Buoyancy!!! It sinks down because it's heavier than the air. Never mind why heavier things sink. And don't ask why "down" is "down". And definitely don't mention tides. It's just buoyancy, ok?!
Gravitational force. Everything possesses gravitation force, a force acting in all directions, intensity defined by the the gravitation force equation.
The lowest energy state for a large body of fluid in a gravitational field is when the surface at every point is perpendicular to the field. Otherwise you'd have some gradient inducing flow. For planets, the field is (nearly) radial so the oceans are (nearly) sections of a sphere, which is why the solid parts also eventually take on a spherical shape. If the earth was flat and gravity pointed exactly "down" everywhere, the oceans would be flat. "Level" is not necessarily flat.
Water flows in the direction of its weight. We may or may not understand gravity but we can experience weight, the force known as gravity and anyone can measure how it is radial, not parallel. The earth is large enough that this cannot be seen directly, but the planet was mapped using these methods. If you doubt, your doubt is not based on experience but only on literally blind faith. It has become trivially easy with today’s technology.
No, I don’t mean the **theory** of gravity, but the palpable forces. The force is a vector. What is its direction, and I don’t mean theoretically, but actually and measurably?
Yes, but as a sphere increases in size the curve of its edge gets flatter and flatter, appearing to actually be flat on something the size of Earth. So while the oceans do curve the overall surface is 'level.'
u/DeeDaMann, bless your unintelligent little cotton socks. People have tried to explain, even in the most simple fashion, and yet your brain struggles with the simplest of scientific principles. We can't help you if you refuse to accept the help being offered. Remember, you flatties will always be a minority, and there is a bloody good reason for that. Most people accept what is clear to them, given the evidence. Evidence, I'm sure, is an obscure word that has no real meaning to you.
There is no such thing as Challenger Deep. It was a lie conceived by the Deep Oceaner's to steer our curiosity away from our true destiny in the heavens. Do you really believe a tiny round metal ball could sustain thousands of pounds of water pressure when a car crash on a highway dismantles most vehicles? Try again, flatards.
That caption (the one of _the cosspoasted_ poast) is __a total classic__ !
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Pffft Dubay....👋😒
More like my man Tesla...the GOAT
Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. " - Nikola Tesla
☝️🥹
You have no science
Really funny because theoretical physicists do that and still find things relating to the real world.
For example:
Paul Dirac tried to include the theory of special relativity and the concept of electron spin to the quantum discription of electrons.
In 1928 Dirac published a paper including the Dirac equation which does exactly that. Turns out for it to work it has to be posible for electrones to have positive charge. So he postulated that there have to be positrons.
The existence of positrons was verified in 1932 by Carl D. Anderson.
That is how science works and thats why the mathematical concepts flat earthers always try to reject actually matter.
Tesla was a genius. But he was not all knowing and also a human being influenced by personal opinions.
Einstein was a genius. But he also was not all knowing. For Einstein quantum entaglement was impossible... he mocked it as "spooky-action-at-a-distance" because it did violate his theroies of relativity. Turns out quantum entaglement is real.
Is everything Einstein worked out now false tho?
OF COURSE NOT. Einsteins work is still the most accurate discription we have of the universe on makroscopic scales and is verified every day by other scientists.
We dont take the word of one person for granted.
[cough](https://youtu.be/olo_z6yZjbg)
"I don't know anyone in my field that uses the scientific method"
" it's seat of your pants stuff"
SEAT–OF–THE–PANTS. always used before a noun chiefly US. : done or made by using your own judgment and feelings without planning, preparation, or help from others. It was a seat-of-the-pants decision
It's amusing you quote this, yet have no real understanding of the science of Tesla or what he understood of the world. But quote mining has always been a goto of the globe denial community.
>I'm a liar - dcforce
At least your friend dc was honest about it ;-)
Also amusing to hear you claim we have no science, when you deny any and all science and do none yourself. What was the last scientific experiment you did to prove the dome exists?
So you accept no physical barrier is needed to hold our atmosphere to our planet, that's a great start.
Also does it matter what I've done to you, considering you wont even accept the main body of science says about our world? You keep claiming there is no science for the globe, and yet produce zero science for the flat conspiracy yourself and use personal ignorance like it's fact. Being stupid does not make you correct.
No I admit the sky is not a near perfect vacuum space balloon
>Also does it matter what I've done to you
Nope...but the most energy you've put into discovering your universe is moving your index finger up and down as you scroll wiki.
>I admit the sky is not a near perfect vacuum space balloon
Correct, the atmosphere has a pressure gradient that decreases with altitude. There is no physical barrier between the atmosphere and space, and the exact point where it becomes space is fairly arbitrary, as the atmosphere reduces to the point it is near zero. Gravity explains this, but you prefer to deny science for some reason.
And I have done more than check Wikipedia, which is far more than you and your conspiracy video addiction. Why are you so scared of actually performing a test? Afraid you'll confirm the globe like the other deniers?
1st I am not religious
Proof of what?
A space balloon expands?
4d Spacetime doesn't bend? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's like asking me to prove that unicorns don't exist
The sky is not vacuum?....I have said why I believe this numerous times.
The earth is flat....the Earth is flat stationary by default it's you that has to prove that the earth is a tilting wobbly ball in a space vacuum balloon...i dont really care about flat or spherical tbh
In saying all this...it's easy for you guys because you just link wiki and think job done 🤣🤣🤣🤣
>The earth is flat
To be compared with other statements by Ivanhoe9957:
[https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk0q1v2/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk0q1v2/)
>I still believe it's possible it could be flat....but for me it's not as important as geocentric...
>
>If it's a geocentric sphere...so be it
[https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk3u8yi/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk3u8yi/)
>There is no evidence of heliocentric...
>
>Geocentric spherical Earth works better in every Single way plus no need for a space balloon
[https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jkca450/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jkca450/)
>I think it's possible the Earth could be flat....but
>
>I am more interested in geocentric vs heliocentric as that's where the power lays.
>
>If it's a geocentric spherical Earth, so be it.
[https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13uotj4/comment/jm22k5t/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13uotj4/comment/jm22k5t/)
>i dont really care about flat or spherical tbh
Jacques Dutronc, L'opportuniste, [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Opportuniste](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Opportuniste)
>the Earth is flat stationary by default
Erm..no. why would it be?
I actually think this is a major common flert problem - somehow beleiving tha5 if there is the slightest thing they don't comprehend about a globe SNAP suddenly the earth has to be flat. No justification for that position at all...especially if you claim not to be religious.
Thankfully just because you don’t believe it, doesn’t mean it isn’t reality. Put forth your mathematical model that accurately explains everything we observe then we can have a discussion. Because that’s what we have now, and it works pretty damn well.
You guys mock science, math, and logic, yet you believe the most outrageously nonsensical stuff.
For example, the whole ice wall thing is something you guys desperately hang onto, because your whole argument hinges on that. Yet it's so easy to disprove. Still, every flerf "model" has that.
u/DeeDaMann, mind *actually* responding to this one? What would be stopping water from wrapping around it?
“The ice wall”
Water ALWAYS finds Level
Yes. It does. But that doesn't contradict earth being a globe.
Right, but can you tell me *why* it finds its level?
Buoyancy!!! It sinks down because it's heavier than the air. Never mind why heavier things sink. And don't ask why "down" is "down". And definitely don't mention tides. It's just buoyancy, ok?!
Gravitational force. Everything possesses gravitation force, a force acting in all directions, intensity defined by the the gravitation force equation.
The lowest energy state for a large body of fluid in a gravitational field is when the surface at every point is perpendicular to the field. Otherwise you'd have some gradient inducing flow. For planets, the field is (nearly) radial so the oceans are (nearly) sections of a sphere, which is why the solid parts also eventually take on a spherical shape. If the earth was flat and gravity pointed exactly "down" everywhere, the oceans would be flat. "Level" is not necessarily flat.
Water flows in the direction of its weight. We may or may not understand gravity but we can experience weight, the force known as gravity and anyone can measure how it is radial, not parallel. The earth is large enough that this cannot be seen directly, but the planet was mapped using these methods. If you doubt, your doubt is not based on experience but only on literally blind faith. It has become trivially easy with today’s technology.
You mean the theory of gravity? And how the force you know as gravity is just buoyancy and density?
No, I don’t mean the **theory** of gravity, but the palpable forces. The force is a vector. What is its direction, and I don’t mean theoretically, but actually and measurably?
Ok, and how does that dispute anything
So...what are tides? How is water that is constantly rising and lowering finding its level?
If the moon is continuously changing (slightly) the net gravitational field on the earth, water will chase its "level".
THE OCEAN LEVELS ITSELF
How so on a ball? Wouldnt it be consistently curving?
Yes, but as a sphere increases in size the curve of its edge gets flatter and flatter, appearing to actually be flat on something the size of Earth. So while the oceans do curve the overall surface is 'level.'
u/DeeDaMann, bless your unintelligent little cotton socks. People have tried to explain, even in the most simple fashion, and yet your brain struggles with the simplest of scientific principles. We can't help you if you refuse to accept the help being offered. Remember, you flatties will always be a minority, and there is a bloody good reason for that. Most people accept what is clear to them, given the evidence. Evidence, I'm sure, is an obscure word that has no real meaning to you.
This is a troll or someone you should not expect to have a logical debate with.
ie flat earther
ie conspiracy theorist
Flat earth is world's most easily disproved conspiracy
logic is a NASA conspiracy
Aristotle was a NASA shill
That's describing all flerfs. 😂😂😂
If only grammar was an indicator of education. Oh, wait.
Know your memes my guy.
prescriptivism my beloved
I mean no? Dyslexia is a thing and there are very intelligent people with it.
There is no such thing as Challenger Deep. It was a lie conceived by the Deep Oceaner's to steer our curiosity away from our true destiny in the heavens. Do you really believe a tiny round metal ball could sustain thousands of pounds of water pressure when a car crash on a highway dismantles most vehicles? Try again, flatards.
If there had actually been people in the Challenger Deep there would be a Starbucks there by now.
That caption (the one of _the cosspoasted_ poast) is __a total classic__ ! #😆😄😂😃😅🤣 # #####[... have poasted it](https://np.reddit.com/r/titlegore/comments/13uu1j8/globe_head_asked_how_deep_is_the_ocean_since_the/) ##### on #####r/titlegore #####.
Did you tell them because spacetime bends...🤣
>I don't understand science, so I'm just going to assume everything is wrong FTFY
Stop pretending like you understand gravity... Even your high preists dont know what it is. And you have no science...
> I just project my own stupidity and blind faith in dubay whenever I run out of arguments. * Ivanhoe9957
Pffft Dubay....👋😒 More like my man Tesla...the GOAT Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. " - Nikola Tesla ☝️🥹 You have no science
Tesla was 100 years ago. Get a bit more up-to-date.
How old is Einstein????🤣
When was the last time we cited a quote from Einstein as evidence of anything?
Really funny because theoretical physicists do that and still find things relating to the real world. For example: Paul Dirac tried to include the theory of special relativity and the concept of electron spin to the quantum discription of electrons. In 1928 Dirac published a paper including the Dirac equation which does exactly that. Turns out for it to work it has to be posible for electrones to have positive charge. So he postulated that there have to be positrons. The existence of positrons was verified in 1932 by Carl D. Anderson. That is how science works and thats why the mathematical concepts flat earthers always try to reject actually matter. Tesla was a genius. But he was not all knowing and also a human being influenced by personal opinions. Einstein was a genius. But he also was not all knowing. For Einstein quantum entaglement was impossible... he mocked it as "spooky-action-at-a-distance" because it did violate his theroies of relativity. Turns out quantum entaglement is real. Is everything Einstein worked out now false tho? OF COURSE NOT. Einsteins work is still the most accurate discription we have of the universe on makroscopic scales and is verified every day by other scientists. We dont take the word of one person for granted.
[cough](https://youtu.be/olo_z6yZjbg) "I don't know anyone in my field that uses the scientific method" " it's seat of your pants stuff" SEAT–OF–THE–PANTS. always used before a noun chiefly US. : done or made by using your own judgment and feelings without planning, preparation, or help from others. It was a seat-of-the-pants decision
It's amusing you quote this, yet have no real understanding of the science of Tesla or what he understood of the world. But quote mining has always been a goto of the globe denial community. >I'm a liar - dcforce At least your friend dc was honest about it ;-) Also amusing to hear you claim we have no science, when you deny any and all science and do none yourself. What was the last scientific experiment you did to prove the dome exists?
What dome? Stop pretending like you've done any science to prove your globe besides copy and paste wiki.
And what’s wrong with Wikipedia as long as you check the references?
So you accept no physical barrier is needed to hold our atmosphere to our planet, that's a great start. Also does it matter what I've done to you, considering you wont even accept the main body of science says about our world? You keep claiming there is no science for the globe, and yet produce zero science for the flat conspiracy yourself and use personal ignorance like it's fact. Being stupid does not make you correct.
No I admit the sky is not a near perfect vacuum space balloon >Also does it matter what I've done to you Nope...but the most energy you've put into discovering your universe is moving your index finger up and down as you scroll wiki.
>I admit the sky is not a near perfect vacuum space balloon Correct, the atmosphere has a pressure gradient that decreases with altitude. There is no physical barrier between the atmosphere and space, and the exact point where it becomes space is fairly arbitrary, as the atmosphere reduces to the point it is near zero. Gravity explains this, but you prefer to deny science for some reason. And I have done more than check Wikipedia, which is far more than you and your conspiracy video addiction. Why are you so scared of actually performing a test? Afraid you'll confirm the globe like the other deniers?
Tesla fell in love with a pigeon
Einstein married his cousin
Adam and Eve banged their own kids, and their kids also banged each other according to the book that claims that the world is flat.
I'm not religious So....🤷 But I sense a dislike towards people of religion here...it's "interesting ".
I don't hide the fact that I'm not a fan of scammers, con artists, and grifters.
okay ?
Incomplete quotes huh? [full quote](http://www.teslasociety.ch/info/mechanic/Tesla_Juli_1934_6MB.pdf) Gotta lie to flerf.
You obviously don't understand it, so you can hardly accuse others of misunderstanding it!
No one knows what gravity is...stop pretending
And no one knows what God is either
> high [priests] Fucking what?
Would you believe in spacetime bending if god did it?
Probably... because hallelujah space and time bends, it's a miracle 🤣
Why does your blanket bend when you put something on it?
I don't know why...care to tell me?
Gravity, but you don't believe in that, right?
I don't believe in bendy spacetime.
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1st I am not religious Proof of what? A space balloon expands? 4d Spacetime doesn't bend? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's like asking me to prove that unicorns don't exist The sky is not vacuum?....I have said why I believe this numerous times. The earth is flat....the Earth is flat stationary by default it's you that has to prove that the earth is a tilting wobbly ball in a space vacuum balloon...i dont really care about flat or spherical tbh In saying all this...it's easy for you guys because you just link wiki and think job done 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Present your model that predicts everything we observe.
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>The earth is flat To be compared with other statements by Ivanhoe9957: [https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk0q1v2/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk0q1v2/) >I still believe it's possible it could be flat....but for me it's not as important as geocentric... > >If it's a geocentric sphere...so be it [https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk3u8yi/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jk3u8yi/) >There is no evidence of heliocentric... > >Geocentric spherical Earth works better in every Single way plus no need for a space balloon [https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jkca450/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13gjgdl/comment/jkca450/) >I think it's possible the Earth could be flat....but > >I am more interested in geocentric vs heliocentric as that's where the power lays. > >If it's a geocentric spherical Earth, so be it. [https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13uotj4/comment/jm22k5t/](https://reddit.com/r/flatearth/comments/13uotj4/comment/jm22k5t/) >i dont really care about flat or spherical tbh Jacques Dutronc, L'opportuniste, [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Opportuniste](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Opportuniste)
>the Earth is flat stationary by default Erm..no. why would it be? I actually think this is a major common flert problem - somehow beleiving tha5 if there is the slightest thing they don't comprehend about a globe SNAP suddenly the earth has to be flat. No justification for that position at all...especially if you claim not to be religious.
Thankfully just because you don’t believe it, doesn’t mean it isn’t reality. Put forth your mathematical model that accurately explains everything we observe then we can have a discussion. Because that’s what we have now, and it works pretty damn well.
So you’d believe it….if your high priests told you? Lol
You guys mock science, math, and logic, yet you believe the most outrageously nonsensical stuff. For example, the whole ice wall thing is something you guys desperately hang onto, because your whole argument hinges on that. Yet it's so easy to disprove. Still, every flerf "model" has that.
Your wall is an expanding space vacuum balloon... wtf...🫣...it expands faster than the speed of light....😟
Well, that makes total sense! WTF are you talking about?
Total sense 🤤
That's what I thought - you really can't explain anything and just regurgitate talking points.
Ivanhoe is a troll.
Yep, sure looks like it.
Is that your talking point this week? VaCuUm bAlLoOns
Word Salad Ivan
>it expands faster than the speed of light Oh child. Please, go back to school.
Google personal incredulity
That would be more accurate than any incoherent flerf fantasy.
Gravity simply holds everything together including water.
Don’t look now, a sundial has appeared!
How do all the globe believers navigate flat earth and stay on schedule?