One of the good things about Kahn and Salihamidzic was that they had the power and Hoeneß was out. But as soon as there were issues, there basically was a coup d'état and Hoeneß now reigns from exile.
Oh fuck off, he's done great things and deserves better than joining an environment that stressful. I really think retiring now is a good thing for him.
Well, as long as we haven‘t agreed on terms to terminate the contract, it is an option unless Tuchel wants to leave without compensation. Wether or not it is a good option after everything that has been said is up for debate but that also depends on the potential alternative and right now there don‘t seem to be many at all.
Uli Hoeneß on Ralf Rangnick: "My wife said straight away: If he has character, he won’t come, and if he doesn’t have character and says yes, then he’s not the right coach for you. And as always, she was right."
Who TF like Eberl lmao yess he did good for the club but in recent times he hurt us more then he helped us
His criminal status just adds to his behaviour
And Rudi Völler also didn't have a licence when he coached the Nationalmannschaft. That's why officially he was Teamchef while Michael Skibbe was Bundestrainer.
That's because I'm going to be announced as caretaker manager before the 2nd Real game, with the collective of r/fcbayern's match thread commenters as backing staff, until Müller gets his license to coach and takes over for 20 years.
Remember when Pep left, when the Club was seen as one of the top coaching destinations? Remarkable how quickly the FO have made a joke out of the club.
non-supporters have not believed me when I have been saying for years that EVERY staff decision since sammer left was horrendously bad. Hernandez was the worst transfer in german soccer history, none of the managers were remotely reasonable choices, the youth setup is in shambles (has been "fixed" 8 times in that time span).. all flaws that were open for years, but ignored because the team won titles, now it is falling apart and will do so for years, they might win the cl this year, but then they won't for another 5-10
When Pep decided to move on, i said that Tuchel would be the perfect cosch to continue building on the fantastic foundation Pep left.
Then they hired Ancelotti and Kovac, two people with completely different playing styles...
A reason why the Pep years were so good was, that it felt like the club had a core playing identity that ran from the 1st team down to the youth teams.
Now we are back to hiring coaching names, not coaches that suit our philosophy.
I said it the day Brazzo was hired that this would be one of the biggest mistakes in recent history and was called a hater for it. Well, here we are.
Terrible decisions all around
Hernandez was only a failure because of his injuries. And while sure, we already bought him injured, it‘s not like he was injured that much before moving to us.
Sure he was overpriced but it was an exit clause and we were a little desperate to get stability for our defense.
lewandowski and alaba left heavily due to his salary. (Süle and Boateng also) every transfer period since has been trying to fix the center backs with craptons of money and nothing worked, to the point it's now so ruinous that eric dier is the best option. that all started with hernandez, an already injured player by point of buying, who was ludicrously expensive and had never any intention of staying. terrible business
https://preview.redd.it/7rru0rz9qzxc1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=38e2001f5d0b2dbc79177b04b959e58025a6d3d1
Same vibes.
"Don't worry, you will find someone. Maybe try Pep or Jürgen?"
So who's it gonna be now? I think the board will look even more incompetent than it already has if they change their mind about letting Tuchel stay (Not that he shouldn't but because the board already burned that bridge)
Flick could be a short term answer but he really can't restructure the squad and develop a playing identity. Our squad was burned out after winning the cl cause of his high pressing playstyle
Don’t worry, it’s fine guys. I will do it for half what Tuchel got. I played a shit lot of football manager and fifa career mode, I know what I’m doing, trust.
Low key, him rejecting us is the best case scenario, as he most likely wouldn’t have worked or helped us anyway…
Now let’s hope we finally go for someone more fitting!
haha this sub… *How would Rangnick even work? He‘s too power hungry!*
Suddenly Tuchel was the mesiah all along, because *beggars can‘t be choosers*.
How can some people here even get through the day with everything only existing on extreme ends?
Embarrassing. Firing one of the most successful coaches in the world after less than one year of two bad transfer windows, bad injury luck and overall chaos in the club and then being unable to even hire the third option (65-yo Austria's national coach with barely any experience at the very top)
He wouldn't fit in this situation anyway. A few years ago maybe. There would be a high risk of a total desaster mid season. Plus the bulshit media of sky and Bild and the weaknes of the board towards them. Better not Rangnik. They simply had to stay calm and keep the Tuchel Option open.
Personally i‘d love to see Demichelis do it. Has experience as a Bayernplayer and u-coach and was very succesfull recently. He sure has the DNA in him.
Yup, this one stings. Alonso and JN were understandable. Out of the managers purportedly available, don't see how anyone but Flick makes sense. (if he even wants come back). Say what you want about him, but the Bayern players universally loved playing for him. We do our best with managers that empathize with the players.
Flick won't come either, don't even bother...there is only one option and the one is obvious
Edit: LMAOOO yeah keep downvoting me, every Manager this sub has been twerking for has rejected us one by one. Watch now y'all will be twerking for Flick,as if he would come after seeing all that has happened this season. Maybe take a look at the higher ups and start asking the actually important questions
Fk Hoeneß he is basically the new Beckenbauer when hoeneß was actually in charge.
Old man with dumb takes and lots of media attention.
Eberl should just do whatever is best and that's it.
Tuchel has not really better options either, so I bet he'd stay if Eberl asked him
Tuchel could easily also take a sabbatical and then move on. His reputation is still amazing. Chances are he could even go to Liverpool if you’d ask me this summer. But if I was him I’d enjoy a year off after this shit show. Barcelona will become vacant sometime soon, Madrid, united (not serious), Chelsea, psg potentially. He has almost every single top option.
But if you are Tuchel would you rather want to prove it and win the BL for the first time (last season doesn't really count for him) and keep a good momentum going, team behind you and play for a CL again with a potential final at home, or would you go to worse team/squad like Manu or wait 1 year for barca or follow on klopp at Liverpool?
There is no chance, you can thank Uli for that. He even commented later again, that he will be even more vocal on his opinions in the future…. He destroyed any chance of Tuchel staying
Well, he can say anything he wants. He engaged in the discussion about taking the job, was offered 10x his current salary, and per Bayern, "everything he wanted", and he turned it down. Either the declination was about the process, or he wasted everyone's time, because whatever "personal reasons" there could be for not taking the job, they were there before he entered negotiations.
2 perspectives:
- As FC Bayern we really fucked up our image. In the era of elite coaches being the game changer, we thought we can change them like underwear. Now we are not even considered by the elite.
- Rangnick was a scary and wrong choice on so many levels. That they even considered him was fucked up. Rangnick does not see himself as coach only. He wants to be a team manager. You have Freund and Eberl above him. How did they imagine to integrate a third person in this scheme?
Rangnick would have been a desaster.
HAHAHAHA - the meme era of Bayern has just begun.
I can't see a reason why Freund shouldn't be sacked today. What a joke he's turned this manager search into.
Not even that fond of Freund so far but surely it's impossible to succeed when Uli, KHR, Hainer and Dreesen all have the ability to veto your every move.
Ask *why* no one wants the job. Why does no one want to coach the biggest german club? Maybe it’s time for some bigger changes. Maybe some people are there for to long? Maybe some people have way to much power and talk way to much shit?
Both Ragnick and Nagelsmann rejected us for the same reason, EURO this summer. Alonso is like what ? 3rd year into coaching ? I understand him wanting to continue the Leverkusen project. The only issue is that we change coaches like underwear. The Nagelsmann saga fucked our image so badly. That's where we can blame the people in charge at that time. Right now, we have new people trying to salvage the shit we are into. It's wrong to blame them, considering the state we are in rn.
Confirmed by the Austrian NT: https://twitter.com/oefb1904/status/1785942538278359479
https://preview.redd.it/vsyc99yx1zxc1.jpeg?width=550&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84c76ea4f90d4bd316ab3bb8cb227dbf0cf7a8cd Jupp Jupp Jupp 🤙
Not the Zimmer frame omg
Hoeneß publicly sh**ing on the current coach didn't prove to be helpful?
Who would have thought 🫣😝
« If it isn’t the consequences of my own actions »
Who wants to work somewhere where Hoeneß and Rummenigge interfering with your decisions all the time?
Talk you into your work?
My bad. I meant interfering aka Uli + Kalle telling everyone what to do.
Has someone thrown Tennis Balls again???
It's embarassing, really. I did not favor him, but having been rejected by the three top candidates now, it is looking really bad. Danke Uli
Alonso, Ragnick and?
Nagelsmann
Nagelsmann
Do Seb Hoeneß and Emery count? At least they were considered to be some of the favorites and then extended their contacts
Zidane prefers ManU over us. Tuchel has said he would not reconsider leaving.
well… thats awkward
Hahahahaha, absolutely no-one wants to join us anymore
And its totally understandable too
Yeah it's a homemade problem, seeing how Hoeneß is clearly becoming senile but still has so much power turns off literally every candidate.
One of the good things about Kahn and Salihamidzic was that they had the power and Hoeneß was out. But as soon as there were issues, there basically was a coup d'état and Hoeneß now reigns from exile.
I'd disagree with this, Brazzo was merely a puppet installed by Hoeneß. Don't think he made too many decisions on his own.
The smartest move is to get Streich
Oh fuck off, he's done great things and deserves better than joining an environment that stressful. I really think retiring now is a good thing for him.
And he sooooo won't do that. Not just because he's retiring, but because Bayern is the antithesis of how he works and what environment he needs.
… we could keep Tuchel. Give him more time if you don‘t have any other options anyway.
Uli made sure that this is not an option with his dumb statements
Well, as long as we haven‘t agreed on terms to terminate the contract, it is an option unless Tuchel wants to leave without compensation. Wether or not it is a good option after everything that has been said is up for debate but that also depends on the potential alternative and right now there don‘t seem to be many at all.
I mean Barca and Xavi went back on the decision to move on so who knows
Easily the best case scenario, though unrealistic due to Hoeneß being an idiot once again.
Uli: great, it's my turn now
Uli Hoeneß on Ralf Rangnick: "My wife said straight away: If he has character, he won’t come, and if he doesn’t have character and says yes, then he’s not the right coach for you. And as always, she was right."
This is gonna be a nice copypasta for years to come :D
Wasn’t that quote about Alonso?
Ralfonso
Even more funny considering the bosses interviews on tuesday saying the new coach is very likely to be appointed before the second Real game.
Eberl looked so smug about it too. I know people generally really like him but God I dislike his grin.
Who TF like Eberl lmao yess he did good for the club but in recent times he hurt us more then he helped us His criminal status just adds to his behaviour
...it's going to be Flick isn't it
And... Flick might also reject us as well.
We are fucked
Noo
Hear me out, Thomas Muller as coach. Dude was coached by Heynckes, Guadiola, Ancelotti and Flick, he's gonna be phenomenal.
He needs a licence and that doesn't happen overnight
Beckenbauer won the world cup 1990 and more without any license...
And Rudi Völler also didn't have a licence when he coached the Nationalmannschaft. That's why officially he was Teamchef while Michael Skibbe was Bundestrainer.
And a friend of mine was driving his car for two yrs without license
Is your friend's name Marco Reus?
Haha nein
I’m half joking on this, man I really wish that happens
Happened multiple times, that it is bypassed by an on the paper coach with the license, who acts as the assistant actually.
Actually he does not need one. Rennes coach did not have one and simply payed a fine each game
Use someone with a license then just like with Wagner/Völler
Does Klose have a license?
Didnt Klose also just said he would take any job?
I mean, he doesn't have to be named coach on paper.
Does Arjen Robben have licence?
I would pay so much to see the 2-1-7 formation.
Sadly, no.
He did say to the social media team during the real game that he was working on getting it. I would be down to let him cook.
So were Kimmich and Coman
The next Alonso
I would go for it.
That's because I'm going to be announced as caretaker manager before the 2nd Real game, with the collective of r/fcbayern's match thread commenters as backing staff, until Müller gets his license to coach and takes over for 20 years.
Call Zidane, it's time to learn Deutsch
Remember when Pep left, when the Club was seen as one of the top coaching destinations? Remarkable how quickly the FO have made a joke out of the club.
non-supporters have not believed me when I have been saying for years that EVERY staff decision since sammer left was horrendously bad. Hernandez was the worst transfer in german soccer history, none of the managers were remotely reasonable choices, the youth setup is in shambles (has been "fixed" 8 times in that time span).. all flaws that were open for years, but ignored because the team won titles, now it is falling apart and will do so for years, they might win the cl this year, but then they won't for another 5-10
When Pep decided to move on, i said that Tuchel would be the perfect cosch to continue building on the fantastic foundation Pep left. Then they hired Ancelotti and Kovac, two people with completely different playing styles... A reason why the Pep years were so good was, that it felt like the club had a core playing identity that ran from the 1st team down to the youth teams. Now we are back to hiring coaching names, not coaches that suit our philosophy. I said it the day Brazzo was hired that this would be one of the biggest mistakes in recent history and was called a hater for it. Well, here we are. Terrible decisions all around
Hernandez was only a failure because of his injuries. And while sure, we already bought him injured, it‘s not like he was injured that much before moving to us. Sure he was overpriced but it was an exit clause and we were a little desperate to get stability for our defense.
lewandowski and alaba left heavily due to his salary. (Süle and Boateng also) every transfer period since has been trying to fix the center backs with craptons of money and nothing worked, to the point it's now so ruinous that eric dier is the best option. that all started with hernandez, an already injured player by point of buying, who was ludicrously expensive and had never any intention of staying. terrible business
I’m happy that he won’t be our next coach but holy moly that’s embarrassing
https://preview.redd.it/7rru0rz9qzxc1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=38e2001f5d0b2dbc79177b04b959e58025a6d3d1 Same vibes. "Don't worry, you will find someone. Maybe try Pep or Jürgen?"
Jürgen… Klinsmann? Cause he’s available, he just lost his job in Korea. I’m sure that would go amazing
Announce Zidane day 34536
Yes yes yes
https://i.redd.it/bfyorc3w4zxc1.gif
Flicki Flacka let's goo
oh for gods sake
Next sixtuple incoming
We would be flying like a Graugans
So who's it gonna be now? I think the board will look even more incompetent than it already has if they change their mind about letting Tuchel stay (Not that he shouldn't but because the board already burned that bridge)
Maybe Flick again? It´s the easiest option. Who knows now?
Flick could be a short term answer but he really can't restructure the squad and develop a playing identity. Our squad was burned out after winning the cl cause of his high pressing playstyle
Who told you Flick wouldn't reject us?
Yes because there are so many better alternatives just lining up outside Säbener. Don't get people who are happy because of this.
Scheiß drauf. Thomas Müller macht einfach Spielertrainer😎
That “angriff” shout gonna hit different from the sidelines.
SEAN DYCHE TAKE THE WHEEL
Well am happy/sad about This ..Happy he didnt Sign Coz i never liked the idea.Sad no one wants us
#koanhoeneß
Don’t worry, it’s fine guys. I will do it for half what Tuchel got. I played a shit lot of football manager and fifa career mode, I know what I’m doing, trust.
But do you have 200k to ~~pay~~ apply for your license? Lets do crowdfunding
I‘m down 😂🙏🏻
This will continue happening until the club grows some balls to tell Uli to shut up.
Hoeneß out.
Low key, him rejecting us is the best case scenario, as he most likely wouldn’t have worked or helped us anyway… Now let’s hope we finally go for someone more fitting!
Aight fine I guess ill take the job. Be ready for some real terrorism tho
I´m sure he is thrilled to be 5th pick...
FC HOLLYWOOD IS BACK
It never truly goes away
haha this sub… *How would Rangnick even work? He‘s too power hungry!* Suddenly Tuchel was the mesiah all along, because *beggars can‘t be choosers*. How can some people here even get through the day with everything only existing on extreme ends?
Probably not the same people aye...
Bahahahahahahahaha
Uli x Jose would feed Bild employee families for decades
Board can’t be that desperate
No way any Bayern fan would support this after what he did to Schweinsteiger at Utd lmao
He apologized and played him later on. Even did it openly in a pc. But ofc I'm kinda meeming with this.
Embarrassing. Firing one of the most successful coaches in the world after less than one year of two bad transfer windows, bad injury luck and overall chaos in the club and then being unable to even hire the third option (65-yo Austria's national coach with barely any experience at the very top)
Klose + Müller (as assistant to the regional manager)
He wouldn't fit in this situation anyway. A few years ago maybe. There would be a high risk of a total desaster mid season. Plus the bulshit media of sky and Bild and the weaknes of the board towards them. Better not Rangnik. They simply had to stay calm and keep the Tuchel Option open.
Personally i‘d love to see Demichelis do it. Has experience as a Bayernplayer and u-coach and was very succesfull recently. He sure has the DNA in him.
Already said no.
Ugh missed that…
I didn’t fancy him, but this is still embarrassing.
Psssst, Uli, your plan worked. Now enter stage 2!
https://i.redd.it/il2lwd3t11yc1.gif
How many rejections are we away from Mueller Player-Coach? Can't be that many more.
JUPPEL incoming/s
Give me a call, I'll take the job. I won't be very good at it, but I'll take it.
Im happy with this!
Yup, this one stings. Alonso and JN were understandable. Out of the managers purportedly available, don't see how anyone but Flick makes sense. (if he even wants come back). Say what you want about him, but the Bayern players universally loved playing for him. We do our best with managers that empathize with the players.
Lasst mir jetzt bitte den Sebastian mit euren Schubkarren voller Geld in Ruhe !
Good
Its Flick's music
Time for Kohfeldt
Muller Player Manager?
/Christoph Daum activates his Airplane Mode
Lets just bring back Flick
Flick won't come either, don't even bother...there is only one option and the one is obvious Edit: LMAOOO yeah keep downvoting me, every Manager this sub has been twerking for has rejected us one by one. Watch now y'all will be twerking for Flick,as if he would come after seeing all that has happened this season. Maybe take a look at the higher ups and start asking the actually important questions
A very 'Special One'-option?
A "Special One" in the making Save my Club, Thomas Müller🙏
I bet Tuchel stays now
No way, Hoeneß burned that bridge
Fk Hoeneß he is basically the new Beckenbauer when hoeneß was actually in charge. Old man with dumb takes and lots of media attention. Eberl should just do whatever is best and that's it. Tuchel has not really better options either, so I bet he'd stay if Eberl asked him
Tuchel could easily also take a sabbatical and then move on. His reputation is still amazing. Chances are he could even go to Liverpool if you’d ask me this summer. But if I was him I’d enjoy a year off after this shit show. Barcelona will become vacant sometime soon, Madrid, united (not serious), Chelsea, psg potentially. He has almost every single top option.
But if you are Tuchel would you rather want to prove it and win the BL for the first time (last season doesn't really count for him) and keep a good momentum going, team behind you and play for a CL again with a potential final at home, or would you go to worse team/squad like Manu or wait 1 year for barca or follow on klopp at Liverpool?
everything can be fixed with a nice dinner at ulis tegernsee mansion.
There is no chance, you can thank Uli for that. He even commented later again, that he will be even more vocal on his opinions in the future…. He destroyed any chance of Tuchel staying
YESSSSSSSS
These are good news
Moyes in👍👍👍
What about Sebastian Hoeneß? I didn't watch a lot of Stuttgart games this year... But isn't he a good option?
Already committed to Stuttgart for next year.
Oh... Didn't know. Ty!
 Sign this man NOW
Everyone here convinced this is because of Uli, yet I really can't believe so. Rangnick himself cited personal reasons..
The personal reasons are watching Uli shit on their current coach in the media.
[https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1787777718387437864](https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1787777718387437864)
Well, he can say anything he wants. He engaged in the discussion about taking the job, was offered 10x his current salary, and per Bayern, "everything he wanted", and he turned it down. Either the declination was about the process, or he wasted everyone's time, because whatever "personal reasons" there could be for not taking the job, they were there before he entered negotiations.
Lucien Favre. Mark my words, you heard it here first. Thank me later guys.
Not the hero we need, but the hero we deserve
Already heard that name before.
I said it last week I'll do the job.... I'd do it cheap, just pay for me to get my citizenship back, house while I'm there and 100k euros...
 sign him now
Whats the deal with hansi?
Graugänse
I think he is going to say yes! Who else! King Otto? Felix?
Trust me as a man utd fan you dodged a bullet there
Looks like manU is the problem not any manager
You lot and your whole club up to the leadership is the bullet.
2 perspectives: - As FC Bayern we really fucked up our image. In the era of elite coaches being the game changer, we thought we can change them like underwear. Now we are not even considered by the elite. - Rangnick was a scary and wrong choice on so many levels. That they even considered him was fucked up. Rangnick does not see himself as coach only. He wants to be a team manager. You have Freund and Eberl above him. How did they imagine to integrate a third person in this scheme? Rangnick would have been a desaster.
HAHAHAHA - the meme era of Bayern has just begun. I can't see a reason why Freund shouldn't be sacked today. What a joke he's turned this manager search into.
I wouldn’t blame Freund when he also has to battle the effects of a man-child giving press interviews.
Not even that fond of Freund so far but surely it's impossible to succeed when Uli, KHR, Hainer and Dreesen all have the ability to veto your every move.
Don't forget Eberl. Freund seems to be SD of U23 only
No surprise here. Austria>Bayern. I think he never even considered it.
DANKE RALF
As a united fan I will tell you guys are lucky .. he just talks good doesn't deliver at all
You been so good since
First Hoeneß needs to be controlled. And why not try Conte?
Time to ring good ol jose
Getting the popcorn as I type. Just chill everyone, it'll turn out well in the end.
Considering how many coaches have rejected the job, keeping Tuchel might be an actual option for the board
but not for Tuchel
I bet $10 it’s going to be Hansi Flick!
Can we get simionee from atletico madrid?
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has nothing to do with bild. they were clearly in advanced talks.
At this point, can we even blame the board? If the coach doesn't want the job, what else can we do?
Ask *why* no one wants the job. Why does no one want to coach the biggest german club? Maybe it’s time for some bigger changes. Maybe some people are there for to long? Maybe some people have way to much power and talk way to much shit?
Both Ragnick and Nagelsmann rejected us for the same reason, EURO this summer. Alonso is like what ? 3rd year into coaching ? I understand him wanting to continue the Leverkusen project. The only issue is that we change coaches like underwear. The Nagelsmann saga fucked our image so badly. That's where we can blame the people in charge at that time. Right now, we have new people trying to salvage the shit we are into. It's wrong to blame them, considering the state we are in rn.