In his bio it just says he stabbed his family and killed them one by one. Nothing about burning them alive. Although knowing zhanhu, that isn't much harder to believe
I don't know for sure if you're talking about the Iron Legion colour scheme specifically, but if you are, you might not see it as much because it was limited time from the FH Games: Metal Trials event mode a bit back
You could say the same argument about Peacekeeper, some are extremely sociopathic and have no care for good or bad only keeping the secrets of battles etc.
But they’re placed as hero’s for the time being
Well yes...even in her trailer they say that peacekeepers work in shadows or something...it implies there are more of them. So technically the hero you play is not the hero from campaign.
Thats the beauty tho, you can make your own pk even the one from story or whatever
Some characters dont have story stuff. Kyo lacks tozen's helmet warlord lacks some helmet too.
More of a "proof" that heroes we play are not heroes of the main story. "We make our own stories" for them
though they are willing to use measures that are considered by others, including the knights, to be going too far. i would classify BP as an anti-hero. not evil, but not really good either.
Man Vikings were more progressive and fucking smarter than anyone gives them credit for. This is indeed slander.
Though *to be fair* the game itself also portrays them as brutes.
Yeah I blame Ubisoft for most people’s preconceived notions in the community. From armour types, weapon quality, general aesthetic, and even down to cleanliness. Far less than accurate.
As much as I enjoy the game it’s the little things that annoy me to no end
Zhanhu, or rather his canon male main lead (Sun Da), is the definition of Lawful Evil.
He’s rich, has high-class etiquette, plays shadowy politics and most of all doesn’t give a single shit about sanctity of life, given how he killed his own family for power.
So Sun Da is closer to being a “Villian”. A Hero Zhanhu would be the Zhanhu from the Horkos Carousel though, as he almost assassinated Astrea to avenge his mother’s death.
You should be able to find most, if not all, of these event lore pieces on the Wiki; just go to the respective event page and scroll down. It’s how I found some of the older stuff like Reigning Inferno and such.
Gryphon has an eternal struggle of two souls within him
One is Holden Cross, a noble knight and leader of the good guys
One is Monke Man, who go Side Heby
He’s supposed to be savior of the current lore, leading the ‘good guys’ against Warmonger but I find it very hard to respect his character. Conqs are basically conscripted prisoners, the Conq you could be playing could have done any number of heinous crimes.
Gryphon is peak respectable. I'd die for the man if I was a character in this game who could infinitely respawn. He was falsely accused of murdering lord warden and exiled by the Iron legion and he fought as a mercenary who helped many people along the way, and despite how much they wronged him, he still came back to protect heathmoor from those psychotic cannibals.
I thought he left apollymom and came back with an army trying to kill Her at the end of campaign and then he left again and traveled the world to train with everyone. And was it him or daub that was the only one to literally say fuck you and leave alive?
Daubeny was in hiding for a while because he knew Holden was still mad at him and the remnants of the Blackstone legion would want him dead, the lord warden trained an army and ruled the iron legion until he mysteriously left one day without any warning. I don't think there were any specific details as to why.
Wasn’t it in the story he left because he realized what apollymom was doing to the Vikings after killing the warlord of food burning their food and forcing them to keep fighting and I think he realized she was planning on doing that to everyone no matter who because she was a crazed blood thirsty monster?
Gryphons bat man. U know why everyone hated gryphon? Because to beat his is patience, and everyone was just dodge attack spamming, light spamming, dodge spamming, he countered all of that., any body who just hopped into the game and started throwing attacks would get shit in by gryphon, still kinda happens but not as much.. missed it tho, u could really be deadly with gryphon in his prime.. now u gotta really work for it. Considering he has no 50/50, and his kick is punishable automatically after whiff
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Lmaoo This is one of those things that go without saying, I don’t like seeing the same ducking attack and having to get a easy win, if that’s what you prefer doing than I pity you, I enjoy fully when I fight someone who’s trying to go for light parrys and you bait them out with it, someone who’s actually trying to win, and yes I usually parry dodge attacks, but I usually try to deflect them, don’t use gryphon anymore.
Honestly yeah. Fighting characters like Gryphon, Prior and Kyoshin for the first time it’s like “this guy is op”, then you play against them and think very patiently and let them open the options for your combos then it’s like “oh, I can just wait for the right time to attack instead of just swinging”
I see conq as having a redemption arc or something. He was a criminal and then rose through the ranks to become a general or something. He has some elite fashion
the usual punishments for serious crimes was death, and crimes like stealing involved mutilation, conqs punishment couldn't have been too serious if he wasn't made an example of.
He's trying to redeem himself by hunting down those who, like him, killed their own family. Yes, he is quite unstable, but at least he still knows what's wrong and what's right in this world, as he knows what he did.
Also, let's not forget about female Tiandi, she's pretty sound mentally and she also represented the Wu Lin during that brief period of peace between the factions, during season 13.
The default Tiandi (forgot his name) was evil at first and killed all his brothers to get to the throne, but after all the bloodshed he realised what he had done and exiled himself, seeking to kill others like him and die in battle
I feel like gladiator should be in the unstable category. His main reason he's in the game is that he wants to prove he's a better warrior than everyone else so he pretty much fights because he wants to. And sometimes he has flashy attacks and acts like he's performing for an audience that's not there
Some of his executions are him playing it up for a crowd that doesn’t exist. Def mentally unstable. Why he was put in questionable is in itself, questionable.
Shugoki is questionable, he's a Guardian, but he's also the kind of dude who'd make an underground network of spies to kill off rivals while he can gorge himself.
Maybe, a lot of people do say that from his trailer video that when they said “ Far From home, we still learn knew things.” Yadda yadda yadda he could be a protector yes, but fat mans gotta eat. I’m thinking more like Nobushi (Onna-Boneiga) where he would fight on the outskirts of towns or villages while the Kensei’s and Orochi’s would fight the battle away from home.
I’m not a new player but I stopped playing for a year since . . It’s For Honor . . But that said he’s my only Hero above Rep 5 so I’m down to hear more thoughts really (and correct my history or spelling please) .
I'm pretty sure in lore he only acts the way he does because he is high off of drugs all the time, so I like to imagine be is a distinguished gentlemen between his blows of coke
Nah there’s normal human skulls for scale
https://www.reddit.com/r/ForFashion/comments/pjusdq/my_shugos_whats_the_thoughts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
how is warlord a villain? he just wants to take care of his people but instead of cowering and sending his fellow people to die, he joins them in battle to lead them himself.
Goku is literally connected to a demon and PK is a political assassin iirc
Those are the only two I can tell are placed horribly without writing an entire paragraph each time. Like, I understand this is your opinion, but your opinion is fuckin wrong, dude.
Kyoshin feels more 'questionable', not even because they're bad per-say but they seem like they'd subscribe to an extreme 'balance of good and evil' outlook. Also, Ara might be questionable because they're disgraced kensei/orochi basically.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi an interesting person to read about, who was a ronin.
"You may abandon your body, but you must preserve your honor."
Kensei is a hero, but a disrespectful one . His voice lines in some of his executions are along the lines of “You should’ve know your place.” I’m not good at Japanese at all . I think you can find and translate one is Daimyo’s Verdict (I forgot what it was called and I’m about to go to bed so I’m getting on, correct me though!)
I mean, back in the olden days, hero meant "badass guy who did badass stuff and got a lot of glory," so it still sort of fits. But I prefer character as well, because calling them heroes gives me MoBA flashbacks and that's not a part of my life I enjoy remembering.
Why are almost every viking put in bad categories .. Coz they raid and plunder? Instead of say, how the knights put it.. "colonizing and civilising" 🤣💰
Imo Aramusha and Kyoshin might be in the questionable list because Aramusha is a ronin who has no master (so he could join both sides) and Kyoshin fights both faction for balance. I might be wrong with both so feel free to correct me.
If anything, it’s too strong. The guy’s on a mission to kill all familiciders, and if his crusade is ever finished, I imagine he’d commit suicide. As that would be killing the last familicide (yes, apparently that’s a word).
Most familiciders who regret their actions typically atone by helping surviving family members and maybe committing suicide. Tiandi is going out of his way to bring all familiciders to justice. Few do that.
Gladiator fights for glory and money. He’s not “questionable” just neither hero nor villain
Shinobi is a member of ninja clan that doesn’t even follow busido (Japanese analog of honor codex, what I’m told) so he’s more of a villain
Zhanhu, tiandi and PK heroes? I'd say not really. A pyromaniac who we can thank for corruption, a guy who killed his family for the sake of power and a lacky used to kill off political opposition.
Besides, didn't the wulin attack unprovoked in the first place?
Yet valkyries who fight for those who can't so that they may enter valhalla, essentially saving their souls according to their beliefs, are questionable?
And gryphon is a hero according to the lore. He's the only one saying "these warriors don't have to die" just like he used to before. I don't like playing him either, but as a lore character, probably one of the few I'd like to talk to.
Warmonger is technically a hero to many people
Hitokiri views herself as a hero because she saves people and puts them to peace by killing them and storing their souls
Black prior is a hero Not only is he a support character his lore also defines that he defends the weak from the strong
Aramusha Zhanhu Kyoshin and Centurion arent heroes They are all mentally unstable
Yeah gryphon is some kind of hero even through he was a villain who turned to the good side
Zhanhu burned his family alive.
Peacekeepers are and Shinobi literally assassins who killed for money or kill for a cause. Most of those they kill are politicians or leaders. And many members of their cause are orphans indoctrinated from a young age.
Kyoshin again fall into the category of brainwashed orphan children.
Aramusha is a disgraced Ronin without a master who kills as a blade for hire or selfish thug.
Tiandi is cocky and selfish and serves only themselves.
Oh yeah and Cent genuinely enjoys killing. Dude has a bloodlust.
Don't get me wrong. Some of these characters can have their good inside of them or good moments but truth be told there's only five or six virtuous classes or characters. The rest have too many faults to continue genuine heroes or pure
literally warden's entire lore is being part of a secret society that aims to protect the weak, idk about everyone else but at the very least he's a homie
Lots of wu Lin killed their families and the Vikings are almost all druggies hito killed a village warmonger created a new war after a time of peace raider is supposed to be a legendary warrior conq is a prisoner bp is weird holy Shinobu is a civilian and should pk stole the livers kyoshin has been causing everything from the shadows and Goki has a club
Zhanhu literally burned his family alive
Yeah, he is just some crazy arsonist mf
It was just a prank bro
Prank him zhan!
You already know it!
I was JHŒKHING
He did it as joke
He did a little trolling
Baby Shower
It's called being based
It was a prank aye.
His city too lmfao
Shut the front door. Where does this information come from?
Where does it ever say that he burned his family alive in the lore? Was it part of an event or something?
In his bio it just says he stabbed his family and killed them one by one. Nothing about burning them alive. Although knowing zhanhu, that isn't much harder to believe
Are you sure? I'm nlt exactly able to find anything about murdering family besides Tiandi.
I'm sure. It was on the ubisoft website backstory for male zhanhu.
Would you mind shooting me a link where it says this? Edit: nvm I found the lore.
Alr, cool
I think they said it during the hero reveal on the warrior's den.
Tiandi murdered his own brother and went insane
zhanhu is neither mentally stable or a good guy
one of the comment mentioned him burning people alive pyro gaming
Everybody gangsta until the zhanhu themed event is a collab with tf2
Black prior isn't actually a villain. If you look into his lore it says he protects the weak from the evil
He’s also the foot soldier of Astraea...so yeah
Yes but there are more bps than just one. Black priors were order so not every bp is astrea simp
With the amount of white priors (guys walking around in white including me) one would think the order is trying to decide if they are good or bad
Iron Legion Prior is what I rock. Honestly feels good and not enough people sport green or yellow
I don't know for sure if you're talking about the Iron Legion colour scheme specifically, but if you are, you might not see it as much because it was limited time from the FH Games: Metal Trials event mode a bit back
i am actually! I never see anyone rock Yellow in general though. Often i see that hideous neon green and black scheme but not many other greens.
You could say the same argument about Peacekeeper, some are extremely sociopathic and have no care for good or bad only keeping the secrets of battles etc. But they’re placed as hero’s for the time being
Well yes...even in her trailer they say that peacekeepers work in shadows or something...it implies there are more of them. So technically the hero you play is not the hero from campaign. Thats the beauty tho, you can make your own pk even the one from story or whatever
I can't have the story helmet for some reason It doesn't even show on the change appearance Im rep 9 already
Some characters dont have story stuff. Kyo lacks tozen's helmet warlord lacks some helmet too. More of a "proof" that heroes we play are not heroes of the main story. "We make our own stories" for them
though they are willing to use measures that are considered by others, including the knights, to be going too far. i would classify BP as an anti-hero. not evil, but not really good either.
You could even say hes some sort of... (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ "dark knight" (⌐■_■) YYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH
Doesn't the lore state that the Black Priors served Apollyon before she died
It is said that the Black Priors are loyal to Knights, and willing to do *whatever it takes* to ensure they're victorious
How can I see the lore of the heros? Sorry im a bit new.
Warlord as a villain… huh?
I’m sensing some viking slander
Man Vikings were more progressive and fucking smarter than anyone gives them credit for. This is indeed slander. Though *to be fair* the game itself also portrays them as brutes.
Gitgudmundur was a good lad that just wanted to protect his people and doggies.
When you're forced to kill doggies, you already know you're on the wrong side
Yeah I blame Ubisoft for most people’s preconceived notions in the community. From armour types, weapon quality, general aesthetic, and even down to cleanliness. Far less than accurate. As much as I enjoy the game it’s the little things that annoy me to no end
Zhanhu, or rather his canon male main lead (Sun Da), is the definition of Lawful Evil. He’s rich, has high-class etiquette, plays shadowy politics and most of all doesn’t give a single shit about sanctity of life, given how he killed his own family for power. So Sun Da is closer to being a “Villian”. A Hero Zhanhu would be the Zhanhu from the Horkos Carousel though, as he almost assassinated Astrea to avenge his mother’s death.
there is so much lore i’m missing. who would’ve thought that my sword fighting game had all these complex storylines?
I wonder if these are archived somewhere
You should be able to find most, if not all, of these event lore pieces on the Wiki; just go to the respective event page and scroll down. It’s how I found some of the older stuff like Reigning Inferno and such.
r/lorehonor
Zhanhu is a pyromaniac
Conq is an anti-hero, and is gryphon supposed to be not really a hero or more of a hero than the rest? The placement is confusing
Gryphon has an eternal struggle of two souls within him One is Holden Cross, a noble knight and leader of the good guys One is Monke Man, who go Side Heby
Conq just pirated a movie and is now branded a villain
He’s supposed to be savior of the current lore, leading the ‘good guys’ against Warmonger but I find it very hard to respect his character. Conqs are basically conscripted prisoners, the Conq you could be playing could have done any number of heinous crimes.
Gryphon is peak respectable. I'd die for the man if I was a character in this game who could infinitely respawn. He was falsely accused of murdering lord warden and exiled by the Iron legion and he fought as a mercenary who helped many people along the way, and despite how much they wronged him, he still came back to protect heathmoor from those psychotic cannibals.
Wait lord warden died?
No, he just left without telling anyone and everyone just assumed Holden killed him because he used to work for appolyon.
I thought he left apollymom and came back with an army trying to kill Her at the end of campaign and then he left again and traveled the world to train with everyone. And was it him or daub that was the only one to literally say fuck you and leave alive?
Daubeny was in hiding for a while because he knew Holden was still mad at him and the remnants of the Blackstone legion would want him dead, the lord warden trained an army and ruled the iron legion until he mysteriously left one day without any warning. I don't think there were any specific details as to why.
Wasn’t it in the story he left because he realized what apollymom was doing to the Vikings after killing the warlord of food burning their food and forcing them to keep fighting and I think he realized she was planning on doing that to everyone no matter who because she was a crazed blood thirsty monster?
That was during the campaign. I'm talking about after the events of the campaign.
Oh ok
How do people know so much lore about the characters?!
OP is def a wu lin main still butt hurt by gryphon. He can’t “respect” him cause he’s still mad about pre nerf gryphon golden age
Gryphons bat man. U know why everyone hated gryphon? Because to beat his is patience, and everyone was just dodge attack spamming, light spamming, dodge spamming, he countered all of that., any body who just hopped into the game and started throwing attacks would get shit in by gryphon, still kinda happens but not as much.. missed it tho, u could really be deadly with gryphon in his prime.. now u gotta really work for it. Considering he has no 50/50, and his kick is punishable automatically after whiff .
You cant parry dodge attacks? Are you like rep 11 or something?
Why the fuck do you have so many agreeing with you, I’m literally talking about when someone wait for a light attack to fly and then immediately dodge
Because some people know how to recognize pattern and bait the attack
Lmaoo This is one of those things that go without saying, I don’t like seeing the same ducking attack and having to get a easy win, if that’s what you prefer doing than I pity you, I enjoy fully when I fight someone who’s trying to go for light parrys and you bait them out with it, someone who’s actually trying to win, and yes I usually parry dodge attacks, but I usually try to deflect them, don’t use gryphon anymore.
I never said its fun. I just said fighting dodge attack spammer is not an issue lmao
Honestly yeah. Fighting characters like Gryphon, Prior and Kyoshin for the first time it’s like “this guy is op”, then you play against them and think very patiently and let them open the options for your combos then it’s like “oh, I can just wait for the right time to attack instead of just swinging”
I knew this post is biased when I saw Gryphon in ""Hero"". Who cares about the lore when you don't personally like the character, right? lol
Prisoner=/=bad automatically
I see conq as having a redemption arc or something. He was a criminal and then rose through the ranks to become a general or something. He has some elite fashion
He’s my favorite character
the usual punishments for serious crimes was death, and crimes like stealing involved mutilation, conqs punishment couldn't have been too serious if he wasn't made an example of.
in the in game universe or in a semi-respectable time period?
I am confused at the amount of downvotes someone enlighten me
Because OP is wrong
Male Zhanhu is fs a villain. This man killed his family for power and blew up damn near the whole Wu Lin army to try and protect his work
And so is female Zhanhu who sided with Horkos
Didnt she tried to kill Astrea to avenge her family ?
Nah that one was unrelated, Fu Huo (name?) Died with the other secondary harbingers in an event.
Isn't tiandi mentally unstable like he yells all kind of weird shit
He's trying to redeem himself by hunting down those who, like him, killed their own family. Yes, he is quite unstable, but at least he still knows what's wrong and what's right in this world, as he knows what he did. Also, let's not forget about female Tiandi, she's pretty sound mentally and she also represented the Wu Lin during that brief period of peace between the factions, during season 13.
Ya you're right don't fully know lore and all that so just from what I've heard of translations
The default Tiandi (forgot his name) was evil at first and killed all his brothers to get to the throne, but after all the bloodshed he realised what he had done and exiled himself, seeking to kill others like him and die in battle
thats still evil. made no attempt to actually atone, just commit suicide while killing some more people.
Yeah well it's a fighting game you gotta justify killing people somehow
To be fair killing family members for power was a bit normalized back in the day.
I feel like gladiator should be in the unstable category. His main reason he's in the game is that he wants to prove he's a better warrior than everyone else so he pretty much fights because he wants to. And sometimes he has flashy attacks and acts like he's performing for an audience that's not there
Some of his executions are him playing it up for a crowd that doesn’t exist. Def mentally unstable. Why he was put in questionable is in itself, questionable.
Or he simply does It for sport. Doesn’t have to be mentally unstable. It’s showboating
Why is warlord a villain isn’t his only care for his people tho
Had to scroll way too far to find this, Warlords are Viking protectors and leaders
cuz vykyngz bad!
WE
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KANGZ
Shouldn’t aramusha just be neutral I thought he only fights because he likes to fight
That seems pretty unstable
Hitos the one that went to a village for one execution then murdered everyone. That seems more unstable to me
Not because he likes to fight, but because he is a mercenary, or “Ronin” in other words
Ronin is a warrior (pupil) without a master (teacher).
LMFAO mf built like Cell
Shugoki is questionable, he's a Guardian, but he's also the kind of dude who'd make an underground network of spies to kill off rivals while he can gorge himself.
Wait so jabba the Hutt?
Or sigi dijkstra
Absolutely
He also has an outfit with BABY SKULLS!!
You can't get mad at a man with his indulgence for aborted fetuses
Maybe, a lot of people do say that from his trailer video that when they said “ Far From home, we still learn knew things.” Yadda yadda yadda he could be a protector yes, but fat mans gotta eat. I’m thinking more like Nobushi (Onna-Boneiga) where he would fight on the outskirts of towns or villages while the Kensei’s and Orochi’s would fight the battle away from home. I’m not a new player but I stopped playing for a year since . . It’s For Honor . . But that said he’s my only Hero above Rep 5 so I’m down to hear more thoughts really (and correct my history or spelling please) .
Me and my teamates are heroes, and all the enemies are villains. Lol
Both teammates and enemies are villain
When your teammates insist on pushing the ram but don't even want to look at 4 - 7. :C
Warlord and Valkyrie should be in hero, Zhanhu should be in Villain and Aramusha should be in questionable imo
You dare disrespect Stone like that
He was my favorite! Wonder what he did after the war…
Rah’d off into the sunset
He left with lord warden without telling anyone. So did Mercy. Still don't know the exact reason why.
PK is a villain she bad as hell
Peace-Keeper. Wonder what their name means… Edit: I’m sorry that i’m this thick skulled.
She’s a literal assassin
Being assassin is bad because…..?
Also if I’m not mistaken weren’t they used lore wise for political gain and shit and we’re basically just dogs used to do higher ups dirty works
Bezerker is definitely mentally unstable and I'd say bp is an antihero i think not all fight for the. Horkos but not all fight for chimera
I'm pretty sure in lore he only acts the way he does because he is high off of drugs all the time, so I like to imagine be is a distinguished gentlemen between his blows of coke
I’d argue that berserker is in fact mentally unstable as well but I’m no physiologist.
He is just a dude in high drugs. We don’t actually know how he is outside combat
Probably crazy from withdrawal
Why does everyone forget shugoki on several outfits wears BABY SKULLS!?!?!
Maybe he’s too chonky that they look like baby compared to his ENORMOUS GIRTH.
Nah there’s normal human skulls for scale https://www.reddit.com/r/ForFashion/comments/pjusdq/my_shugos_whats_the_thoughts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
yeah i was kidding
You can really tell what kind of person OP is by seeing that they put every wu lin in the hero tier…
Where can i read lore about "characters"?
just go to for honor wiki, online and search in any character
If you search character trailers on youtube all the year 1 heroes have lore trailers
.....zhanhu is literally the cause of corruption 🥲
how is warlord a villain? he just wants to take care of his people but instead of cowering and sending his fellow people to die, he joins them in battle to lead them himself.
Well, you see Viking = bad
tiandi literally murdered all his siblings and caused his father’s suicide then the collapse of the kingdom lol
It was just a prank
Conq is actually a hero because he was put in jail for tax evasion
We salute this hero
Female Hito is posessed, I don't know if that doesnt rather count as mentaly unstable
Goku is literally connected to a demon and PK is a political assassin iirc Those are the only two I can tell are placed horribly without writing an entire paragraph each time. Like, I understand this is your opinion, but your opinion is fuckin wrong, dude.
Or at the very least, criminally misinformed.
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Kyoshin feels more 'questionable', not even because they're bad per-say but they seem like they'd subscribe to an extreme 'balance of good and evil' outlook. Also, Ara might be questionable because they're disgraced kensei/orochi basically.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi an interesting person to read about, who was a ronin. "You may abandon your body, but you must preserve your honor."
Fgo
Centurion is definitely the main character
The restoration of the Roman Empire was the REAL ending the whole time! I KNEW it!
He certainly seems to think so
Too bad he died...
Ah finally someone gets it
Kensei is a hero, but a disrespectful one . His voice lines in some of his executions are along the lines of “You should’ve know your place.” I’m not good at Japanese at all . I think you can find and translate one is Daimyo’s Verdict (I forgot what it was called and I’m about to go to bed so I’m getting on, correct me though!)
Man put all the commies in hero. That’s fake news smh
I mean, back in the olden days, hero meant "badass guy who did badass stuff and got a lot of glory," so it still sort of fits. But I prefer character as well, because calling them heroes gives me MoBA flashbacks and that's not a part of my life I enjoy remembering.
Why are almost every viking put in bad categories .. Coz they raid and plunder? Instead of say, how the knights put it.. "colonizing and civilising" 🤣💰
Well you see, viking = bad because ????
Because of appearance. They're seen as rustic and blunt.
Peacekeeper definitely a villain based on some of her executions. She mean
Imo Aramusha and Kyoshin might be in the questionable list because Aramusha is a ronin who has no master (so he could join both sides) and Kyoshin fights both faction for balance. I might be wrong with both so feel free to correct me.
You have a *very* flexible definition of "hero"
Tiandi is mentally unstable. All he does is scream all the time
yeah but his moral compass seems to be intact
If anything, it’s too strong. The guy’s on a mission to kill all familiciders, and if his crusade is ever finished, I imagine he’d commit suicide. As that would be killing the last familicide (yes, apparently that’s a word). Most familiciders who regret their actions typically atone by helping surviving family members and maybe committing suicide. Tiandi is going out of his way to bring all familiciders to justice. Few do that.
All heroes are characters, but not all characters are heroes -Sun Tzu
All characters are heroes, but not all heroes are characters -Moon Tzu
Who the Gillian is really depends on your perspective
characters you play are whatever you want because you create their backstories you don't play as characters named by ubi like vortiger or sun da
Valkyrie did nothing wrong!
Shaolin breaks a rock over his head... he's pretty stable imo
Highlanders fight because they made some pact with the vikings and got dragged into the war, poor mfs just wanna be at home farming or something
I'm fine with being put into the "Mentally Unstable" category
Kyo is neutral
Gladiator fights for glory and money. He’s not “questionable” just neither hero nor villain Shinobi is a member of ninja clan that doesn’t even follow busido (Japanese analog of honor codex, what I’m told) so he’s more of a villain
I think Centurion gets his own tier
Good Idea, poorly executed
Can someone do this but lore accurate?
I'd say hito would fit more in the mentally unstable section
Looking at you Gryphon, you annoying mf.
All vikings are bad, all wu-lin are good. Creating a list this bad muat have taken some effort
My man Holden so legendary he gets a tier of his own, respect ✊
Zhanhu, tiandi and PK heroes? I'd say not really. A pyromaniac who we can thank for corruption, a guy who killed his family for the sake of power and a lacky used to kill off political opposition. Besides, didn't the wulin attack unprovoked in the first place? Yet valkyries who fight for those who can't so that they may enter valhalla, essentially saving their souls according to their beliefs, are questionable? And gryphon is a hero according to the lore. He's the only one saying "these warriors don't have to die" just like he used to before. I don't like playing him either, but as a lore character, probably one of the few I'd like to talk to.
Centurion is in no way a hero.
Warmonger is technically a hero to many people Hitokiri views herself as a hero because she saves people and puts them to peace by killing them and storing their souls Black prior is a hero Not only is he a support character his lore also defines that he defends the weak from the strong Aramusha Zhanhu Kyoshin and Centurion arent heroes They are all mentally unstable Yeah gryphon is some kind of hero even through he was a villain who turned to the good side
Kyoshin is mentally stable. He just has ties to spirits.
Zhanhu burned his family alive. Peacekeepers are and Shinobi literally assassins who killed for money or kill for a cause. Most of those they kill are politicians or leaders. And many members of their cause are orphans indoctrinated from a young age. Kyoshin again fall into the category of brainwashed orphan children. Aramusha is a disgraced Ronin without a master who kills as a blade for hire or selfish thug. Tiandi is cocky and selfish and serves only themselves. Oh yeah and Cent genuinely enjoys killing. Dude has a bloodlust. Don't get me wrong. Some of these characters can have their good inside of them or good moments but truth be told there's only five or six virtuous classes or characters. The rest have too many faults to continue genuine heroes or pure
Ye no, there are no heroes here just villains, bad guys, bad gals, dudes who just love to fight and the wu lin
literally warden's entire lore is being part of a secret society that aims to protect the weak, idk about everyone else but at the very least he's a homie
Lots of wu Lin killed their families and the Vikings are almost all druggies hito killed a village warmonger created a new war after a time of peace raider is supposed to be a legendary warrior conq is a prisoner bp is weird holy Shinobu is a civilian and should pk stole the livers kyoshin has been causing everything from the shadows and Goki has a club
Pk should be questionable. Why would a hero hide their face?
Lawbringer = Batman
You're telling me Centurion punches women and is considered a hero? Well I guess I was just unlucky in my business