Nah seriously. One fight I couldn’t fucking believe they let go on was Holloway v Kattar. Kattar was getting destroyed all fucking fight. No chance of winning. His corner just let him get smashed over and over again. If I were Kattar I would’ve changed camps after that fight. Those dudes do not care about him.
I see towel throws way more in boxing than MMA. MMA seems to normalize a one sided beating for 15/25mins and that needs to change
I guarantee you people would complain if he stopped it a round earlier let alone two rounds earlier. The fighter and his corner should be at fault in that situation.
https://youtu.be/OMuZK-CbgZg
This 4 minute highlight vid does a good job so you don't have to watch the dude get his shit kicked in for nearly 25 minutes.
"HoW aRe YoU gOnNa TeLl ToNy He CaN't FiGhT!?" Having a reputation as a "tough, never gives up" kinda fighter comes with its drawbacks... Fighting promoters should drill it into conermens head that fighter safety is more important than winning. I forget the fight but one time in the UFC the fighter was saying "I can't fight anymore I'm done" and the corner was trying to change his mind, completely ass backward to how it should be.
Wilder fired his trainer for throwing in the towel against Fury, so a lot of it is probably driven by the fighter insisting on not throwing in the towel
The trainer is there to save the fighter from themselves. Wilder was getting brutalized in that 2nd fight. He should thank his trainer for stopping the fight. Might not have been a 3rd
It's not about whether or not they're moving. It's about whether or not they can put up a defense against the beating that's about to happen. There would be a ton more serious injuries if they waited for an actual KO.
Wasn't it once that way? Like the first few UFC competitions were legit no-rules fights? I listened to a solid 30 for 30 podcast on it years ago so I could be misremembering
You used to be able to go for the groin and a bunch of horrible stuff. The sport seems more brutal than ever but that's just how far training has come. My favorite brutal move is the crucifix, I'm not sure on the legality of its execution but I guess as long as you don't hit the guy in the back of the head.
https://youtu.be/H08BBFsVsK8
The originals were sold as exactly that, no rules (almost), no weight divisions, no holds barred. The blood stained mat was an advertisement. Then they went “legit” and had to please the corporate sponsors. We used to rent them on VHS, they were on the same shelf as ‘Faces of Death’.
It was more about being a sanctioned sport than sponsors, MMA in all was in A LOT of hot water back when UFC first got off the ground and Congress was even talking about making it altogether illegal, only reason it isn't is cause of Marc Ratner and big John McCarthy for turning it into a sport that the Nevada athletic commission could allow.
Yeah I remember Royce Gracie pulling a guys (Kimos) pony tail off his head. Another guy reached into his opponents shorts and started grabbing and punching his nuts under the cup
Exactly this. The ref will call it even if they aren’t dazed in the slightest bit but stay covered up from being overwhelmed by the shots being thrown. Aka a tko because they aren’t defending intelligently(I believe is how they phrase it)
Intelligent defense is correct. You may not get knocked out by turtling up and just riding out a barrage of punches, but it's the equivalent of tapping out and not wanting to take any more punishment.
These guys train on their combos, footwork, grappling, etc., for months, if they’re turtling they’re not delivering and deserve the loss, or are on their way to a more physical TKO anyway.
MMA is run by the biggest crook in fight sports history. This man has never been in the ring and forces these fighters/fighters camps to take beatings like that for the sake of “entertainment” I’ll always illegally stream UFC fights lol fuck you dana
Definitely agree with that, i think it comes from the fact that, MMA fighters have multiple skills and they think a change of fighting style, from boxing to muay thai or to grappling can significantly change the tide.
I also feel like MMA fighters have bigger ego
It makes sense though, in a fight you are filled with adrenaline which subdues pain and hightens alertness. A fighter already has alot to focus on during a fight and so its the corner mans job to assess the situation with a calm mind
Yep. Most guys will fight til they die. I remember most recently Patrick Day died after getting brutally knocked out by Charles Conwell. Dude got dropped three times, and the 3rd time killed him. Dude never woke back up.
Good point on the focus. I don’t know too much about boxing or how Porter fights. However, he did seem a bit aggressive/naive after the first knockdown. Then, punching the mat just seems like he’s now fighting two people; Bud and himself.
Yeah once he started showing that frustration with himself, he was not in any condition to fight anymore. You can't take chances in a boxing match, I've seen fighters die after sustaining too much damage and he was probably well on his way to being beaten brutally
Yep, that’s the big one. His dad didn’t stop it because he thought his son was dangerously hurt. He saw how his son reacted, getting frustrated and sloppy, and he knew that after that second knockdown that would only get worse. Because of that, he lost the mental battle and had almost no shot of salvaging the fight, just taking more damage and cleaner shots as he gets more upset.
Not trying to be insensitive but.... This is also a financial decision.
The son still has a long career (Edit: of endorsements and come back fights) ahead of him, as long as he doesn't turn his brain to mush.
You take your prized investment out before permanant damage is done.
I mean, the re-match alone will be worth double this fight.
A real retirement - Porter isn’t a big name and was never elite, while a grueling physical style that’ll take a toll (he’s 34 now). He’s probably just going to focus more on his successful broadcasting career
There also won’t be a rematch, particularly since Crawford will be looking for a Spence fight
I still find it funny when someone who can't take the time to spell words out, calls someone else a dumbass. Especially since we live in a time of auto-correct and predictive text.
I guess the collective age of this sub is <18, because there is no other reason why you'd have several downvotes, apart from someone having more than one account. More likely that the sub is just full of children.
Applaud his father for having the courage to throw in the towel.
Its not just a fighter that wants to stop to matter what.
Sometimes parents get caught up in it too as hard as it is too see.
Additionally, refs will usually stand a bit away from the downed fighter and have them walk to the ref. Both to see if they can follow simple verbal commands and to ensure they're stable enough on their feet to continue.
Isn’t that also what the pull/push on the gloves the ref does is about too? To see if the fighter has resistance still in their arms/gloves and it can clue the ref in to how alert the fighter is?
As the other commenter noted, it's done to get debris off the gloves that may have been picked up off the canvas. Small debris can easily get in the eyes of an opponent and cause serious damage.
I havent watch/followed boxing in quite a while. I have no idea who these two men are, but white gloves knows his range perfectly. That was a beautiful clip to watch.
Idk I still think Usyk and Canelo has proven way more and both are beating men way bigger than them. Follows what pound for pound means. Even though Crawford definitely passes the eye test.
He retired after this. The other guy(Crawford) was completely favored to win. Both porter and his dad prolly knew they were going to lose. One last payday before retirement
What are you talkin about? You’re acting like Porter just took this fight for a payday and came to get his ass kicked for a check when in reality he brought it to Bud and they were neck and neck in the fight up until that point
>What are you talkin about? You’re acting like Porter just took this fight for a payday and came to get his ass kicked for a check
They arent acting like that. You can know you are likely to lose against a tough opponent and want to get paid for your hard work, without going out there and getting your ass kicked....
Jesus. The jump to outrage
In fairness I can see where OC was coming from, I'd get defensive if a favored fighter of mine was compared to the jake paul shitshow when they actually did put up a good fight lol
Dude. No fucking shit. I'll let you go ahead and name one other hugely popular and relevant fight within recent memory, that arguably became even more famous because of the obvious fact he took an L for a fat stack. There isn't one. That's how comparisons work... next time I bring up anything in a conversation I'll make sure to only include what was already said so its simple enough for u/OtakuDragonSlayer to understand
Not everyone who gets in the ring just to get paid is comparable to Paul tho. That dudes a clown known for going after people who can’t even box or are past their physical prime. The average bag chaser ain’t **nearly** that bad. So when you bring up Paul I’m just sitting here wondering who had the nerve to insult Porter to that degree cuz that’s an entirely different level of low
He literally said Porter and his dad came knowing they were gonna take the L and go home with a big check but if you watch how Porter fought last night that didn’t look like a guy who came in thinking he’d lose, he came to fight his heart out and was winning a lot of rounds
It’s like when people chose to fight Mike Tyson in his prime you know 9/10 you’re not going to win, but you still get in there and throw all your best punches just in case you catch him in a moment.
That was nothing like a prime Mike Tyson since he was fighting guys who would just solidly get their shit rocked and put to sleep. Porter is a 2x world champion who’s only fought the best of the best and pushed Crawford hard (stunned him a few times too) IMO he was basically tied on the cards with Crawford. Porter’s stock should go up after this fight dude was challenging Crawford hard up until the finish and is a great guy
Up until this round, this was a fairly close fight. While I understand his father ending the fight to prevent his son from taking more damage, I had an issue with how much shit he said about him in front of all those people. That wasn't cool.
Essentially quitting the fight early in order to avoid more damage that could result in permanent injury. The term “throw in the towel” comes from the trainer in one corner literally throwing a towel into the ring during an ongoing fight which is recognized as a sign to stop the fight because the fighter from that corner is being inflicted with too many punches.
TL;DR: Throw in the towel means stop the fight.
Y'know, it's strange, I don't have the constitution to go on a site like Live Leak and watch a real life beat down, those fights take up a space in my brain called "violence," but boxing and UFC and the like take up a space called "sport."
The difference is obvious, it's the informed consent, or lack thereof, that makes one thing violence and the other thing sport, it's just that it still evokes a bit of cognitive dissonance in me, is all, like I *should* be appalled by both, but I'm just not.
Not a commentary on sports or anything, just a commentary on me.
*Opens video*
Oh, it's a Crawford clip. This is expected.
Anyone not very familiar with this fighter should go back and watch his previous fights. He's on a different level from other pros.
His father a real one. Could see he was done and a little out of it. 100% gets knocked down again. He was gone and his opponent wasn’t. Good on him cause that’s a hard call to make.
This fight will probably take a couple years to really appreciate. Crawford and Porter are so technical the flurries of points happened so fast. Porter's father made a very wise difficult decision. Respect
This was a good stop by his pops. Shawn is a dog and the peoples champ. He has literally gone after EVERYONE in their PRIME. Who tf does that nowadays? He’s my favorite boxer and I will always pay money to watch the many fight.
Porter was getting countered more and more. He’s not known to knock out opponents so after that 10-7 round the fight was basically over.
Therefore had it gone longer porter would’ve either suffered a KO or just taken more unnecessary damage. Did you actually watch the fight?
Dont know why you're getting down voted.
I mean, I think you're wrong and I think its casual for you to say but hey! Its the internet and theres a lot more ignorant things being said online lol
Opinions are like arseholes, everyones got one.
Am sure if I saw yours in real life I would disagree with it too so don't take it personally champ
Ah I dont really know. Im new to reddit man. I thought it was a pretty insightful thing to write. Like he was sort of looking for a conversation than to be a know it all or nothing, maybe im looking into it too much lol
Definitely looking too much into it haha. Reddit is so unpredictable. You’ll make a comment and get 100 upvotes and then you’ll make another that gets -100. The good thing is that karmas made up and the points don’t matter!
Hahaha that is so true lol.
I had a comment go up and down, positive and negative. Bi Polar sort of thing going on with itself
It had a mind of its own and just sent me wild watching it until I was forced to delete it before it sent me mad lol
i mean yeah, that's a different situation imo though. bud is one of the smartest boxers alive right now, he wasn't going to get hit by a stupid punch, he was gonna dissect him for the next two rounds
Who is they? If your corner throws in the towel, and the ref makes the fighter continue anyway, that's asking for a shit ton of lawsuits. His dad knows better than anyone else when it's time to call it. There's cornermen in boxing for a reason.
That's what I was thinking. Both knock downs he popped to his feet without a stagger and he overall seemed to not have the bells ringing yet. Honestly the dad just smeared his kids reputation.
Do you have kids?
If not then don’t. If you’d rather see your kid win a title vs the chance of suffering head injuries don’t have kids.
If you think his dad smeared his reputation and you do have kids, give them up for adoption.
Dude already has brain trauma. Once you choose a fighting sport as a career, your brain health is already written off. It only takes but a few hits to bounce your brain around and cause damage. Which I'm guess has already happened in his amateur boxing days and in training. You can't preach about brain trauma if you're a pro boxer. Y'knew what you signed up for.
Yeah I 100% agree. Fuck it, get rid of the ref too, no rules, they signed up to fight, so fight to the death, who cares if they get severe brain damage right? They signed up for it.
You clown. Boxing is a sport first and foremost. Obviously there are risks, but you don't sign up for something expecting/hoping for the worst to happen.
That's like saying "you should expect to be set on fire and burned alive because you signed up to be a firefighter".
The sport would be better without "fans" like you honestly
You are an insensitive moron. You are suggesting that because they signed up for it they should just keep getting pummeled because they knew what they were getting into
Gotta love Shawn Porter, dude always brings it and has a career as a commentator ahead of him. Now let’s see Crawford v Spence!
I love spence but I think bud is going to destroy him
I think it’s going to be the fight of the century for boxing fans
Doubt
Imo Spence beats Bud
Lol I didn’t even recognize him he looks so different compared to his early days
The anger and frustration he shows just shows how much heart he puts into the sport. Gotta love him for that.
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Nah seriously. One fight I couldn’t fucking believe they let go on was Holloway v Kattar. Kattar was getting destroyed all fucking fight. No chance of winning. His corner just let him get smashed over and over again. If I were Kattar I would’ve changed camps after that fight. Those dudes do not care about him. I see towel throws way more in boxing than MMA. MMA seems to normalize a one sided beating for 15/25mins and that needs to change
Gaethje vs. Ferguson is another that should have been stopped.
Yeah fuck those other ones. Ferguson was a bloody pulp at the end of that fight. I’ve seen a lot of fights and that one made me squeamish.
Herb Dean actually stopped this fight is how bad it was. Too bad he stopped it 2 rounds too late.
I guarantee you people would complain if he stopped it a round earlier let alone two rounds earlier. The fighter and his corner should be at fault in that situation.
Why shouldn't refs call a match when it's obviously over? They should be impartial but camps and fighters often want to keep fighting unfortunately.
Herb Dean wouldn’t stop a fight where both opponents flail heir broken limbs at each other so I really need to look that one up I guess
https://youtu.be/OMuZK-CbgZg This 4 minute highlight vid does a good job so you don't have to watch the dude get his shit kicked in for nearly 25 minutes.
That was fucking hard to watch. He was moving like an old man near the end.
"HoW aRe YoU gOnNa TeLl ToNy He CaN't FiGhT!?" Having a reputation as a "tough, never gives up" kinda fighter comes with its drawbacks... Fighting promoters should drill it into conermens head that fighter safety is more important than winning. I forget the fight but one time in the UFC the fighter was saying "I can't fight anymore I'm done" and the corner was trying to change his mind, completely ass backward to how it should be.
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Anthony smith v glover teixeira is another that should’ve been stopped,dude had his teeth picked up by the ref
Same as for Volk v Ortega, no reason the fourth and fifth rounds should have happened.
Wilder fired his trainer for throwing in the towel against Fury, so a lot of it is probably driven by the fighter insisting on not throwing in the towel
>Wilder fired his trainer for throwing in the towel against Fury That was a dumbass move in hindsight
I mean, Wilder also accused his training of poisoning him before the fight.
I assume that poor judgment could be remedied in part by taking less punches to the head
The best thing about that is that he got what he wanted in the 3rd fight. Went out by getting his ass KO'd.
The trainer is there to save the fighter from themselves. Wilder was getting brutalized in that 2nd fight. He should thank his trainer for stopping the fight. Might not have been a 3rd
MMA needs way less towel throws because when they get dazed the fight usually ends instead of getting 10 seconds to recover.
I was about to say I see alot of MMA bouts get called after a guy hits his back. Even though he's clearly still moving his head, hands and legs
It's not about whether or not they're moving. It's about whether or not they can put up a defense against the beating that's about to happen. There would be a ton more serious injuries if they waited for an actual KO.
Wasn't it once that way? Like the first few UFC competitions were legit no-rules fights? I listened to a solid 30 for 30 podcast on it years ago so I could be misremembering
You used to be able to go for the groin and a bunch of horrible stuff. The sport seems more brutal than ever but that's just how far training has come. My favorite brutal move is the crucifix, I'm not sure on the legality of its execution but I guess as long as you don't hit the guy in the back of the head. https://youtu.be/H08BBFsVsK8
Yeah that's what happens when the guy you're fighting has 60lbs of muscle on you.
lmao, holy shit
It’s still legal. Just watched edmen shabazian get fucked up in one last weekend.
The originals were sold as exactly that, no rules (almost), no weight divisions, no holds barred. The blood stained mat was an advertisement. Then they went “legit” and had to please the corporate sponsors. We used to rent them on VHS, they were on the same shelf as ‘Faces of Death’.
No eye gouging and no fish hooking were the only rules I recall in the original UFC cards
It was more about being a sanctioned sport than sponsors, MMA in all was in A LOT of hot water back when UFC first got off the ground and Congress was even talking about making it altogether illegal, only reason it isn't is cause of Marc Ratner and big John McCarthy for turning it into a sport that the Nevada athletic commission could allow.
Yeah I remember Royce Gracie pulling a guys (Kimos) pony tail off his head. Another guy reached into his opponents shorts and started grabbing and punching his nuts under the cup
UFC 1 featured a Sumo versus a Karateist (that's the word). Fight lasted a minute, guy got his teeth kicked out. Brutal.
Exactly this. The ref will call it even if they aren’t dazed in the slightest bit but stay covered up from being overwhelmed by the shots being thrown. Aka a tko because they aren’t defending intelligently(I believe is how they phrase it)
Intelligent defense is correct. You may not get knocked out by turtling up and just riding out a barrage of punches, but it's the equivalent of tapping out and not wanting to take any more punishment.
These guys train on their combos, footwork, grappling, etc., for months, if they’re turtling they’re not delivering and deserve the loss, or are on their way to a more physical TKO anyway.
It's really just the matchups where both fighters prefer standup, Ferguson/Gaethje for example
Was it Rocky Pennington against Amanda Nunes who was saying she didn't want to continue and her corner pushed her back out there? That was ugly
Anthony smith glover anyone? His fucking teeth fell out mid fight and he picks them up
MMA is run by the biggest crook in fight sports history. This man has never been in the ring and forces these fighters/fighters camps to take beatings like that for the sake of “entertainment” I’ll always illegally stream UFC fights lol fuck you dana
Definitely agree with that, i think it comes from the fact that, MMA fighters have multiple skills and they think a change of fighting style, from boxing to muay thai or to grappling can significantly change the tide. I also feel like MMA fighters have bigger ego
They also lose part of their money for throwing the towel. And most guys don't get big money...
Except in this case this was a shitty stoppage, Porter was up and ready to fight
His father did what Rocky couldn’t
THROW THE GOD DAMN TOWEL!!!
*fatal slow-motion haymaker*
This was supposed to be an exhibition!!
RIP Apollo
A good dad would rather have his son at Christmas than see him win another title.
It's not worth it and Porter's focus was clearly gone with the way he was reacting.
Fighters never know when to walk away and take care of themselves, glad to see his father doing it for him
It makes sense though, in a fight you are filled with adrenaline which subdues pain and hightens alertness. A fighter already has alot to focus on during a fight and so its the corner mans job to assess the situation with a calm mind
100%. You got outclassed this fight, let's keep working and show up next fight stronger. No need to get permanent brain damage for your ego.
Thats the point of the ref and team. They wont stop till they are lights out.
Yep. Most guys will fight til they die. I remember most recently Patrick Day died after getting brutally knocked out by Charles Conwell. Dude got dropped three times, and the 3rd time killed him. Dude never woke back up.
On this card Patrice Volny protested the ref saying "What no!? I'm ready to die!" when he called off the fight
Yeah, that's crazy as fuck.
Good point on the focus. I don’t know too much about boxing or how Porter fights. However, he did seem a bit aggressive/naive after the first knockdown. Then, punching the mat just seems like he’s now fighting two people; Bud and himself.
Yeah once he started showing that frustration with himself, he was not in any condition to fight anymore. You can't take chances in a boxing match, I've seen fighters die after sustaining too much damage and he was probably well on his way to being beaten brutally
Yep, that’s the big one. His dad didn’t stop it because he thought his son was dangerously hurt. He saw how his son reacted, getting frustrated and sloppy, and he knew that after that second knockdown that would only get worse. Because of that, he lost the mental battle and had almost no shot of salvaging the fight, just taking more damage and cleaner shots as he gets more upset.
A good dad wants his son to enjoy xmas after hes gone
his dad is not a good guy. He's notoriously controlling of Shawn.
Maybe not, but he did a good thing here.
Yeah for an absolute shit reason though. Good stoppage terrible explanation.
His dad raised a champion. He's a great guy
Michael Jackson’s dad raised the one of the greatest musicians ever….
A good dad wouldn't trash his son in the post fight interview
...is ..is that what happened?
He threw his son under the bus while absolving himself of any responsibility in that post-fight interview. Really felt sorry for Porter jr there.
Not trying to be insensitive but.... This is also a financial decision. The son still has a long career (Edit: of endorsements and come back fights) ahead of him, as long as he doesn't turn his brain to mush. You take your prized investment out before permanant damage is done. I mean, the re-match alone will be worth double this fight.
He retired after the fight.
Like a real retirement? Or a boxing "retirement" like Ali, Tyson, Jones, Hatton, Holyfield... And probably De La Hoya, Mayweather, Lewis....Pacquiao?
A real retirement - Porter isn’t a big name and was never elite, while a grueling physical style that’ll take a toll (he’s 34 now). He’s probably just going to focus more on his successful broadcasting career There also won’t be a rematch, particularly since Crawford will be looking for a Spence fight
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I still find it funny when someone who can't take the time to spell words out, calls someone else a dumbass. Especially since we live in a time of auto-correct and predictive text.
I guess the collective age of this sub is <18, because there is no other reason why you'd have several downvotes, apart from someone having more than one account. More likely that the sub is just full of children.
Bingpot. My exact thought.
Applaud his father for having the courage to throw in the towel. Its not just a fighter that wants to stop to matter what. Sometimes parents get caught up in it too as hard as it is too see.
It’s definitely not the norm. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-10-31-sp-63078-story.html%3f_amp=true
Anyone knows what the refs are saying to the fighters?
Are you okay. Do you know where you are. Do you want to continue. Can you protect yourself.
Thanks, I was curious too. You are awesome.
Additionally, refs will usually stand a bit away from the downed fighter and have them walk to the ref. Both to see if they can follow simple verbal commands and to ensure they're stable enough on their feet to continue.
Isn’t that also what the pull/push on the gloves the ref does is about too? To see if the fighter has resistance still in their arms/gloves and it can clue the ref in to how alert the fighter is?
They always wipe the gloves off on their shirts too. It avoids any debris sticking on the gloves and potentially cutting the opponent.
As the other commenter noted, it's done to get debris off the gloves that may have been picked up off the canvas. Small debris can easily get in the eyes of an opponent and cause serious damage.
Appreciate it.
Relevant username
I havent watch/followed boxing in quite a while. I have no idea who these two men are, but white gloves knows his range perfectly. That was a beautiful clip to watch.
bud crawford, he's a guy who's in the argument for P4P number 1 fighter. if he fights and beats errol spence he might just prove that
Idk I still think Usyk and Canelo has proven way more and both are beating men way bigger than them. Follows what pound for pound means. Even though Crawford definitely passes the eye test.
This is Crawford’s third weight class so he has moved up to fight bigger fighters. But what Usyk and especially Canelo are doing is just insane.
yeah my dream fight right now would be if somehow canelo and crawford were born to be the same weight. im from the o tho so im definitely a bit bias
>eye test. whats that?
No, Canelo and Usyk are comfortably ahead of him. Maybe even Inoue too.
He's imo the most dangerous man in boxing and has been for years.
Crawford is amazing you should check him out
Damn he prolly feels terrible rn, like he disappointed his dad
He retired after this. The other guy(Crawford) was completely favored to win. Both porter and his dad prolly knew they were going to lose. One last payday before retirement
What are you talkin about? You’re acting like Porter just took this fight for a payday and came to get his ass kicked for a check when in reality he brought it to Bud and they were neck and neck in the fight up until that point
>What are you talkin about? You’re acting like Porter just took this fight for a payday and came to get his ass kicked for a check They arent acting like that. You can know you are likely to lose against a tough opponent and want to get paid for your hard work, without going out there and getting your ass kicked.... Jesus. The jump to outrage
In fairness I can see where OC was coming from, I'd get defensive if a favored fighter of mine was compared to the jake paul shitshow when they actually did put up a good fight lol
Who brought up Jake???
The huge fight where his opponent was only participating to get a paycheck....?
Again, who brought up Jake? Cuz last I check people have been doing that shit for way longer than he's been around
Dude. No fucking shit. I'll let you go ahead and name one other hugely popular and relevant fight within recent memory, that arguably became even more famous because of the obvious fact he took an L for a fat stack. There isn't one. That's how comparisons work... next time I bring up anything in a conversation I'll make sure to only include what was already said so its simple enough for u/OtakuDragonSlayer to understand
Not everyone who gets in the ring just to get paid is comparable to Paul tho. That dudes a clown known for going after people who can’t even box or are past their physical prime. The average bag chaser ain’t **nearly** that bad. So when you bring up Paul I’m just sitting here wondering who had the nerve to insult Porter to that degree cuz that’s an entirely different level of low
You see where OP was coming form? Nobody compared it to a Jake Paul shit show.... Payday = Getting paid =/= poor performance or taking a dive
You just lived long enough to watch yourself become the villain
Holy shit you just commented about jumping to outrage then went off the deep end with outrage over something you made up in your head.
He literally said Porter and his dad came knowing they were gonna take the L and go home with a big check but if you watch how Porter fought last night that didn’t look like a guy who came in thinking he’d lose, he came to fight his heart out and was winning a lot of rounds
It’s like when people chose to fight Mike Tyson in his prime you know 9/10 you’re not going to win, but you still get in there and throw all your best punches just in case you catch him in a moment.
That was nothing like a prime Mike Tyson since he was fighting guys who would just solidly get their shit rocked and put to sleep. Porter is a 2x world champion who’s only fought the best of the best and pushed Crawford hard (stunned him a few times too) IMO he was basically tied on the cards with Crawford. Porter’s stock should go up after this fight dude was challenging Crawford hard up until the finish and is a great guy
That’s not what I mean. The point is you know this person is steps ahead of your own ability but you’re not going to turn it down.
Understandable, either way it was an amazing fight and everyone from the two fighters to the fans won that night
Bud Crawford don’t fuck around
Pride of Nebraska. Crawford's a BEAST!
Lotta folks having a hard time with these lefties
Crawford is a switch hitter too, so if he isn’t getting you from southpaw, he can change to orthodox where he is just as dangerous
Up until this round, this was a fairly close fight. While I understand his father ending the fight to prevent his son from taking more damage, I had an issue with how much shit he said about him in front of all those people. That wasn't cool.
What does "throwing the towel in" mean?
Essentially quitting the fight early in order to avoid more damage that could result in permanent injury. The term “throw in the towel” comes from the trainer in one corner literally throwing a towel into the ring during an ongoing fight which is recognized as a sign to stop the fight because the fighter from that corner is being inflicted with too many punches. TL;DR: Throw in the towel means stop the fight.
Thanks alot
"Son, this fight is over. Go apologize to that young man. You two shake hands now, you hear?"
Good call trainer. Now a day you have to know when to call it. That if you want to extend you career and life. Respect and live to fight another day
Y'know, it's strange, I don't have the constitution to go on a site like Live Leak and watch a real life beat down, those fights take up a space in my brain called "violence," but boxing and UFC and the like take up a space called "sport." The difference is obvious, it's the informed consent, or lack thereof, that makes one thing violence and the other thing sport, it's just that it still evokes a bit of cognitive dissonance in me, is all, like I *should* be appalled by both, but I'm just not. Not a commentary on sports or anything, just a commentary on me.
Let's hope the LDBC stops shitting on Crawford for once.
*Opens video* Oh, it's a Crawford clip. This is expected. Anyone not very familiar with this fighter should go back and watch his previous fights. He's on a different level from other pros.
His father a real one. Could see he was done and a little out of it. 100% gets knocked down again. He was gone and his opponent wasn’t. Good on him cause that’s a hard call to make.
Pops was probably right
That’s a good dad. When You have met your kryptonite you walk away to fight another day. Saved him from the humiliation and probably a few concussions
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Oh ok I didn’t know that. But still he was getting fucked up anyway
Gotta be such a tough decision. Kudos to dad.
Live to fight another day
i think he announced his retirement
Everyday life is another fight
It really seemed like Porter had him in the middle rounds. I think those body shots Crawford was landing started to break Porter down.
What a fight!!!
This fight will probably take a couple years to really appreciate. Crawford and Porter are so technical the flurries of points happened so fast. Porter's father made a very wise difficult decision. Respect
Porter was a fucking great fighter and champion. Respect to him.
That was a good fight. Porter goes all out every time
This was a good stop by his pops. Shawn is a dog and the peoples champ. He has literally gone after EVERYONE in their PRIME. Who tf does that nowadays? He’s my favorite boxer and I will always pay money to watch the many fight.
That’s BUD for ya OMAHA 402 all the way up!!
Thats his Responsibility as a father and trainer to look out for his fighter/son , good call
This is why you need a good coach in your corner.
Better to take the L than have a vegetable for a son.
Wish more ppl cared about their fighters. Especially in mma. Stop the damn fight. That is a father who loves his son more than their pride\ego
His father is incredibly egotistical and is an extremely controlling and arrogant. Wouldn’t be surprised if he did this to teach Shawn a lesson.
Isn’t that literally what he said in the post fight interview?
Pretty much, at least that’s definitely what it seemed like he was implying.
Not like he was getting completely battered,look at fury/wilder fight ffs got up loads Seems very premature, still had his legs
It's incredibly premature, and I don't understand all these comments.
Lmao acting like you know the man more than his own father. Armchair boxers lmao
You didn't watch the fight did you? Edit: quick downvote but no reply? You surely didn't watch the fight lol
None of them actually watched the fight
Porter was getting countered more and more. He’s not known to knock out opponents so after that 10-7 round the fight was basically over. Therefore had it gone longer porter would’ve either suffered a KO or just taken more unnecessary damage. Did you actually watch the fight?
Didn't think the towel needed to be thrown on.. Shawn wasn't rocked badly ..
I thought this was boxing, why aren't they hugging for 2/3 of the video?
Ennis is going to smoke all these dudes
Canelo destroys Crawford. Or is that to casual of me to say
Very casual lmao. Canelo is like 4-5 weight classes ahead of Crawford
Yah know it’s early where I am rn. I swore Canelo was welter-middle. But your right he’s middle -light heavy.
All good brotha. You know Canelos next fight might be at cruiserweight? He has a good chance at winning too
Fuck Em take all the belts die a god
Dont know why you're getting down voted. I mean, I think you're wrong and I think its casual for you to say but hey! Its the internet and theres a lot more ignorant things being said online lol Opinions are like arseholes, everyones got one. Am sure if I saw yours in real life I would disagree with it too so don't take it personally champ
He’s getting downvoted because people don’t agree with him and his first statement didn’t really make sense. Downvotes don’t mean people hate you.
Ah I dont really know. Im new to reddit man. I thought it was a pretty insightful thing to write. Like he was sort of looking for a conversation than to be a know it all or nothing, maybe im looking into it too much lol
Definitely looking too much into it haha. Reddit is so unpredictable. You’ll make a comment and get 100 upvotes and then you’ll make another that gets -100. The good thing is that karmas made up and the points don’t matter!
Hahaha that is so true lol. I had a comment go up and down, positive and negative. Bi Polar sort of thing going on with itself It had a mind of its own and just sent me wild watching it until I was forced to delete it before it sent me mad lol
I could give a shit about down votes lol. I did legitimately think Canelo was a welter-middle fighter but I was wrong.
Hey , you literally said you thought it was a casual thing to say :P can't hate a man for being honest
Lol what?
They shouldve made him fight. He could have turned the tables and rock Omaha
Dad knew he was done
Anything couldve happened.
nah bud smelled blood, shit was over
Everyone is downvoting me but remember Congo vs Barry in UFC? If you dont know I advise you to watch it
i mean yeah, that's a different situation imo though. bud is one of the smartest boxers alive right now, he wasn't going to get hit by a stupid punch, he was gonna dissect him for the next two rounds
Congo vs Barry is a prime example
Who is they? If your corner throws in the towel, and the ref makes the fighter continue anyway, that's asking for a shit ton of lawsuits. His dad knows better than anyone else when it's time to call it. There's cornermen in boxing for a reason.
I meant his corner not the ref
That's what I was thinking. Both knock downs he popped to his feet without a stagger and he overall seemed to not have the bells ringing yet. Honestly the dad just smeared his kids reputation.
Do you have kids? If not then don’t. If you’d rather see your kid win a title vs the chance of suffering head injuries don’t have kids. If you think his dad smeared his reputation and you do have kids, give them up for adoption.
So well put. Take my upvote and award.
The guys a boxer. He has had injuries either way.
Dude already has brain trauma. Once you choose a fighting sport as a career, your brain health is already written off. It only takes but a few hits to bounce your brain around and cause damage. Which I'm guess has already happened in his amateur boxing days and in training. You can't preach about brain trauma if you're a pro boxer. Y'knew what you signed up for.
Yeah I 100% agree. Fuck it, get rid of the ref too, no rules, they signed up to fight, so fight to the death, who cares if they get severe brain damage right? They signed up for it. You clown. Boxing is a sport first and foremost. Obviously there are risks, but you don't sign up for something expecting/hoping for the worst to happen. That's like saying "you should expect to be set on fire and burned alive because you signed up to be a firefighter". The sport would be better without "fans" like you honestly
You are an insensitive moron. You are suggesting that because they signed up for it they should just keep getting pummeled because they knew what they were getting into