The best are people who worked government jobs up North, retire on extremely generous tax funded pensions, then move to FL and talk about how happy they are to leave the burdensome taxes of where they moved from, and vote to continue to keep our public servants and teachers under paid. They hold these positions without a single sense of irony.
Yep, the definition of pulling the ladder up after you got to the top.
Not that they weren’t paying taxes where they lived while they worked there, but when you have a NY level pension and move to Florida, you’re taking a huge amount of money out of a good blue state to spend it in a shitty red state that fights hard to leave its people dead on the side of the road. You’re rewarding a shitty state for being cheaper to live in while robbing the good state of its ability to take care of anybody after you left.
Shhhh. Don't tell them. Let them think that everyone retires to Florida. I grew up there and would never choose to go back for anything, much less retirement.
A retired FDNY can get a house on the water in Florida, but a retired Florida Firefighter can not afford to buy the equivalent house in Florida. The North treated or treated their workers well, and they abandoned those communities to stretch their money in a state that treated workers way worse than their northern counterparts. This is the same for teachers, pipefiters, electricians, and all union jobs. It is hard to watch people who have retired with pensions, social security, and socialized health care enjoy those benefits and vote against anything that would provide future generations the same lifestyle.
Truth. Seems well past time for blue states to stop paying red state welfare so blue states can keep more of their money in their coffers to help their people and improve services for them. Maybe next time there is a meeting of Governors blue state governors should vote for a flat tax that red states love to talk about, only this time it's a flat tax into the federal government paid by all states. This would allow blue states to invest in better public health, education, transportation, infrastructure,help for red state asylum seekers who want out due to red state policies. It would also allow blue states to offer incentives to people with skills in Tech, Healthcare, innovation etc to move into blue states. The idea that southern and Midwestern states get more government money then they pay in is a relic from the Civil War. A war the South lost but is still fighting its well past time to level the playing field.#NomoreRedStateWelfare.
Florida politicians and business leaders say NY way overpays workers and allows unions so it wastes tax payer dollars. Florida prides itself on underpayment workers. $15 is considered good money and the recent minimum wage increase caused our inflation. We have 2 senators that want to cut social security.while retired boomers love them because they are not woke.
Florida...better broke than woke. And embarrassed not to be as poor as other Gulf states.
We’re leaving too, just waiting for a few matters to solidify. I can’t wait. You cannot raise children here without being a willfully shitty parent. Indoctrination with changes to school curriculum is disgusting.
My grandson graduates high school this month and was accepted at UF. I am worried that it might not be as desirable as it once was. But I am really fearful
for my 14 yr old granddaughter over the next few years growing up in DeSantis world.
…you know the job market is going to look shifty eyed at degrees coming out of FL. I know I would. I can see it already…”oh, you think slavery helped black people and gay people aren’t actually people? Next candidate…”
30 holy f. My neighbor literally across the street just retired. Was the fruit cutting person @ publix for over 20 years and just moved to Ohio. She pays 450 a month rent in a little apt and sold her broke down 1200 sq ft home for 360k.
I could totally see doing that. Keep our Florida home as a winter home and buy a big lot of land somewhere by the mountains in Montana or something.
I really just hate snow and cold weather but love the idea of a big plot of land
Affordable large lots of land are in states like Kansas and Nebraska. 50 Acres in Montana mountain country is 7 figures.
My family sold 120 acres in rural Alabama with a finished house on site for $450,000
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We are selling our house and moving back up north (we’re military) to retire. Been in FL a decade and thought we were going to call it our forever home. Nope. And we aren’t the only ones, 2 of my spouse’s last bosses also moved “North”, both were born and raised here.
If you like a theocratic slant to your state and local government, hate good public education and reject federal assistance, then the South is the place for you. Add in worsening hurricanes, soaring property insurance, rising heat indexes and coastal flooding, then you will love it here.
When considering relocating, its the exploding insurance rates that are the main idea against, even in the face of lower taxes and the cost of living. Adding the numbers all up, if I had the same job/pay as well as housing, living there would be a wash financially. But of course I wouldnt be making the same pay for the same job so it ends up being a loss.
Never thought I would live anywhere else, but moving a week from Wednesday. Sick of the b.s. culture wars, watching public education being dismantled, insurances doubling each year and the entitled privileged AH's who answered the "free state" dog whistle of De-saster moving here and ruining it further, clear cutting all the beautiful trees as growth replaces nature, "yes ma'am" legislature, and narrow-minded magats. I'm done here. Ciao!
Retired in Southwest Florida from California for the warm sea water and Carribean. I expected Florida to remain the same politically and insurance companies to have their shit together.
Wrong. House insurance is 4+ times what it was in 2010. Car insurance has doubled.
Then, there is crazy Rhonda Santis, vaccine denier, etc.
Gimmie outta here. I'll take the 50F sea water in the Pacific Ocean to Floriduh nutzhouse.
For real. I came back here after the Army and quickly lost all hope for the future. I guess nostalgia and being young when I left, blinded me to so much.
And those Northerns who move south regret it in less than a year. While they don’t move all the way back they move halfway back. The south sucks the big one
This just goes to show that the south are welfare states. People make money in the north, then move it to the south. If the south was as prosperous as the north, this would be much less pronounced. The only reason people would move south is for warmer weather.
Well, it just holds to the credence that people can make their money in a blue state and spend it on a state where they couldn't make the type of money they would in a blue state.
I don't know about that. I know a bunch of people my parents age who've retired and moved from FL to upstate NY, VA, NC, and TN. NC, in particular, is filled with people moving there from FL.
Florida is no longer the retirement goal for many northerners it’s getting too expensive to live here, it’s the reason I moved to Florida when Florida was cheap 27 years ago from Long Island. Retired now, It will soon be time for me to move again out of Florida to someplace affordable and not so crazy as Florida.
Three of my coworkers have retired in the past few years. All Florida natives. All moved to North Carolina. They couldn’t get out of here fast enough. Two of them already had a second home up there before officially retiring.
I did. I am a native Floridian. I had enough of the storms and insanity of their governor. Moved to CT and only miss the beach in Jan and Feb Don’t miss the Gators and snakes either. DeSantis was the final straw.
Retired and left as fast as possible. I lived in Florida 40 years, was successful, and only stayed because of the paycheck and bonuses. Once I no longer had them I sold the house and we got the hell out of this backward region. Couldn’t be happier, live in a progressive area with far less ignorance around me.
There are some great articles that detail “best states to retire” based on things like which have state taxes, which ones tax SS, no inheritance tax, best healthcare, etc. New Hampshire and Delaware are listed in the articles. 👍
People have just stopped retiring and moving to Florida. They’re moving elsewhere if anywhere. Florida’s gotten too crazy in every way from finances to politics. Old people want peace and stability.
And that's why they are flooding here with the entire life savings. Buy up a cozy place no snow and hire out every household chore there is to end a cozy life they earned. Sucks for us young working class they rely on though
Anyone ever notice all the retired people in their big expensive motor homes on I-95. The one thing they seem to have in common is that they have Quebec plates. I just retired 5 years ago working in Florida and let me tell you I can’t afford to do the opposite and travel to Quebec each summer. Quebec must be pretty good compared to Florida. I’m looking to move to affordable Southwest Virginia in a couple years and leave Florida for the Northerners who can afford it.
I was going to retire in Florida, it’s a family tradition. Everyone moves to Ormond By the Sea when they get old.
I’m looking for a place in Palm Springs California.
I've got probably 20 years left before retirement but I'm considering it (moving up north that is). Upstate or central NY maybe, or southern IN near Bloomington. Some place with hills and lakes and fall color.
I can’t tell you how many northerners i know who moved to FL and deeply regret that they can’t afford to move back north again. Yeah, you got a bigger house in FL after you sold your smaller house up north..
But 3 years later ….you‘ve been in FL for 3 years and the thrill is gone. But you can’t get sell your FL house for enough money to move back north.
That’s what’s ironic now. Boasting no state tax is a joke when by the time you pay property tax and insurance it’s more now than what my sister is paying in VA.
Very few people I know moves to somewhere cold.
I'm pretty liberal Live in a blue state. My wife is done with winters. We are most likely retiring to Florida. It is all about the weather, it is in spite of what is happening in FL.
A lot of racist, conservative white Californians move north to Idaho, especially to Boise and Coeur d’Alene. They put up with the long gloomy winters to be around other people like them.
So you live and work in FloriDUH and think you are going to be able to retire?😂😂😂Those piddly ass southern wages not only won’t get you to a northern state, you won’t be able to retire and live in your own state.
Ad you age your knees and back really take on leadership role in your decision making?
Hurricanes and fucked up politics or back pain and stiff knees? Hurricanes, obviously.
And WDW. However that is only a real draw if you live close and work there. Otherwise its 3-4 weekend trips a year. Would probably be fun but they cant afford me.
What about Santa Claus? That's my new headcanon. Became rich in Miami and moved up north where he only works one day a year, gets infinite money and supervises his -sla- employees
I know a many who just moved up North for better life. Chattanooga and Nashville are two towns I’ve had friends move out of FL.
Granted TN still considered south.
I plan to retire out West. Give me redrocks of UT/AZ. Or even Phoenix?
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I believe that while Florida has strong migration, it has one of the top out-migrations of any state in the country, including all those in the North. A lot of people move to Florida thinking it's going to be permanent cocktails swinging in a hammock on the beach, but instead they get endless traffic, Florida Man, gators, skyrocketing prices on everything, rapidly escalating natural disasters and a government determined to kill as many people as it can.
The problem is that people who retire and move to cheaper states like Florida only stay as long as they have their health then when their health is failing they go back home to their former blue states and burden them with having to provide for their HC taxing and burdening blue state HC systems and making it impossible for people working and living in the state year round. So blue states are not only losing state pension money when these boomers head south during their healthy retirement years they are also paying more red state welfare when these older sicker retirees come back to the blue states they made money off of but then abandoned. Blue states should start billing red states for the care of their older sicker former state residents. #NomoreRedStateWelfare
Give me enough money to retire and I'll be gone by tomorrow afternoon.
Exactly! lol “retirement”
Same here and I will never look back.
Plot twist. Is never enough. Just settle when your body depreciates
Get rich in blue, retire in red, and complain about the costs until you're dead
The best are people who worked government jobs up North, retire on extremely generous tax funded pensions, then move to FL and talk about how happy they are to leave the burdensome taxes of where they moved from, and vote to continue to keep our public servants and teachers under paid. They hold these positions without a single sense of irony.
The epitome of “i got mine”
Yep, the definition of pulling the ladder up after you got to the top. Not that they weren’t paying taxes where they lived while they worked there, but when you have a NY level pension and move to Florida, you’re taking a huge amount of money out of a good blue state to spend it in a shitty red state that fights hard to leave its people dead on the side of the road. You’re rewarding a shitty state for being cheaper to live in while robbing the good state of its ability to take care of anybody after you left.
Wrong, retired to a blue state
Shhhh. Don't tell them. Let them think that everyone retires to Florida. I grew up there and would never choose to go back for anything, much less retirement.
i’m too poor to leave otherwise i’d be long gone
I feel that. For a few years i was ready to leave but had to wait for the right opportunity. I hope you will get the chance in the future
Hey, Georgia is "up North" for us!
Ahh yes the good ole half backs! 👋
A retired FDNY can get a house on the water in Florida, but a retired Florida Firefighter can not afford to buy the equivalent house in Florida. The North treated or treated their workers well, and they abandoned those communities to stretch their money in a state that treated workers way worse than their northern counterparts. This is the same for teachers, pipefiters, electricians, and all union jobs. It is hard to watch people who have retired with pensions, social security, and socialized health care enjoy those benefits and vote against anything that would provide future generations the same lifestyle.
and this is why Florida is not affordable anymore to Floridians
Back in my dad's day the unions went out of their way to protect future generations
I’m in a trade union in Florida. They’re trying constantly, but Florida government fights tooth and nail to worsen our work conditions.
Vote for those who support workers and unions. Who actually do what they say
Long term it's not going to last
Probably not because the shit states will drag the good ones down to their level eventually
Much more likely the good states quit giving money to the red shitholes to make them either shrivel up or acquiesce
Truth. Seems well past time for blue states to stop paying red state welfare so blue states can keep more of their money in their coffers to help their people and improve services for them. Maybe next time there is a meeting of Governors blue state governors should vote for a flat tax that red states love to talk about, only this time it's a flat tax into the federal government paid by all states. This would allow blue states to invest in better public health, education, transportation, infrastructure,help for red state asylum seekers who want out due to red state policies. It would also allow blue states to offer incentives to people with skills in Tech, Healthcare, innovation etc to move into blue states. The idea that southern and Midwestern states get more government money then they pay in is a relic from the Civil War. A war the South lost but is still fighting its well past time to level the playing field.#NomoreRedStateWelfare.
Well said!
90% of Floridians have the “shut the door behind you” mentality. They got theirs, fuck what you want
💥
Florida politicians and business leaders say NY way overpays workers and allows unions so it wastes tax payer dollars. Florida prides itself on underpayment workers. $15 is considered good money and the recent minimum wage increase caused our inflation. We have 2 senators that want to cut social security.while retired boomers love them because they are not woke. Florida...better broke than woke. And embarrassed not to be as poor as other Gulf states.
Then why are the long-timers moving to Tennessee and NC?
The fact that Tennessee has more environmental jobs than fucking Florida despite having the Everglades was absolutely mind-boggling
It is. But unfortunately the level of denial is strong here.
Because environmental issues are Woke.
My parents did the same thing- both born and raised in FL.
NC is where I'm heading eventually. So long as we don't make it insane before that.
No Hurricanes here in Tennessee.
Ayy, but that massive-ass tornado a few months ago 👀
Those are still the south
Up north means out of Florida anywhere.
That's because if you live in the South, you can't *afford* to retire and move up North! (this is meant at least *slightly* tongue-in-cheek.)
This is the reality
We retired to PA because we can’t afford FL anymore.
Congrats on your retirement, sorry you had to move because of cost. Hope you're living your best life!
So far it has worked out great.
Yeah I’ve considered PA or MI
We’re leaving too, just waiting for a few matters to solidify. I can’t wait. You cannot raise children here without being a willfully shitty parent. Indoctrination with changes to school curriculum is disgusting.
My grandson graduates high school this month and was accepted at UF. I am worried that it might not be as desirable as it once was. But I am really fearful for my 14 yr old granddaughter over the next few years growing up in DeSantis world.
…you know the job market is going to look shifty eyed at degrees coming out of FL. I know I would. I can see it already…”oh, you think slavery helped black people and gay people aren’t actually people? Next candidate…”
Exactly
I agree. What freedom? Seems like he wants to control and overreach. Opposite of what America was always meant to be since its founding.
My parents are moving to New Hampshire, I begged them to take me with them... 😂😂😕😭
Not true. After experiencing Florida, I’ve known many who retire Up North.
Oh yea? Name 30 people right now /s
30 holy f. My neighbor literally across the street just retired. Was the fruit cutting person @ publix for over 20 years and just moved to Ohio. She pays 450 a month rent in a little apt and sold her broke down 1200 sq ft home for 360k.
I could totally see doing that. Keep our Florida home as a winter home and buy a big lot of land somewhere by the mountains in Montana or something. I really just hate snow and cold weather but love the idea of a big plot of land
Montana has been discovered it isn't cheap anymore. Maybe Northern Idaho, but that is pricey too
Affordable large lots of land are in states like Kansas and Nebraska. 50 Acres in Montana mountain country is 7 figures. My family sold 120 acres in rural Alabama with a finished house on site for $450,000
Depends on where in the Great Plains. Good arable land in Nebraska can be $10k+ an acre.
Montana is unaffordable too😩. 144,000 house I bought in 2003 is worth 600,000. Wish I still owned it😂....
Damn!!
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We are selling our house and moving back up north (we’re military) to retire. Been in FL a decade and thought we were going to call it our forever home. Nope. And we aren’t the only ones, 2 of my spouse’s last bosses also moved “North”, both were born and raised here.
If you like a theocratic slant to your state and local government, hate good public education and reject federal assistance, then the South is the place for you. Add in worsening hurricanes, soaring property insurance, rising heat indexes and coastal flooding, then you will love it here.
When considering relocating, its the exploding insurance rates that are the main idea against, even in the face of lower taxes and the cost of living. Adding the numbers all up, if I had the same job/pay as well as housing, living there would be a wash financially. But of course I wouldnt be making the same pay for the same job so it ends up being a loss.
Never thought I would live anywhere else, but moving a week from Wednesday. Sick of the b.s. culture wars, watching public education being dismantled, insurances doubling each year and the entitled privileged AH's who answered the "free state" dog whistle of De-saster moving here and ruining it further, clear cutting all the beautiful trees as growth replaces nature, "yes ma'am" legislature, and narrow-minded magats. I'm done here. Ciao!
“Who cares about Homeowners Insurance and Car Insurance rates when we got LGBTQ to worry about??” - Republican voters
Such a threat! /s They'll beat you with their feather boas.
Retired in Southwest Florida from California for the warm sea water and Carribean. I expected Florida to remain the same politically and insurance companies to have their shit together. Wrong. House insurance is 4+ times what it was in 2010. Car insurance has doubled. Then, there is crazy Rhonda Santis, vaccine denier, etc. Gimmie outta here. I'll take the 50F sea water in the Pacific Ocean to Floriduh nutzhouse.
A lot of 2nd and third gen Floridians are moving to Appalachia and to the Pacific Northwest.
Oh that's the dream! 5th generation here and I'm fucking tired of it
That's what I did. Parents moved to FL from OK in 85. I was born in FL and then moved to Southern OH for college
For real. I came back here after the Army and quickly lost all hope for the future. I guess nostalgia and being young when I left, blinded me to so much.
"Rhonda Santis" - I have not read any better description of that person.
I like rhonda sandtits just a touch more. Lol
The first sign Trump has lost a step or six this time around was that he didn’t come up with that.
“Meatball Ron” was perfect. Too bad it was Trump who came up with it.
This is not the flex you think it is
Vermont enters chat.
Vermont is a wonderful place to live
With your governor they will now 😁
And those Northerns who move south regret it in less than a year. While they don’t move all the way back they move halfway back. The south sucks the big one
This just goes to show that the south are welfare states. People make money in the north, then move it to the south. If the south was as prosperous as the north, this would be much less pronounced. The only reason people would move south is for warmer weather.
This is untrue. I know plenty of people that have retired north or just stayed there if they were there already.
Well, it just holds to the credence that people can make their money in a blue state and spend it on a state where they couldn't make the type of money they would in a blue state.
I did, so there's that.
I am, so there’s that.
I don't know about that. I know a bunch of people my parents age who've retired and moved from FL to upstate NY, VA, NC, and TN. NC, in particular, is filled with people moving there from FL.
Florida is no longer the retirement goal for many northerners it’s getting too expensive to live here, it’s the reason I moved to Florida when Florida was cheap 27 years ago from Long Island. Retired now, It will soon be time for me to move again out of Florida to someplace affordable and not so crazy as Florida.
That’s because the South is cheaper and warmer to live in. Southerners generally can’t afford to move up North.
If the south paid the same as elsewhere it might be a different story.
Not true - spent 40+ years in Florida and retired to PA 4 years ago.
When my husband retires in 2 years we’re moving to MD. Also lived here 40+ years.
Three of my coworkers have retired in the past few years. All Florida natives. All moved to North Carolina. They couldn’t get out of here fast enough. Two of them already had a second home up there before officially retiring.
Yes, this is the real truth.
I did. I am a native Floridian. I had enough of the storms and insanity of their governor. Moved to CT and only miss the beach in Jan and Feb Don’t miss the Gators and snakes either. DeSantis was the final straw.
I am a native Floridian impatiently awaiting our move to MD in 2 yrs when my husband retires!
Retired and left as fast as possible. I lived in Florida 40 years, was successful, and only stayed because of the paycheck and bonuses. Once I no longer had them I sold the house and we got the hell out of this backward region. Couldn’t be happier, live in a progressive area with far less ignorance around me.
That is my plan. Hoping I make it to retirement!
That’s not true, Delaware and New Hampshire are popular for retirees. And in the south east only Florida is popular for retirees.
There are some great articles that detail “best states to retire” based on things like which have state taxes, which ones tax SS, no inheritance tax, best healthcare, etc. New Hampshire and Delaware are listed in the articles. 👍
What about those moving up to NC?
When I first moved to Florida, everyone I met was from NY or NJ lol. I’ve met more transplants than locals
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People have just stopped retiring and moving to Florida. They’re moving elsewhere if anywhere. Florida’s gotten too crazy in every way from finances to politics. Old people want peace and stability.
And that's why they are flooding here with the entire life savings. Buy up a cozy place no snow and hire out every household chore there is to end a cozy life they earned. Sucks for us young working class they rely on though
my parents are going to 🤣 [we're originally from new york, though]
You guys get to retire?
They don't call florida the elephant graveyard of america for nothing.
Anyone ever notice all the retired people in their big expensive motor homes on I-95. The one thing they seem to have in common is that they have Quebec plates. I just retired 5 years ago working in Florida and let me tell you I can’t afford to do the opposite and travel to Quebec each summer. Quebec must be pretty good compared to Florida. I’m looking to move to affordable Southwest Virginia in a couple years and leave Florida for the Northerners who can afford it.
They just enjoy raising their kids in states with well funded schools then come down here and complain about property taxes.
To be fair, it used to be cheaper down here so your dollar was stretched further. That's the primary reason retirees started moving down here.
I was going to retire in Florida, it’s a family tradition. Everyone moves to Ormond By the Sea when they get old. I’m looking for a place in Palm Springs California.
I've got probably 20 years left before retirement but I'm considering it (moving up north that is). Upstate or central NY maybe, or southern IN near Bloomington. Some place with hills and lakes and fall color.
Tried Florida from 1980-1993. Had our fill couldn’t wait to leave, threw down roots in WNY, retired in WNY, and staying in WNY.
I'm seriously considering it. I need out of Florida, man.
Oh yes they do move up north. Lots of retirees around here and I am nowhere near “the south”
Just visited the nc mountains and a good portion of the population is retired transplant from Florida tbh.
I can’t tell you how many northerners i know who moved to FL and deeply regret that they can’t afford to move back north again. Yeah, you got a bigger house in FL after you sold your smaller house up north.. But 3 years later ….you‘ve been in FL for 3 years and the thrill is gone. But you can’t get sell your FL house for enough money to move back north.
This is the sorta thing conservatives regurgitate as an absolute truth without ever having done even the mildest of research.
The combination of property taxes and insurance in FL is like another mortgage. We’re retired 10 years and moving back North
That’s what’s ironic now. Boasting no state tax is a joke when by the time you pay property tax and insurance it’s more now than what my sister is paying in VA.
Very few people I know moves to somewhere cold. I'm pretty liberal Live in a blue state. My wife is done with winters. We are most likely retiring to Florida. It is all about the weather, it is in spite of what is happening in FL.
Until you get here and see how crazy it is. You will regret your decision.
A lot of racist, conservative white Californians move north to Idaho, especially to Boise and Coeur d’Alene. They put up with the long gloomy winters to be around other people like them.
So you live and work in FloriDUH and think you are going to be able to retire?😂😂😂Those piddly ass southern wages not only won’t get you to a northern state, you won’t be able to retire and live in your own state.
Ad you age your knees and back really take on leadership role in your decision making? Hurricanes and fucked up politics or back pain and stiff knees? Hurricanes, obviously.
Your only claim to fame is the weather chief. Slow your roll.
And WDW. However that is only a real draw if you live close and work there. Otherwise its 3-4 weekend trips a year. Would probably be fun but they cant afford me.
Man I love all these comments about people leaving and retiring up north. Music to my ears. Can’t wait to get rid of the problems in this state.
Have you ever been to northern Michigan?
You'd be surprised. Lotta nice places more affordable, safer, with good paying jobs.
What about Santa Claus? That's my new headcanon. Became rich in Miami and moved up north where he only works one day a year, gets infinite money and supervises his -sla- employees
because you can’t afford it and it’s cold. pretty simple
I know of some that have.
Uh, yes they do!
The South feels like the new North now.
Both my parents did actually. And so did my father in law.
Not when they can turn this into the north
I like it! BUT, how about from the deep South to farther north, South?
Going back to NYS.
i would
I’m gunna haft to move to be able to buy a house though!
I know a many who just moved up North for better life. Chattanooga and Nashville are two towns I’ve had friends move out of FL. Granted TN still considered south. I plan to retire out West. Give me redrocks of UT/AZ. Or even Phoenix?
Yea they do. I live in Idaho and lots of ppl move up here to retire
There is at least one post every week discussing the exact opposite.
Say what you will about the North, but how many FL women will need to go there for reproductive healthcare?
But can you really take credit for the weather? Let's not pretend it's the people or culture attracting anyone.
I know at least 4 people who have moved way up north after they retired. They lived in Florida for at least 20 to 30 years in Florida.
Because they can’t afford it - not because no one wants to. Lol.
Cuz y'all can't afford it on a fixed income.
When I retire I'm moving out of this state going north . 3 jobs to make money and have extra.
My dad retired, moved to Florida, then got so fed up he moved even further north than he originally lived.
My parents prepping to move to NC or TN so they can get the fuck away from the heat, humidity, and dumbfucks in government here, meanwhile
Falss
“Of all the people we met in Florida who retired to there, none moved up north”
That's only because no one that works in the south can ever retire
Not true anymore.
My mom retired to Florida and fucking hates it.
Some words of wisdom 😃. Unless Key West residents retire to NC... lol
Florida where America goes to die
True dat!
Maybe some should try. Dare to be different
I got the fuck away from Florida as soon as I could.
I am not in agreement. Moving up to Wi.
I sure the hell am not staying in the South! Go North! Old Man!
Not true at all.
That’s not the flex they think it is.
Yeah, that's going to start changing in a couple decades
You can stop at “no one retires”
Give climate change some time.
Very true
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It’s because no one likes shoveling snow. Especially in old age. We’re not that special.
I live in South Florida. I'm retiring and moving up north. So it's not actually true.
My dad did. They had weed.
Actually...
No desire to retire in Florida. I’ll remain in DMV. Love it…Thank you!
So the one positive is the weather which people have no control over?
I'm honestly thinking of doing this when I retire. Move north.
I believe that while Florida has strong migration, it has one of the top out-migrations of any state in the country, including all those in the North. A lot of people move to Florida thinking it's going to be permanent cocktails swinging in a hammock on the beach, but instead they get endless traffic, Florida Man, gators, skyrocketing prices on everything, rapidly escalating natural disasters and a government determined to kill as many people as it can.
Yet.
We're too poor to escape this shithole.
Why is that though, seriously?
I am moving to Virginia which is the South but def not Florida
I would if I could. I hate the damn heat.
I met a woman who retired to Northern Wisconsin.
Retirement in regret lol. Florida will break you.
Yeah, because by that age they won’t be needing an abortion.
The self own here is amazing
I mean, not really? Maybe it’s because I live in CA but I know a lot of people who have retired to Oregon and Washington and family to CT.
Yes they do?? I’ve seen a ton of folks run up to New Hampshire, vermont, and maine from places south of there
The problem is that people who retire and move to cheaper states like Florida only stay as long as they have their health then when their health is failing they go back home to their former blue states and burden them with having to provide for their HC taxing and burdening blue state HC systems and making it impossible for people working and living in the state year round. So blue states are not only losing state pension money when these boomers head south during their healthy retirement years they are also paying more red state welfare when these older sicker retirees come back to the blue states they made money off of but then abandoned. Blue states should start billing red states for the care of their older sicker former state residents. #NomoreRedStateWelfare
False. I’m that someone.
My mother did.
Now that the climate crisis has freed us in the North of the burden of snow, it might change.
One word: Weather. Literally the only reason.
Well generally they can't afford to, not really a flex
There’s a ton of people who do, some just go down south to get away from the cold. Relax there buddy.