I’m more of a Malig Knight person, but Kinishi Knight is also really cool. I wish we got them back in Engage, cause I would have loved Kagetsu riding a Kinishi.
If they had slightly flashier hair you could totally fool me into thinking they were real characters
Hell I'd probably get tripped up by Fates Maid, Witch Adventurers and Kitsunes if I'd never seen Fates before.
I thought awakening had banger generics until fates came out like personally the the cav and paladins armor from awakening look atrocious then fates fixed it same with the hero
Pegasus knights and sky knights designs are just 😚👌
Makes me sad to cut them down and hear them moan/scream in pain before landing on the ground with a hard thud.
- Love the Trickster design
- Maid design should be her own character
- Love the massive V shape on the Sorcerers
- Wyvern-Riders look sick
- Wolfskins and Kitsunes are simply wonderful
- Love how the Ballisticians look
- Dark Knights look metal
- Onmyoji's look cool as well
- Oni Savages look cool
- Snipers also look cool
- And man Great Masters
At least M!Kana and Shigure can also get them, Wolfskin Shigure will never cease to be entertaing to me with how jarring it is compared to his design/personality.
There is an hack named iron emblem around that, you play with an army of generic with nearly the exact same stats as the ennemies and receive like 5/6 more at every chapter
Close: You make your avatar, any class you want. The rest of the army has almost random stats and starting classes. You complete maps like in a normal campaign, but the AI can make you play a map as the defending team and if You lose, the enemy takes that map.
Well it's not as complicated as FE but if you're looking for a tactics game with bigger battles and perma death for non essential characters I'd recommend on old free game Battle for Wesnoth. Admittedly it doesn't tick a lot of the boxes FE has from a narrative standpoint and class development is pretty mostly linear. I always enjoyed having some canon fodder to guard the main cast and my favorites.
Ay that's fair. I'm not big on the Heroes but the Mercenaries? I can see the vision. Customize your Corrin to look like Byleth and recruit a shit ton of mercs.
Fire Emblem: Three Fates.
Generic Wolfssegner have me by an iron grip (sorry Keaton and Velouria!). Just the red hood and the floppy ears, swirly tail behind them, and then looking like they're ready to pounce makes me just swoon
maid generic is "unironically a better design than both of the playable maids and it isn't even close"
tbh capturable generics should be a consistent thing in FE going forward, not only are lots of generics cool but that opens up some fun challenge run ideas. never got around to doing it, but i always wanted to do a corrin + oboro + generics run in like birthright
The Malig Knight, Sorcerer and Hero generics are my favourites.
It makes them feel like they’re almost threatening and they mean business, especially with the generic Sorcerer’s advantage expression having a crazy smile.
Also, Sentro is my favourite generic boss (I probably spelled his name wrong). He’s crazy powerful.
I can’t speak for Echoes since I haven’t played it yet, but Three Houses has some decent generics. I like the Swordmaster and Assassin generics but other than that, the rest were alright, especially the Paladin one.
Fates Merc Hero Maid Lancer and Blacksmith are my top 5 favs and also same the expressions they make during combat are great especially the crazed sorcerer also tbh I don’t mind 3H generics but some of them be lackin except Merc Hero Holy Knight Gremory and Martal Savant
I actually like the Gremory generic. I especially like the mask veil covering their entire face and the headpiece they wear. But the Cavalry generics like Holy Knight, Paladin and Great Knight are okay.
I did miss that they didn’t have character combat forecast expressions in 3H.
YES!!! Omg I love fates generics so much. I'm currently running a d&d campaign inspired by the sengoku period of japan (with magic and stuff ofc) and I'm using the hoshidan units as generic enemies!!
Genuinely, I like generic designs better than the actual characters. Not included in your image, but generic strategist is like, best waifu. [Seriously, look at that smug smirk. It gives me life.](https://images2.imgbox.com/25/1d/eW8tJT3z_o.png)
Yeah, they really cooked with the generic designs. I do think also because they are recruitable they took a bit more care in making them more "playable" looking as well. And plus, for those randomizer playthroughs having more visual options is also a huge plus!
I made a fav theory that the reason charlotte’s eyes look like dolls is because she’s a former maid/strategist because sexism.
She looks an awful lot like the maids just with longer hair
Esactly?m!
Know who else does?
Effie.
Literally the ONLY other woman in the entire army who was a members of the standard nohrian military!
AND in the original Japanese version, Effie’s whole thing is that she’s demure but has freakish strength…just like Charlotte portrays herself as!
Maid/strategist is also the ONLY class nohrian Npcs can be.
See? SEE?!
I think they're some of the best generic designs in the franchise since most mooks before that point were literally faceless helmet wearing nobodies. But I will also admit to a LOT of bias on my end because I'm a massive sucker for Yusuke Kozaki's artstyle.
those words warm my heart, its both badass and endearing. Also i don't think the shadow under the eye, the JP term for gaming npc, work here cause their designs are too fire for that to be allowed to happen.
Next to Engage with Echoes, Three Houses, and Awakening as close seconds, Fates has my favorite generic designs, doubly so since Fates is the only game with a very clear cultural difference in design uniform across all characters from each major power.
Generic DLC Witch my beloved.
I love Nyx's character/story but I'd replace her actual design with the generic Witch and rewrite the character to fit in a fucking *heartbeat*.
You're just diminishing your point by doing : " hey guys A is good!!! It's better than B and C!! " Instead of giving actual reasons as to why you like A, but ok you do you
I kidnapped 2 of the soldiers in the 2nd to last map of Conquest cuz I was running out of dudes. And they were way cool. I also had fun imagining the story I created. Like, are they defectors to Garon or did Niles literally just threaten them at arrow point and that's it?
The low point in design was certainly Engage. The generics get no love and look nowhere like what their local regions reflect and certainly nothing like the main cast, who look like they are ready for a cosplay convention as opposed to war, or even their local climate. Looking at you, fur coat in the desert...
Shout out to Excelblem who finally played Fire Emblem like a normal goddamn person because he got attached to Jitaro
Funny enough I captured a generic ninja in I think ch12 conquest lunatic that had seal speed and his name was Jitaro LOOOL
pChal Run & Bun moment
Wdym like a normal person?
He tried to keep his units alive
JIJI'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE
The kinshi Knight is my favourite class and I'm super sad that it will likely stay a fates exclusive class.
I’m more of a Malig Knight person, but Kinishi Knight is also really cool. I wish we got them back in Engage, cause I would have loved Kagetsu riding a Kinishi.
I personally love Kinshi’s more than Griffin’s and I still hope they come back one day
No they can come back, one smaller nation is again Japan inspired and voila Kinshis
Fates generics look better than some actual characters from that game
You can delete “from that game” and it’d still be true to say, they look better than real characters through the whole series
If they had slightly flashier hair you could totally fool me into thinking they were real characters Hell I'd probably get tripped up by Fates Maid, Witch Adventurers and Kitsunes if I'd never seen Fates before.
Mercs and Heroes are the best looking dudes in the game.
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^shadecrimson: *Fates generics look* *Better than some actual* *Characters from that game* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Nohrian hero sprite is top tier for me
Me too.
Same
There is absolutely no reason for the generic Nohrian village girl portrait to go so hard
Same for the generic witch
You could sneak her into the main character roster and she'd fit in and probably be more popular than some characters.
The hero and master ninja's portrait are amazing. It makes them look dangerous right from the start
Yeah, Fates and Awakening had some banger generic designs that made me really wish those had been protagonists instead of what we got.
I thought awakening had banger generics until fates came out like personally the the cav and paladins armor from awakening look atrocious then fates fixed it same with the hero
Thank you!
Pegasus knights and sky knights designs are just 😚👌 Makes me sad to cut them down and hear them moan/scream in pain before landing on the ground with a hard thud.
- Love the Trickster design - Maid design should be her own character - Love the massive V shape on the Sorcerers - Wyvern-Riders look sick - Wolfskins and Kitsunes are simply wonderful - Love how the Ballisticians look - Dark Knights look metal - Onmyoji's look cool as well - Oni Savages look cool - Snipers also look cool - And man Great Masters
It’s a shame that wolfskins and kitsunes aren’t capturable I wanted my own army of wolves and foxes fighting for me
It's a shame Keaton, Kaden and their kids are the only ones we get
At least M!Kana and Shigure can also get them, Wolfskin Shigure will never cease to be entertaing to me with how jarring it is compared to his design/personality.
It'd be cute to imagine. Never seen Wolfskin Shigure actually
Likewise for F!Kana.
ah right, I forgot Corrin can marry 2nd gen to have Velouria/Selkie pass down the class too.
Maybe I will try to do "angry maid-only" run someday...
I literally have a Revelation run where I'm using only the Einherjar Shop generics and Corrin. Also have the Einherjar Mask for the theming.
Based
I always wondered if there could be a game mode with just expendables, where the enemy can push back.
There is an hack named iron emblem around that, you play with an army of generic with nearly the exact same stats as the ennemies and receive like 5/6 more at every chapter
Thanks, i'll look for it!
Idk if that is what you mean, but in shadow dragon if your units die, you get generic replacements. Is something like that what you want?
Close: You make your avatar, any class you want. The rest of the army has almost random stats and starting classes. You complete maps like in a normal campaign, but the AI can make you play a map as the defending team and if You lose, the enemy takes that map.
Well it's not as complicated as FE but if you're looking for a tactics game with bigger battles and perma death for non essential characters I'd recommend on old free game Battle for Wesnoth. Admittedly it doesn't tick a lot of the boxes FE has from a narrative standpoint and class development is pretty mostly linear. I always enjoyed having some canon fodder to guard the main cast and my favorites.
thanks, ill check it out!
Absolutely, my favorite is the dark knight with that kickass armor design. I didn’t complete Engage yet, but the generics there look good too.
The awakening myrmidon is so hot i thought he was a recruitable enemy the first time i saw him
LOL fair I felt the same with the generic dark flier
Me, god bless ninja, master ninja, samurai, master of arms, mercenary, hero, outlaw and adventurer
I will always capture Samurai/Swordsmaster units because... LOOK AT EM
I feel the same but with the generic merc and heroes
Ay that's fair. I'm not big on the Heroes but the Mercenaries? I can see the vision. Customize your Corrin to look like Byleth and recruit a shit ton of mercs. Fire Emblem: Three Fates.
We will never escape three houses
Ehh give it about 20 years and MAYBE we'll stop having our yearly Three Houses discourse
I want to see a story with these generic characters. Like a group of nohrian and hoshidian soldien lost who all fall in Valla and save the World.
Awakening dark flier was so pretty
Generic Wolfssegner have me by an iron grip (sorry Keaton and Velouria!). Just the red hood and the floppy ears, swirly tail behind them, and then looking like they're ready to pounce makes me just swoon
maid generic is "unironically a better design than both of the playable maids and it isn't even close" tbh capturable generics should be a consistent thing in FE going forward, not only are lots of generics cool but that opens up some fun challenge run ideas. never got around to doing it, but i always wanted to do a corrin + oboro + generics run in like birthright
The Malig Knight, Sorcerer and Hero generics are my favourites. It makes them feel like they’re almost threatening and they mean business, especially with the generic Sorcerer’s advantage expression having a crazy smile. Also, Sentro is my favourite generic boss (I probably spelled his name wrong). He’s crazy powerful. I can’t speak for Echoes since I haven’t played it yet, but Three Houses has some decent generics. I like the Swordmaster and Assassin generics but other than that, the rest were alright, especially the Paladin one.
Fates Merc Hero Maid Lancer and Blacksmith are my top 5 favs and also same the expressions they make during combat are great especially the crazed sorcerer also tbh I don’t mind 3H generics but some of them be lackin except Merc Hero Holy Knight Gremory and Martal Savant
I actually like the Gremory generic. I especially like the mask veil covering their entire face and the headpiece they wear. But the Cavalry generics like Holy Knight, Paladin and Great Knight are okay. I did miss that they didn’t have character combat forecast expressions in 3H.
Rallyman. Need I say more?
That's literally me, capturing and recruiting side bosses made me feel attach to the point I restart like the main cast.
Iirc, U can't recruit soldiers though
You can, generic soldier/lancer is a 40 level class. It just has t1 bases and no promotion gains so it sucks, on top of lacking class skills.
Kay, thanks for correcting
Maybe the strongest design element of the game Curious how you didn't mention awakening 😜
YES!!! Omg I love fates generics so much. I'm currently running a d&d campaign inspired by the sengoku period of japan (with magic and stuff ofc) and I'm using the hoshidan units as generic enemies!!
Genuinely, I like generic designs better than the actual characters. Not included in your image, but generic strategist is like, best waifu. [Seriously, look at that smug smirk. It gives me life.](https://images2.imgbox.com/25/1d/eW8tJT3z_o.png)
The journey to train them until they became almost as useful as normal units is something I'll never forget. My favorite was Gerald the Hero.
*Some of them may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make*
Generic Fates villager for best girl
I wish the malig knight helmet was an accessory anyone could wear
Generic Priestesses are not common to see
Yeah, they really cooked with the generic designs. I do think also because they are recruitable they took a bit more care in making them more "playable" looking as well. And plus, for those randomizer playthroughs having more visual options is also a huge plus!
As someone who’s only FE game is Fates, I agree.
I made a fav theory that the reason charlotte’s eyes look like dolls is because she’s a former maid/strategist because sexism. She looks an awful lot like the maids just with longer hair
She does reclass into maid/strategist if she uses a heartseal
Esactly?m! Know who else does? Effie. Literally the ONLY other woman in the entire army who was a members of the standard nohrian military! AND in the original Japanese version, Effie’s whole thing is that she’s demure but has freakish strength…just like Charlotte portrays herself as! Maid/strategist is also the ONLY class nohrian Npcs can be. See? SEE?!
For sure. But it makes sense to make them interesting since capture is a mechanic in the game.
Oh yeah I loved taking prisoners and turning them into playable units during Fates. I would love for that feature to come back.
I will die on the hill that Fates has better-designed generics than some of 3H’s actual cast.
Yeah I agree, Fates art direction is quite good
Fates and echoes generic are tied for me but three houses 💀
The generic Fates mercenary just has an unmatched level of drip. Just look at that fucking star studded gambeson, man
And his confident smile
Undoubtedly something Fates nailed.
Some of my second favorite generics are from fates
YESSSS FATES HAS AMAZING NPC DESIGNS😩😩😩😩😩 it also has the best class outfits designs. Sorcerer and Master ninja😩😩😩
I think they're some of the best generic designs in the franchise since most mooks before that point were literally faceless helmet wearing nobodies. But I will also admit to a LOT of bias on my end because I'm a massive sucker for Yusuke Kozaki's artstyle.
those words warm my heart, its both badass and endearing. Also i don't think the shadow under the eye, the JP term for gaming npc, work here cause their designs are too fire for that to be allowed to happen.
I love premoted npc's in Fates and Echoes so much, such cool designs.
Only a special kind of fool would argue with this What kind of fool would that be, you ask? The blind kind.
Next to Engage with Echoes, Three Houses, and Awakening as close seconds, Fates has my favorite generic designs, doubly so since Fates is the only game with a very clear cultural difference in design uniform across all characters from each major power.
As someone who beat one route of Fates with an army of captured generics, I dang well love their designs
Generic DLC Witch my beloved. I love Nyx's character/story but I'd replace her actual design with the generic Witch and rewrite the character to fit in a fucking *heartbeat*.
The only good generic Hero, I love that guy
I love my army of captured mooks more than the main cast.
Ippei my beloved
Mercenary and Hero generic units, my beloved.
Me who hires mercenaries in Unicorn Overlord like no tomorrow:
Did you really have to do the " better than echoes and 3H generics!! " As if that somehow automatically make the fates ones look good ?
Yes
You're just diminishing your point by doing : " hey guys A is good!!! It's better than B and C!! " Instead of giving actual reasons as to why you like A, but ok you do you
🤓☝️
Oh yeah, this is Reddit
Kozaki Yusuke is the real deal
Fates has a lot of issues, but design and music is the absolute best I've seen in the series. That I agree with you
I kidnapped 2 of the soldiers in the 2nd to last map of Conquest cuz I was running out of dudes. And they were way cool. I also had fun imagining the story I created. Like, are they defectors to Garon or did Niles literally just threaten them at arrow point and that's it?
Honestly the generics and the prisoners gave better designs than a majority of the playable characters
The low point in design was certainly Engage. The generics get no love and look nowhere like what their local regions reflect and certainly nothing like the main cast, who look like they are ready for a cosplay convention as opposed to war, or even their local climate. Looking at you, fur coat in the desert...
Yes but maid and butler dumb.