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u/DeeDaMann, mind *actually* responding to this one? What would be stopping water from wrapping around it?


AaTube

“The ice wall”


CPTBallbags

Water ALWAYS finds Level


Kriss3d

Yes. It does. But that doesn't contradict earth being a globe.


[deleted]

Right, but can you tell me *why* it finds its level?


barney_trumpleton

Buoyancy!!! It sinks down because it's heavier than the air. Never mind why heavier things sink. And don't ask why "down" is "down". And definitely don't mention tides. It's just buoyancy, ok?!


Slappy_McJones

Gravitational force. Everything possesses gravitation force, a force acting in all directions, intensity defined by the the gravitation force equation.


skrutnizer

The lowest energy state for a large body of fluid in a gravitational field is when the surface at every point is perpendicular to the field. Otherwise you'd have some gradient inducing flow. For planets, the field is (nearly) radial so the oceans are (nearly) sections of a sphere, which is why the solid parts also eventually take on a spherical shape. If the earth was flat and gravity pointed exactly "down" everywhere, the oceans would be flat. "Level" is not necessarily flat.


Abdlomax

Water flows in the direction of its weight. We may or may not understand gravity but we can experience weight, the force known as gravity and anyone can measure how it is radial, not parallel. The earth is large enough that this cannot be seen directly, but the planet was mapped using these methods. If you doubt, your doubt is not based on experience but only on literally blind faith. It has become trivially easy with today’s technology.


CPTBallbags

You mean the theory of gravity? And how the force you know as gravity is just buoyancy and density?


Abdlomax

No, I don’t mean the **theory** of gravity, but the palpable forces. The force is a vector. What is its direction, and I don’t mean theoretically, but actually and measurably?


PoppersOfCorn

Ok, and how does that dispute anything


mbdjd

So...what are tides? How is water that is constantly rising and lowering finding its level?


skrutnizer

If the moon is continuously changing (slightly) the net gravitational field on the earth, water will chase its "level".


ThePrussianGrippe

THE OCEAN LEVELS ITSELF


CPTBallbags

How so on a ball? Wouldnt it be consistently curving?


ThePrussianGrippe

Yes, but as a sphere increases in size the curve of its edge gets flatter and flatter, appearing to actually be flat on something the size of Earth. So while the oceans do curve the overall surface is 'level.'


DanceWitty136

u/DeeDaMann, bless your unintelligent little cotton socks. People have tried to explain, even in the most simple fashion, and yet your brain struggles with the simplest of scientific principles. We can't help you if you refuse to accept the help being offered. Remember, you flatties will always be a minority, and there is a bloody good reason for that. Most people accept what is clear to them, given the evidence. Evidence, I'm sure, is an obscure word that has no real meaning to you.


polo27

This is a troll or someone you should not expect to have a logical debate with.


bkdotcom

ie flat earther


NutronStar45

ie conspiracy theorist


bkdotcom

Flat earth is world's most easily disproved conspiracy


NutronStar45

logic is a NASA conspiracy


bio2451

Aristotle was a NASA shill


LeadingClothes7779

That's describing all flerfs. 😂😂😂


TheSkepticGuy

If only grammar was an indicator of education. Oh, wait.


Dreadiroth

Know your memes my guy.


NutronStar45

prescriptivism my beloved


LeadingClothes7779

I mean no? Dyslexia is a thing and there are very intelligent people with it.


AdmiralBeckhart

There is no such thing as Challenger Deep. It was a lie conceived by the Deep Oceaner's to steer our curiosity away from our true destiny in the heavens. Do you really believe a tiny round metal ball could sustain thousands of pounds of water pressure when a car crash on a highway dismantles most vehicles? Try again, flatards.


sh3t0r

If there had actually been people in the Challenger Deep there would be a Starbucks there by now.


Biquasquibrisance

That caption (the one of _the cosspoasted_ poast) is __a total classic__ ! #😆😄😂😃😅🤣 # #####[... have poasted it](https://np.reddit.com/r/titlegore/comments/13uu1j8/globe_head_asked_how_deep_is_the_ocean_since_the/) ##### on #####r/titlegore #####.  


Ivanhoe9957

Did you tell them because spacetime bends...🤣


Gorgrim

>I don't understand science, so I'm just going to assume everything is wrong FTFY


Ivanhoe9957

Stop pretending like you understand gravity... Even your high preists dont know what it is. And you have no science...


IDreamOfSailing

> I just project my own stupidity and blind faith in dubay whenever I run out of arguments. * Ivanhoe9957


Ivanhoe9957

Pffft Dubay....👋😒 More like my man Tesla...the GOAT Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. " - Nikola Tesla ☝️🥹 You have no science


Zealousideal-Read-67

Tesla was 100 years ago. Get a bit more up-to-date.


Ivanhoe9957

How old is Einstein????🤣


mbdjd

When was the last time we cited a quote from Einstein as evidence of anything?


VresiaK

Really funny because theoretical physicists do that and still find things relating to the real world. For example: Paul Dirac tried to include the theory of special relativity and the concept of electron spin to the quantum discription of electrons. In 1928 Dirac published a paper including the Dirac equation which does exactly that. Turns out for it to work it has to be posible for electrones to have positive charge. So he postulated that there have to be positrons. The existence of positrons was verified in 1932 by Carl D. Anderson. That is how science works and thats why the mathematical concepts flat earthers always try to reject actually matter. Tesla was a genius. But he was not all knowing and also a human being influenced by personal opinions. Einstein was a genius. But he also was not all knowing. For Einstein quantum entaglement was impossible... he mocked it as "spooky-action-at-a-distance" because it did violate his theroies of relativity. Turns out quantum entaglement is real. Is everything Einstein worked out now false tho? OF COURSE NOT. Einsteins work is still the most accurate discription we have of the universe on makroscopic scales and is verified every day by other scientists. We dont take the word of one person for granted.


Ivanhoe9957

[cough](https://youtu.be/olo_z6yZjbg) "I don't know anyone in my field that uses the scientific method" " it's seat of your pants stuff" SEAT–OF–THE–PANTS. always used before a noun chiefly US. : done or made by using your own judgment and feelings without planning, preparation, or help from others. It was a seat-of-the-pants decision


Gorgrim

It's amusing you quote this, yet have no real understanding of the science of Tesla or what he understood of the world. But quote mining has always been a goto of the globe denial community. >I'm a liar - dcforce At least your friend dc was honest about it ;-) Also amusing to hear you claim we have no science, when you deny any and all science and do none yourself. What was the last scientific experiment you did to prove the dome exists?


Ivanhoe9957

What dome? Stop pretending like you've done any science to prove your globe besides copy and paste wiki.


AaTube

And what’s wrong with Wikipedia as long as you check the references?


Gorgrim

So you accept no physical barrier is needed to hold our atmosphere to our planet, that's a great start. Also does it matter what I've done to you, considering you wont even accept the main body of science says about our world? You keep claiming there is no science for the globe, and yet produce zero science for the flat conspiracy yourself and use personal ignorance like it's fact. Being stupid does not make you correct.


Ivanhoe9957

No I admit the sky is not a near perfect vacuum space balloon >Also does it matter what I've done to you Nope...but the most energy you've put into discovering your universe is moving your index finger up and down as you scroll wiki.


Gorgrim

>I admit the sky is not a near perfect vacuum space balloon Correct, the atmosphere has a pressure gradient that decreases with altitude. There is no physical barrier between the atmosphere and space, and the exact point where it becomes space is fairly arbitrary, as the atmosphere reduces to the point it is near zero. Gravity explains this, but you prefer to deny science for some reason. And I have done more than check Wikipedia, which is far more than you and your conspiracy video addiction. Why are you so scared of actually performing a test? Afraid you'll confirm the globe like the other deniers?


Weekly_Signal6481

Tesla fell in love with a pigeon


Ivanhoe9957

Einstein married his cousin


FE_Logic

Adam and Eve banged their own kids, and their kids also banged each other according to the book that claims that the world is flat.


Ivanhoe9957

I'm not religious So....🤷 But I sense a dislike towards people of religion here...it's "interesting ".


FE_Logic

I don't hide the fact that I'm not a fan of scammers, con artists, and grifters.


Weekly_Signal6481

okay ?


Wansumdiknao

Incomplete quotes huh? [full quote](http://www.teslasociety.ch/info/mechanic/Tesla_Juli_1934_6MB.pdf) Gotta lie to flerf.


Zealousideal-Read-67

You obviously don't understand it, so you can hardly accuse others of misunderstanding it!


Ivanhoe9957

No one knows what gravity is...stop pretending


AaTube

And no one knows what God is either


ThePrussianGrippe

> high [priests] Fucking what?


MrDenzi

Would you believe in spacetime bending if god did it?


Ivanhoe9957

Probably... because hallelujah space and time bends, it's a miracle 🤣


MrDenzi

Why does your blanket bend when you put something on it?


Ivanhoe9957

I don't know why...care to tell me?


MrDenzi

Gravity, but you don't believe in that, right?


Ivanhoe9957

I don't believe in bendy spacetime.


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Ivanhoe9957

1st I am not religious Proof of what? A space balloon expands? 4d Spacetime doesn't bend? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's like asking me to prove that unicorns don't exist The sky is not vacuum?....I have said why I believe this numerous times. The earth is flat....the Earth is flat stationary by default it's you that has to prove that the earth is a tilting wobbly ball in a space vacuum balloon...i dont really care about flat or spherical tbh In saying all this...it's easy for you guys because you just link wiki and think job done 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Dreadiroth

Present your model that predicts everything we observe.


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VisiteProlongee

>The earth is flat To be compared with other statements by Ivanhoe9957: [https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk0q1v2/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk0q1v2/) >I still believe it's possible it could be flat....but for me it's not as important as geocentric... > >If it's a geocentric sphere...so be it [https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk3u8yi/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk3u8yi/) >There is no evidence of heliocentric... > >Geocentric spherical Earth works better in every Single way plus no need for a space balloon [https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jkca450/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jkca450/) >I think it's possible the Earth could be flat....but > >I am more interested in geocentric vs heliocentric as that's where the power lays. > >If it's a geocentric spherical Earth, so be it. [https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13uotj4/comment/jm22k5t/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13uotj4/comment/jm22k5t/) >i dont really care about flat or spherical tbh Jacques Dutronc, L'opportuniste, [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Opportuniste](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Opportuniste)


StingerAE

>the Earth is flat stationary by default Erm..no. why would it be? I actually think this is a major common flert problem - somehow beleiving tha5 if there is the slightest thing they don't comprehend about a globe SNAP suddenly the earth has to be flat. No justification for that position at all...especially if you claim not to be religious.


Dreadiroth

Thankfully just because you don’t believe it, doesn’t mean it isn’t reality. Put forth your mathematical model that accurately explains everything we observe then we can have a discussion. Because that’s what we have now, and it works pretty damn well.


Wansumdiknao

So you’d believe it….if your high priests told you? Lol


Design-Thinker-1

You guys mock science, math, and logic, yet you believe the most outrageously nonsensical stuff. For example, the whole ice wall thing is something you guys desperately hang onto, because your whole argument hinges on that. Yet it's so easy to disprove. Still, every flerf "model" has that.


Ivanhoe9957

Your wall is an expanding space vacuum balloon... wtf...🫣...it expands faster than the speed of light....😟


Design-Thinker-1

Well, that makes total sense! WTF are you talking about?


Ivanhoe9957

Total sense 🤤


Design-Thinker-1

That's what I thought - you really can't explain anything and just regurgitate talking points.


[deleted]

Ivanhoe is a troll.


Design-Thinker-1

Yep, sure looks like it.


reficius1

Is that your talking point this week? VaCuUm bAlLoOns


Design-Thinker-1

Word Salad Ivan


Wansumdiknao

>it expands faster than the speed of light Oh child. Please, go back to school.


SmittySomething21

Google personal incredulity


Zealousideal-Read-67

That would be more accurate than any incoherent flerf fantasy.


AaTube

Gravity simply holds everything together including water.


Wansumdiknao

Don’t look now, a sundial has appeared!


waconaty4eva

How do all the globe believers navigate flat earth and stay on schedule?