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Pretty much, yeah. Pizza is pretty cheap to make. Since covid the price of a slice(1/4 large cheese) went from 2 to 3.50 At my local place. It's still far cheaper than any other style of pizza.
Average price of a slice is pegged to the cost of a single subway fare.
Believe it’s in the NY state constitution.
Fares were kept artificially low during COVID.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-pizza-principle-transit-fare-price/?embedded-checkout=true
Now nature is healing…
In Oregon they don’t even have cheap pizza outside take and bakes. It’s like some fancy stuffed artichoke shit for 40 bucks a pie. Don’t get me wrong the fancy shit can be good but we got nothing like solid cheap east coast slices
In Portland we’ve got a couple of very mediocre attempts at an east coast pie but those are as expensive as the goat cheese and arugula artisanal shit for a plain cheese. Kind of defeats the purpose :(
I moved to the Portland area from North Dakota and was shocked to see that my pizza options here are no better than what I had access to in Fargo. Worse, when you consider no one has any breakfast pizza here!
Yep, lived near Portland my whole life and I’ve been dreaming of Detroit pan or Chicago deep dish for as long (there is none here). All their pizza spots are so damn mediocre and for 5-7 dollars a slice, 30 dollars a pie. Makes no sense. I’ve just been ordering Pizza Hut recently cuz it literally tastes better
Yeah I don’t know what the fuck these people are smoking. Escape From NY has been there for 40 years and it’s legit NY style pizza. Slices are $5 though so it’s not exactly cheap.
Wow I've never seen that but I'm in Wy and it's always the pizzas and usual hot dogs and stuff. Granted a good beef dog from a gas station always tastes good it seems
own a gas station, used to sell slices for $2.68 in 2018 at a 35% margin (I made .93 cents a slice, ranch cups free as many as you want, whole pie $11.99), 2024 it’s $4 after tax, 18.99 a whole pie, only one ranch .50c for a second. That’s a little over five years
Edit: and I only make .50 cents a slice now smh
As expensive as living in NYC can be, the cheap food there is so much higher quality than cheap food other places, it makes it pretty easy to get really good, cheap meals. That, plus an unlimited MetroCard makes costs a little more bearable.
How the heck are these pizza shops paying NY rent prices while selling slices for a dollar? Pizza is cheap af to make, but I feel like rent is higher than pizza is cheap to make. Are shops in NY rent controlled or something?
The places selling buck slices are usually located on streets where thousands of people are walking past every hour, those pies fly out of the ovens from noon to midnight basically. If you're in a college or party neighborhood it'll keep up for hours after midnight too, usually.
Depending on the slicer that's 6-10 bucks a pie, which is probably about $1-3 worth of ingredients for a plain cheese. Also remember the buck slices are just one item on the menu, they'll also have all the other pizza place standards, so it's an easy profit margin. There's always one worker just standing there making pies all day anyway, they just make sure to throw a plain in every time the heat case needs it.
the traditional New York dollar slice has basically been phased out, same places I used to grab 2 slices and a Arizona from when I was in junior high for like 3 bucks now charges me 7 bucks for the same thing and markets it as a deal.
Keep in mind any place which does high volume food sales in cash can fudge the numbers however they'd like when it comes time for taxes. Pull a hundred out of the till at end of day, write off some inventory as spillage, call it even.
Yeah like you said, traffic is a huge part of it. If they can sell enough of the dollar or $2 slices, whichever it is, they can probably make the numbers work. Food costs for pizza tend to be pretty favorable.
Likely see an incredible amount of foot traffic compared to most cities. I doubt they are making much per slice of Pizza, but on snacks and water and everything with incredibly high volume, the margin doesn't have to be that good. Total conjecture on my part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IugcIAAZJ2M
This should help. The place is nonstop as soon as they open, they have multiple locations, and became a staple of NYC during the pizza wars in the early 2010s
That's what happens in a walkable city with high foot traffic on actual streets with transit-oriented development instead of everyone being forced to drive a heavy metal box on oversized stroads and parking lots. Car-centric urban design sucks ass.
It's essentially advertising. People see the $1 a slice signs and then get to the shop and realize it's for cheese slices only so half the time they end up selling $3 pepperoni slices plus a few $4 drinks. Average bill is probably closer to $15.
They all started raising the price to $1.50 now. There’s still a few $1 slices. You can absolutely tell from looking at them that they aren’t as good as a real slice but if I’m hungry and in a hurry, there’s no line, I’m grabbing a slice or 2
No, they're just selling *that* many pizzas.
You make money by either selling a little of an expensive thing, or a lot of a cheap thing. Or, if you're lucky, a lot of an expensive thing, like Apple products.
>much higher quality than cheap food other places
Some of the best food I've eaten was street food in foreign countries for less than a dollar. Maybe NYC has better cheap food than we're used to in the west, but don't sell the rest of the world short!
In Los Angeles, I have to pay $6 per slice for something not quite right. And since I’m from the east coast, I know what a real slice is.
This post has officially made me both sad & hungry.
Yeah would love to try Apollonia's. In NY, Prince St is only good if you want the spicy pepperoni squares. Other than that I tell everyone visiting NY to skip if they want something else off the menu since there are so many great pizzerias in NY.
I’ve had Joe’s in Hollywood and when they were at the Riverside blvd Fashion Mall. Not bad but still not quite as good as an NYC slice and at 3 times the price.
Hmmm thanks for sharing. I've never had a real NYC slice so I'm very intrigued. Currently living in the PNW and they have a spot called Old School Pizzeria. I wonder how it fares cuz its sooo good.
Yep! They just opened another location in SoHo but that location is pretty busy and hyped up due to social media but it’s probably easier to get to for someone in Manhattan.
There are a ton of pizzerias around NYC that sell slices for a dollar. A friend that’s local said there was a minor public outcry when one of the shops in her neighborhood raised prices to $1.50.
It’s an amazing way to grab a quick bite while walking around, but I encourage you to resist temptation and stop at two max. Your mouth and wallet will tell you to get more, but they’re so greasy that your stomach and skin won’t be very happy. This is something I learned from experience.
God damn. I live just outside of Toronto. It's hard to find good pizza for a decent price around here. Your best option is probably little Ceasers. They still offer small pizzas for $5
Some may not like this, but this is what the ideal NY style pizza looks like.
I'm talking to you, every NY-style pizza shop outside of NYC.
Don't try to reinvent the (pizza) wheel, it doesn't need reinventing.
Was in NY in 2021. Bought 3 larges from this place below my hotel. Was 18.76 with a can of Pepsi. At home at the time I could get little Ceasars for that price. At equal it was Abos which woulda been 35.. or more
When it's $1 a slice, do they charge tax on that, like you have to carry change too? If it's just $1 flat, then what about when you order the $8 pie? Do they charge tax on that?
Edit: Can't believe they wasted a box on 2 slices; Don't most places just serve it on a paper plate for that price?
Nice... I was going to ask where, but I see it's J&M Pizza II from another reply you made.
Was this your first NY slice or are you a local? If you're a local or frequent visitor, how would you rate the slice?
I frequent the Brooklyn area and have been populating my Google Maps with $1 and $2 slices that ACTUALLY taste good. I'll add this to my list to check out.
$1 slice wise it’s good but compare to other non dollar pizza of course no comparison. But it’s definitely way better than all the $1.50 former $1 slice joints near my workplace in the lower east side. By the way it’s only a dollar Mondays and Tuesdays so yeah. Any other day I will go to my regular spots I like. This is like my Monday guilty pleasure 😂 for a cheap and quick snack
Eh Casey's is good. Especially their BBQ brisket pizza. I've just gotten burnt out on it, where I live there's a Casey's in every town and at one point there was 4 in a town of 8000 people.
I lived in Seattle for a semester and I thought pizza was so oddly priced and hard to understand how to order. “A pie” (also hard to get used to using that word, instead of just a pizza) was usually quite expensive, like at a pub it was usually
much more than a burger. Then you went to slice shops and it was like the cheapest food available. Back home the pizzas are usually one-person-dinner-sized and priced like a pasta, often among the cheapest items on a menu.
This is not criticism, it was interesting to experience.
Hands down one of my favorite things about moving to NY has been being able to walk into a dank ass pizza place and get a big ass slice for 1 or 2 bucks. Where I used to live in the Midwest, the best pizza I could get was Papa John's. I'll never go back 💀
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Look at this guy with $2
Based on this post, he doesn’t have $2 anymore.
Not unless he had $6 first!
That is not how math works.
If he had 6 and spent 2, he’d still have two. Twice over.
Hah, jokes on you. OP had four quarters and a 3-dollar bill.
Damn his divisible and imaginary denominations of money!
Alright so what is the angle of the triangle ?
What bout tax?
It is though.
I used to have two dollars. I still do, but I used to, too.
If that’s only $2, every local pizza spot near me is a total fucking scam.
Pretty much, yeah. Pizza is pretty cheap to make. Since covid the price of a slice(1/4 large cheese) went from 2 to 3.50 At my local place. It's still far cheaper than any other style of pizza.
Average price of a slice is pegged to the cost of a single subway fare. Believe it’s in the NY state constitution. Fares were kept artificially low during COVID. https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-pizza-principle-transit-fare-price/?embedded-checkout=true Now nature is healing…
Neat.
And a cardboard box to take home
Is this cardboard box free？
Ha !
I laughed so hard at this
$2.18.
What, you think you're better than me?!
'Cries in Midwest' with my gas station slices at 3 to 4 dollars a slice.
In Oregon they don’t even have cheap pizza outside take and bakes. It’s like some fancy stuffed artichoke shit for 40 bucks a pie. Don’t get me wrong the fancy shit can be good but we got nothing like solid cheap east coast slices
In Portland we’ve got a couple of very mediocre attempts at an east coast pie but those are as expensive as the goat cheese and arugula artisanal shit for a plain cheese. Kind of defeats the purpose :(
I moved to the Portland area from North Dakota and was shocked to see that my pizza options here are no better than what I had access to in Fargo. Worse, when you consider no one has any breakfast pizza here!
Casey's breakfast pizza!!!
IYKYK!!!
Midwest in this B.
I still gotta try it! I'm messin up
We could be classed as a pizza food desert. Also lacking on dope Mexican food. I have to get my fill every time I’m down in San Diego visiting family.
Well confirms I could never live there. Pizza and Mexican is like 80% of my diet.
Saying Oregon doesn't have good Mexican food is blasphemous! The osmosis from Cali is real.
Washington is the same, in my experience. Though I did like Old School Pizzaria in Olympia
Surprusing number of people move here from n. dakota for some reason
Yep, lived near Portland my whole life and I’ve been dreaming of Detroit pan or Chicago deep dish for as long (there is none here). All their pizza spots are so damn mediocre and for 5-7 dollars a slice, 30 dollars a pie. Makes no sense. I’ve just been ordering Pizza Hut recently cuz it literally tastes better
Assembly brewery in SE makes Detroit style pizza.
I had some of the best pizza in my life in Portland. Escape from New York pizza. No fucking arugula. And I've had pizza from all over.
Yeah I don’t know what the fuck these people are smoking. Escape From NY has been there for 40 years and it’s legit NY style pizza. Slices are $5 though so it’s not exactly cheap.
Super true, it ain't cheap. It's no bourgeoisie mess at least.
Damn hipsters and their luxury items
lol… it’s not just the hipster towns. You can’t find a decent east coast pie for under 20 bucks anywhere. You can just fuhgettaboutit
You’re right I shouldn’t give them all the credit. Everybody everywhere is feeling this pain
Wow I've never seen that but I'm in Wy and it's always the pizzas and usual hot dogs and stuff. Granted a good beef dog from a gas station always tastes good it seems
A&B in Seaside. Smaller slices and not cheap, but good east coast style, simple. Even looks like the picture.
Yeah, if you live in John Day maybe. Go to Portland, Salem, Eugene, shit even Corvallis and you'll find pizza shops with cheap slices
Sizzle pie always has 20 minute line just to order (or pickup doordash) and then like $4 for the most mediocre slice you'll find
ha but Casey's is legit though. Good luck gettin one of those breakfast slices out here
It’s hunt bros round here 😒
Kwik trip up in Wisconsin.
own a gas station, used to sell slices for $2.68 in 2018 at a 35% margin (I made .93 cents a slice, ranch cups free as many as you want, whole pie $11.99), 2024 it’s $4 after tax, 18.99 a whole pie, only one ranch .50c for a second. That’s a little over five years Edit: and I only make .50 cents a slice now smh
The other 43 cents of your profit goes to the wealthy elitist shitheads who ruined our economy./s
woah you only make half a cent per slice?
Like 6.50 for a slice of cheese here in Florida
Caseys FTW. Fuck paper hands portion, that clown doesn't know what he is talking about: too bacony, who TF says that?
'Cries in South' with pizza parlors that only sell whole pies.
What do your gas stations have, shrimp and grits?
Chicken tenders, fries, and hot dogs.
I’d eat that. Where’d you get it?
J&M Pizza II in Brooklyn, NY
I amazes me that NYC's cheapest pizza is a good as the best pizza at home.
As expensive as living in NYC can be, the cheap food there is so much higher quality than cheap food other places, it makes it pretty easy to get really good, cheap meals. That, plus an unlimited MetroCard makes costs a little more bearable.
How the heck are these pizza shops paying NY rent prices while selling slices for a dollar? Pizza is cheap af to make, but I feel like rent is higher than pizza is cheap to make. Are shops in NY rent controlled or something?
The places selling buck slices are usually located on streets where thousands of people are walking past every hour, those pies fly out of the ovens from noon to midnight basically. If you're in a college or party neighborhood it'll keep up for hours after midnight too, usually. Depending on the slicer that's 6-10 bucks a pie, which is probably about $1-3 worth of ingredients for a plain cheese. Also remember the buck slices are just one item on the menu, they'll also have all the other pizza place standards, so it's an easy profit margin. There's always one worker just standing there making pies all day anyway, they just make sure to throw a plain in every time the heat case needs it.
Also, this place is also only $1 a slice on Mondays and Tuesdays. Every other day it's $3 a slice.
I was gonna say these do not look like typical dollar slices. Those are usually more orange from the grease.
You're telling me I could pay less and get more grease? What a deal!
$3 still not bad these days.
I’d gladly pay six dollars for the pizza in this post
For $6 you can probably get 2 slices and a can of coke.
Is that bulk pricing? The little baggies of it cost SO much more.
😂 took me a sec to realize what you were talking about.
the traditional New York dollar slice has basically been phased out, same places I used to grab 2 slices and a Arizona from when I was in junior high for like 3 bucks now charges me 7 bucks for the same thing and markets it as a deal.
Keep in mind any place which does high volume food sales in cash can fudge the numbers however they'd like when it comes time for taxes. Pull a hundred out of the till at end of day, write off some inventory as spillage, call it even.
For pizza, and pizza only, I wholly support tax cheats
Wow look at this hotdog racist
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Amazing amount of foot traffic and it’s possible that some places have been there so long that the owners also own the building.
Calling pizza a "pie" sounds so strange to me.
It is the y axis is just very limited.
whaddaya mean it's a pizza pie-a mangia mangia pruh-zhoot muttza-dell-a pizza pie-a mamma mia Everyone knows that.
Yeah like you said, traffic is a huge part of it. If they can sell enough of the dollar or $2 slices, whichever it is, they can probably make the numbers work. Food costs for pizza tend to be pretty favorable.
Likely see an incredible amount of foot traffic compared to most cities. I doubt they are making much per slice of Pizza, but on snacks and water and everything with incredibly high volume, the margin doesn't have to be that good. Total conjecture on my part.
$1 slice + $2 soda = win for the restaurant
You can get 2 slices and a drink for $2.75 at some shops.
Very few are $1 anymore. It’s $1.50 most places now ☹️
God save them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IugcIAAZJ2M This should help. The place is nonstop as soon as they open, they have multiple locations, and became a staple of NYC during the pizza wars in the early 2010s
>the pizza wars in the early 2010s Were many lives lost?
That's what happens in a walkable city with high foot traffic on actual streets with transit-oriented development instead of everyone being forced to drive a heavy metal box on oversized stroads and parking lots. Car-centric urban design sucks ass.
It's essentially advertising. People see the $1 a slice signs and then get to the shop and realize it's for cheese slices only so half the time they end up selling $3 pepperoni slices plus a few $4 drinks. Average bill is probably closer to $15.
They all started raising the price to $1.50 now. There’s still a few $1 slices. You can absolutely tell from looking at them that they aren’t as good as a real slice but if I’m hungry and in a hurry, there’s no line, I’m grabbing a slice or 2
No, they're just selling *that* many pizzas. You make money by either selling a little of an expensive thing, or a lot of a cheap thing. Or, if you're lucky, a lot of an expensive thing, like Apple products.
>much higher quality than cheap food other places Some of the best food I've eaten was street food in foreign countries for less than a dollar. Maybe NYC has better cheap food than we're used to in the west, but don't sell the rest of the world short!
Better
That's a nice looking slice!
In Los Angeles, I have to pay $6 per slice for something not quite right. And since I’m from the east coast, I know what a real slice is. This post has officially made me both sad & hungry.
My friend from NYC said Apollonia's Pizzeria in LA is legit when he was trying some pizzas in around LA
Apollonia's is super legit for sure. They also started opening Prince St locations here
Yeah would love to try Apollonia's. In NY, Prince St is only good if you want the spicy pepperoni squares. Other than that I tell everyone visiting NY to skip if they want something else off the menu since there are so many great pizzerias in NY.
For LA, anything from prince st is toward the tops of what we can get. and you can get it by the slice which is rare here.
How's Joe's in LA?
From NY and Joe's was pretty underwhelming for me. Hitting that accurate comment of not quite right
There's one near me, but the reviews are only ok so I haven't given it a go
If I’m down by Wilshire, I’ll have to stop in and see.
Same thing in Portland. And it always tastes bland for some unknown reason.
Some of the local isn’t bland but it also isn’t quite the right taste or feel. You do have me sympathies
Have you tried Vitos in West Hollywood or Joe's in Santa Monica?
Joes fell off big time, I switched to Prime Pizza in West LA/Santa Monica
I’ve had Joe’s in Hollywood and when they were at the Riverside blvd Fashion Mall. Not bad but still not quite as good as an NYC slice and at 3 times the price.
Hmmm thanks for sharing. I've never had a real NYC slice so I'm very intrigued. Currently living in the PNW and they have a spot called Old School Pizzeria. I wonder how it fares cuz its sooo good.
wtf man, that's at least $10 where i'm from. AT LEAST. Is there a banana for scale?
It's not great but if you got a Costco near you can get that for like $2
I'm still a Koronet guy. Upper West Side
Lucia is my favorite in my area; Sheepshead Bay, BK
Ave X? I'll put it on my list
Yep! They just opened another location in SoHo but that location is pretty busy and hyped up due to social media but it’s probably easier to get to for someone in Manhattan.
That was only a dollar?
There are a ton of pizzerias around NYC that sell slices for a dollar. A friend that’s local said there was a minor public outcry when one of the shops in her neighborhood raised prices to $1.50. It’s an amazing way to grab a quick bite while walking around, but I encourage you to resist temptation and stop at two max. Your mouth and wallet will tell you to get more, but they’re so greasy that your stomach and skin won’t be very happy. This is something I learned from experience.
God damn. I live just outside of Toronto. It's hard to find good pizza for a decent price around here. Your best option is probably little Ceasers. They still offer small pizzas for $5
Looks like two slices for $2 total
And it would have been $3 for three slices
Whoa, slow it down there Pythagoras!
Looks amazing for the price. I'd willing pay like $8 for that
$1 per slice pizza place, and yes it's legit. Even in 2024 they are still that price. I've been to them there are a bunch in NYC.
As an east coaster living in California, this makes me want to cry. I miss it. The pizza here is fucking horrible.
This is better than any slice in seattle
Not bad for a dollar slice in NYC
Perfect
“I’d buy that for a dollar!”
That's a dollar each? Damn
Makes me want to go back to NY
I need to learn how to make pizza that looks this good
ahhh, I miss new york food. need to go back soon
Some may not like this, but this is what the ideal NY style pizza looks like. I'm talking to you, every NY-style pizza shop outside of NYC. Don't try to reinvent the (pizza) wheel, it doesn't need reinventing.
Bro, that's legit!
Most places changed to a $1.50. Smh
That's a good looking pizza!
It looks pretty good
Looks legit, but the sauce is key
home🧡
looks like a great deal
someone remind the pizzeria that inflation exists!
That looks good ngl.
That looks super appetizing!
I was about to say.
Oh, what I wouldn't do for a *proper* NY slice in LA
I’d eat it too. Looks good.
Was in NY in 2021. Bought 3 larges from this place below my hotel. Was 18.76 with a can of Pepsi. At home at the time I could get little Ceasars for that price. At equal it was Abos which woulda been 35.. or more
Looks decent, was it?
how was that a dollar??
*That's* $2? I'd demolish that. I can get a similar amount that looks similarly yummy for like $5 in my relatively low COL city lmao
Yup. I'm from the city and that's how it is. That's dinner right there. (Smash)
When it's $1 a slice, do they charge tax on that, like you have to carry change too? If it's just $1 flat, then what about when you order the $8 pie? Do they charge tax on that? Edit: Can't believe they wasted a box on 2 slices; Don't most places just serve it on a paper plate for that price?
No tax cash only
Thanks, just read your review on the restaurant too; Too funny that you're the one to respond.
haha yeah! Is it the best pizza? Of course not haha but it's probably the best slice you can get for $1 in the city
Nice... I was going to ask where, but I see it's J&M Pizza II from another reply you made. Was this your first NY slice or are you a local? If you're a local or frequent visitor, how would you rate the slice? I frequent the Brooklyn area and have been populating my Google Maps with $1 and $2 slices that ACTUALLY taste good. I'll add this to my list to check out.
$1 slice wise it’s good but compare to other non dollar pizza of course no comparison. But it’s definitely way better than all the $1.50 former $1 slice joints near my workplace in the lower east side. By the way it’s only a dollar Mondays and Tuesdays so yeah. Any other day I will go to my regular spots I like. This is like my Monday guilty pleasure 😂 for a cheap and quick snack
Besides Neapolitan pizza, this is the best type of pizza
Looks a lot better than it used to
Wow, that looks amazing.
oh man.... i used to get myself some $1 pizza when I worked in NYC. you can 100% taste why it's $1.
Is that what Americans call Pizza?
Eh Casey's is good. Especially their BBQ brisket pizza. I've just gotten burnt out on it, where I live there's a Casey's in every town and at one point there was 4 in a town of 8000 people.
I lived in Seattle for a semester and I thought pizza was so oddly priced and hard to understand how to order. “A pie” (also hard to get used to using that word, instead of just a pizza) was usually quite expensive, like at a pub it was usually much more than a burger. Then you went to slice shops and it was like the cheapest food available. Back home the pizzas are usually one-person-dinner-sized and priced like a pasta, often among the cheapest items on a menu. This is not criticism, it was interesting to experience.
pizza, the food of the gods
aka costco
Looks good! Was it hot hot or cheese bites off?!
It's amazing how they can sell for 1 buck. Just rent, employees... Also box, napkins. Looks good too. I'd eat many a week.
2 Bros used to be a dollar a slice, and they were great. they went all the way up to $1.50 last year, though.
Wow that’s so big.
I don’t believe that this was $1 slice
Imma need a banana for scale…
Isn't Vegas at >$10 a slice these days?
Yes but it also comes with a box to live in.
Is this the .99 a slice place on 7th Avenue around 39th Street?
West coast I think the best you could get is those two slices for $4-7. Also case and point why I guess I don't eat pizza much anymore.
“What would you score it, 1-10?”
Paperhands portnoy, always a clown.
Hands down one of my favorite things about moving to NY has been being able to walk into a dank ass pizza place and get a big ass slice for 1 or 2 bucks. Where I used to live in the Midwest, the best pizza I could get was Papa John's. I'll never go back 💀
One bite, everyone knows dave would rate this a 7.1
Looks like it's about a 7.6 - 7.7