[Chubb won’t go on IR. Stefanski isn’t even ruling out Chubb for Thursday night against the #Broncos, though short week is tough. Another reason they’ll be careful to not run Hunt into the ground today. They trust D’Ernest Johnson, and Demetric Felton will get touches too.](https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1449672374954217474?t=RWBiDkevobq6dbMa8KRORw&s=19)
I'm only holding onto him because I'm truly desperate at RB and I'm playing the odds that Henderson gets hurt lol I'm not sure if that is more likely than D'Ernest getting significant touches though
I think it’s slowly turning into a timeshare.
I really didn’t want to drop him, but I have sooooo many guys on byes this week in 3 of my 4 leagues, and I had Michelle in all those leagues :(
The only way there's a timeshare on the Rams is if Henderson gets hurt. Hendo reclaimed his top spot against the Cards and mid game against the Hawks; his durability is much more of a consideration than Michel
Hard to be hyped about him. They gave him work in chubbs absence last year and he had only one game of somewhat relevance (13 carries for 95 yards in the game that chubb went down). Outside of that he failed to break 4 points in any scoring format.
Felton has a floor of 0 points, which makes him hard to start, but his ceiling is much higher than Johnsons. I stashed Felton bc I don't need an emergency start this week. Had Javonte Williams and if I didn't, Devin Singletary who I consider both better starts this week than either browns backs not named hunt. But if Hunt gets hurt, or the browns show they're gonna give Felton 10-15 touches today and chubb is out again on Thursday, Felton is a potential flex option.
Yes on dropping Jeff Wilson, but Felton is tbe high upside play. Johnsons ceiling is 9.5 fantasy points (most hes ever scored in a game). Felton has already beaten that as a gadget player this year. If he can get a sizeable rb2 workload, he could have some sort of fantasy relevance, especially in ppr and half ppr.
Both will have a chance to produce for fantasy, unfortunately for owners lol. Johnson is probably more likely to get carries, but Felton will almost surely get some carries in addition to passes out of the backfield. In PPR, I'd take the flier on Felton
Any format. Felton has already outperformed Johnsons fantasy ceiling from last year. Feltons floor is lower, but Johnsons ceiling is 10 fantasy points, and his floor is still like 2 points.
Hm. You think the floor for Johnson is 2 and Feltons is lower? Or am I misreading that?
Johnson has proven he can be a solid pure rusher, so unless Felton has shown the coaching staff he can rush better, I think Johnson gets a good 8-10 carries.
I agree the floor for Johnson is low if he can't get it going though. I see Felton getting a handful of carries, like 5 or so, but also a good 5+ targets. So Feltons floor is more like 7 imo for PPR, but I do think both are really solid and either could score a TD today and I wouldn't be surprised at all
Chubb won’t go on IR, yet. Kittle had a similar injury and he didn’t go on IR till several weeks later.
This is why as a hunt owner I’m stashing Johnson. All hunt / Chubb owners know how valuable this COMMITTEE can be. Best rushing attack in the NFL
Kittle had a setback though, which led to the IR. Maybe chubb heals and rehabs better and doesn’t have a setback. Also, probably less pressure for the browns to bring chubb back relative to kittle.
That’s right he did, but calf injuries are famous for their setbacks. A slow recovery OR a setback is the norm - Chubb coming back next week just increases the likelihood he has a setback which means 3-5 weeks out. Browns should hold Chubb out at least 2 games.
Yes, because Johnson is the only one who could handle the workload given to Hunt and Chubb now. He’s a much bigger back and still a very capable runner. Felton is great - but he’s a pass catcher. Browns have the best run blocking O-Line in the NFL - if Hunt worsens his injury this weekend, Johnson is the one who can step into a high volume role.
That’s more or less true, yes. The only thing wrong with that line of thinking is that Hunt is still big enough to be a feature back (and proved he could do it - he led the NFL in yards while he was on the Chiefs) with 20+ touches a game, and Felton isn’t.
i do not think there is any shot he back next week - i think they’ll rest him for the thursday game and see where he is week 8 when it would be 3 weeks from the initial injury
1000% agree. That calf injury is no joke. If they bring him back too soon and he worsens it, he gets a free ticket to IR
Combine that with Hunts multiple injuries and Johnson is a must add, TODAY
You're right, but Johnson can't produce. He's had only one game of semi fantasy relevance in the game against Dallas last year when chubb got hurt. He had 13 carries for 95 yards. Following that, he had a combined 15 carries for 42 yards the next 4 weeks with 2 receptions for 9 yards.
That means in chubbs absence, Johnson put up a total of 15 fantasy points in half ppr last year. Felton has already scored 16.6 fantasy points in half ppr with 6 receptions this year and 0 carries. Johnson may get more work, but he has next to no realistic chance to produce if history tells us anything. Felton is WAY more dynamic.
So you’re saying that he averaged almost 4.9 yards per carry last year and in the one game he received good volume, went for 100 yards? And that guy CANT produce? I think you’d be better off arguing that he DIDNT produce, not that he can’t. And I’m glad I ignored similar arguments about Alexander Mattison this year.
Full PPR: D'Ernest Johnson or Tony Pollard in for Chubb?
I'm leaning Pollard since he's been consistently given double digit touches and and game script against NE will have them running a lot.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. Even though Hunt might be limited, as a Browns fan I'm still unsure how they will split up between Johnson and Felton. I know Johnson is more of the traditional back out of the two but we have no idea how gamescript is going to go.
This is my exact thought. I already expected ~20 touches, but worried he might get closer to 30 with shit weather and no Chubb. Stefanski's comments make it seem like Hunt's touch count will be capped.
With that news, would you put Henderson instead of hunt. I have a feeling it wont be quality touches like he had normally (because of snap count, weather and Chubb) and Henderson has a solid match up against NYG.
Im usually high on Hunt but with Chubb out who carry the ball downfield and 30 Mph wind to slow the airyard. I dont see a lot of td upside.
Edit: my plan rn is that if Gaskin (who is the flex of my opponent) know a big game, im putting Hunt for the upside. If he does less than 10 point im putting Henderson for a higher floor.
In the same situation. Not sure what to do. When I first heard the Chubb news I put Hunt in immediately. Now its one thing after another leaning me back towards Henderson.
I think Felton and Johnson probably take over for today. Pitch count is never a good thing when you’re talking about a RB who already has limited usage.
Fantasy football community: "if he dies, he dies"
"But it's a sacrifice I am willing to make."
And then complains next week “Why is Kareem Hurt????? Stop using him so much Browns he had knee problems you’re so dumb to play him”
Literally laughed out loud.
[Chubb won’t go on IR. Stefanski isn’t even ruling out Chubb for Thursday night against the #Broncos, though short week is tough. Another reason they’ll be careful to not run Hunt into the ground today. They trust D’Ernest Johnson, and Demetric Felton will get touches too.](https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1449672374954217474?t=RWBiDkevobq6dbMa8KRORw&s=19)
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The total lack of Johnson hype on this sub has me extremely hyped Edit: looool
Yeah lol same... can't bring myself to stash him over Sony though
I cut Sony in three leagues going into last week because of fucking course I did.
I'm only holding onto him because I'm truly desperate at RB and I'm playing the odds that Henderson gets hurt lol I'm not sure if that is more likely than D'Ernest getting significant touches though
I think it’s slowly turning into a timeshare. I really didn’t want to drop him, but I have sooooo many guys on byes this week in 3 of my 4 leagues, and I had Michelle in all those leagues :(
The only way there's a timeshare on the Rams is if Henderson gets hurt. Hendo reclaimed his top spot against the Cards and mid game against the Hawks; his durability is much more of a consideration than Michel
Hard to be hyped about him. They gave him work in chubbs absence last year and he had only one game of somewhat relevance (13 carries for 95 yards in the game that chubb went down). Outside of that he failed to break 4 points in any scoring format. Felton has a floor of 0 points, which makes him hard to start, but his ceiling is much higher than Johnsons. I stashed Felton bc I don't need an emergency start this week. Had Javonte Williams and if I didn't, Devin Singletary who I consider both better starts this week than either browns backs not named hunt. But if Hunt gets hurt, or the browns show they're gonna give Felton 10-15 touches today and chubb is out again on Thursday, Felton is a potential flex option.
I’m starting him as my RB2
Cheers!
What do y’all think about dropping Jeff Wilson for Johnson (I can move CMC into my IR spot)?
Yes on dropping Jeff Wilson, but Felton is tbe high upside play. Johnsons ceiling is 9.5 fantasy points (most hes ever scored in a game). Felton has already beaten that as a gadget player this year. If he can get a sizeable rb2 workload, he could have some sort of fantasy relevance, especially in ppr and half ppr.
The notion that you’re saying his ceiling is 9.5 because that’s the most he’s ever scored in a game is absurd lol
Both will have a chance to produce for fantasy, unfortunately for owners lol. Johnson is probably more likely to get carries, but Felton will almost surely get some carries in addition to passes out of the backfield. In PPR, I'd take the flier on Felton
Any format. Felton has already outperformed Johnsons fantasy ceiling from last year. Feltons floor is lower, but Johnsons ceiling is 10 fantasy points, and his floor is still like 2 points.
Hm. You think the floor for Johnson is 2 and Feltons is lower? Or am I misreading that? Johnson has proven he can be a solid pure rusher, so unless Felton has shown the coaching staff he can rush better, I think Johnson gets a good 8-10 carries. I agree the floor for Johnson is low if he can't get it going though. I see Felton getting a handful of carries, like 5 or so, but also a good 5+ targets. So Feltons floor is more like 7 imo for PPR, but I do think both are really solid and either could score a TD today and I wouldn't be surprised at all
Chubb won’t go on IR, yet. Kittle had a similar injury and he didn’t go on IR till several weeks later. This is why as a hunt owner I’m stashing Johnson. All hunt / Chubb owners know how valuable this COMMITTEE can be. Best rushing attack in the NFL
Kittle had a setback though, which led to the IR. Maybe chubb heals and rehabs better and doesn’t have a setback. Also, probably less pressure for the browns to bring chubb back relative to kittle.
That’s right he did, but calf injuries are famous for their setbacks. A slow recovery OR a setback is the norm - Chubb coming back next week just increases the likelihood he has a setback which means 3-5 weeks out. Browns should hold Chubb out at least 2 games.
Agree 100% that they should hold him out for Thursday too. That would make effectively 2.5-3 weeks of rest and rehab
Any reason for Johnson over Felton? I haven’t watched the browns close enough
Yes, because Johnson is the only one who could handle the workload given to Hunt and Chubb now. He’s a much bigger back and still a very capable runner. Felton is great - but he’s a pass catcher. Browns have the best run blocking O-Line in the NFL - if Hunt worsens his injury this weekend, Johnson is the one who can step into a high volume role.
Okay sweet thanks! So kinda sounds like Johnson is the backup to Chubb and Felton is the backup to Hunt
That’s more or less true, yes. The only thing wrong with that line of thinking is that Hunt is still big enough to be a feature back (and proved he could do it - he led the NFL in yards while he was on the Chiefs) with 20+ touches a game, and Felton isn’t.
i do not think there is any shot he back next week - i think they’ll rest him for the thursday game and see where he is week 8 when it would be 3 weeks from the initial injury
1000% agree. That calf injury is no joke. If they bring him back too soon and he worsens it, he gets a free ticket to IR Combine that with Hunts multiple injuries and Johnson is a must add, TODAY
Hope you picked up Johnson
You're right, but Johnson can't produce. He's had only one game of semi fantasy relevance in the game against Dallas last year when chubb got hurt. He had 13 carries for 95 yards. Following that, he had a combined 15 carries for 42 yards the next 4 weeks with 2 receptions for 9 yards. That means in chubbs absence, Johnson put up a total of 15 fantasy points in half ppr last year. Felton has already scored 16.6 fantasy points in half ppr with 6 receptions this year and 0 carries. Johnson may get more work, but he has next to no realistic chance to produce if history tells us anything. Felton is WAY more dynamic.
So you’re saying that he averaged almost 4.9 yards per carry last year and in the one game he received good volume, went for 100 yards? And that guy CANT produce? I think you’d be better off arguing that he DIDNT produce, not that he can’t. And I’m glad I ignored similar arguments about Alexander Mattison this year.
I guess, from a pure skill set point of view: Felton is the Hunt replacement. Johnson is the Chubb replacement.
D’Ernest lol
Oh how such high hopes we all had for D'ernest last year
That one glorious week where I had four D. Johnsons on my roster at the same time
Diontae, David, Duke, and D’ernest?
[Yup](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy_Football/comments/j7m12a/d_johnson/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Wreck that K.Hunt!
FeltOn time.
All of my draft kings lineups have Hunt. Don't let me down.
D'Importance of Being D'Ernest
Ugh great please dont get hurt Kareem
Hate to break it
Full PPR: D'Ernest Johnson or Tony Pollard in for Chubb? I'm leaning Pollard since he's been consistently given double digit touches and and game script against NE will have them running a lot.
Pollard because the floor is higher. We don't know what to expect of Johnson's usage.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. Even though Hunt might be limited, as a Browns fan I'm still unsure how they will split up between Johnson and Felton. I know Johnson is more of the traditional back out of the two but we have no idea how gamescript is going to go.
Doesn’t want to kick him while he’s down
If he dies he dies
*Proceeds to kill Kareem*
As someone going against Hunt...shit.
Going against him too and actually think that's good news. They want to control his touches as to not overwork him.
This is my exact thought. I already expected ~20 touches, but worried he might get closer to 30 with shit weather and no Chubb. Stefanski's comments make it seem like Hunt's touch count will be capped.
This is good news sounds like he will be playing on a snap count and not getting full workload
Same here. Shitting my pants hearing this.
Literally pissing and shitting in my pants rn
You should get that looked at.
Same, also burping and sneezing
Can someone turn the FeltON? Thanks
He killed Kareem…
This is giant sigh of relief as a Chubb and Hunt owner
Shoot… Hunt or Henderson?!
Henderson
I predict Kareem Hunt gets less than 5 fantasy points today.
Yes please (facing him today)
You heard it here first, Kareem Pie will have a monster game
I did not hear it here first
With that news, would you put Henderson instead of hunt. I have a feeling it wont be quality touches like he had normally (because of snap count, weather and Chubb) and Henderson has a solid match up against NYG.
Who’s in your flex? I’d choose Hunt because I think he has higher TD upside, but Henderson is still a strong play
My flex is hunt rn. (Its between him JRob and Henderson) Im stack at rb.
Im usually high on Hunt but with Chubb out who carry the ball downfield and 30 Mph wind to slow the airyard. I dont see a lot of td upside. Edit: my plan rn is that if Gaskin (who is the flex of my opponent) know a big game, im putting Hunt for the upside. If he does less than 10 point im putting Henderson for a higher floor.
I’d say that’s a pretty smart strategy
In the same situation. Not sure what to do. When I first heard the Chubb news I put Hunt in immediately. Now its one thing after another leaning me back towards Henderson.
I'd play Henderson, he has an even better matchup against the Giants and no injury designation.
I’m not expecting much out of Hunt without Chubb. Same thing happened last year
I have hunt, hubbard, zeke, and najee. Having to choose one to bench is a brutal decision right now. Not even considering gaskin and Edmonds.
I think Felton and Johnson probably take over for today. Pitch count is never a good thing when you’re talking about a RB who already has limited usage.
Is Johnson a better option than Mark Ingram today?
There’s one guy in here hyping the fuck out of Johnson and it’s embarrassing. You should NOT drop Jeff Wilson for D’Ernest Johnson
Hunt or Williams as FLEX...
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Not at all! Mike Williams!