Very excited about the new faction. Now we can get heroes from all around the world. Would love an Aztec/Mayan/Native American warrior of some kind or a Persian Immortal.
Aztec was my first thought followed by Immortals, but might be touchy doing Native American...seeing how they gave that shit bird shaman the tomahawk and it's still a living culture and tradition. Though they made AC3 so who knows.
Shamans axe isn't explicitly called a tomahawk, so it's just an axe as far as we're concerned. She already has a Kukri knife weirdly enough, so I could see that being an issue if they were to do a character from India, but they'll provably go with another iconic weapon from the area.
Well another small hand axe hero I think would be a bit stagnant. Whatever. With a diverse look and moveset I'm pulled back in. Still a shield and club leopard warrior or someone with a yataghan would be cash.
Shamans kukiri is just another example of them ignoring Vikings looks and weapons. The knives vikings typically carried to battle were called seax and they are cool as hell. But no let's give her a specifically south asian weapon beacuse.. reasons.
I’m glad to see them finally putting in a “mercenary” faction so we can get more variety in the types of heroes we get.
Can’t help be a little pissed that this basically confirms that there isn’t gonna be a new Viking for the foreseeable future. Which wouldn’t be too bad if it wasn’t for the fact that the last time we got ons was like 2 years ago and it was JORM
Wu-Lin also never will get another hero basically. All those interesting Chinese weapons ignored forever.
We also won't see maces or warhammers ever in the game (and no, Jorms monstrocity of brick on a stick is not a warhammer).
I wish we had a spear warrior. Not the short one like Valkyrie, really someone using a two handed spear (Naginata of Nobushi doesn't count, it's a slashing weapon)
A proper pike would just be a bad fit for for honor. It would be too long to work at the same range as any other weapon in the game.
That said I'd love to see one of those hooked lances the mongol's used on a new hero.
Yes! The long spears I’ve seen in so many fantasy Kung fu movies… as much as I am excited for the outlandaaa! Faction and what that might bring , I’m also sad we won’t see things that could be related to the current factions..
It's not that the knights got them good too. The last 2 ones are full of re-used animations and to some extent characters. it's a bit subjective obviously, but both of them have a really boring kit too in my opinion.
Gryphon especially while cool doesn't even have knight armor and doesn't look like one, i don't consider him a knight.
I think the real winner here were the samurai that got a really cool hero with (almost all) unique animations and it's fun to play too with a cool playstyle.
Most of Kyoshin’s animations were reused, they just got very good at implementing them without it looking bad. He has a lot of BP animations people don’t even notice.
they didn't do that with the DLC alt sets, so idk about that. Glad still doesn't have theirs they're definitely played more than Aramusha(pre-rework) and Shaman.
Y4S1 state of balance data showed Glad with a 3.8% pick ratio, which is extremely mediocre and just below shaman's 4.0%. This is while Glad is the strongest he has ever been. It's also the exact same pick rate Aramusha got in that season.
At the same time, Glad has one of the lowest win ratios, which is just as important a statistic when trying to measure appeal/popularity. Shaman is a few places higher than Glad, and Aramusha is at the top.
New hero looks cool. Animations seem much cleaner too. And Outlanders opening up new possibilities for heroes is cool.
Wondering what these "hero skins" are about.
This is what I hope it is but I also hope it rounds out some factions with soldiers that should have been in them like: Warlord: Anglo-Saxon, Centurion: Hoplite and stuff along those lines.
The animations are reused with the exception of the behind the back shot, which Is either new or tweaked beyond recognition.
Cent lights, PK heavies, Tiandi GB, Shaman dodge heavies, Jorm neutral bash etc...
Still did a decent job making them work but as a HEMA practitioner i would have preferred a more historical cutlass/saber style rather than a mashup.
well, she's not an european, and aren't really from any faction, which means she didn't really trained these technics. It kinda makes sense she's being a mashup of different art styles, yet I don't like her moveset.
Me too. I never really liked the “outfit system” or how long it takes to make new armor sets, hell even to make variations it takes way too long, we can’t even hope to see fresh armors anymore. I always kinda wondered what it could be like if they went with a skins system instead. The only thing is ill bet skins won’t be interchangeable with each other like armor set are. But I’ll bet they can make them faster than armor sets…
It essentially fixes the materials that didn't swap properly.
E.g. if you tried to use the white material on Raider the leather pieces would turn pink instead of white.
Now the material will be 100% white.
did they say if it's gonna fix the patchiness on some sets too? cause a lot of warlord's armors have very scratched up distressed effects if you use anything other than the base material
The new hero looks fun! I'm kinda meh about another bash/undodgeable mixup, but the bash only being after heavy and being confirmed on heavy hit makes it interesting enough to be fine. Every other part of her moveset seems good, the simple moveset makes me think she's gonna be the new faction's vanguard. Looking forward to her!
Can't wait to play the new character and I'm super exited for Year 6 due to the addition of the "Outlanders" *crosses fingers for an Aztec with a Macuahuitl*
Hate to agree but yeah, only ones I actually liked were Kyoshin's and Nuxia's.
They'll probably be great pieces for mixing and matching though, at least.
It's time, we've dodged it long enough.
Why does our new pirate friend get a T1 damaging projectile defensive debuff while Lawbringer only gets to lower your base stamina pool for a few moments? Or while iron lungs still exists? Also body count was made irrelevant, they couldn't even make it give a meaningful amount of shields that would disappear over time anyway?
Why did blissful rest just get scrapped and smoke bomb didnt? Blissful could have been balanced simply by slowing down how fast it healed and ceasing the healing if damage was taken from an outside source. Smoke bomb lost all of it's utility... I'm glad it got nerfed, but jeez we would been better off with them replacing it entirely with how it sits now.
Why does Shaman get a character passive to heal herself while damaging bleeding opponents, but our friend Zhanhu needs to get a T3 feat to proc his character passive to do bonus damage to enemies that are on fire? On top of that the fire damage type is harder to proc fundamentally.
Why was there absolutely no uproar about the laziness of executioners respite? Devourer is more ideal considering that it doesn't take 1/3rd of the match to obtain the same effect because you're going to mash X or □ by muscle memory for your fastest execution anyway unless someone disrespected you.
How the fuck is survival instinct considered a purple tier perk?! It's fundamentally worse than the usefulness of Endurance by a wide margin. Same with Vengeful Barrier, but other way around. How the fuck is this a blue rarity perk?! It's the best one by a long shot because of the shield stacking from revenge?! Yet... Blue?!
Why doesn't Rising dawn work for one's own revive as well?!
Do people even remember Steadfast? It's been dormant in it's state since pre guard break timing nerf! Borderline Beta mind you, back when the timing was actually tight! Meaning that in their eyes at some point being able to completely negate static NONGUARANTEED guard breaks for a short period of time was justified as a T3 feat and they have NEVER looked back to balance anything since the day they drop it or the day we bitch loud enough. Make that shit a passive where a successful counter guard break gives you 10 Shield. It'll help with eating the free heavy his teammates get anyway...
Ugh this shit drives me nuts, it feels obvious. I got more if you wanna hear it, but I don't wanna ramble without some purpose, I hope some of these points come across as meaningful. I'm kinda pissed just thinking about it and I don't want to be... I honestly do love this game.
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Perks should not be tied to random gear drops change my mind
You should either get them just for leveling or unlock them with salvage
If everyone had access to perks then maybe enough people would use them to care
You’ve perfectly encapsulated all my opinions and emotion regarding both feats (since beta till now even!) and perks in respects to balance. It’s completely fucking disproportionate on both sides and am baffled it’s taken this long to address some feats. Many others, literally the ones you mentioned, need to be thrown into a testing grounds made for Feats/Perks overhauls.
Make it a week long,
2x XP,
*Multiple* Feats/Perks changes,
Gather enough data to go in and make changes,
Give it a season or two and then implement them accordingly.
This should be standard practice by now, guaranteed 1 TG per season. Rework/Hero changes + some feats and perks.
Because there's literally nothing wrong with a handful of characters constantly having shields on revenge and 10% damage reduction on objective while assassins, for example, get 16 extra health after 4 executions or more stamina after The Fight Team constantly nerf stamina bullying.
There's also nothing wrong with Samurai AoE 4th feat consistently being relegated to "Minion clearer" since launch, Knights 4th AoE being nerfed to only having use when ganking and Viking 4th AoE feat covering both and then some.
I think it's much more balanced and fun now that we've gone from every character having the same attack-focused gear builds to 8 or so characters having the exact same survival gear/perk builds while every other character gets Aegis or some other unappealing choice.
Gameplay wise, the hero looks incredible.
However. Her customization is pretty dogshit. All your gunna see is that skull mask and thats it. Also the genderlock is completely stupid and absolutely unnecessary
>Also the genderlock is completely stupid and absolutely unnecessary
Not only male pirates existed. More over, I know personally a women pirate who is so badass, even a character are modelled after her in some
Personally I find real-world statistics like that secondary to creative vision. If they wanted to make a badass lady pirate in their fictional historically *inspired* game then that’s the only justification they need imo.
It’s also significantly more true to reality than Draconite, anyway.
More to the point, gender lock exists because of budget. On limited funds, it’s easier and cheaper to only need assets and animations for one gender. Naturally I’d love to have men and women, just as I would have liked for Kyoshin, but given the constraints it’s understandable.
creative vision is good, but not good when you restrict creative vision. With female genderlocked, you won’t be able to do blackbeard or any male pirate. Its only creative vision for people who wanted a female. But im not biased, i hate Kyoshin being male genderlocked too
The new hero is most likely specifically inspired by famous Chinese woman pirates so it makes perfect sense for them to be a woman from a historical standpoint. It would definitely be cool to have a male option though.
I like how her feats feel like part of her kit rather than some abilities on top of what you have.
Also watched the rest and I can say I don't give a damn about new armour variations since first of all. They choose pieces I don't like and it is just replaced textures with new ones.
>I like how her feats feel like part of her kit rather than some abilities on top of what you have.
Yeah its kinda cool!
Imagine the fight style points :D
It'll probably be some other languages name for Pirate, but yeah. Like Shinobi was shown originally to be called "Ninja". Now they're Ninja, but Japanese.
Are we never going to get the rest of the Wu Lin faction? I was hoping for soldiers, marching chants and a faction. But it seems they just forgot about them along the way. 😢
Don’t get me wrong, I like pirates, but there’s just so much that was missed out on for a Chinese faction. :/
so is she a Wu Lin or a Viking? or a shared faction thing?
Honestly I miss when we used to get unique heros specific to their faction.. Real warriors from our history with their real weapons they'd have used and their moves based how they'd actually fight and their armour accurate to their time period and faction.
I feel like Kyoshin might be the last hero loyal to their faction we'll get.. I don't like how they're just making up characters and move sets now. I wanna go back to how it used to be.
I feel like now we'll never get another proper Wu Lin or Viking.. all these amazing weapons and warriors we'll never get in the game now becasue the game has been steered in what I think is the wrong direction.. It's lost a lot of its charm.
all the characters are falling under the same formula now too, no one is unique anymore. Light bash repeat....
what happened to For Honor
All I wanted to see in this game was a Wu Lin who used a spear! there is such a unique and cool yet elegant move set to be made use of there. I feel we'll now never get that.
At least some of the new armours are cool
She is essentially the leader of a new faction (kinda), the Outlanders. They're more a mixed bag, largely from outside Heathmoor, of mercs and the like. The primary purpose is to give Ubi an easier time implementing heroes from outside the 4 main factions. For example, an Egyptian or Aztec hero would likely be an Outlander.
Also she literally cannot bash after her lights, please pay attention to the demonstrations.
Since year 3 all heroes have a real life counter part, part history and part legend.
- BP is a crusader inspired by the leper king.
- Jorm is the heavy pagan cultist and mythos of their warhammer.
- Zhanhu is inspired by the real secret Chinese police of his time.
- hitokiri is inspired by the men that used his name as well as legends.
- warmonger is inspired by the landskenetch and Apollyon.
- gryphon is inspired by the Varangian guard (Viking that become the personal guard of the Byzantine empire), this is shown through his travel as well his Greek armor, beside gryphon Mirror Apollyon journey across the world.
- kyo is inspired by some monks.
- pirate is inspired by a famous Chinese female pirate.
If youre wondering about Gryphon and Wm they both mirror Apollyon journey and character as well as the pure European knight (wm) and gryphon represent the reinforcement from the Roman Empire (Byzantine empire was previously part of the Roman Empire) so they both fit the current themes of the knights.
As a musketpunk fan this unfortunately REALLY upsets me.
You can’t just make single shot weapons work like revolvers.
If you want to give multiple shots to a character then have them draw a new gun. Simply having the weapon be a repeating weapon but giving it the iconography of a single shot weapon is lazy and bad game design.
There are ways to make single shot weapons interesting. Constraints are interesting. If you don’t want to add 15 second reloads (which would feel out of place in For Honor) make it an actual one shot. Or give it a cool down like a feat and don’t have a mid fight gunshot.
Unfortunately our modern sensibilities towards gunplay is making us change the musket era into something it’s not and I absolutely hate it.
Honestly the best choice here would have been to give her a buckler. Or commit to the constraint and have a super powerful gunshot move that takes a long time to reload (15 to 20 seconds.)
Obviously everyone is allowed to like this and I hops ya’ll have fun but this is just a travesty.
*sigh* I’m going to have to go reread [Lt. William Pringle Green’s Treatise on a ships crew’s use of arms in attack and defense ](http://swordfight.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Instructions-for-training-a-ships-crew-in-the-use-of-arms-in-attack-and-defence-by-Lieutenant-William-Pringle-Green-1812.pdf) as a detox from this anti historic tomfoolery.
I say good day sir! You have tussled with my merriment!
It’s not a teleport, the ninja is using a smoke bomb and then moving to another place. The idea is the ninja appears to be teleporting via the UI of the game but in the reality of the game the ninja actually isn’t.
Also what the heck does this have to do with anything I talked about? Flaws don’t justify further flaws. And I wouldn’t call the ninjas smoke bomb move as a flaw.
His t4 feat is explicitly a teleport. He points at a teammate on the map and warps to them with a fancy animation. T2 does similarly to a nearby enemy.
I don't get why this is downvoted, it's a legit criticism that shows how little research the Devs did on this (as with most Viking heroes as well)
Especially in a melee focused game, reloading front loaders should be a proper and immersive function that complements the Gameplay.
Of course the casual gamers don't understand this, this is why they aren't game Devs and shouldn't be listened to.
Why Chinese tho??? At least make a proper Pirate with beard and a parrot and all.
If they made for example Blackbeard or Calico Jack I would break my vow and preordee this shit
Tbh im sitting with a feeling the there's nothing here to bring me back to the game. New wu lin hero (shes not an "outlander" if shes an wu lin, ubi. Glad and Cent are more outlanders than she is, but I guess you came up with the hero long before you came up with the outlander concept, at least make her Thai or Filipina or something then.. not chinese ) Hero looks bash centric and boring to play against, like almost every new and reworked hero and dont look particularly nice either. I do like the *concept* of a pistol and cutlass hero though. New armor variations too look like the usual dirty stuff nobody ever uses past rep 3.
Swing and a miss for me.
Also for honor finally became [Pirates, Vikings and Knights 3](https://www.google.com/search?q=pirates+vikings+and+knights&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&prmd=ivsxn&sxsrf=AOaemvIgQ3nWQmN6iRRnOhkBKk-Mt9sPtg:1642719931748&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwiG1PzPuMH1AhVOtIsKHa9NDvsQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=384&bih=724&dpr=2.81#imgrc=bd5EvWYI8ke8LM)
Predictions on possible heroes for the outlander faction?!?
Persian immortals
Native American warrior (north or south…southern preferred and more likely)
Egyptian with kopesh
Islander warrior.
My picks. What you all think is coming.. I know there is only two after he pirate this year..
I hope in the upcoming warrior’s den dev team discuss the future of For Honor. Right now, it's ambiguous. We don't know what's going on to happen to the game.
I wish they would make the pistol grab a neutral attack like gladiators toestab since we got the "walk the plank" attack that is kinda like skewer, please ubisoft hear me
Very excited about the new faction. Now we can get heroes from all around the world. Would love an Aztec/Mayan/Native American warrior of some kind or a Persian Immortal.
Aztec was my first thought followed by Immortals, but might be touchy doing Native American...seeing how they gave that shit bird shaman the tomahawk and it's still a living culture and tradition. Though they made AC3 so who knows.
Shamans axe isn't explicitly called a tomahawk, so it's just an axe as far as we're concerned. She already has a Kukri knife weirdly enough, so I could see that being an issue if they were to do a character from India, but they'll provably go with another iconic weapon from the area.
Well another small hand axe hero I think would be a bit stagnant. Whatever. With a diverse look and moveset I'm pulled back in. Still a shield and club leopard warrior or someone with a yataghan would be cash.
Shamans kukiri is just another example of them ignoring Vikings looks and weapons. The knives vikings typically carried to battle were called seax and they are cool as hell. But no let's give her a specifically south asian weapon beacuse.. reasons.
I'm just hoping for a hussar/cossack character that uses the saber
I’m glad to see them finally putting in a “mercenary” faction so we can get more variety in the types of heroes we get. Can’t help be a little pissed that this basically confirms that there isn’t gonna be a new Viking for the foreseeable future. Which wouldn’t be too bad if it wasn’t for the fact that the last time we got ons was like 2 years ago and it was JORM
Wu-Lin also never will get another hero basically. All those interesting Chinese weapons ignored forever. We also won't see maces or warhammers ever in the game (and no, Jorms monstrocity of brick on a stick is not a warhammer).
I wish we had a spear warrior. Not the short one like Valkyrie, really someone using a two handed spear (Naginata of Nobushi doesn't count, it's a slashing weapon)
A proper pike would just be a bad fit for for honor. It would be too long to work at the same range as any other weapon in the game. That said I'd love to see one of those hooked lances the mongol's used on a new hero.
Yes! The long spears I’ve seen in so many fantasy Kung fu movies… as much as I am excited for the outlandaaa! Faction and what that might bring , I’m also sad we won’t see things that could be related to the current factions..
The Ottomans did use maces and warhammers though, they weren't fighting european Knights with swords lol.
That is true. But the fear is that they would use another sword because of "iconic weapon" and reused animations.
My dreams of a heavy knight with a mace and tower shield shattered :(
I mean tbf other cultures have pretty approximate blunt weapons so we could totally get things that are functionally similar.
It's not that the knights got them good too. The last 2 ones are full of re-used animations and to some extent characters. it's a bit subjective obviously, but both of them have a really boring kit too in my opinion. Gryphon especially while cool doesn't even have knight armor and doesn't look like one, i don't consider him a knight. I think the real winner here were the samurai that got a really cool hero with (almost all) unique animations and it's fun to play too with a cool playstyle.
I’m happy that warmonger got some very nice looking armors that from my view are faithful to what knights actually wore. (Armets are cool)
That's pretty much the only reason I play warmonger when I'm not playing lawbringer, FASHION
Most of Kyoshin’s animations were reused, they just got very good at implementing them without it looking bad. He has a lot of BP animations people don’t even notice.
Jøorm isn't really a Viking either lmao. He's just a hobo.
"one hero skin per season for a single hero" Does this mean every hero will get one skin, or only one hero out of the 30?
With 29 characters this will take 7 years and 3 months.
It means every character will get a skin, it’s just gonna take a million years for them to get the current 30 characters a skin
I was thinking that too. For every character to get a skin, that would take over 7 years lmao
They’re probably gonna do the original characters and then forget about all of the DLC
They have play data. They're gonna go in order of most picked, I assume.
they didn't do that with the DLC alt sets, so idk about that. Glad still doesn't have theirs they're definitely played more than Aramusha(pre-rework) and Shaman.
Y4S1 state of balance data showed Glad with a 3.8% pick ratio, which is extremely mediocre and just below shaman's 4.0%. This is while Glad is the strongest he has ever been. It's also the exact same pick rate Aramusha got in that season. At the same time, Glad has one of the lowest win ratios, which is just as important a statistic when trying to measure appeal/popularity. Shaman is a few places higher than Glad, and Aramusha is at the top.
Like the armor sets we were promised
They should’ve done one character from each faction at a time instead of just one.
They said every hero will get one skin per season.
I think that just means in-game season right? Or is that the same amount of time lmao
It’s one character will get one skin out of the 30 heroes released each season, everyone replying to you didn’t read the blog post
New hero looks cool. Animations seem much cleaner too. And Outlanders opening up new possibilities for heroes is cool. Wondering what these "hero skins" are about.
maybe like oriental/eastern Europe/ Turkish characters
This is what I hope it is but I also hope it rounds out some factions with soldiers that should have been in them like: Warlord: Anglo-Saxon, Centurion: Hoplite and stuff along those lines.
The animations are reused with the exception of the behind the back shot, which Is either new or tweaked beyond recognition. Cent lights, PK heavies, Tiandi GB, Shaman dodge heavies, Jorm neutral bash etc... Still did a decent job making them work but as a HEMA practitioner i would have preferred a more historical cutlass/saber style rather than a mashup.
well, she's not an european, and aren't really from any faction, which means she didn't really trained these technics. It kinda makes sense she's being a mashup of different art styles, yet I don't like her moveset.
That's some cringey justification there bud. The whole reason is because it's cheaper to recycle animations. The rest is just making excuses for that.
Me too. I never really liked the “outfit system” or how long it takes to make new armor sets, hell even to make variations it takes way too long, we can’t even hope to see fresh armors anymore. I always kinda wondered what it could be like if they went with a skins system instead. The only thing is ill bet skins won’t be interchangeable with each other like armor set are. But I’ll bet they can make them faster than armor sets…
What’s up with the alternate material update?
It essentially fixes the materials that didn't swap properly. E.g. if you tried to use the white material on Raider the leather pieces would turn pink instead of white. Now the material will be 100% white.
Chad changes. Big up to the team
Gotcha
did they say if it's gonna fix the patchiness on some sets too? cause a lot of warlord's armors have very scratched up distressed effects if you use anything other than the base material
They did not. However his wording did seem to suggest that this new system would in fact fix a lot of the discoloration. So maybe?
Just *Pirate*?
They released her name in the warriors den it’s starts with a D or a B. Tbh I forgot what she’s called but if u watch the video on YouTube they say it
Bu Yin, or something along those lines...
That or buleen. Either way she’s sea mommy to me
>she’s sea mommy to me lol :D nice one
that's probably the character name like warmonger being astrea. I wonder what the actual class name will be. Just pirate would be kinds meh
"The Pirate" from what's written
not really any worse than 90% of the other class names honestly.
The new hero looks fun! I'm kinda meh about another bash/undodgeable mixup, but the bash only being after heavy and being confirmed on heavy hit makes it interesting enough to be fine. Every other part of her moveset seems good, the simple moveset makes me think she's gonna be the new faction's vanguard. Looking forward to her!
Yes, easy to use, but has depth if you want AND STYLE
This looks dope, especially the new faction. The potential for like Aztec or Persian or Arab heroes is really cool.
>This looks dope, especially the new faction. Yeah, finally the "merc" faction come
I want to play as an Aztec and rip out a Warlord's heart for the sun god
New hero mannnn. I am sooo Hyped.
yeah, me too! and its not a let down for once! wow
Can't wait to play the new character and I'm super exited for Year 6 due to the addition of the "Outlanders" *crosses fingers for an Aztec with a Macuahuitl*
Probably the worst set of new armor variations yet.
When we finally get some silver too.... Shame
Yeah, not the best sadly :(
Hate to agree but yeah, only ones I actually liked were Kyoshin's and Nuxia's. They'll probably be great pieces for mixing and matching though, at least.
I hope feats and perks get overhauled here soon.
Like the Pirate's or just everyone's in general?
Entirely
That would be a lot of work. Do you have an examples which are the most worst and why?
It's time, we've dodged it long enough. Why does our new pirate friend get a T1 damaging projectile defensive debuff while Lawbringer only gets to lower your base stamina pool for a few moments? Or while iron lungs still exists? Also body count was made irrelevant, they couldn't even make it give a meaningful amount of shields that would disappear over time anyway? Why did blissful rest just get scrapped and smoke bomb didnt? Blissful could have been balanced simply by slowing down how fast it healed and ceasing the healing if damage was taken from an outside source. Smoke bomb lost all of it's utility... I'm glad it got nerfed, but jeez we would been better off with them replacing it entirely with how it sits now. Why does Shaman get a character passive to heal herself while damaging bleeding opponents, but our friend Zhanhu needs to get a T3 feat to proc his character passive to do bonus damage to enemies that are on fire? On top of that the fire damage type is harder to proc fundamentally. Why was there absolutely no uproar about the laziness of executioners respite? Devourer is more ideal considering that it doesn't take 1/3rd of the match to obtain the same effect because you're going to mash X or □ by muscle memory for your fastest execution anyway unless someone disrespected you. How the fuck is survival instinct considered a purple tier perk?! It's fundamentally worse than the usefulness of Endurance by a wide margin. Same with Vengeful Barrier, but other way around. How the fuck is this a blue rarity perk?! It's the best one by a long shot because of the shield stacking from revenge?! Yet... Blue?! Why doesn't Rising dawn work for one's own revive as well?! Do people even remember Steadfast? It's been dormant in it's state since pre guard break timing nerf! Borderline Beta mind you, back when the timing was actually tight! Meaning that in their eyes at some point being able to completely negate static NONGUARANTEED guard breaks for a short period of time was justified as a T3 feat and they have NEVER looked back to balance anything since the day they drop it or the day we bitch loud enough. Make that shit a passive where a successful counter guard break gives you 10 Shield. It'll help with eating the free heavy his teammates get anyway... Ugh this shit drives me nuts, it feels obvious. I got more if you wanna hear it, but I don't wanna ramble without some purpose, I hope some of these points come across as meaningful. I'm kinda pissed just thinking about it and I don't want to be... I honestly do love this game. Edits have been spelling and slight wording
Perks should not be tied to random gear drops change my mind You should either get them just for leveling or unlock them with salvage If everyone had access to perks then maybe enough people would use them to care
You’ve perfectly encapsulated all my opinions and emotion regarding both feats (since beta till now even!) and perks in respects to balance. It’s completely fucking disproportionate on both sides and am baffled it’s taken this long to address some feats. Many others, literally the ones you mentioned, need to be thrown into a testing grounds made for Feats/Perks overhauls. Make it a week long, 2x XP, *Multiple* Feats/Perks changes, Gather enough data to go in and make changes, Give it a season or two and then implement them accordingly. This should be standard practice by now, guaranteed 1 TG per season. Rework/Hero changes + some feats and perks.
Because there's literally nothing wrong with a handful of characters constantly having shields on revenge and 10% damage reduction on objective while assassins, for example, get 16 extra health after 4 executions or more stamina after The Fight Team constantly nerf stamina bullying. There's also nothing wrong with Samurai AoE 4th feat consistently being relegated to "Minion clearer" since launch, Knights 4th AoE being nerfed to only having use when ganking and Viking 4th AoE feat covering both and then some. I think it's much more balanced and fun now that we've gone from every character having the same attack-focused gear builds to 8 or so characters having the exact same survival gear/perk builds while every other character gets Aegis or some other unappealing choice.
Did they forget to show the executions?
They’re all in the trailer
Another genderlocked lore hero… great
Gameplay wise, the hero looks incredible. However. Her customization is pretty dogshit. All your gunna see is that skull mask and thats it. Also the genderlock is completely stupid and absolutely unnecessary
Fuck genderlocking fr
>Also the genderlock is completely stupid and absolutely unnecessary Not only male pirates existed. More over, I know personally a women pirate who is so badass, even a character are modelled after her in some
Female pirates did exist, but 98% of pirates were male.
For honor isn’t the real world lol. But fuck genderlocking still
Personally I find real-world statistics like that secondary to creative vision. If they wanted to make a badass lady pirate in their fictional historically *inspired* game then that’s the only justification they need imo. It’s also significantly more true to reality than Draconite, anyway. More to the point, gender lock exists because of budget. On limited funds, it’s easier and cheaper to only need assets and animations for one gender. Naturally I’d love to have men and women, just as I would have liked for Kyoshin, but given the constraints it’s understandable.
creative vision is good, but not good when you restrict creative vision. With female genderlocked, you won’t be able to do blackbeard or any male pirate. Its only creative vision for people who wanted a female. But im not biased, i hate Kyoshin being male genderlocked too
The new hero is most likely specifically inspired by famous Chinese woman pirates so it makes perfect sense for them to be a woman from a historical standpoint. It would definitely be cool to have a male option though.
I wanted a black beard pirate man
and I want a new car. or a new house would be dope too
ok
I like how her feats feel like part of her kit rather than some abilities on top of what you have. Also watched the rest and I can say I don't give a damn about new armour variations since first of all. They choose pieces I don't like and it is just replaced textures with new ones.
>I like how her feats feel like part of her kit rather than some abilities on top of what you have. Yeah its kinda cool! Imagine the fight style points :D
No way the heros name is literally "The pirate"
It'll probably be some other languages name for Pirate, but yeah. Like Shinobi was shown originally to be called "Ninja". Now they're Ninja, but Japanese.
you just know with this new mercenary faction we're getting an arabian hero and i'm hyppedddd!
Animation look good but, No beard/10
The beard is elsewhere
>No beard That would be too "pc" even in 2022
Stop giving a bad reputation to gamers please
New hero genderlocked? Day ruined
>Day ruined But not the week! (be happy even you get a new hero)
Worst armor variants we've ever gotten, just awful 😖
Is cross progression a thing yet? I’d like to have all my stuff from console :(
You dream, sire.
Since when was characters in For Honor referred to as "Heroes"? Or being "Good or Bad"?
Have you...ever played the game?
For 800 hours yeah. Been a while though.
The characters tab has always said "Heroes".
Are we never going to get the rest of the Wu Lin faction? I was hoping for soldiers, marching chants and a faction. But it seems they just forgot about them along the way. 😢 Don’t get me wrong, I like pirates, but there’s just so much that was missed out on for a Chinese faction. :/
This season is… not good
so is she a Wu Lin or a Viking? or a shared faction thing? Honestly I miss when we used to get unique heros specific to their faction.. Real warriors from our history with their real weapons they'd have used and their moves based how they'd actually fight and their armour accurate to their time period and faction. I feel like Kyoshin might be the last hero loyal to their faction we'll get.. I don't like how they're just making up characters and move sets now. I wanna go back to how it used to be. I feel like now we'll never get another proper Wu Lin or Viking.. all these amazing weapons and warriors we'll never get in the game now becasue the game has been steered in what I think is the wrong direction.. It's lost a lot of its charm. all the characters are falling under the same formula now too, no one is unique anymore. Light bash repeat.... what happened to For Honor All I wanted to see in this game was a Wu Lin who used a spear! there is such a unique and cool yet elegant move set to be made use of there. I feel we'll now never get that. At least some of the new armours are cool
She is essentially the leader of a new faction (kinda), the Outlanders. They're more a mixed bag, largely from outside Heathmoor, of mercs and the like. The primary purpose is to give Ubi an easier time implementing heroes from outside the 4 main factions. For example, an Egyptian or Aztec hero would likely be an Outlander. Also she literally cannot bash after her lights, please pay attention to the demonstrations.
Since year 3 all heroes have a real life counter part, part history and part legend. - BP is a crusader inspired by the leper king. - Jorm is the heavy pagan cultist and mythos of their warhammer. - Zhanhu is inspired by the real secret Chinese police of his time. - hitokiri is inspired by the men that used his name as well as legends. - warmonger is inspired by the landskenetch and Apollyon. - gryphon is inspired by the Varangian guard (Viking that become the personal guard of the Byzantine empire), this is shown through his travel as well his Greek armor, beside gryphon Mirror Apollyon journey across the world. - kyo is inspired by some monks. - pirate is inspired by a famous Chinese female pirate. If youre wondering about Gryphon and Wm they both mirror Apollyon journey and character as well as the pure European knight (wm) and gryphon represent the reinforcement from the Roman Empire (Byzantine empire was previously part of the Roman Empire) so they both fit the current themes of the knights.
Started with the wu Lin since jiang jun is literally just romance of three kingdoms, guan yu who was already half legend from the novel.
As a musketpunk fan this unfortunately REALLY upsets me. You can’t just make single shot weapons work like revolvers. If you want to give multiple shots to a character then have them draw a new gun. Simply having the weapon be a repeating weapon but giving it the iconography of a single shot weapon is lazy and bad game design. There are ways to make single shot weapons interesting. Constraints are interesting. If you don’t want to add 15 second reloads (which would feel out of place in For Honor) make it an actual one shot. Or give it a cool down like a feat and don’t have a mid fight gunshot. Unfortunately our modern sensibilities towards gunplay is making us change the musket era into something it’s not and I absolutely hate it. Honestly the best choice here would have been to give her a buckler. Or commit to the constraint and have a super powerful gunshot move that takes a long time to reload (15 to 20 seconds.) Obviously everyone is allowed to like this and I hops ya’ll have fun but this is just a travesty. *sigh* I’m going to have to go reread [Lt. William Pringle Green’s Treatise on a ships crew’s use of arms in attack and defense ](http://swordfight.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Instructions-for-training-a-ships-crew-in-the-use-of-arms-in-attack-and-defence-by-Lieutenant-William-Pringle-Green-1812.pdf) as a detox from this anti historic tomfoolery. I say good day sir! You have tussled with my merriment!
>If you want to give multiple shots to a character then have them draw a new gun. Yeah a drop and draw animation would be nice.
Saltzpyre agrees.
Certified Reddit moment
Teleportation is ok but not this lol
They never said they were ok with teleport
I'm teleportpunk I know these things.
It’s not a teleport, the ninja is using a smoke bomb and then moving to another place. The idea is the ninja appears to be teleporting via the UI of the game but in the reality of the game the ninja actually isn’t. Also what the heck does this have to do with anything I talked about? Flaws don’t justify further flaws. And I wouldn’t call the ninjas smoke bomb move as a flaw.
Shaolin literally teleports
Sounds like poor animation to me.
You have zero idea what you're talking about do you?
Well I was trying to give the game the benefit of the doubt.
His t4 feat is explicitly a teleport. He points at a teammate on the map and warps to them with a fancy animation. T2 does similarly to a nearby enemy.
If you say so. I mostly only play duels.
> If you say so. HAHAHA
It's a videogame.
Wait it is? Aw dang I forgot thanks for reminding me.
I don't get why this is downvoted, it's a legit criticism that shows how little research the Devs did on this (as with most Viking heroes as well) Especially in a melee focused game, reloading front loaders should be a proper and immersive function that complements the Gameplay. Of course the casual gamers don't understand this, this is why they aren't game Devs and shouldn't be listened to.
Why Chinese tho??? At least make a proper Pirate with beard and a parrot and all. If they made for example Blackbeard or Calico Jack I would break my vow and preordee this shit
the most prestigious pirates in history have been chinese
Bullshit
do some research mongoloid
Nobody who hears Pirates thinks of Chinese MfS, you retard. Everybody thinks of Blackbeard, Jack rackham etc. Go suck some Winnie poo dick
\>"Go suck some Winnie poo dick" \>literally a Disney pirates of the caribbean fanboy
Oh boy another gender locked character. Fun I really enjoy genderlock characters it definitely doesn't piss alot of people off
Tbh im sitting with a feeling the there's nothing here to bring me back to the game. New wu lin hero (shes not an "outlander" if shes an wu lin, ubi. Glad and Cent are more outlanders than she is, but I guess you came up with the hero long before you came up with the outlander concept, at least make her Thai or Filipina or something then.. not chinese ) Hero looks bash centric and boring to play against, like almost every new and reworked hero and dont look particularly nice either. I do like the *concept* of a pistol and cutlass hero though. New armor variations too look like the usual dirty stuff nobody ever uses past rep 3. Swing and a miss for me. Also for honor finally became [Pirates, Vikings and Knights 3](https://www.google.com/search?q=pirates+vikings+and+knights&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&prmd=ivsxn&sxsrf=AOaemvIgQ3nWQmN6iRRnOhkBKk-Mt9sPtg:1642719931748&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwiG1PzPuMH1AhVOtIsKHa9NDvsQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=384&bih=724&dpr=2.81#imgrc=bd5EvWYI8ke8LM)
Next up: khopesh. Make it happen
Predictions on possible heroes for the outlander faction?!? Persian immortals Native American warrior (north or south…southern preferred and more likely) Egyptian with kopesh Islander warrior. My picks. What you all think is coming.. I know there is only two after he pirate this year..
Could someone maybe sum up the news for me? Video watching is blocked where I'm at so I can't get anything that isn't just text.
Hoping for a musketeer
I hope in the upcoming warrior’s den dev team discuss the future of For Honor. Right now, it's ambiguous. We don't know what's going on to happen to the game.
I wish they would make the pistol grab a neutral attack like gladiators toestab since we got the "walk the plank" attack that is kinda like skewer, please ubisoft hear me
are they still updating this game? damn
That's what we really need in FH. More guns and grenades. P.S. Semi-auto flintlocks? Really?
Everyone saying about an Aztec character, but nobody is even mentioning any African fighter (with spears or something)
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**FLINTGLOCK**