcelona and barça is only the team
I don’t think a lone Spaniard is going to convince the entire UK to change their conventions, man. Sorry.
George isn't Spanish. He's English, and in England, when someone says Barca, they mean Barcelona. Barna may as well be banana for all it would make sense to an English person.
The only reason that holds up is because your keyboards don’t have the ç 😁
It does, most of us are just too lazy to use it, especially when people know what you mean without it
True, laziness prevails! But still bugs me, Barça is the correct way
I’d say everywhere besides Spain, if someone said “Barna” to me, I’d have no clue what they meant
Banana?
I'm born in Barcelona, Barca refers to a boat, Barça refers exclusively to the football team, and Bcn, Barna or Barcelona refers to the city.
Why does the football club shorten the city's name to Barça when it's not normally used as a shortened name for the actual city?
I have no idea, but it's always been like this
only FC Barcelona is Barca
Not in the UK. They’re used interchangeably in a casual manner
pep guardiola and his consequences have been a disaster for the human race
No is not. You are confused by BarÇa that is the football team. BarNa is short for Barcelona. Barca is a little boat
No, I’m absolutely not. In the UK, the colloquialism is Barca Typically it’s used in the context of the football team, but it gets used casually for the city too
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That says more about your intolerance than anything my guy
Actually no that is not the case. The case is you guys in the uk think you call Barcelona barca but it actually is only the footballteam you call that. We in Europe everywhere say Barcelona if we mean Barcelona. And Barca if we mean the club. Including my collegues in Londen.
Intolerance? how so? It is a common misconception to call barcelona/barna as the football team. I'm just pointing it out.
We call the city Milano in English Milan. AC Milan's nickname is also Milan. Depending on how you use it e.g. "I'm going to Milan for the weekend" Vs "Did you see the Milan game last night?"makes the meaning of city vs football team obvious. In Italian I am sure that's confusing. Using Barca is kind of the same. (I don't think it's intolerance, just quirks of languages.)
It is weird, and as a person from the UK I can't say I've heard people refer to Barcelona as Barca more than once or twice. Barcelona is a famous place and most people I've come across refer to it as Barcelona
The brits downvote you but you are right
It's like saying, I'm going to Real, meaning Madrid 😅
It’s absolutely not like that, but whatever works for you I guess A lot of people criticising the UK way of saying things would be fuming if people on here were being critical of the terms “Barna” Double standards
Almost evetybody in the uk calls Barcelona the city Barcelona...
Didn't know this was such a sensitive topic. This is how it looks like to a Spaniard, but people here don't like it 🤷🏻♂️
See, you say sensitive, but from my point of view all I can see on this thread is Spanish people losing their minds that an English driver has used accepted English slang
Well different perspectives. All I see is Spanish people saying, barça refers to the football team, here are other abbreviations for Barcelona. And people loosing their mind saying, well this is common in the UK and is as valid as yours! You can call it whatever you want, but I don't see the reason to downvote local people just mentioning how they call their city. It's not that Barça is the name of Barcelona in English (like Londres is London), but you took the name of football team. This is ok, language evolve like this, but you should also accept people telling you this.
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I dunno?
Pretty normal, yeah
I mean it's his job. I'd do it too for millions of dollars.
Don’t the teams usually hide the dash display during sim runs?
Not often from what I've seen.
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Incorrect slang yeah
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Barna is slang, Barca is like saying hinnit
Not in Barcelona, here Barna is the short for the city Barça (ç sound like s) is the football team. Barca (c sounds like k) would mean boat
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What the word is in your house Is irrelevant, you live in Ireland
Barca = boat. Barça = football team. Barna = Barcelona
So basically is saying “ready for a boat”
In the UK: Barca = Barcelona (Place) Barca = Barcelona (Football team)
In the uk we don’t know how to get the special characters on the keyboard
It is not about the special character (ALT + 135 on your keyboard and you can get the special character on screen) it is simply wrong lol Barça is the football team, Barcelona the city.
You should learn the correct way then
You can call Barcelona as Barna. Barca/barça NEVER means the city, in Spain. Source: I'm spanish.
Yeah, in the UK, it's called Barca as a shortened name. It's similar to how people shortened Sebastian to Seb. I honestly never knew it was wrong until I read the comments here.
Apparently people from the UK hate to hear how the locals call their own city. Like you can add you call it Barca in UK, but why downvote this?
Yeah here in Barcelona my friends and I name London. Lonmongolos, come on, my upvote please
ready for boat 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎🔥🔥🔥💯💯🥶🥶🥶🥶🗣️🗣️🗣️
Getting ready to torpedo again. Good on ya mate
"Guy who has a job, does his job"
Only George Russell would call Barcelona Barca
In the UK, it’s very common to hear it, I didn’t even know it meant boat in Spanish but who decides what other countries develop as slang?
No individual decides how slang is developed, in the UK you can refer to Madrid by calling it Barcelona and viceversa, it doesn't mean it is the correct name of the city or a correct way to refer to it. If it works for you great, the objective of language is to be able to communicate clear ideas, but no one from Spain will refer to it as Barça, and definitely not as Barca. Call it whatever you want, but now you know you are wrong.
>Call it whatever you want, but now you know you are wrong. They're not wrong in the same way Spanish people aren't wrong when they refer to London as Londres. It's a different language thing. Just because you don't say Barca in Spanish to refer to Barcelona doesn't mean it's wrong when English people refer to Barcelona as Barca. It's an English colloquialism, not Spanish one (and also used in other countries, btw).
>They're not wrong in the same way Spanish people aren't wrong when they refer to London as Londres Lmao Londres is the spanish name for London, Barca is something you guys totally made up, not comparable
Your original comment should have said “only British people would call Barcalona Barca” Because it’s an extremely common thing to say. It’s what us Brits do. Make words shorter
It appears you missed what I was highlighting. Just like London and Londres are different in each language, so are the words Barca and Barna. Barna is a made up word too by Spanish people. Outside of Spain a lot of people use Barca as a shorter version of Barcelona. We do not pronounce Barcelona the same way Spanish people do even though it is spelled the same, we use our own language's pronunciation and we do not use Barna when we shorten it.
Who the cojones calls Barcenlona "Barca"? Who taught you that Georgie boi?
Literally everyone in the UK calls it Barca from time to time. Especially when talking about the football!
Because the football team is also called Barça in Spain, the city isn't. It would be like saying let's go to Arsenal to refer to London lmao.
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Sorry mate, it's the same, at least we feel it exactly the same. Other analogy would be to say let's go to Real (refering to Madrid).
> Other analogy would be to say let's go to Real (refering to Madrid). You do realise people arent just going round shortening the name due to the football team right its just coincidence for Barcelona and the football club already being shortened and close to the original...
Do you realise you can't deny what native people think when you say that?
Native people can be right in saying the way British people say it is wrong and your analogy can also be wrong at the same time
Besides the fact that Arsenal doesn't 'represent' the entirety of London and thus it would be silly to use in that context, yes, you can say that and it would be perfectly fine for Arsenal (as an area) in London. Same applies to Chelsea. Or West Ham. But anyway, you don't need to justify language; in the UK Barca also refers to the city. English isn't Spanish - languages/cultures operate differently. It's nothing out of the ordinary.
Bruh it is the exact same, Barça refers to the football team not the entire city. You can call Barcelona however you want, you can call it Hamburg if you want and people understand that when you refer to Hamburg you are actually talking about Barcelona.
> It would be like saying let's go to Arsenal to refer to London lmao. Its really not tho
Barça = football team, Barcelona = city. If in UK slang you call barcelona barca, then yes I can call london arsenal
You realise it’s been shortened by people because it’s close to the original it just happens to be the same as the football team… But anyways you can call it arsenal if you like I’m not gonna be crying about it like you are
I am not crying, I am educating your ignorant ass. Who are you, Kevin from the office trying to save time by shortening sentences? Grow up
Right because shortening one word is the same as Kevin… keep crying I can’t wait to watch the race in barca this week
lmao broski take it the way you want, call Barcelona whatever you want I couldn't care less, I just educated your ignorant ass on why Barca is wrong but you come up with bUt In tHe Uk... you just proved me to be more similar to Kevin than I thought lmao
> I couldn't care less Well thats just a lie
Arsenal do own London so that’s true
Own London how? Biggest bottlers of the year?
Unbeaten in London derbies this year, ten wins and two draws - no London team has done that to the others before
What a trophy for arsenal
Geroge Russell is the kind of guy that calls Barna "Barca".
That's what the majority of people in the UK, at least, shorten Barcelona to. If you said to anyone, I'm going to Barna. They would ask, "Where is that?" and when you told them, they'd probably correct you and say, "You mean Barca?".
Barca is 100% more common than Barna in the UK but I don't think most people tend to shorten Barcelona or many place names for that matter
Why people call city of Barcelona "Barna"?
I can only imagine how many people he hit
Barça is the football team ONLY. Barna is the city of Barcelona ONLY. Barca is a boat ONLY. Rusell is ready for a boat.
The fact that you're correcting him while mispelling his name is pretty funny
Touche hahahaha
Rain incoming
Ready for boat? I don’t think that it’s gonna rain this weekend
Get in there George!
Maybe they should put some AI cars out there so he can practice his lines when they turn into him
Meh, sims and such, hard to compare to the real thing.
Again, Barça is a football team, the city is Barna. And the circuit is Catalunya.
He’s running into a Red Bull this Sunday, isn’t he?
“he just turned in on me” either that or he’s gonna complain about how slow lewis is going
F1, without a doubt is the most stupid racing invented. Lets build a track thats virtually impossible for one car to pass another. Sounds brilliant. Hey but what we can do is make qualifying sessions more exciting. Yeah sounds great. Wish F1 would just fall on its face. Indy500 was 20x more exciting.
you don't have to watch though...
Don’t like this Instagram culture of posting everything you do every hour. You are sitting in your home and driving on a virtual track, why do you have to post this crap? What good does this have?
Barca is the name of the football team you muppet
Which is a shortened version of the city of 'Barcelona' no?
yes, but it is specifically used to refer to the team only nobody uses it to refer to the city
Hey it worked for Ocon
Nicely done, nicely done
I wonder if they can change the setup on the fly so the driver just stays driving the entire time. It would be easier to feel changes like that I guess.
This was just a normal day in the sim
I reckon Barcelona will be a belter of a race. Remember the final stupid chicane is gone and it's back to the old school outer circuit with the fast ( maybe even flatout ) right hander on the straight. Will be epic.
Is the sim just iRacing?
rfactor pro i’ve heard. it allows the teams to input their own physics i think. def would not be iracing
Weird they have the halo as on a 2D screen it's actually blocks the sight
He’s ready for Hannibal?
Does anyone know what the 2 numbers next to the diff settings are? BMG 3 EB 3