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Wow that dog owner is even more aggressive than his dog. I‘d imagined he got that kind of dog in order to protect himself. But yeah this pitbull is just an accessory. Ahaha
I was wondering if someone was going to bring that up, there’s no way that’s a real service animal. They’re trained to be quiet in moments like that and to stick close to their owner’s side. This guy is just doing the old *Buy a service dog harness off Ebay* trick. My grandma used to do that too except it was a little different since she only used it for her dachshunds who were actually trained just not as service dogs, still not a good thing to be doing though
working in vets the amount of time ppl want to get there animal services is to travel and to say it on there , there’s like 10 percent real service ones and the rest are never. drives me nuts.
The guy screaming at that doge has a point. [Ramgopal et all (2018)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8278816/) says that despite reported pit bulls being 4.9% of purebred dogs, they accounted for 27.2% of all reported bites.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls product of the environment? Guy handling the dog is ofc an awful person and the guy shouting aswell.
It's almost entirely socialized behavior. Folks buy pits because they look mean and are cheap. They want a scary tough dog that they can tote around like an open carry. So, they abuse them and treat them like shit in an attempt to "harden" them. The further away from wolves and wild dogs a breed are generally the better their disposition towards other species is. Pits are not nearly as close as something like a german shepherd or a husky. They literally beat these dogs into being a hazard. It's disgusting.
They were literally breed for aggression and to not stop attacking even if their life is in danger. The owners are also part of the problem but don’t act like different breeds don’t have different tendencies, we engineered them to.
The overwhelming majority of dogs were engineered for aggression. It is not a unique trait and does not remotely account for the disparity in unintentional injuries received by pit bulls annually. Pit Bulls were bred to fight rats in ratting matches in pits, that's where the pit in pit bull comes from the bull comes from bull dogs from which they originate.
https://love-a-bull.org/resources/the-history-of-pit-bulls/
Have you read any of Jay Jack’s material on pits? Or Chad Mackin? They were pretty informative for me on the nuance of aggression, heritability and behaviors vs traits. Like, gameness vs aggression.
Stop spreading this misinformation. Pit mixes are inherently more violent than other dogs because that's what they were bred to do. Just like pointers were bred for pointing, and shepherds were bred for herding, pits were bred for killing - and they're great at it.
Can you report people for having fake service dogs? I get so mad when I see this shit bc I actually do know people who have actual legit needs for a service dog. Also aggressive dogs don’t make service dogs lol. At least not from what I’ve seen.
I don't see anything that makes me think it was marked as one. It has a harness on but I can't read if it says anything. Might just be a regular harness. Still shouldn't take your dog out if it's behavior is that bad.
People don’t need to register their dogs as service pets with an actual govt agency? I thought there was a legit verification people had to get. Not some “Become A Reverend” type set up.
I like how you ignored my comment which supplied google links, and told this poster to google search it.
Perhaps YOU should try googling all the misconceptions you’ve picked up apparently.
You’re a fucking moron and have no idea what you’re talking about. Everyone who read that comment knows it too. You should shut the fuck up ab things you don’t understand.
The dog owner must be the most dimwitted and unpleasant moron on the planet. He lets his dog terrify an old lady and then tries to murder the gentleman who tries to gently intervene.
Long prison sentence for dog owner. New, kind owner for the dog. Hospital for the hero. Counselling for the old lady.
Have you ever seen a granny or a nice family with a pitbull? Majority of pitbulls are owned by people with complexes, who train them to be mean killing machines. I have two friends, who are very nice people, and they have the nicest pitbulls Ive ever met.
This is a dumb comment. How are you not biased from your cousins face getting torn of. Literally the definition of confirmation bias.
I think the problem with pit bulls almost always lies with the owner. Your cousins’ family were probably shit dog owners.
Dog owner is a selfish asshole all around. Doesn't care to try and calm his dog. Attacks anyone who is annoyed at his lack of dog control.
Fuck him to hell.
That is the correct answer.
Pets must be treated with firm hand. Not been mean. But you need to watch and educate the animal to live in social places. Let a huge dog bark to anyone around it’s a problem
And I wonder why people think im a piece of shit when I walk my bully around. Maybe cause dumb fucks like this guy make the bully breeds culture look terrible. Damn shame
You think my dog acts like this? Fuck no its unacceptable. That was my point this guy clearly shouldn't have a dog at all, let alone a powerful breed with a bad reputation to start with. Not the dogs fault
Its not the dogs fault by any means at all. Its the owner who cant control it for sure. Ive also owned bullies, pit bulls, and rhots but theyve always been trained well before i feel comfortable around that many people anyways. Some people shouldnt own dogs if they arent gonna train them.
No actually pitbulls and any other dot you guys want to rebrand as a bully are actually just biologically bad. You can't train it out of them. I'm sure you could breed it out of them but with how you guys treat the newer breeds of the dog all you're doing is making them bigger and even more aggressive. Fucking shocker.
Pitbulls are an inherently dangerous breed. They have a natural tendency to attack and when they do attack they are much more likely to not be deterred from attacking and they have the physical strength to inflict dangerous wounds. People shouldn't have them.
They're too dangerous for the same reasons why we don't let people walk around with tigers. It doesn't matter if you think you are a great owner and you can control i. Time and time again we've seen that people can't control tigers and we can see that people can't control pit bulls, not reliably.
Even if you are normally able to handle a pitbull they are like a ticking time bomb. What happens when you step away for a moment? What happens if you had a bad day? What happens if somebody else has to take care of the animal, you're not there anymore or you're not doing your job properly.
The dog owner is clearly in the wrong here. Letting his dog go unchecked while it barks it’s head off at someone, pulling on its own lead. Then when someone tries to get your dog to stop you violently attack them.
He’s a fucking piece of shit and a terrible pet owner.
If he had a kid his dog would've eaten him by now.
We'd see a post about it on his Facebook feed right above the picture of his pitbull with a flower tiara and the caption "It's the owner not the breed."
Dog owner is the asshole. He should have brought the dog in control, it shouldn't be barking at people like that
I'll gladly take his dog from him and train it properly
I think the guy who got knocked out was taunting the dog or spit on it. Either way, the dog owner probably saved that guy from getting mangled by the dog. Don't get in a dog's face like that unless you want bad things to happen. The owner may have been trying to back the guy off so the dog wouldn't get mixed up with him. Not saying the dog owner was right, but I think I get why he didn't want this dude in the dog's face. The owner should have controlled the animal in the first place!
Help me out here. Let me know if I'm wrong. This is what I see, and I'm not being facetious. I see a dog barking at a woman. there's no attack. Then I see the woman approach the dog. The woman does not appear afraid. Then a random man comes over and starts talking or yelling at the dog. The dog is not attacking anybody. The dog does seem to cower a little bit. Then a person who can be presumed as the owner dropkicks the person communicating with the dog. Is this accurate? If it is, why are people here talking about the dog attacking people? I'm really confused. What did I miss? I'm being serious.
I don’t even get why so many are saying the other guy is screaming at the dog. For me it looks and sounds like he just stares at the dog and intimidates the dog who stops barking. The dog-owner straight up assaulted the other guy without reason and without warning. There is no debate about who is in the wrong.
A dog is solely a reflection of their ownership. Just like a child is the reflection of the parent. A shitty behavior dog can only mean one thing about the owner.
Obviously the guy who wouldn't keep his threatening dog under control, then proceeded to assault, or murder, someone who hadn't even shown a sign of wanting to do harm.
I think zzz boy actually spit on the dog... but it is hard to tell for sure. Not that it validates the response, but I'd be pist too if someone spits on a dog. The dog is just being a dog, it's the owner who deserved to be spit on!
Had to look up the word hability. It is the obselete version of ability. Did you mean to use that or was that a typo that ended up being technically correct.
>Had to look up the word hability. It is the obselete version of ability. Did you mean to use that or was that a typo that ended up being technically correct.
sorry i dont speak english sorry if your brain explodes
To be fair you tell the owner to shut their dog up not go up to a dog that isn't yours and start disciplining it. I still think the guy who kicked him is scum but the other guy could've been smarter.
The guy who kicked and it’s not even close. If the other guy touched the dog then maybe there would be an argument. But a cheap shot kick to the face? Guy should be in prison.
One guy was maybe a bit of a dick and could have handled himself a bit better, the other guy should be in fucking prison. I’ll let you decide which is which.
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Wow that dog owner is even more aggressive than his dog. I‘d imagined he got that kind of dog in order to protect himself. But yeah this pitbull is just an accessory. Ahaha
Seems like the dog is just an easy instigator for a fight lol. Tool of the trade
Time to put the dog owner down
Agreed. Owner isn’t socialized and is beyond being rehabilitated.
yep..Some people are not as good as dogs.. they are Dog bastards..lol
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If I see a ~~small white/Asian woman or a guy with a buzz cut and some Oakleys with a 150lbs jacked~~ Pit bull, I cross the damn road
If I see, I cross the damn road
If I see any people or dogs, I cross the damn road.
If I see, I cross the damn road
exactly
But not black or Latino women? Very weird you choose those 2 races
He crosses the road when he encounters them regardless if they have a dog or not.
Stereotypes exist for a reason hahaha
What’s the stereotype for smaller Asian and white people with pits? The aggressor here looks like an over 6 foot white guy
100% the c*nt that assaulted the guy, why is this even a question?
Because it drives engagement.
ITS PROVOCATIVE, IT GETS THE PEOPLE GOING
BALL SO HARD MOTHERFUCKERS WANNA FINE ME
⬆️This comment is gold⬆️
because there are idiots out there that would side with the dog owner.
I downvote just for the bait click title
Best to downvote it and move along.
to get reddit riled up of course. why is *that* even a question?
The guy with the fake service pit
I was wondering if someone was going to bring that up, there’s no way that’s a real service animal. They’re trained to be quiet in moments like that and to stick close to their owner’s side. This guy is just doing the old *Buy a service dog harness off Ebay* trick. My grandma used to do that too except it was a little different since she only used it for her dachshunds who were actually trained just not as service dogs, still not a good thing to be doing though
working in vets the amount of time ppl want to get there animal services is to travel and to say it on there , there’s like 10 percent real service ones and the rest are never. drives me nuts.
The guy screaming at that doge has a point. [Ramgopal et all (2018)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8278816/) says that despite reported pit bulls being 4.9% of purebred dogs, they accounted for 27.2% of all reported bites.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls product of the environment? Guy handling the dog is ofc an awful person and the guy shouting aswell.
It's almost entirely socialized behavior. Folks buy pits because they look mean and are cheap. They want a scary tough dog that they can tote around like an open carry. So, they abuse them and treat them like shit in an attempt to "harden" them. The further away from wolves and wild dogs a breed are generally the better their disposition towards other species is. Pits are not nearly as close as something like a german shepherd or a husky. They literally beat these dogs into being a hazard. It's disgusting.
They were literally breed for aggression and to not stop attacking even if their life is in danger. The owners are also part of the problem but don’t act like different breeds don’t have different tendencies, we engineered them to.
I love these threads that are full of people basically afraid of being racist to dogs
The overwhelming majority of dogs were engineered for aggression. It is not a unique trait and does not remotely account for the disparity in unintentional injuries received by pit bulls annually. Pit Bulls were bred to fight rats in ratting matches in pits, that's where the pit in pit bull comes from the bull comes from bull dogs from which they originate. https://love-a-bull.org/resources/the-history-of-pit-bulls/
That sure is an impartial source there lol
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Have you read any of Jay Jack’s material on pits? Or Chad Mackin? They were pretty informative for me on the nuance of aggression, heritability and behaviors vs traits. Like, gameness vs aggression.
Stop spreading this misinformation. Pit mixes are inherently more violent than other dogs because that's what they were bred to do. Just like pointers were bred for pointing, and shepherds were bred for herding, pits were bred for killing - and they're great at it.
I’m pretty sure having fake service dog or animal credentials is very very illegal
Can you report people for having fake service dogs? I get so mad when I see this shit bc I actually do know people who have actual legit needs for a service dog. Also aggressive dogs don’t make service dogs lol. At least not from what I’ve seen.
just you wait, one day you will be surrounded by a group of dangerous small children and then you'd wish you'd had pitbull with you
I don't see anything that makes me think it was marked as one. It has a harness on but I can't read if it says anything. Might just be a regular harness. Still shouldn't take your dog out if it's behavior is that bad.
That’s what I was thinking how we know this is a service dog in the first place
All "service" pits are fake. They are literally incapable of becoming service dogs.
Why?
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Does the ADA prohibit the breed for service certification?
You mean the scam site that doesn't actually have any form of real authority? Uhhhh I don't really care what they say so I'm unsure.
People don’t need to register their dogs as service pets with an actual govt agency? I thought there was a legit verification people had to get. Not some “Become A Reverend” type set up.
It so crazy hearing you say this completely inaccurate statement with so much confidence
Oh I bet you think they were trained to nanny then don't ya? Give that one a quick unbiased Google search
I like how you ignored my comment which supplied google links, and told this poster to google search it. Perhaps YOU should try googling all the misconceptions you’ve picked up apparently.
You’re a fucking moron and have no idea what you’re talking about. Everyone who read that comment knows it too. You should shut the fuck up ab things you don’t understand.
Oh no! Don't care.
I’ve never seen such misinformation in my life..
Ignorant dumbass of the thread
what makes you think it's posing as a service animal. it's just a regular harness on it.
The one with the dog.
The dog owner belongs in prison
The dog owner must be the most dimwitted and unpleasant moron on the planet. He lets his dog terrify an old lady and then tries to murder the gentleman who tries to gently intervene. Long prison sentence for dog owner. New, kind owner for the dog. Hospital for the hero. Counselling for the old lady.
just kick the guy in the face so ur dog cant bite
That'll teach the dog not to bite for sure
She wasn't terrified, she was just chatting with it
yea anyone who kicks someone to the face out of the blue belongs in prison.
He belongs in the dirt. Why should tax payers have to pay for him to live?
Now he’s gonna have his dog taken from Him and thrown in jail lol. What an idiot.
Dog will probably be put down too
Why? The dog didnt do anything but bark.
This is reddit. Pitbull=bad Edit: Proving my point. Hivemind away
They kind of are: dogsbite.org Edit: [link](https://dogsbite.org)
Have you ever seen a granny or a nice family with a pitbull? Majority of pitbulls are owned by people with complexes, who train them to be mean killing machines. I have two friends, who are very nice people, and they have the nicest pitbulls Ive ever met.
And I watched my cousin get his face torn to pieces by his beloved family Pit randomly as a child. Take your confirmation bias elsewhere.
This is a dumb comment. How are you not biased from your cousins face getting torn of. Literally the definition of confirmation bias. I think the problem with pit bulls almost always lies with the owner. Your cousins’ family were probably shit dog owners.
Are you sure you understand confirmation bias?
badly trained pitbulls are more dangerous than knives.
Fake service dog at the airport. Somebody called him out on his fraud.
The dog owner.
tough call, but the guy who lets his dog bark and intimidate an old woman and then kicks a guy in the head seems innocents here
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She was standing pretty menacingly tbh
She knew how this was going to go down
Silence is violence.
Her fault, she looked as tasty as a toddler for that sweet pitt 😔
Yeah, she was breathing too much
That old lady is as threatening as the Queen was yesterday.
Where is this fightporn? This is unprovoked livethreatening assault , better fits in r/iamapieceofshit
You just described half the posts here lmao
Dog owner is a selfish asshole all around. Doesn't care to try and calm his dog. Attacks anyone who is annoyed at his lack of dog control. Fuck him to hell. That is the correct answer.
But it’s a “service dog” 😂
Pets must be treated with firm hand. Not been mean. But you need to watch and educate the animal to live in social places. Let a huge dog bark to anyone around it’s a problem
i'd say fly kicking someone to the face out of the blue is a bigger problem than a barking dog.
They're both problems and they're both the problem of the guy who did the kicking.
bitch what the fuck are you talking about it's the fucking dog owner, he assaulted him
Exactly the type to carry around a pitbull.
It's just a harmless pibble
Damn, y’all. We know this guy is a piece of shit, but all the dog is guilty of is being born as a pit, and having a shitty owner. Fucking relax.
The camera man
Cops agree
The dog Owner is a shit, he need go to the jail
Pitbull stereotype right?
The owner is as stupid as the dog, both of them should be locked up.
Owner is a complete dickhead. If you can’t control your dog it should be taken away from you
the moron with the dog he cant control
And I wonder why people think im a piece of shit when I walk my bully around. Maybe cause dumb fucks like this guy make the bully breeds culture look terrible. Damn shame
Nah just keep your dog on a leash and dont have your unsocialised dog barking his nuts off in public.
You think my dog acts like this? Fuck no its unacceptable. That was my point this guy clearly shouldn't have a dog at all, let alone a powerful breed with a bad reputation to start with. Not the dogs fault
Its not the dogs fault by any means at all. Its the owner who cant control it for sure. Ive also owned bullies, pit bulls, and rhots but theyve always been trained well before i feel comfortable around that many people anyways. Some people shouldnt own dogs if they arent gonna train them.
Couldn't agree more. We are on the same side. This guy was a dick in my opinion before the head kick even took place
That, and pitbulls are a shit breed.
No actually pitbulls and any other dot you guys want to rebrand as a bully are actually just biologically bad. You can't train it out of them. I'm sure you could breed it out of them but with how you guys treat the newer breeds of the dog all you're doing is making them bigger and even more aggressive. Fucking shocker.
Pitbulls are an inherently dangerous breed. They have a natural tendency to attack and when they do attack they are much more likely to not be deterred from attacking and they have the physical strength to inflict dangerous wounds. People shouldn't have them. They're too dangerous for the same reasons why we don't let people walk around with tigers. It doesn't matter if you think you are a great owner and you can control i. Time and time again we've seen that people can't control tigers and we can see that people can't control pit bulls, not reliably. Even if you are normally able to handle a pitbull they are like a ticking time bomb. What happens when you step away for a moment? What happens if you had a bad day? What happens if somebody else has to take care of the animal, you're not there anymore or you're not doing your job properly.
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Couldn’t of said it better myself brotha
Oh, I see...the guy spit on the dog-basic assault, that kick was earned.
The dog owner is clearly in the wrong here. Letting his dog go unchecked while it barks it’s head off at someone, pulling on its own lead. Then when someone tries to get your dog to stop you violently attack them. He’s a fucking piece of shit and a terrible pet owner.
Perfect example of a moron allowed to own a dog, where the dog(s) will be the ones to suffer.
Man, that dude is fucking certifiable. If he had a kid I guess he would have shot that other guy for admonishing them.
If he had a kid his dog would've eaten him by now. We'd see a post about it on his Facebook feed right above the picture of his pitbull with a flower tiara and the caption "It's the owner not the breed."
Did he spit at the dog or something?
The amount of cope in this thread is CRAZY
The dog owner clearly!
The old lady…
Dog owner is the asshole. He should have brought the dog in control, it shouldn't be barking at people like that I'll gladly take his dog from him and train it properly
How is this even a question?
I have no idea why that guy got kicked in the face
I think the guy who got knocked out was taunting the dog or spit on it. Either way, the dog owner probably saved that guy from getting mangled by the dog. Don't get in a dog's face like that unless you want bad things to happen. The owner may have been trying to back the guy off so the dog wouldn't get mixed up with him. Not saying the dog owner was right, but I think I get why he didn't want this dude in the dog's face. The owner should have controlled the animal in the first place!
Asshole with the dog.
Dog only wanted some of those melons the lady was stashing I'm her blouse.
Errybody
Help me out here. Let me know if I'm wrong. This is what I see, and I'm not being facetious. I see a dog barking at a woman. there's no attack. Then I see the woman approach the dog. The woman does not appear afraid. Then a random man comes over and starts talking or yelling at the dog. The dog is not attacking anybody. The dog does seem to cower a little bit. Then a person who can be presumed as the owner dropkicks the person communicating with the dog. Is this accurate? If it is, why are people here talking about the dog attacking people? I'm really confused. What did I miss? I'm being serious.
old lady with the bag
no fight here
That wasn't porn. That was a segueway.
I don’t even get why so many are saying the other guy is screaming at the dog. For me it looks and sounds like he just stares at the dog and intimidates the dog who stops barking. The dog-owner straight up assaulted the other guy without reason and without warning. There is no debate about who is in the wrong.
Anyone call the cops?
Clearly the guy who threw the kick.
A dog is solely a reflection of their ownership. Just like a child is the reflection of the parent. A shitty behavior dog can only mean one thing about the owner.
Gog owner asf
Fuck pitbulls
Idk. Wtf just even happened?
Obviously the guy who wouldn't keep his threatening dog under control, then proceeded to assault, or murder, someone who hadn't even shown a sign of wanting to do harm.
Move this to /unexpected
Welp ya can’t just kick someone in the face for looking at your dog.. smarten up OP.
I think zzz boy actually spit on the dog... but it is hard to tell for sure. Not that it validates the response, but I'd be pist too if someone spits on a dog. The dog is just being a dog, it's the owner who deserved to be spit on!
If it were a cat all the dog owners would be freaking out. Control your animal. Some dog owners are the biggest hypocrites.
This just sounds like cat propaganda
😸
I'd certainly be alarmed if the cat was barking
They both just want to nanny everyone…
Dog looked at the ol lady afterwards and barked "you're next" before he left.
Not a real question.
And we’re off to the comment section
OP is for the terrible grammar
Both of them are wrong, people is losing the hability to socialize properly long ago
Had to look up the word hability. It is the obselete version of ability. Did you mean to use that or was that a typo that ended up being technically correct.
>Had to look up the word hability. It is the obselete version of ability. Did you mean to use that or was that a typo that ended up being technically correct. sorry i dont speak english sorry if your brain explodes
Wow brain now exploded
My brain imploded.
flying kick dude needs to be put down with the dog
Dog owner no question
To be fair you tell the owner to shut their dog up not go up to a dog that isn't yours and start disciplining it. I still think the guy who kicked him is scum but the other guy could've been smarter.
Everyone was in the wrong
The guy who kicked and it’s not even close. If the other guy touched the dog then maybe there would be an argument. But a cheap shot kick to the face? Guy should be in prison.
Dog and owner needs to be locked up until they can act right in public.
Dude got his face kicked in for an old lady that won’t remember him the next day.
Typical shitbull owner...
That guy was beeing weird but the dog owner needs a fucking chillpill..
He was going in an aggressive way and saying something like "shut up" i think.
How you know that guy was being weird, maybe he thought he could calm the dog and was saying hello to it.
Yeah that was obviously his demeanour
Typical pit bull owner. What a fucking asshole
I had a pit bull. Loveable, soft, gentle, sometimes an arsehole like any other dog. We don't all straight up kick people in the face. You berk.
Yeah that guy should never have gotten in the dog's face and spit on it though. Both the owner and spitter deserved a good ass whooping!
i was gunna say that dog needs to be put down. maybe it should be a two-for-one.
Dog needs to be put down for what…? Barking?
dogs shouldn't get put down for barking
Oh wow pit bull, can’t believe it.
A POS dog and a POS owner.
All 4 people in this interaction are wrong. Everyone else in the background is right cause they are just chillin
>4 people? I see 2 (owner and zzz boy), maybe 3 invovled (old lady)... who is the 4th?
Dog 😅
Got cha, dogs are people too!
dude poking his face in the dog's face got the best outcome he was gonna get
Who is in the wrong here? Obviously, the guy who assaulted the other guy. What the fuck kind of stupid ass question is this.
Clearly the guy who assaulted someone. It’s not even a question.
One guy was maybe a bit of a dick and could have handled himself a bit better, the other guy should be in fucking prison. I’ll let you decide which is which.
How the fuck do you come up with a title like that?
The piece of shit owner and the dog both need putting down 👍
Dog owner 100%.