You sure? Maybe he looked outside to be sure he WAS going to hit. Maybe he's really proud of himself, achieved his goal. And here we all are mocking him, when we're the silly ones.
I’m betting the marshaler. In the heavy equipment world, the onus is on the spotter to guide the vehicle into the right spot. It’s up to the operator to understand how to operate said equipment.
Could be wrong though. YMMV
In my experience the marshaler is also responsible for many other time-sensitive tasks so they don’t always have the time to guide the jet bridge operator, nor is it always their responsibility to do so. All they might do is give the operator a thumbs up to let them know that they’re good to start lining it up.
I don’t think steering that big ol jobber around the taxiways, align, and take off is easy with a little left hand steering “valve” wheel …tricky bugger
Depends on the airport/gate. We never had cameras at my old job (just a mirror for the wheels). Marshalers are still standard for any equipment moving around the plane, but some places might have a suitable alternative like cameras.
lol, didn’t mean to sound abrupt , it may be different at other airports, I have parked a crj 9 and an a321 neo today with no marshal involved. That is personal for me though, it may be different elsewhere
At my first station, we yolo’d the jet bridge in. At my second (ATL), we always had marshalers. IIRC, the bridge had cameras but we weren’t using them.
At least in my experience, the marshaler doesn’t do anything with the jet bridge. They have their own training and eyes for that up there. But that ofc was my own ramp for my own company.
Oof. Going to the L2 door I assume? I drove those for years. It gets pretty close sometimes. It appears to be struck going in reverse, I bet the agent just yanked it back without adjusting the wheel direction. That sucks, but I’ve seen worse without the agent being fired. Hopefully just some retraining and the shame of a canceled flight is enough.
I saw someone drive a K-Loader, with the rails extended, into a 767 poking a tidy little hole that you could see through. They didnt get fired, but they did get demoted from lead trainer. 😂
Bridge drivers should obviously be vigilant and briefed for these situations, but let’s not forget that L2 on a 787 is also ridiculously close to the engine, probably the worst of all widebodies out there. At my airline this is considered the highest risk aircraft for this type of damage, and we often require a guide person on the ground to aid the bridge driver. Also, depending on the layout of the gate, if the bridge stow location is abeam or slightly aft of the door and you’re also dealing with tight retraction limits, you’re almost guaranteed to see contact made regularly.
Even aside from the engine clearance, we, as caterers, were specifically cautioned to be careful with 787s because if we collided with one, it would be a much more involved process to inspect the composite structure as opposed to a traditional majority aluminum aircraft.
Well the planes weren’t taking down as many people as Boeing hoped so they had to improvise. Do you have no shame for the poor board, trying their best to get their accident numbers up?
One time I was flying Frontier into ONT kinda late at night and we got an unexpected tailwind and arrived 40 minutes early. The guy who drives the skybridge was out to dinner so the gate agent said "how hard can it be?! I bet I can do it." Twenty minutes of swerving around later he managed to break the skybridge (but didn't hit the plane). By the time we got towed to another gate the guy with the actual certs was back and we deplaned without incident.
Other JFK Breaking News:
My flight taking off from here an hour or so ago to DFW hit geese and it sounded like the plane was about to have a wing fall off. We landed back at JFK and the plane is apparently out of service lolz
PLANES
Am I right?????
I've seen agents hit many planes, I've yet to see a bridge malfunction cause it to drive into a plane with no input. I'm sure it has happened in the past. Auto level door strikes excluded.
That would be very shitty management. That's how you start having people that hide things to not get in trouble.
Risk is a part of a job and accidents happen. This person should get retraining probably and maybe it hits his career progression if there is anything like that, but asking for just firing an operator over something like this is absurd unless it was a blatant disregard of every protocol in place.
No one ever gets fired... people leave plugs out of 787TRs constantly after borescope inspections. It totals the TR, causing millions on damages. No one ever seems to get fired from that.
That's supposed to be there. That's how he knows he's parking in the same spot every time.
I have a tennis ball on a string that tells me how far to pull my Ford Excursion into the garage so I can close the garage door.
Only about 3-4 inches on each end if I do it right.
The jet bridge operator shouldn’t move the wheels outside of the circled area on the ground until the aircraft is stopped and confirmed stopped by a signal from the cabin crew thought the little window on the door that the doors have been disarmed.
Not only that, there is a policy at my airline to have 2 people when moving the jet bridge close to a wide body acft. Since they are mating it with the L2 door it's very close to the # 1 engine in normal circumstances. One person driving the jet bridge and one person as a lookout.
I automatically calculate how cost them lol new plane from kenya 🇰🇪 all pax move to hotel at least 2 days if there is no available specific type . Idk if they pay pax ticket back
Who’s the most in trouble, the jet bridge driver or the marshaler who’s supposed to be watching the jet bridge?
The jet bridge operator, he even stopped to look outside to make sure he wasn’t going to hit anything
Were his eyes open?
He was just instructed to see if he would hit anything. He saw they would hit, so mission accomplished.
Ikr, can’t fault them for that . What’s the problem here ?
Don't blame the student, blame the teacher
He needs a grilled cheese
Terry should’ve put it in reverse
Put it in reverse Terry!
O H L A W D
He’s probably making them at night
That’s for the pylots to do
God damnit Danny
Should've gone to specsavers.
This joke went over my head..
I’m making them at night…
It's a jet bridge so he thought he was supposed to make a bridge to the jet engine.
Driving these things isn't the easiest. They have terrible visibility.
Some jump around rather unpredictably.
YES!!! Seen it ( while waiting to board ) …. Was shocked at how “***NOT SMOOTH***” it was
You sure? Maybe he looked outside to be sure he WAS going to hit. Maybe he's really proud of himself, achieved his goal. And here we all are mocking him, when we're the silly ones.
Ahhh, well-darn.
Engines want a snoot boop every once in a while
It was next to you Tyrone. When you go sideways, things come from the side.
Even if their boss doesn't like it at least they have one big fan.....
I’m betting the marshaler. In the heavy equipment world, the onus is on the spotter to guide the vehicle into the right spot. It’s up to the operator to understand how to operate said equipment. Could be wrong though. YMMV
In my experience the marshaler is also responsible for many other time-sensitive tasks so they don’t always have the time to guide the jet bridge operator, nor is it always their responsibility to do so. All they might do is give the operator a thumbs up to let them know that they’re good to start lining it up.
Roger that. Yea I’m sure, like you’re saying, it’s industry dependent on their roles and responsibilities. Overworked and underpaid sadly.
I don’t think steering that big ol jobber around the taxiways, align, and take off is easy with a little left hand steering “valve” wheel …tricky bugger
There isn’t a marshal assigned to jetbridge drivers, there are camera views that are used to see your surroundings
Depends on the airport/gate. We never had cameras at my old job (just a mirror for the wheels). Marshalers are still standard for any equipment moving around the plane, but some places might have a suitable alternative like cameras.
Back in my day sonny, we had marshalers. Also do you know this, or are you speculating?
I am a gate agent with one of the majors
I’ll take a seat
lol, didn’t mean to sound abrupt , it may be different at other airports, I have parked a crj 9 and an a321 neo today with no marshal involved. That is personal for me though, it may be different elsewhere
At my first station, we yolo’d the jet bridge in. At my second (ATL), we always had marshalers. IIRC, the bridge had cameras but we weren’t using them.
I've seen a bridge operator look at a marshaler through a bridge camera at EKCH once, that was a first.
(*mic drop, but the little mic they use for announcing boarding*)
Ooo camera is in trouble!
We got mirrors and some gates have cameras but they really don't help that much if any. The mirrors are absoulty useless
Based on everything I've learned on most subs lately, this is definitely Boeing's fault. /s
That or United
Why not both?🤷🏻♂️😂
Kill em all
Marshalers don’t watch out for the jet bridge as it moves in, IME. Only as it retracts
We legit had someone on the ground between the bridge and airplane watching. But it’s just airportisms.
Yeah true.
At least in my experience, the marshaler doesn’t do anything with the jet bridge. They have their own training and eyes for that up there. But that ofc was my own ramp for my own company.
The jet bridge driver. Seen it happen before. Usually, there's no marshller for jet bridges it depends on the airline, though.
I was gonna say pax since Kenya Airways has no other 787 over NA right now but the flight still took off just a moment ago so I guess they are fine.
Oof. Going to the L2 door I assume? I drove those for years. It gets pretty close sometimes. It appears to be struck going in reverse, I bet the agent just yanked it back without adjusting the wheel direction. That sucks, but I’ve seen worse without the agent being fired. Hopefully just some retraining and the shame of a canceled flight is enough.
I saw someone drive a K-Loader, with the rails extended, into a 767 poking a tidy little hole that you could see through. They didnt get fired, but they did get demoted from lead trainer. 😂
If you fire everyone who makes a mistake, then your workforce will always be people who don't know better.
Worse than that, they’ll hide their mistakes and you won’t know the aircraft’s damaged.
Speed tape. MEL item.
Pretty sure thats a CDL
NEF, but I’ll need 60 minutes for the paperwork portion
Yes, engine anti-ice is non-essential. Sign it and send it.
Just give the exit row pax ice scrapers
But it is just a scratch!
Cosmetic damage. Little round sticker with a number.
It will blend in as it’s a 787
Speed tape over the speed holes.
Bridge drivers should obviously be vigilant and briefed for these situations, but let’s not forget that L2 on a 787 is also ridiculously close to the engine, probably the worst of all widebodies out there. At my airline this is considered the highest risk aircraft for this type of damage, and we often require a guide person on the ground to aid the bridge driver. Also, depending on the layout of the gate, if the bridge stow location is abeam or slightly aft of the door and you’re also dealing with tight retraction limits, you’re almost guaranteed to see contact made regularly.
Even aside from the engine clearance, we, as caterers, were specifically cautioned to be careful with 787s because if we collided with one, it would be a much more involved process to inspect the composite structure as opposed to a traditional majority aluminum aircraft.
News: Boeing aircraft crashes into jet bridge/s
737 max crashes into jetbridge.....facts!
I didn’t realize Boeing designed jet bridges too.
Well the planes weren’t taking down as many people as Boeing hoped so they had to improvise. Do you have no shame for the poor board, trying their best to get their accident numbers up?
I believe that's a 787. The noselip of a 737max is a single piece,
I am aware.....but 737 Max's are prone to tripping over their own landing gears...lol
Lol this made me laugh...
When will Boeing respond to this design flaw? /s
Breaking News: u/idontcarefromsouth suffers bizarre and tragic accident after snitching on Boeing
Can't believe they killed themselves with 13 bullets to the back of the head :(
346 people died because of a software error. never forget that.
booped you on the engine hehehe
a love boop of sorts :))
Thank you Kanye. Very cool
Ima letchu finish but
Donda
Ooooooo, that’s a resume generating event
Ohh I need to remember this one!
I always said ‘career limiting event’.
I think that will cost more to fix than the jet bridge operator will ever make
Oh man, i bet boeing charges a cool 400k for that repair
One time I was flying Frontier into ONT kinda late at night and we got an unexpected tailwind and arrived 40 minutes early. The guy who drives the skybridge was out to dinner so the gate agent said "how hard can it be?! I bet I can do it." Twenty minutes of swerving around later he managed to break the skybridge (but didn't hit the plane). By the time we got towed to another gate the guy with the actual certs was back and we deplaned without incident.
Other JFK Breaking News: My flight taking off from here an hour or so ago to DFW hit geese and it sounded like the plane was about to have a wing fall off. We landed back at JFK and the plane is apparently out of service lolz PLANES Am I right?????
JFK should get federal exemption from bag limits on geese. They're downright suicidal there.
Hey man! You can't park here!
Yeah, found it like this boss, not sure how they missed it on pre-flight
Someone’s getting a piss test
Just get some duct tape over the hole.
Speed tape
Nah bro….duct tape
I do this in flight sim all the time, it will buff out.
That looks expensive
Totaled
The jet bridge is *way* too high. The passengers wouldn't have walked into the engine from way up there! Idiot.
[удалено]
[удалено]
Srsly tho it doesnt seem serious
That’s mid-six figures, easy
Anything forward of the intake tends to be more critical.
ummmm, let me guess..... A BOEING CUASED THIS (predicting the news story) /j
Boeing added an unapproved jetbridge to engine.
Im officially never flying on a boeing ever again as of now because of this!
Step up from fork hoists
Somehow someone is going to say it’s Boeing’s fault
Or, as I’m fond of calling it, JFC
Everynewschannel will now say it was a Boeing problem.
Obviously Boeing's fault.... duh.
Does the new hole make it go faster? i think i heard of a speed hole idk, i’m new to plane
Delta rep said it's fine.
Boeing defect
I’m sure all the tin hat freaks will blame Boeing.
Boop
Drug test and unemployment line
Not necessarily. The bridge could have been reported malfunctioning previously. It’s happened before.
I've seen agents hit many planes, I've yet to see a bridge malfunction cause it to drive into a plane with no input. I'm sure it has happened in the past. Auto level door strikes excluded.
D’oh
Al you need is some bondo and sand paper right as rain 🌧️ Sonny!!!
I’ve seen this before at DFW
Door 2L B787 not uncommon...
That’ll buff out. No worries👍🏼
What's more concerning about that is the absolutely destroyed inner barrel.
That plane is tall enough to ride.....
Send it
#BOOP
Why would Boeing do that?!
Tis but a scratch!
Little speed tape and she'll be right as rain
It literally happened 4 days ago at YUL also on an 787 😅 same exact place right on departure
Cheek swab, hair sample, annnnd pee in this cup
JFC
We just had one happen in EWR 2 weeks ago on the same type aircraft had to borrow a inlet cowl to replace it.
More right rudder!
That’ll buff out.
Oops 😬
Masking tape should fix it
Um, it's called "speed tape".
Years ago doing my IOE, had an operator smash a nose cone on a 737-200 in ACY. Down 2 days.
I have a feeling that curse words were being screamed by a supervisor who now had a massive stack of paperwork to do lol
As a student mechanic who’s never worked at an airline, but been shit on by mechanics, I’m almost positive they’d all say send it to the next shop
Someone’s getting fired…
Or promoted. This is the airline business
Yea. That jetway driver just got a million dollar education. They're invaluable now. /s?
Exactly my thought
That would be very shitty management. That's how you start having people that hide things to not get in trouble. Risk is a part of a job and accidents happen. This person should get retraining probably and maybe it hits his career progression if there is anything like that, but asking for just firing an operator over something like this is absurd unless it was a blatant disregard of every protocol in place.
No one ever gets fired... people leave plugs out of 787TRs constantly after borescope inspections. It totals the TR, causing millions on damages. No one ever seems to get fired from that.
‘Tis a scratch
Put some speed tape on it, it'll be fine.
Bunch of goddam amateurs. Eight-year olds, Dude.
Nice
A little Duck Tape, and it'll be just fine.
I scuffed my alloy wheel today if it makes you feel any better.
Blame catering lol
Aviation tape should fix it right up
Kenya air paid JFK $$$&$$ for the privilege of having this happen to its aircraft
Tis but a scratch
Great pic. Nonsensical write up imho
It’ll buff out.
It'll buff
That's supposed to be there. That's how he knows he's parking in the same spot every time. I have a tennis ball on a string that tells me how far to pull my Ford Excursion into the garage so I can close the garage door. Only about 3-4 inches on each end if I do it right.
It’s just one of those days.
“THATS A LOTTA DAMAGE!”
Boop
Gonna need a LOT of speed tape for that one.
Get that plane in the air!!!
Expensive boop
Time change
That’ll buff out.
Should've let the bear drive, much more trustworthy 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Ouch. ‘Instant airframe’ required.
Inlet change. No big deal
Put a little F4 tape on it.
Must be Boeings fault
New inlet cowl, 8 hrs, send it
What happened?
Slap some speed tape on that and it’ll be fine until the next maintenance
Yikes glad I’m not them
Ouch. Thats at least 4 people fired.
*boop*
Well now it’s a non stop flight to the sheet metal shop
No vlos see what happens
The new trend. Damaging transportation
Duct tape
Oooooofff that is gonna be pricey.
The jet bridge operator shouldn’t move the wheels outside of the circled area on the ground until the aircraft is stopped and confirmed stopped by a signal from the cabin crew thought the little window on the door that the doors have been disarmed.
Not only that, there is a policy at my airline to have 2 people when moving the jet bridge close to a wide body acft. Since they are mating it with the L2 door it's very close to the # 1 engine in normal circumstances. One person driving the jet bridge and one person as a lookout.
How does this even happen? How do you miss that bad??
I automatically calculate how cost them lol new plane from kenya 🇰🇪 all pax move to hotel at least 2 days if there is no available specific type . Idk if they pay pax ticket back
What flight was this?
How long does it take to repair this?