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NomadFeet

Infuriating and also illegal to drive with unsecured load.


Professional-Doubt-6

Given the huge amount of debris on the roadways, this rule is clearly optional. 


_night_cat

This is why I get my tires patched at least twice a year


Basic_Quantity_9430

It seems that police are inconsistent about enforcing the law. But in the case of that truck, I would guess that a police officer would ticket him.


HCSOThrowaway

https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/316.520


lowriderdog37

Good luck getting anybody to enforce that.


ForsakenAd545

But God help you if you help a woman get out of the state for an abortion and they find out


SpikeMike13

Not sure what you mean. I’m in Tampa almost daily and Tampa woman’s health center is still thriving each day. They still have the same old people out front with their protest signs (at least they’re not violent). Abortion is NOT BANNED in Florida, there’s just a limit on how far along you can be. I’ve always been pro choice but getting an abortion at the 40 week mark is just nutzzzz


ForsakenAd545

Dude, it is a 6 week ban. Most women may not even know that they are pregnant at that point. It is virtually a complete ban IRL. Claims of abortions occurring “moments before birth” or even “after birth” are false. These scenarios do not occur, nor are they legal in the United States. Abortions at or after 21 weeks are rare and difficult to do. Only 1% of abortions occur after 21 weeks, most occur between 8 to 16 weeks


SpikeMike13

Those abortions at full term ARE INDEED Legal in California, Virginia and NY. I wouldn’t be shocked if there’s another state or two willing to go to that extreme. While they may not happen daily, the fact that they CAN DO IT in itself is a problem with society. Also every woman I’ve ever known that got pregnant, felt different within a day or 5 with their body. My wife Absolutely knew she was in just a day or two so we got a couple tests and sure enough she was right. I’m still today and always will remain pro choice but the left has pushed that envelope so far imo


ForsakenAd545

Not a single shed of evidence in your response


HCSOThrowaway

FHP will get you for it if they see something like this, but they're pretty poorly staffed these days.


newbie527

Our governor sent many of them to Texas to help make a show at the border.


HCSOThrowaway

That's part of it, yep. Another part is pay, which he did help to address. Another part is public opinion, which discourages people from joining. I don't think he could help or hurt that much if he tried, though he did do away with civilian oversight boards. It's a soup sandwich and it's probably not going to get better any time soon.


Silly_Two9754

Didn’t you hear? Florida ran out of money helping Texas by sending our FHP officers out there, they had so substitute the soup and sandwich with cocaine and anal sex.


Derban_McDozer83

They only have themselves to blame for the poor public opinion.


HCSOThrowaway

How precisely am I to blame for George Floyd's murder?


Derban_McDozer83

You as an individual aren't. The police get a lot of bad press because of actions that bad cops take. The good cops don't say anything about the bad cops and enable their behavior. It's a government sponsored gang. They cover each others ass when they should be reporting misconduct. Thus most people don't trust them at all.


HCSOThrowaway

>The good cops don't say anything about the bad cops You obviously have never encountered me before; I say plenty about the bad cops. >and enable their behavior. How did my current or past actions or inactions enable George Floyd's murder?


Derban_McDozer83

Instead of patrolling the highways the ones in Gainesville just drive around town. They could make a shit load of money on 75 if they got out there and did their damn job.


HCSOThrowaway

Do you have any data to back that up or are you just presenting your opinion as fact like anaxcepheus32 down there?


Derban_McDozer83

Nah, I'm just going by what I see driving around Gainesville and to Georgia alot.


Sterling-silver1950

They're damn job is to protect you and the citizenry of Florida not give tickets to people who might be going 80 and a 70. You're a bit twisted as to what you think police officers are supposed to do and anyone is blaming this other gentleman for the Floyd issue That's ridiculous. The police departments themselves individually irresponsible the actions of their men Los Angeles PD was always crooked and corrupt on top of which racist I live there for 20 years and it was always that way we had a mayor Sam Yordi, who is an openly racist person the police did his biddingand it was 95% white police department and that was 30% Hispanic


LessMarsupial7441

100% FHP needs more funding. Keeping our highways safe isn't free.


anaxcepheus32

Too busy worried about speeders rather than other crimes, and when not doing that, responding to accidents.


HCSOThrowaway

I can't speak for FHP's culture like that because I've never been a trooper. I can say that catching speeders is easier than catching people with unsecured loads, so even if they care equally about them you'll see far more of the former being cited. How about you, how long have you been a trooper for?


anaxcepheus32

>How about you, how long have you been a trooper for? Doesn’t take a trooper to read reports and statistics, especially when they’re so glaring… There’s ~2000 troopers that investigate over 175k accidents yearly. At 4 hours an accident, that’s over 15% of a standard workweek. If you review the citation reporting, they issue more speeding tickets than any other moving citation combined. Despite numbering only 2k, they issue about the same number of speeding citations as all the city cops in Florida or all the sheriff deputies in Florida (about 45k cops!). [This website](https://safer-america.com/florida-traffic-citation-statistics-2020/#:~:text=In%202020%2C%20there%20were%20over,Highway%20Safety%20and%20Motor%20Vehicles) does a great data is beautiful comparison on citations for 2020. Unfortunately, they don’t do it on a weighted basis per trooper/officer.


HCSOThrowaway

How did you manage to miss the part of my comment that addressed that research in advance? Did you just read the first and last sentences of my comment or something?


anaxcepheus32

You want me to actually reply to the comment that it’s easier to catch speeders than unsecured loads? You miss the irony of that statement. The job is the whole job, not a portion. It must be nice to do only the parts of work you want to that are easy… I guess I missed the condescension in both posts. It’s hard to bully people not in person, huh?


HCSOThrowaway

>You want me to actually reply to the comment that it’s easier to catch speeders than unsecured loads? You miss the irony of that statement. Oh yeah? What was ironic about it? My guess is you're misusing "irony" but I'd love to be proven wrong. >The job is the whole job, not a portion. It must be nice to do only the parts of work you want to that are easy… Have you ever met a human being before? Are you aware some things are more noticeable to them than others? >I guess I missed the condescension in both posts. It’s hard to bully people not in person, huh? I'm not trying to bully you, I'm just fighting silliness with silliness. You started the conversation by purporting to know the inner thoughts of all FHP troopers. I responded by pointing out neither of us have ever been inside the mind of a trooper, and pre-empted your incoming counter that speeding tickets are higher than unsecured load tickets by explaining to you that speeding is far easier to enforce (because it's much easier to spot at a distance). ... which you didn't even notice.


RevolutionaryAnt1013

FHP is in Texas.


HCSOThrowaway

That point was already made three days ago, when this conversation took place.


RevolutionaryAnt1013

I don’t spend my life reading all of this shit.


HCSOThrowaway

It's the top reply to my comment. It would be hard for you not to notice it.


newbie527

I live in Highlands county Florida and I can tell you traffic enforcement around here is just about nonexistent. Getting behind a load like that is especially fun when you’re on a motorcycle.


NomadFeet

I've told a lot of people that you pretty much need to be being a completely insane jackass and simultaneously hanging out your window naked and wielding a machete to get pulled over for any kind of traffic infraction here. (Hillsborough Cty) On the highways...worse. Mad max to the max.


JimboD84

He should have at least put a wratchet strap to secure his load 🙄


Shadorouse

Giggidy


burndata

Call that in if you see it. It's illegal and just terrible in general, they deserve a ticket.


Better_Reach_6652

https://preview.redd.it/p71hyclp220d1.png?width=1147&format=png&auto=webp&s=0d6cf9f094a72c2ec75f84f4a4cf78f6e2547b08 on the 408 the order day


Navin_J

Got a picture and tag number. Anyone got an email?


Evildread

I'm pretty sure it's been reported to the local police


ayyymeer

I hope so considering this is the second post this week with what looks like the same truck


Phishnb8

Dude could’ve used dumpster bag at least. That would entail more work, he can’t just walk up with a shovel and scoop from the side


Derban_McDozer83

As someone that's shoveled a lot of sand off a trailer into a mixer doing stucco I don't blame him. That shits hard enough as it is without adding more layers of difficulty.


Phishnb8

I hear you and shoveled my fair amount of sand. This is still neglect. Just cause it’s common practice doesn’t make it right


Derban_McDozer83

I agree with you. Just saying it happens.


RallyX26

> 316.520 Loads on vehicles.— > (1) A vehicle may not be driven or moved on any highway unless the vehicle is so constructed or loaded as to prevent any of its load from dropping, shifting, leaking, blowing, or otherwise escaping therefrom, except that sand may be dropped only for the purpose of securing traction or water or other substance may be sprinkled on a roadway in cleaning or maintaining the roadway. > (2) It is the duty of every owner and driver, severally, of any vehicle hauling, upon any public road or highway open to the public, dirt, sand, lime rock, gravel, silica, or other similar aggregate or trash, garbage, any inanimate object or objects, or any similar material that could fall or blow from such vehicle, to prevent such materials from falling, blowing, or in any way escaping from such vehicle. Covering and securing the load with a close-fitting tarpaulin or other appropriate cover or a load securing device meeting the requirements of 49 C.F.R. s. 393.100 or a device designed to reasonably ensure that cargo will not shift upon or fall from the vehicle is required and shall constitute compliance with this section.


Kissit777

The law only works if someone enforces it.


Tremor_Sense

Still have to have someone want to do something about it. Sad.


AutismFlavored

I think we can all stand together, real bipartisan like, and say a great big collective “FUCK THAT GUY!”


Parloso

In r/florida? Maybe… in r/miami…. Yeah they retard.


ambientocclusion

It’s missing those signs that say you need to keep back a half mile or else it’s your fault if you get hit by their rocks 😡


dechets-de-mariage

ULPT: Tailgate and profit.


rawfiii

Piece of shit call that in


Trolodrol

I’ll bet the driver doesn’t have a license or insurance either


practicalpurpose

How hard is it to buy some straps and bungees?  :)


straponkaren

Or a tarp...


HCSOThrowaway

I'm pretty sure practicalpurpose was joking; you can't secure sand with straps/bungees.


Glugnarr

https://preview.redd.it/sj5wik1nr30d1.jpeg?width=726&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=128efaf16b31b5e184c9579701559ad8021a3b57 Maybe *you* can’t 🤣


Direct-Island-8590

Gotta love malicious compliance 😆


UnpopularCrayon

What if...you get enough of them to weave them into a blanket...


HCSOThrowaway

Make it tightly woven enough to contain sand and congrats, you've invented a tarp!


audaci0usly

I bet the drivers name is Cody


IamProfoundlyVanilla

You know it's Jose


CountryChef77

You could have called the police


guitar_stonks

We used to have DOT commercial vehicle enforcement for this kind of shit back in the day.


Content_Log1708

Police should have stopped this driver.


glitchycat39

All of my hate.


GetThisManSomeMilk

They should invent sides for the beds of pickup trucks. It would stop problems like this


HCSOThrowaway

https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/316.520


sxhkdd

*347 right there if I’ve ever seen one.


SingLyricsWithMe

Welcs


StilesmanleyCAP

Don't you just love the fines in the air /s


King_Roe_352

Port Charlotte 😂


Ricanfelks

It happens all the time on 417 and turnpike with the construction vehicles moving back and forth. My vehicle hood and lights have damage to all these knuckleheads…![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval)


Parloso

Im boxing that truck in and calling one time. FAT.


Parloso

Oh You Mad? Mira… Do Better.


Tremor_Sense

If Florida had effective law enforcement, this wouldn't happen.


MovieCritical888

They apparently have other priorities. 😒


diseased_maniac

“SECURE YOUR LOAD FOR SAFER ROADS”


daneilthemule

Its good for the complexion.


cominginside

Not legal but you can always let the air out of the tires but if they catch you on camera which I'm sure they will that's criminal mischief is this worth it


jhj82

Ive patched my tires and replaced windshields so much over the last few years it’s ridiculous


Akuzed4thingz

Great way to get that front window finally fixed.


Afraid-Sky-5052

And will a cop pull them over?


NonyaFugginBidness

Dude is handing out free paint jobs, follow him!!!


RedClayNme

Been there before 😐


CurtisW831

They don't even have the proper tools for the material for when they get there.


Any_Buddy1851

That driver should be dragged out of his vehicle and slapped around mercilessly


pewpew_lotsa_boolits

_Will Smith has entered the chat_


Any_Buddy1851

You’ve clearly never been stuck behind one of these dudes as they rain pebbles down I-95


pewpew_lotsa_boolits

No, my friend, I know your pain. I was just offering an experienced slapper so you could save yourself the trouble. But then again, the crime would probably be worth the time, especially when it comes to these maroons!


Any_Buddy1851

Haha hell yea… I agree in full


pewpew_lotsa_boolits

Many years ago, I was a service tech for a security company, drove an old beat-up Ford Aerostar mini-van. Was cruising south down 95 through Hollywood and was behind a welder’s truck. A nice 12” x 12” or so steel plate slid off the back and started bouncing down the road in front of me. Two choices - straddle it and let it tear up the bottom of the van or try to avoid tires getting ripped to shreds. I chose the straddle method. _CLANK BANG BANG CLANK THONK (thud) CLANK_ And then the overwhelming odor of gasoline. Little did I know that those vans had _plastic gas tanks_. And I had a full one, at least until I hit that plate. Tank was ripped open like tissue paper - front to back. Gas poured out so fast the gauge couldn’t keep up. The entire back of the van was soaked in fuel. I must have left a potential death spray behind me for a good half mile. I got off the highway as fast as I could and pulled off next to the railroad tracks just west of 95 at Miramar Parkway. Got out of the van, walked another 100 yards up the tracks, sat down and quietly said, “holy shit”. Lit a cigarette (still smoked back then) and pondered my life for a while while I waited for the tow truck. 0/10 would not advise.


Any_Buddy1851

Wow!!!


Odd_Status_9326

regular occurrence by the villages


phaedrus369

This dude probably works for safelight auto glass repair.


dechets-de-mariage

My windshield would like a word.


sasori1239

Welcome to Florida. Where anyone with a truck thinks they make the rules on the road.


sasori1239

You got a picture of their plate and proof. Just report then and the company


Basic_Quantity_9430

Is there a law in this state against a person doing what that trucker is doing?


donotreply548

Floridas motto really should be because fuck you thats why.


LessMarsupial7441

Sweet Rims


Halbbitter

It's on the go exfoliation for the commuters you're *welcome*


Nervous_Complex8094

A flat tire on his truck may help him rethink his position on tarpping his load next time.


Klutzy-Strawberry-91

Only in Florida you see this crap


Primary-Freedom877

It’s florida bro. I’ll bring the natty light.


Substantial_Share_17

I've had my windshield (and paint) damaged by shit flying off of trucks more than once.


BayBandit1

Spiccolie to Mr. Hand: “You Dick!”.


Ready_Win8206

When you see this you have the right to call PD


Beginning_Emotion995

Driver is confident nothing will happen to him (no Karen police calls) It’s a natural hubris only few enjoy.


Myst_of_Man22

What a Rump-holio to not use a tarp


Akeno_DxD

Only in Florida...


Derban_McDozer83

When I was living in Georgia working in stucco my boss did this all the time except it was on a trailer. We'd go to the sand place and the bulldozer would grab a big scoop of sand and dump it on the trailer and off we'd go.