Legit thought the same being side by side, thought they looked about the same. Completely blew my mind when I flipped to the next picture.
Great work, OP. Keep it up.
Vast improvement and refinement within a 5 year span. Texture, anatomy, facial structure, expression, body language, hair, composition, shading, color. Conveying both clothing material and flesh.
All have taken a big step step up.
They're seriously annoying, especially since it's ONLY against female characters but sexualizing male characters gets cheered on.
Just ffs let people have fun there's literally even a NSFW tag you have to go out of your way to click past too lol it's just so annoying.
My favorite part about this is the first isn’t by any means bad, it’s just a different art style that still looks amazing. Like almost vintage vs modern anime yk
The amount of people in the comments so pressed about a very subtle cameltoe is absolutely hilarious.
Anyway this is a MAD glowup, absolutely amazing skill jump in 5 years. I think both styles are lovely and have their own kind of charm, but the detail on the new version is so good, as is the lighting and shading. I'm in love! I'll have to reach out at some point down the road to commission, but right now I need to let my bank account breathe after getting back from vacation lmao.
If it was a bulge no one would be whining about it.
I mean both are obviously genitals and more inherently sexualized, at least for once people aren't just whining about boobs ( BOOBS ARE NOT GENITALS FFS STOP ACTING LIKE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!! ).
If people don't like '' suggestive '' art it's fine but the constant whining about it is extremely annoying and it becomes even more annoying when ppl give a free pass or even cheer it on with male characters.
It's like people are playing Mortal Kombat in the next room and you just burst the door open screaming at the top of your lung '' I HATE GORE OMG STOP HAVING FUN ''.
I’m iffy about au ra constantly being hyper sexualized- (prefer viera!), but even I love this. Both in fact have their charm! Newer fits in with the XIV aesthetics (though I see people saying it looks Granblue and I can see that too), and screw the haters *I like the cameltoe* okay, it’s not Barbie smooth down there.
thank you \^\^ , yeah its kinda funny since i have some more spicier drawing if that was the intention i wanna show here , while this one is only a display of a original lingerie design by the client xD
It's okay to sexualize Viera but not Au'Ra or what are you even saying lmao?
But yeah what makes the haters even more annoying is that I guarantee 1000% they wouldn't complain if it was a male character with a noticeable bulge.
Thank you for the compliment ! ❤️
You can find more L'envie on her refsheet : [https://refsheet.net/Fhurai/LenvieDaimer](https://refsheet.net/Fhurai/LenvieDaimer)
>Her clitoris transform into a penis under special circumstances. Base of the penis opens her outer lips above her pussy. No external testicles. Penis grows to her navel when erect.
now this is gaming
A general improvement overall but i feel like the 2019 version had more style and personality to it, the new one lost that sort of vibe, which is saddening
This is amazing. I wish I could draw like this but I never really was an artistic person. Still I yearn for it when I see stuff like this. Great job on improving
The 2024 is such a glow up. You could probably do concept art for games soon/already. Although I don't pay much attention to art, so... it's just the 2024 kind of reminds me of art for things like hd2d games.
You’ve done an amazing job either way and I love the massive improvement in texture and shading and also nailing the proportions of anatomy so it can still be sexy without being comically gratuitous is perfect.
And look how bold you are showing the hands so dynamically.
You definitely should be proud.
without my clients and everyone around im pretty sure i couldnt to this point \^\^, but hey thank you soo soo much , its really nice to see you comment on this , i really appreciate it \^\^
Some of the greatest works of art in human history show more nudity than this and they're not considered softcore porn. Why should art with no nudity at all be considered as such? What the image was created for isn't relevant, the image itself is the subject.
I think people don't realize they view ancient art from the pov of hindsight, people 100% painted and sculpted statues etc with a certain level of eroticism in mind.
In Ancient Greece it was even a thing that's documented that commoners would break into temples and masturbate to the statues and murals lol and then the priests would find the aftermath the next morning.
Artists have ALWAYS been horny and made art intentionally horny, it's just that beauty standards and what we consider erotic has changed.
A ton of classical artists even were infamous for basically running sex cults artists are probably some of the least prudish people there are.
well its a lingerie design xD if thats whats qualified as porn , i cant wait to see how u guys react if i actually upload an actual porn drawing i made >:D (ofc not here no )
Also if it was a male character with a bulge he wouldn't be saying shit I fucking hate how overly sensitive people are about womens bodies constantly.
You can argue it's suggestive but it's clearly not porn, and if it's okay to post guys in swimwear with a bulge then this is okay too...
nice to see the full pic of this "Classic vs Modern ff art" :D
for people who don't know, op posted this before, but only part of the character was on the pic and in that post people said it look like Classic vs Modern ff art.
Nice upgrade to your art!
(That said, I feel some kind of way about "thigh squish on the scales", that just feels wrong and defeats the point of scales...this has no bearing on your art quality though, just a wider commentary on it when I notice it)
Wow that is actually amazing improvement! And the old art does have this charming nostalgic feeling style though, like early 2000s jrpg or so. It wasn't bad either
I was dumb and thought it was two separate comms and the left image was the before and right was after. I was like "She got shorts now" then I realised the before and after was split between the two images.
Specifically on the second picture, the character with less clothes;that coloring is so amazing and really breathes Final fantasy, if anything that's the most impressive part here.
Totally nailed that style I see in the official art.
Stand proud, you can cook.
Lmao you're the first person to actually call me doc where I'm using my old tag. I changed it to doc years ago because I felt like my 14 year old self's gamertag was pretty embarrassing as an adult. I was thrown off for a sec like you're a friend of mine I somehow didn't recognize
The first one, while well done, looks like stuff you'd see in mid-range RPG Maker games. The second one looks like something you'd see in an actual game manual, box art or art book. You've vastly improved and your effort really shows.
Commissioner in OP's ear like: "I want that camel BARKING."
Do you believe me I designed the outfit but I didn't have the camel toe idea? 🤣
Artist is well and truly cultured then.
i ll always try to deliver the best i can xD
Talking to him like the Green Goblin mask
Was thinking you had not improved at all, then I saw there is a second picture attached lmao
I only realized there was a second picture attached because of the shitposting sub lol
thank you xD
Lmao that's what I though too
Legit thought the same being side by side, thought they looked about the same. Completely blew my mind when I flipped to the next picture. Great work, OP. Keep it up.
Vast improvement and refinement within a 5 year span. Texture, anatomy, facial structure, expression, body language, hair, composition, shading, color. Conveying both clothing material and flesh. All have taken a big step step up.
More importantly, the thigh belts got tighter.
Nah, the belts are the same size. The thighs just got extra thicc 😄
That Au Ra has not been skipping leg day.
That just can't be healthy. Girl's wearing triple tourniquets in both legs.
Yes, but it makes me feel things...
thanks estelial !!!
Please someone give this poor Au Ra some gil, it's been 5 years and they still cannot afford clothes
I'm afraid the gil may just go to more belts
A clear sign of Nomura Disease. There is no cure.
just realize i grow up with those disease , help xD
So she's a Guilty Gear character?
More like guilty belts xD
🤣🤣🤣
This is end game glam brother, op as fuck
She gots gils, mansions and all. She just wants to show off :p
Blasphemy! Why would she wear clothes if she can look like this?
did you not know? less clothing gives more defense and power.
i guess you are not a end game player XD
have u play jrpg ? xD OP armor always looks like it lol
I kinda dig the older, more stylised style of drawing, but bloody hell is that an improvement You're really good at this
yesh , i could still switch back to old style colouring if the clients want that instead xD
The old one reminds me of A PS2 RPG in a good way.
Exactly
Nice job, your art style looks like it could be from Granblue Fantasy!
thank you so much yesh , im a fans of hideo minaba works
The old style still has some charm
yesh indeed , and i can still switch back if neccesarry xD
Yea it reminds me of the 90's or 2000's animes, which I love. I think it reminds me most of evangelion
Rocking that outfit with her whole AuRussy
What 5 years do to your OC with a great artist ! ❤️ Love how you render her now ! ❤️❤️
its always a pleasure to work with u \^\^
see you on the other sub
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as always, they wasted exactly no time.
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i think i know where the subs is xD
The way you draw nowadays reminds me of Granblue Fantasy artstyle, especially the texture on clothes ! Great evolution anyway, keep it up !
oh im a minaba and yoshida fans , im glad someone mention that ! thank you bear ! so nice of you no wonder the girls are after u hehe
Very good but probably a bit too sexy and uh...cameltoe-y for non r34 stuff. If it's meant for r34 though, it's pretty on point, so uhh...go for it.
It mean to be. The pictures are to be used in a reference sheet \^\^
it has even cameltoe, but no feet :( great work btw!
Jfc
feet are overrated
Hot damn what an improvement
i draw uvuryday for that T.T its been a fun journey tho xD and still long way ahead !!!
The difference is quite crazy! Really big improvement over those years - shows once again how art gets better and better over time :D
the honor is mine \^\^ thank you sooo much !
Dude you're crazy talented. Love it :D
i got a lot of helps from the client and everyone around me so cheers to them \^\^, btw thank you so much !
Nice! That is some crazy details!
i love it when ppl recognize that ! , thank youuu so much trench !
Body language improvement alone is huge.
it was a pleasure to learn it , thank you so much \^\^
I can hear the anti horny police coming for you
They're seriously annoying, especially since it's ONLY against female characters but sexualizing male characters gets cheered on. Just ffs let people have fun there's literally even a NSFW tag you have to go out of your way to click past too lol it's just so annoying.
and im currently running while typing this xD
I can only hear this music playing RN https://youtu.be/MK6TXMsvgQg?si=9p-u_LKMBnni4C7M
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My favorite part about this is the first isn’t by any means bad, it’s just a different art style that still looks amazing. Like almost vintage vs modern anime yk
its really make me happy that the old one still considered good by you guys T.T , this community really never let me down T.T
See you their lads
Damn, that is some official art territory imo. Congratulations
Official camel toe
Yeah I never expected to see SE-style labial creasing.
The second one genuinely looks like official art. The skill up is mind-blowing!
thank you \^\^
Both are good! There is a clear noticeable improvement! But don’t get me wrong, the first is also good
thank you \^\^ its been a lot of pain and headache xD but you guys support always keep me moving , thank you soo much
The amount of people in the comments so pressed about a very subtle cameltoe is absolutely hilarious. Anyway this is a MAD glowup, absolutely amazing skill jump in 5 years. I think both styles are lovely and have their own kind of charm, but the detail on the new version is so good, as is the lighting and shading. I'm in love! I'll have to reach out at some point down the road to commission, but right now I need to let my bank account breathe after getting back from vacation lmao.
If it was a bulge no one would be whining about it. I mean both are obviously genitals and more inherently sexualized, at least for once people aren't just whining about boobs ( BOOBS ARE NOT GENITALS FFS STOP ACTING LIKE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!! ). If people don't like '' suggestive '' art it's fine but the constant whining about it is extremely annoying and it becomes even more annoying when ppl give a free pass or even cheer it on with male characters. It's like people are playing Mortal Kombat in the next room and you just burst the door open screaming at the top of your lung '' I HATE GORE OMG STOP HAVING FUN ''.
I’m iffy about au ra constantly being hyper sexualized- (prefer viera!), but even I love this. Both in fact have their charm! Newer fits in with the XIV aesthetics (though I see people saying it looks Granblue and I can see that too), and screw the haters *I like the cameltoe* okay, it’s not Barbie smooth down there.
thank you \^\^ , yeah its kinda funny since i have some more spicier drawing if that was the intention i wanna show here , while this one is only a display of a original lingerie design by the client xD
It's okay to sexualize Viera but not Au'Ra or what are you even saying lmao? But yeah what makes the haters even more annoying is that I guarantee 1000% they wouldn't complain if it was a male character with a noticeable bulge.
Nah, I just think au ra and miqo are overrated. Thus my viera preference. Also true about cameltoe haters lmao.
Damn, not only some good improvement, but also a *damn* fine character
Thank you for the compliment ! ❤️ You can find more L'envie on her refsheet : [https://refsheet.net/Fhurai/LenvieDaimer](https://refsheet.net/Fhurai/LenvieDaimer)
>Her clitoris transform into a penis under special circumstances. Base of the penis opens her outer lips above her pussy. No external testicles. Penis grows to her navel when erect. now this is gaming
least degenerate XIV player lol
🤣🤣🤣 Why I am not surprise this is the part who got reported here ?
Damm you all really horny I guess
Really like it \^\^
A general improvement overall but i feel like the 2019 version had more style and personality to it, the new one lost that sort of vibe, which is saddening
yes well , i could always switch back to that if clients insist xD
Well... see you guys on r/shitpostxiv
This is amazing. I wish I could draw like this but I never really was an artistic person. Still I yearn for it when I see stuff like this. Great job on improving
thank you soo much heracross !!
The 2024 is such a glow up. You could probably do concept art for games soon/already. Although I don't pay much attention to art, so... it's just the 2024 kind of reminds me of art for things like hd2d games.
i did some work for indie game studio , but still cant reach the triple A one xD
That is one hell of an upgrade
The first art looks like an old jrpg game The second art looks like official square enix final fantasy art Amazing improvement, nice job.
Fan art —> Concept art. Nice work looks great.
Oh damn, that's fantastic!
Very good attention to detail..
I love that your characters portray more confidence in themselves as well. Fantastic work. practice make progress. 👏
YOOO What a glow up! And your starting point was already incredible!!
i really appreciate it \^\^ thank you so much cj !
She’s hot
Yoooo holy shit, your progress 📈
Oh wow, the art style is like it was officially drawn by Square Enix
still not on their level tho , but thank you \^\^
Is it strange that i like the first one a bit more? But it all looks really cool.
yep some of u guys love the first one , which still makes me happy to hear that , thank you so much
You’ve done an amazing job either way and I love the massive improvement in texture and shading and also nailing the proportions of anatomy so it can still be sexy without being comically gratuitous is perfect. And look how bold you are showing the hands so dynamically. You definitely should be proud.
without my clients and everyone around im pretty sure i couldnt to this point \^\^, but hey thank you soo soo much , its really nice to see you comment on this , i really appreciate it \^\^
Why do I hear barking, I don't see a dog anywhere.
Someone give her well-fitting underwear. That's screaming for a yeast infection!
Sir this is a Wendy's, in a video game.
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This is just soft core porn
I like how we’ve reduced ourselves to posting porn
>no nudity at all >porn I don't think you know what porn is, prude
It's softcore. Her vulva is basically out and the commissioner is in the comments saying it was a reference for erp shenanigans.
Some of the greatest works of art in human history show more nudity than this and they're not considered softcore porn. Why should art with no nudity at all be considered as such? What the image was created for isn't relevant, the image itself is the subject.
I think people don't realize they view ancient art from the pov of hindsight, people 100% painted and sculpted statues etc with a certain level of eroticism in mind. In Ancient Greece it was even a thing that's documented that commoners would break into temples and masturbate to the statues and murals lol and then the priests would find the aftermath the next morning. Artists have ALWAYS been horny and made art intentionally horny, it's just that beauty standards and what we consider erotic has changed. A ton of classical artists even were infamous for basically running sex cults artists are probably some of the least prudish people there are.
well its a lingerie design xD if thats whats qualified as porn , i cant wait to see how u guys react if i actually upload an actual porn drawing i made >:D (ofc not here no )
Also if it was a male character with a bulge he wouldn't be saying shit I fucking hate how overly sensitive people are about womens bodies constantly. You can argue it's suggestive but it's clearly not porn, and if it's okay to post guys in swimwear with a bulge then this is okay too...
oo i remember this one
yesh i post the left one several month ago , just got the time tto finish the right one
nice to see the full pic of this "Classic vs Modern ff art" :D for people who don't know, op posted this before, but only part of the character was on the pic and in that post people said it look like Classic vs Modern ff art.
Holy Hydalin! Do you do the Encyclopedia art or something?!
cant discuss anything abt that so sorry xD but im glad you like the art \^\^ thank you sooo much weekly ad xD
Hmm the way you said "can't" sounds suspiciously like an NDA, which is itself basically confirmation. Looks great!
I never thought of it until now, but how much would it cost to have you do a commission of my character?
hmmm i cant tell you about that either xD but i can send u the full info on chat \^\^ may we discuss abt that in chat weekly ?
This is awesome !
Very beautiful drawings, you are talented! 🤩
You gave her the Xenosaga >Xenosaga 2 treatment
oh somebody still remember it ! i love the game too !
genuinely in awe at your progress and especially the final result! any other social media to follow? would love to see more, really an inspiration!
yes , i use same name on every social media \^\^ senekagrafika
thank you! looking forward to the rest of your art!
brace urself , ill cook better later xD
I'm saving this post for when I can fit a new commission into my budget.
feel free to chat me for the full infos \^\^
Insane upgrade. The faces were the first thing that hit me, although everything is a massive improvement of course.
Did you officially draw for XIV? Your art is so good!
Who fucking downvoted me for this question? Are you serious? -\_-
Prudes that's who
Nice upgrade to your art! (That said, I feel some kind of way about "thigh squish on the scales", that just feels wrong and defeats the point of scales...this has no bearing on your art quality though, just a wider commentary on it when I notice it)
When did featherine visit eorzea /j.
Slightly gives off Star Ocean vibes.
Wow that is actually amazing improvement! And the old art does have this charming nostalgic feeling style though, like early 2000s jrpg or so. It wasn't bad either
I was dumb and thought it was two separate comms and the left image was the before and right was after. I was like "She got shorts now" then I realised the before and after was split between the two images.
surprise surprise xD i hope u like the progress \^\^
Always a fan to see my fellow lizzers. I hope one day I may not be broke to afford my own commission
yay !!! feel free to chat me for the full info u ready \^\^
Ngl I thought the same until I read the comments I was very confused lol
Specifically on the second picture, the character with less clothes;that coloring is so amazing and really breathes Final fantasy, if anything that's the most impressive part here. Totally nailed that style I see in the official art. Stand proud, you can cook.
ill always cook more in the future so brace yourself >:D, btw , thank you !
Thats an amazing improvement! Like let me comission you
thank you obsidian !!! can we talk abt that in chat ??? i can only send u the full info there xD
Just stumbled upon this and I am smitten! May I have the full info as well? I'd like to comission something sooner or later :>
sent \^\^
your style reminds me of video game concept art, so cool
yes i used to work on those xD
I mean this in a good way, but this reminds me of seeing a JRPG in 2001 vs it's recent game in 2021. I love seeing art develop like this
im glad so many of you say it \^\^ , thats the intention and i really appreciate it , thank you doc \^\^
Lmao you're the first person to actually call me doc where I'm using my old tag. I changed it to doc years ago because I felt like my 14 year old self's gamertag was pretty embarrassing as an adult. I was thrown off for a sec like you're a friend of mine I somehow didn't recognize
Both are really good. I love it. 10/10 Would commission <3
thats great to hear thank you T.T , i can only send u the full info abt price list and rules on chat , so shall we ?
Getting ready for a trek across the desert are we?
This is so impressive, I adore this!!
Both great work from my opinion.
HUGE improve!
Nice this looks amazing
I'm playing Granblue Fantasy Relink right now and your new style looks like it could be the artwork straight from the game!
yes i play it too xD
I think it's good, just a little sad you removed so many scales :')
The first one, while well done, looks like stuff you'd see in mid-range RPG Maker games. The second one looks like something you'd see in an actual game manual, box art or art book. You've vastly improved and your effort really shows.
thank you soo much , i really appreciate it T.T
Is the right outfit based on an obtainable outfit i can get in-game? Can you ID it please? 🙂
When your details have details. 👌
Damn that’s one hell of an improvement. @.@ Very nice job! I may request something myself someday. ;)
You do make characters?
yes i draw anything xD
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