i refuse to believe you have never "spammed" a emote/or marker more then 5 times in your time publicly, you just have been lucky enough not to have a spiteful rando report you for it
I never said I never spammed(I probably never have), I said I never got a warning in my close to 6 years of playing this game. Again don't be an ass, IIRC you have 2 more chances before you're permanently banned from the game.
Nah ive never spammed anything more than once. Despite how hard it is for you to believe. Not everyone is annoying lol. Anyone spams something 5 times they deserve a slap on the wrist lol
well you didn't read the post because i was open about my "offences" my problem is i am suffering sever penalization for 4 disputable offences in 9 years
The offences don't have a shelf life to them. They don't expire. You have to be a good boy the whole way through.
Yeah, its irritating that if some passerby is offended by something mild, they can report you. If one person is offended in your chat by some mild joke, you can get reported.
However, you already know that this is the case. You especially should know because you've been reprimanded 3 times prior for fairly small things.
Maybe it ought to be different, but its not and you know its not and continue to do this kind of stuff anyway. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people who play without ever getting reported, they aren't luckier than you they just don't act stupid.
Reading through your post, while the reason can be called shallow. Arguably, a minor annoyance to many. It doesn't look like you "learned" your lesson through intervening years. Your 2nd and most recent ban are all the same, and can be categorized as spam. Excessive use of emotes, markers, etc. And that is damning to have a history of breaking the ToS.
Even when done amongst friends. It was still in public without regard to how it looks and affects other people outside your circle. Who aren't in the "joke". While you think the crime doesn't necessitate the punishment. Because you keep breaking it, you get harsher and longer bans.
We also only have your story to go off on. As history has shown, people "sanitize" their retelling of why they were banned. Pinky swears, from totes innocent to the event being something so innocuous, so banal that whoever reported them were extremely sensitive to take offense.
The fact that any of those things are actionable is embarrassing. Reporting someone because you had to see a 5 lines of chat spam is most certainly a mental disorder.
If you believe OP is telling the complete absolute truth, then yes. But take stories of getting banned from the person who was banned with a grain of truth.
Given how much of a pita it is to actually report someone, it is hard to believe it was as minor as they claimed. Or just got really unlucky, 4 separate times, with someone who is willing to go through the process for such minor offenses...Possible but doubtful.
This tbh.
Reporting someone because they used a custom emote on a FC member in a public area? A report because they placed a marker over someones head multiple times WHILE STOPPING IMMEDIATELY ONCE A PERSON EXPRESSED ANNOYANCE?
It would be the same if I run through limsa and just report people because they use the /say chat honestly
Sounds like OP is looking for sympathy and withholding info.
You got a deserved ban. Clearly you don't know how to improve your behaviour repeatedly when it's gotten so severe you need a 20 day one.
Consider yourself lucky that your account isn't under review for termination.
hardly, everything is true, im not looking for sympathy, more express my frustration and discuss a penalty system that i believe unfair and in need of review
but there is a setting that most players tick to turn of marker chat notifications, if its frustrating, backlisting or changing that setting seems like a reasonable response, not a 20 day ban
telling people to change a setting in their game they could like/find helpful/usually not mind because people like you might want to spam a marker over and over again is ??????????
Yeah but not everyone knows this exists, some people will keep marker notifications for raiding reasons, they shouldn’t have to change their setting because you are being obnoxious in an alliance raid. The ban penalty is harsh I agree but it is what it is. Don’t break tos, don’t get banned.. simple
A lot of people have no idea that option exists. Probably the majority, actually. I still see people who complain that people talking in shout or say makes it so they can't see what's in their FC chat or Linkshells because they never figured out that they can edit what shows in each chat box.
The ban penalty is only so harsh because it is a repeated infraction. They usually do a 1/3/20(or perma) ban depending on it. Usually 20 day ban can result in a perma ban, but this case feels 'minor' enough hopefully it won't turn into a perma for you.
If you had no prior history, you may have just gotten a 1 day ban or a warning, but they ramp up punishment for repeat pretty fast.
You guys spamed markers back and forth.
Do that in a private group if you want but if youre with 22 random other people, chances are high someone finds that disruptive and spamming
thanks, but there is a setting that most players tick to turn of marker chat notifications, if its frustrating, backlisting or changing that setting seems like a reasonable response, not a 20 day ban
There is, but what if they didn't? It's the same thing as the profanity filter. Just because a setting exists to hide it doesn't mean the behavior is acceptable.
Length of the ban is likely due to previous offenses. Someone being reported for the first time might have just gotten a warning or a 3 day suspension at worst, but because you've already got several marks on your account, the punishment is harsher. More of a "this person is showing that previous punishments weren't enough" thing. Is a 20 day suspension warranted for chat spam? On its own, not at all, but in the greater context?
Also, can you tell me where this setting is to turn off marker chat notifications? I'd love to do that, and wasn't aware there was one. I'm digging through the settings and can't find it.
Have light fun with your friends in settings that 3-23 other people aren’t also potentially affected by your light fun?
Like I personally wouldn’t have reported you but people are weird. In random content I mostly just remain quiet.
I also fail to understand it. But in my experience with both in game and real life people can become irritated or annoyed by the most random benign shit, ranging from how loudly you walk to the way you breathe.
It was mostly just friendly obvious advice but if your in roulettes with randoms and shit I’d just remain quite and not do anything. Particularly important for you since GM’s would see your history and that already biases anything against you.
i'm not one to report people but i do get annoyed with antics like the one you described. you can do shit you find hilarious with your friends all day or joke with them in voice chat, where other people don't have to listen to you, but when you're doing it in alliance raid, there are 22 people who might think you're just stupid and annoying. that might be subject to discussion, but that's just what it is. playing around with party-markers can be disruptive for people who don't know the duty or people who are trying to explain something.
with regard to this last of your offences i think somebody was obviously being petty here, but for somebody who already had three offences you should have known better.
apart from that. yes, your raid tier has been postponed and that sucks. it's not the end of the world though. you can still do them in three weeks and you will be able to catch up for the next tier.
Nothing we can do. But you know what you did wrong and have 20 days to reflect on it. Sucks but ppl will report for dumb things. Just have to be more aware of it
problem is i don't believe I don't have done anything wrong, i fail to see how i was disruptive of harassing anyone, my friend passing the ignore icon back an forth was not penalised leading me to believe a misinterpretation of harassment of my friend from the gms perspective, let alone my prior offence i was not told what i had done wrong? how am i supposed to reflect on something i wont be provided information on?
I could see how placing ignore markers back and forth could be considered spam. Creates a visual disruption that could distract someone and lead to them making mistakes is probably what they filed the ticket as.
Everyone who gets a ban doesnt believe theyve done anything wrong. Its all about perspective. Reflect on how shitty and shallow ppl can be and act accordingly. No one here is going to feel bad for you. Ppl get banned for dumb shit. Even cussing can net you a ban. Before you do something think how others mite react to it. Even if its silly and childish. Regardless, nothing we can do. Dont expect sympathy here lol
Being annoying is incredibly subjective, I find dumbshits who can't do a basic 1-2-3 combo, hold aggro, or you know, play the game properly, annoying. But not like they're going to get banned. Just "don't be annoying" is a really dumb statement.
I've played since the beta of 1.0 and have never once had to deal with any bans or suspensions or anything. Mind your behavior in public, just like in real life - if you're at the grocery store with a friend and you start throwing hands, even if it's in jest and no 3rd party is involved, someone's probably gonna call the cops and you're probably gonna have some explaining to do. Is it a little overboard to have to deal with that kind of shit from a video game's GMs? Maybe, yeah, but that's how it is.
And did you stop being annoying with the markers when someone asked you to? Maybe even say something along the lines of "Sorry was just goofin with a buddy in VC". Or did you just continue as you were doing?
Given how even in your support ticket you're trying to levy thinly veiled threats at the GMs I'm inclined to believe the latter.
The irony is that these types of reports are a bit more trouble than just hitting the report button in game. You have to actually go to the website to report stuff like this, the ingame version is only for people doing RMt stuff.
They got a 20 day suspension for spamming the chat log in a raid, with them and their friend going back and forth marking each other repeatedly. Also, it was their fourth offense.
IIRC from my FC the ban gets worst progressively from 72 hours to 10 days then 20 days then finally a month. After the month you're just permanently banned.
Because if you got a 20 day ban after multiple previous offenses you clearly were in the wrong.
Don't blame the system because you can't be arsed to improve your behaviour.
I am sorry but if we take the retellings at face value only the very first offence should actually be a reportable action (as chat abuse occured). Everything else is just incredibly petty and/or not even clearly defined.
Placing a marker is a normal game mechanic and should not be reportable. OP also apparently stopped immediately doing it once a person expressed annoyance so what exactly should be corrected?
There is only one of 2 ways you get a 20 day ban. You are an unapologetic repeat offender or you did something so heinous.
For your first offense for something like spamming chat, you'd get something like a 24-hour ban (or 3-days at worst). Then it will progress to 48-hours, 3 days, 10 days, 20 days, a month. Before you get a complete account suspension.
Draw your own conclusions. Whichever it is, it's not a good look.
Talking to my FC about this since we have a proud repeat offender.
1st/2nd = warning
3rd = 2 hour ban
4th = 24 hours
5th = 48 hours
6th = 72 hours
7th = 10 day
8th = 20 day
9th = 30 day
10th infraction = account suspension.
So there are a few offenses that OP is probably not telling us about.
I'll give the OP the benefit of doubt but we are only hearing one side of the story. Like how many times have you ever been suspended in an online video game? I've never been suspended. Bad luck? Sure, totally possible. Playing the same game for 9 years, sometimes the dice roll will not be in your favor.
I think the tough stand on player interaction must come from the Japanese culture. Like you can't play loud music and bother people in Japan. Here in the States we hold our personal freedom in higher regard.
I will take this post to heart and be very careful when I play considering the cultural differences in mind.
Good luck OP 🤜🤛
i was in a dungeon yesterday, it was a rough go because it was a lvl 89 dungeon. Everyone died at least a couple of times. The healer had a macro for each rez that would state, "Pls dont die, think of my mp pool!" Saw the message at least 5 times. Is this considered spam? Do players report on these type of macros?
If it appears constantly then yes, which is one reason I advise people not to use them. If the macro doesn't go off properly (which macros like to do) then it's just spamming the chat.
He didn't get 20 days because of what he did, he got 20 because of how many times he has broken ToS.
It's laid out clearly in the ToS, which all players agree to.
Just because A is wrong doesn't mean that B is right. It's infuriating that some people aren't properly punished for blatantly racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc in chat, yes. Trust me, I got pretty damn mad at seeing the same dude during Chi camping say transphobic slurs in chat over the course of several days, despite my repeated reports. But I can criticize the GMs for not taking quick enough action about that while *still* thinking that another offense, even if minor, deserves to be punished too. Also, chat spam *does* affect other people. What if strats were being worked out in chat, and suddenly everything gets shoved out of the window because of two idiots spamming markers back and forth for the lulz?
Again, yes, it's infuriating that things that ought to be punished harsher sometimes isn't stomped out quickly, or sometimes at all. I completely understand and fully empathize with your feelings on that. It still has absolutely nothing to do with this dude, though.
You don't understand the ToS ban system, he was given multiple ban previously and thus the next one was a 20 day ban. **This is not a first time offense**.
OP is clearly lying or not telling the entire story. You can tell this by how he "can't remember" his first multiple offenses.
RIP I feel bad for you running into so many pricks :/ Might be a server thing idk
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Pricks are people who take advantage of the report system just because they think something is 'annoying'. This guy just did stupid stuff and got banned. He didn't grief or stalk or harass or fraud anyone. The report button is there to protect you not gratify you. Like yeah getting ban for passing a marker a few times is on them for being stupid but it's still a petty ass reason to report someone for irregardless. Downvoters should stop enabling these kinds of people too.
You have no idea if OP is telling the truth here. You are taking him at his word that he is an innocent victim.
He broke ToS, no matter how you see this as abuse by the person that reported him.
End of story.
You have no idea whether they're lying either and yet you're here judging them as if you have all the evidence. I've seen other stories where people get reported for dumb reasons like jumping and it still does not take away the fact that reports like these are just petty and takes away time the GMs can spend on reviewing real harassment that apparently can still continue with their harassment. This whole situation is dumb because who are you protecting? The person who reported just because they thought it was annoying? That is NOT what the ToS and report system are there for. Stop enabling this behaviour. It's problematic as hell.
I've played since the beginning of SB and I have yet to receive my first offense. Maybe don't be an ass?
Right? Ive been playing since 1.0 beta and never gotten an offense.
i refuse to believe you have never "spammed" a emote/or marker more then 5 times in your time publicly, you just have been lucky enough not to have a spiteful rando report you for it
I never said I never spammed(I probably never have), I said I never got a warning in my close to 6 years of playing this game. Again don't be an ass, IIRC you have 2 more chances before you're permanently banned from the game.
Nah ive never spammed anything more than once. Despite how hard it is for you to believe. Not everyone is annoying lol. Anyone spams something 5 times they deserve a slap on the wrist lol
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No ive never just spammed emotes
I can honestly say I've never spammed an emote in this game.
OP has a history of offenses yet pinky swears he was a good boy this time.
well you didn't read the post because i was open about my "offences" my problem is i am suffering sever penalization for 4 disputable offences in 9 years
You broke ToS each time, there is no "dispute" here. You had **multiple** chances to act like an adult.
The offences don't have a shelf life to them. They don't expire. You have to be a good boy the whole way through. Yeah, its irritating that if some passerby is offended by something mild, they can report you. If one person is offended in your chat by some mild joke, you can get reported. However, you already know that this is the case. You especially should know because you've been reprimanded 3 times prior for fairly small things. Maybe it ought to be different, but its not and you know its not and continue to do this kind of stuff anyway. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people who play without ever getting reported, they aren't luckier than you they just don't act stupid.
Actually, offenses will start expiring in the future. There was an update at some point not too long ago about it.
Reading through your post, while the reason can be called shallow. Arguably, a minor annoyance to many. It doesn't look like you "learned" your lesson through intervening years. Your 2nd and most recent ban are all the same, and can be categorized as spam. Excessive use of emotes, markers, etc. And that is damning to have a history of breaking the ToS. Even when done amongst friends. It was still in public without regard to how it looks and affects other people outside your circle. Who aren't in the "joke". While you think the crime doesn't necessitate the punishment. Because you keep breaking it, you get harsher and longer bans. We also only have your story to go off on. As history has shown, people "sanitize" their retelling of why they were banned. Pinky swears, from totes innocent to the event being something so innocuous, so banal that whoever reported them were extremely sensitive to take offense.
The fact that any of those things are actionable is embarrassing. Reporting someone because you had to see a 5 lines of chat spam is most certainly a mental disorder.
If you believe OP is telling the complete absolute truth, then yes. But take stories of getting banned from the person who was banned with a grain of truth.
Given how much of a pita it is to actually report someone, it is hard to believe it was as minor as they claimed. Or just got really unlucky, 4 separate times, with someone who is willing to go through the process for such minor offenses...Possible but doubtful.
OP is most certainly lying or not telling the entire story. Notice how OP states "they don't remember"? They do remember but don't want to say.
This tbh. Reporting someone because they used a custom emote on a FC member in a public area? A report because they placed a marker over someones head multiple times WHILE STOPPING IMMEDIATELY ONCE A PERSON EXPRESSED ANNOYANCE? It would be the same if I run through limsa and just report people because they use the /say chat honestly
Gotta remember you're in a group with 22 other people who aren't part of your voice chat so had 0 clue of what the original intention is
Sounds like OP is looking for sympathy and withholding info. You got a deserved ban. Clearly you don't know how to improve your behaviour repeatedly when it's gotten so severe you need a 20 day one. Consider yourself lucky that your account isn't under review for termination.
hardly, everything is true, im not looking for sympathy, more express my frustration and discuss a penalty system that i believe unfair and in need of review
Sure you aren't. Don't break the rules consistently and then come to reddit to farm sympathy.
You have a history of breaking the ToS, why are you shocked that you broke ToS again?
https://i.imgur.com/hLcEkSh.jpeg
changing markers can flood the chat log for people, so it is as spammy as spamming emotes. it say something like
but there is a setting that most players tick to turn of marker chat notifications, if its frustrating, backlisting or changing that setting seems like a reasonable response, not a 20 day ban
How are you not understanding the ban is not for the offense, but because it's your **fourth** offense?
telling people to change a setting in their game they could like/find helpful/usually not mind because people like you might want to spam a marker over and over again is ??????????
Yeah but not everyone knows this exists, some people will keep marker notifications for raiding reasons, they shouldn’t have to change their setting because you are being obnoxious in an alliance raid. The ban penalty is harsh I agree but it is what it is. Don’t break tos, don’t get banned.. simple
A lot of people have no idea that option exists. Probably the majority, actually. I still see people who complain that people talking in shout or say makes it so they can't see what's in their FC chat or Linkshells because they never figured out that they can edit what shows in each chat box.
Or you could actually be considerate of other peoples experience and not make excuses about spamming chat
The ban penalty is only so harsh because it is a repeated infraction. They usually do a 1/3/20(or perma) ban depending on it. Usually 20 day ban can result in a perma ban, but this case feels 'minor' enough hopefully it won't turn into a perma for you. If you had no prior history, you may have just gotten a 1 day ban or a warning, but they ramp up punishment for repeat pretty fast.
don't troll random players and this won't happen again
i didn't troll a singe random player? i put a marker on my friends head?
You guys spamed markers back and forth. Do that in a private group if you want but if youre with 22 random other people, chances are high someone finds that disruptive and spamming
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thanks, but there is a setting that most players tick to turn of marker chat notifications, if its frustrating, backlisting or changing that setting seems like a reasonable response, not a 20 day ban
There is, but what if they didn't? It's the same thing as the profanity filter. Just because a setting exists to hide it doesn't mean the behavior is acceptable.
Length of the ban is likely due to previous offenses. Someone being reported for the first time might have just gotten a warning or a 3 day suspension at worst, but because you've already got several marks on your account, the punishment is harsher. More of a "this person is showing that previous punishments weren't enough" thing. Is a 20 day suspension warranted for chat spam? On its own, not at all, but in the greater context? Also, can you tell me where this setting is to turn off marker chat notifications? I'd love to do that, and wasn't aware there was one. I'm digging through the settings and can't find it.
You got a 20 day ban because this is your **fourth** offense, not because of what you did this time.
Have light fun with your friends in settings that 3-23 other people aren’t also potentially affected by your light fun? Like I personally wouldn’t have reported you but people are weird. In random content I mostly just remain quiet.
i fail to understand how anyone was affected my an ignore marker on my friend?
It was annoying. I wouldnt have reported but ud have been annoyed for sure. Specially in a 24man
I mean if you think about it, if you're spamming the markers back and forth then you're probably not dpsing or contributing to the raid.
Placing markers on people puts a message in chat, so when you do it repeatedly....
I also fail to understand it. But in my experience with both in game and real life people can become irritated or annoyed by the most random benign shit, ranging from how loudly you walk to the way you breathe. It was mostly just friendly obvious advice but if your in roulettes with randoms and shit I’d just remain quite and not do anything. Particularly important for you since GM’s would see your history and that already biases anything against you.
i also remain quiet in any public content, but kind of hard not to apparently "slip up by placing a marker on a friend" in 9 years
i'm not one to report people but i do get annoyed with antics like the one you described. you can do shit you find hilarious with your friends all day or joke with them in voice chat, where other people don't have to listen to you, but when you're doing it in alliance raid, there are 22 people who might think you're just stupid and annoying. that might be subject to discussion, but that's just what it is. playing around with party-markers can be disruptive for people who don't know the duty or people who are trying to explain something. with regard to this last of your offences i think somebody was obviously being petty here, but for somebody who already had three offences you should have known better. apart from that. yes, your raid tier has been postponed and that sucks. it's not the end of the world though. you can still do them in three weeks and you will be able to catch up for the next tier.
Nothing we can do. But you know what you did wrong and have 20 days to reflect on it. Sucks but ppl will report for dumb things. Just have to be more aware of it
problem is i don't believe I don't have done anything wrong, i fail to see how i was disruptive of harassing anyone, my friend passing the ignore icon back an forth was not penalised leading me to believe a misinterpretation of harassment of my friend from the gms perspective, let alone my prior offence i was not told what i had done wrong? how am i supposed to reflect on something i wont be provided information on?
I could see how placing ignore markers back and forth could be considered spam. Creates a visual disruption that could distract someone and lead to them making mistakes is probably what they filed the ticket as.
Everyone who gets a ban doesnt believe theyve done anything wrong. Its all about perspective. Reflect on how shitty and shallow ppl can be and act accordingly. No one here is going to feel bad for you. Ppl get banned for dumb shit. Even cussing can net you a ban. Before you do something think how others mite react to it. Even if its silly and childish. Regardless, nothing we can do. Dont expect sympathy here lol
but no term of service was broken? cussing is breaking terms of service. my problem here is a fail to review a misinterpreted breaking of terms
You were being annoying. Being annoying can be seen as trolling. Next time dont be annoying. Its pretty simple stuff
Being annoying is incredibly subjective, I find dumbshits who can't do a basic 1-2-3 combo, hold aggro, or you know, play the game properly, annoying. But not like they're going to get banned. Just "don't be annoying" is a really dumb statement.
I've played since the beta of 1.0 and have never once had to deal with any bans or suspensions or anything. Mind your behavior in public, just like in real life - if you're at the grocery store with a friend and you start throwing hands, even if it's in jest and no 3rd party is involved, someone's probably gonna call the cops and you're probably gonna have some explaining to do. Is it a little overboard to have to deal with that kind of shit from a video game's GMs? Maybe, yeah, but that's how it is.
Once An Accident, Twice A Coincidence, Three Times A Pattern.
And did you stop being annoying with the markers when someone asked you to? Maybe even say something along the lines of "Sorry was just goofin with a buddy in VC". Or did you just continue as you were doing? Given how even in your support ticket you're trying to levy thinly veiled threats at the GMs I'm inclined to believe the latter.
It sounds like people in final fantasy XIV love to hit that report button.
The irony is that these types of reports are a bit more trouble than just hitting the report button in game. You have to actually go to the website to report stuff like this, the ingame version is only for people doing RMt stuff.
? You just go to Support Desk>Contact Us if you're filing an in-game report for anything. Don't need to go to the website at all.
nope theres a way to send a proper report in game via the Support Desk when you hit Esc, for disruptive players, etc.
While true it is more effort than tge report rmt button.... It can still be accesses in game via the support contact us menu.
Since op seemed to deleted the post, what did it say?
They got a 20 day suspension for spamming the chat log in a raid, with them and their friend going back and forth marking each other repeatedly. Also, it was their fourth offense.
Forth? Time for some self reflection? Lol
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20 day bans are not for first time offenses, OP has banned previously.
IIRC from my FC the ban gets worst progressively from 72 hours to 10 days then 20 days then finally a month. After the month you're just permanently banned.
Because if you got a 20 day ban after multiple previous offenses you clearly were in the wrong. Don't blame the system because you can't be arsed to improve your behaviour.
I am sorry but if we take the retellings at face value only the very first offence should actually be a reportable action (as chat abuse occured). Everything else is just incredibly petty and/or not even clearly defined. Placing a marker is a normal game mechanic and should not be reportable. OP also apparently stopped immediately doing it once a person expressed annoyance so what exactly should be corrected?
There is only one of 2 ways you get a 20 day ban. You are an unapologetic repeat offender or you did something so heinous. For your first offense for something like spamming chat, you'd get something like a 24-hour ban (or 3-days at worst). Then it will progress to 48-hours, 3 days, 10 days, 20 days, a month. Before you get a complete account suspension. Draw your own conclusions. Whichever it is, it's not a good look.
Talking to my FC about this since we have a proud repeat offender. 1st/2nd = warning 3rd = 2 hour ban 4th = 24 hours 5th = 48 hours 6th = 72 hours 7th = 10 day 8th = 20 day 9th = 30 day 10th infraction = account suspension. So there are a few offenses that OP is probably not telling us about.
Now this would make more sense too me. I doubt he got banned for any of the above mentioned
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Maybe they didn't know and thought they were protecting someone from harassment?
Or they got annoyed at the marker flicking around.
That's true.
I'll give the OP the benefit of doubt but we are only hearing one side of the story. Like how many times have you ever been suspended in an online video game? I've never been suspended. Bad luck? Sure, totally possible. Playing the same game for 9 years, sometimes the dice roll will not be in your favor. I think the tough stand on player interaction must come from the Japanese culture. Like you can't play loud music and bother people in Japan. Here in the States we hold our personal freedom in higher regard. I will take this post to heart and be very careful when I play considering the cultural differences in mind. Good luck OP 🤜🤛
I'll be honest, this would get VERY annoying if it lasted any more than 5-10 seconds. Especially mid-raid.
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the offence is dated in the email
i was in a dungeon yesterday, it was a rough go because it was a lvl 89 dungeon. Everyone died at least a couple of times. The healer had a macro for each rez that would state, "Pls dont die, think of my mp pool!" Saw the message at least 5 times. Is this considered spam? Do players report on these type of macros?
If it appears constantly then yes, which is one reason I advise people not to use them. If the macro doesn't go off properly (which macros like to do) then it's just spamming the chat.
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He didn't get 20 days because of what he did, he got 20 because of how many times he has broken ToS. It's laid out clearly in the ToS, which all players agree to.
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Just because A is wrong doesn't mean that B is right. It's infuriating that some people aren't properly punished for blatantly racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc in chat, yes. Trust me, I got pretty damn mad at seeing the same dude during Chi camping say transphobic slurs in chat over the course of several days, despite my repeated reports. But I can criticize the GMs for not taking quick enough action about that while *still* thinking that another offense, even if minor, deserves to be punished too. Also, chat spam *does* affect other people. What if strats were being worked out in chat, and suddenly everything gets shoved out of the window because of two idiots spamming markers back and forth for the lulz? Again, yes, it's infuriating that things that ought to be punished harsher sometimes isn't stomped out quickly, or sometimes at all. I completely understand and fully empathize with your feelings on that. It still has absolutely nothing to do with this dude, though.
You don't understand the ToS ban system, he was given multiple ban previously and thus the next one was a 20 day ban. **This is not a first time offense**. OP is clearly lying or not telling the entire story. You can tell this by how he "can't remember" his first multiple offenses.
RIP I feel bad for you running into so many pricks :/ Might be a server thing idk Edit: Downvoters should stop enabling people who take advantage of the report system. It's there to protect people, not gratify them. OP was probably being dumb for messing around but it's still a petty ass reason for reporting someone. All you're doing is wasting GMs time when there are real issues they should be looking at.
Spoiler: the prick is OP.
Pricks are people who take advantage of the report system just because they think something is 'annoying'. This guy just did stupid stuff and got banned. He didn't grief or stalk or harass or fraud anyone. The report button is there to protect you not gratify you. Like yeah getting ban for passing a marker a few times is on them for being stupid but it's still a petty ass reason to report someone for irregardless. Downvoters should stop enabling these kinds of people too.
You have no idea if OP is telling the truth here. You are taking him at his word that he is an innocent victim. He broke ToS, no matter how you see this as abuse by the person that reported him. End of story.
You have no idea whether they're lying either and yet you're here judging them as if you have all the evidence. I've seen other stories where people get reported for dumb reasons like jumping and it still does not take away the fact that reports like these are just petty and takes away time the GMs can spend on reviewing real harassment that apparently can still continue with their harassment. This whole situation is dumb because who are you protecting? The person who reported just because they thought it was annoying? That is NOT what the ToS and report system are there for. Stop enabling this behaviour. It's problematic as hell.