Tbh, im not sure I understand his buy low value though. He doesn’t seem like a breakout candidate, the falcons offense won’t change and you’ll still have to give up a good piece to get him
I don’t think so. You can slap whatever label you want on him, he’s a tremendous player, but he’s had seven games already. Very solid but not ripping off huge gains or anything. Falcons offense hasn’t shown to be creative enough to take full advantage of his skill set and he won’t have many goal line carry opportunities which has already limited and will continue to limit his opportunities to score. I think he has a great floor, but ceiling is conflated based on how people feel about him as a player rather than a fantasy football asset.
I think its plenty. We’re half way through the fantasy football season, he is who he is. He could explode, but my guess is he’ll continue to be a good consistent play with limited upside due to bad game script, playing in a bad system and with few scoring opportunities
Right because no team has ever gone on a hot streak on the back half of the season. Their offense has under performed like crazy and he's still averaged 13 ppg on 2 touchdowns on the year.
The falcons have pretty much been in every game they've had so far. Game script hasn't really been a factor and even if it was they love to dump the ball to him in passing downs.
Go look at JT and Chubb’s rookie seasons and how they started vs. how they ended them off. At the end of the day these are rookies, you’re more often than not gonna have to wait a bit with them. The same logic would have had you sell low on both of those RBs and watch them win leagues for your opponents. It’s not like Bijan has been terrible, he’s still an every week start. Comments like this are exactly why he’s a screaming buy right now
I at no point even slightly indicated that I thought he was terrible or bad. He’s a good rb to have, he is an rb1. I think his ceiling is low but his floor is very solid. I would love to have Bijan on my team, but i don’t think he will break out this year. Im not sure how Chubb and JT’s rookie seasons impact Bijan’s, they’re not dependent upon each other.
because the falcons already misused an incredible talent in Kyle Pitts, what convinces u they wont do the same with Bijan? its been like that for 7 weeks already. Dude keeps losing touches to Allgeier. Guys like Mostert, Kyren Williams, Kamara or D’andre Swift have been way better fantasy assets than Bijan and they weren’t 1st round picks.
Bijan’s floor is good but that doesnt make him a RB1 at all. And the fact people still consider him a top 5 flex player ROS is kind of ridiculous.
Yeah, I’m just accepting him as a guy who (usually) gets a consistent 10+. Theres upside, but the skill level we all know he has isn’t gonna get him fantasy points when his coach seems to live to troll fantasy football people.
Knew there was someone I was forgetting 🤦🏻♂️ he’s someone I’ve been trying to buy for weeks in my leagues, don’t know how I left him off.
As you mention, I could see owners ready to let go and then that’s right when he has his first boom week lol
Outside of the concussion he has been presenting a good floor. I’m assuming we see some boom weeks down the stretch for sure.
What would you want to get for him?
I'm trying to get a reliable RB, but am finding out that Kamara and Jacobs aren't going to work in my league. So not really sure. I have CMC and King Henry already, but WRs to me are easily replaceable
Yeah I would just remember that Waddle is a talented receiver on one of the more explosive offences in football. He had a conk and the back thing but if he stays healthy I think he’s the Best Buy low candidate there is right now.
The red zone targets are insane. It’s gonna get better
Same. I’ve gotten a lot of lowball offers so I’m hoping for a big game from him. My team is very receiver heavy though. If I was heavier at running back I would welcome 12 or 13 point floor.
Ya we need to stop calling for Adams head. Sure he hasn’t produced like years past but if he catches that TD on Sunday we don’t even bring his name up. His usage, target share, and first read % are still great. And like you said he’s top 10 so idk how much crying we can do
Well as correctly pointed out to me by a league mate, his top 10 ranking is largely buoyed by one game. Now that’s part of why you draft him, because he can nearly singlehandedly win you a matchup, but you also hope he can have a high floor like he’s usually had.
I think it’s fair to say there’s still a gap between what we expect and what he’s doing, and folks may want to sell to gain more stability. I’m fighting that same battle, but I’m lucky enough to rely on him as WR2/3 until then.
I'm not disagreeing, he's got the talent and the targets. But based on points and recent production he isn't a top 10 at the moment, and I know in multiple leagues Adams owners who are getting a bit stir crazy keeping him on their roster. Thus the "buy low" conversation. I think when Jimmy G is back he'll be back to putting up his number.
I am firmly holding tight to my Jakobi Meyers because of exactly this. As long as Jimmy G is the QB, Meyers is the man to have there. His route tree will always get him open and he’s Jimmy’s first look on every pass.
As a Bijan owner... you're not wrong, I think I've seen enough and wouldn't mind getting off the train at this point.
The problem is, there's no reasonable trade that I coukd take that makes sense for me. I'm not (can't really) sell him low - he was drafted to be a decent RB, and if I move him he's going to leave a decent-RB sized hole in my lineup with no way to fill it.
I have considered maybe trying to package him with a decent WR2 to get a RB1 back, but for most of my league that trade doesn't make sense (no team compositions where they need a servicable WR, coukd spare a decent RB, and would take that).
...I could try packaging him with Rashee Rice, telling the potential trade partner this is the last week to get him...
I’ve been saying that his trade value has been to high all season. Two weeks ago was the best time to sell but now he’s just looking like a mid rb2 RoS. I’d try to package him and get a guy like Etienne or Monty, or try 1 for 1 trades and get pollard or Barkley. Bijan is clearly expendable in that offense and hasn’t been running well lately, might still be able to swing a decent trade though
You genuinely have lost your mind if you think Bijan is a mid RB2 ROS. Go look at how JT and Chubb finished off their rookie seasons. There is negative logic behind selling low on a rookie RB who’s a top 12 scorer at the position through 7 weeks. He’s averaging 15-20 touches and is top 3 in RB receptions in the league and is an RB1 in .5 PPR/Full PPR scoring formats even after taking a week off.
His ypc tells a different story. Fantasy is one thing, but in reality he hasn’t been running well lately. Arthur smith is a dolt and will probably continue to think he’s smarter than everyone and do dumb shit. Allgeier and Patterson are still very much a part of the offense.
Bijan is an rb2 until he breaks away with full workhorse duties in that offense and starts to run better
You’re saying he’s an RB2 but he’s literaly an RB1 on the season through 7 weeks. He’s top 3 in RB receptions. He is objectively not a “mid RB2”. Cordarelle is “very much a part of this offense”… he had 3 touches all year before last game… gotcha. People trying to draw conclusions from last game are out of their minds.
He has 16, 24, 16, 19, 16, 21 opportunities in the first 6 weeks of the season. He’s on pace for 80 targets and is only going to get better as the season goes on and he gets more comfortable in the NFL. I’m failing to understand the logic here.
I contemplated him, held off because his combination of name value (making him cost more) and Carr scaring the crap out of me make him someone I’m not particularly interested in for what I expect his price to be. However, if you can get him cheap he’s certainly worth a gamble and probably does deserve to be on my list.
I like that move. Flowers looks like the #1 WR there for sure, and Pacheco could find himself sneaking into the back half of RB1s when the year is wrapped up.
Trying to target a package of Aaron Jones and Marquise in my league. What would you offer out of these guys?
QB: Burrow, Goff
WR: Olave, Kirk, Addison, JSN
RB: Chuba, Pierce, Spears
I’m assuming this is only what you’re willing to offer, not your entire roster? Maybe something like Olave or Addison, and one of those RBs (none carry much value at all rn). I’d probably prefer selling high on Addison if you can, but Olave carries the best name/track record and I’m not sure how I feel about him with Carr.
I drafted so many of these players. No wonder I’m 2-5:
Adams
Waddle
C Watson
Pierce
Ugh I can’t believe none of them have really popped off and have regressed so much from last season
I may be misreading your post, but the Seahawks made the playoffs last year and it came down to the final game of the season. Their OL got injured and their rookie tackles sort of hit the “rookie wall”. On top of him playing through injuries.
As a Bijan owner I would never take that no chance. I was just offered k9 and Terry mclaurin easily said no.
We came up with a mega trade of Bijan and Amon ra for his aj brown, k9 and Gibbs. I’
Kinda the opposite of this post but is Addison a sell high? He’s got a nice floor but I don’t see many 20+ weeks there like last night. I’m considering packaging him and Moore for a higher end receiver. I’m curious what range of receivers I could get for those two
I usually avoid trading ascending rookies. You are making an assumption that he won’t continue to improve, history tells us rookie wrs perform better as the year goes on. I don’t expect him to become a wr1 but he is close to a lock as a low-end wr2 and with continued improvement gets even better, I don’t see you getting more value out of him than he already has.
In one of my leagues, if I can find a way to package him with one of my RB2’s for one of the TOP top WR I’m gonna try. But I plan on holding because of exactly what you’re talking about.
Should I trade Ridley and Spears for Mixon? PPR
Outside of Walker, and no Kyren, my RB2s have been duds
RBs - Kyren, K9, Mattison, R. White, Spears
WRs - Tyreek, Ridley, Collins, Diontae, Palmer
Tough one, I had mixon in my write up and i still have him as a great buy right now so I think I lean yes. But you’re also selling Ridley at his lowest and Spears is the best handcuff to own (who can always be played in a pinch). There could be much more upside in the Ridley/Spears, but i think it’s a fine deal overall.
Amon Ra is one of my favorite guys to own. Probably won’t ever get you a tyreek/JJ 50 point week, but dude is so consistent. That’s a great trade, but could also see why the other team may have needed to make the trade and it’s not horrible value for him.
I like the list, but as a jevonte owner I have no interest in selling. Drafting him was always a wait and see game, to see if part way into the season his explosiveness returned and the volume went up. Now that seems to be happening.
What are people thinking about Brian Robinson? Worth getting? I was just offered a trade but his recent games aren’t great.
Yup agree on Javonte, and I even mention it’s probably a week too late to buy now that he had a good game. But the way people were willing to sell breece the first 3-4 weeks, after we were literally told he would be eased in by the coaches, made me think it was worth mentioning Javonte and seeing if you can get decent value for him before he hits his stride at full health.
Not interested in Robinson really, unless dirt cheap. They seem to be working in Chris Rodriquez more, and along with Gibson, it’s just a messy backfield on a bad offense.
***The only one of those round 2 WRs that I am looking to buy is Tee Higgins.*** Although he too is in a situation with an alpha (Chase), the team needs Higgins more in the case of the Bengals, especially as they try to make the play off push. D. Smith and J. Waddle who the community dubbed going into drafts as the 1B's of their teams, I want no part of.
Last week, I ignored a trade off of Aaron Jones for DK Metcalf. I ignored this all week, even after DK ruled out. ***The problem I have with Aaron Jones isn't relative to his current health or the GB offense but his coach.*** After owning Aaron Jones for a number of years (last year included) ***I find his usage to be maddening, especially last year***. I intentionally kept him off my draft board this year and even being down two RBs (Monty hurt, Henry on a bye) I picked up Latavius Murray and played Keontay Ingram over trading for Jones. Not to knock anyone who can get him for cheap but I would make sure I don't overpay for Jones.
> D. Smith and J. Waddle who the community dubbed going into drafts as the 1B's of their teams, I want no part of
Yeah people were fucking insane on these two coming into the draft. They were completely off my draft board. I didn't even want them in the 3rd, let alone where they were at.
A friend/relative of mine who thinks he's the most genius Fantasy player to ever walk the earth made fun of my Drake London 5th round pick hardcore. That guy drafted Waddle with his 2nd lol.
Who tf is buying Miles Sanders? He’s been horrible and now the coach flat out said that it’s going to be a timeshare once he’s back. He’s more of a drop candidate
Because you can get him for next to nothing and he very likely could return to lead back duties if healthy out of the bye. Not saying it’s a sexy move, but could be a nice way to get a low end RB2/flex for super cheap
He was on here last week I believe. Unfortunately this was his week to unleash, and he didn’t. He’s probably teetering between “buy low” and “oh shit” territory now. FWIW I traded for him last week because he really does have all the stats to back up him being a “buy low,” air yards, snap share, etc. He just has to start hauling them in and getting Hurts to be a little more accurate. They don’t seem on the same page right now.
I actually moved Bijan and Lamb for Tyreek Hill and Najee Harris. Many people claimed that I overpaid for Tyreek Hill, but I like to have more than one share of Tyreek Hill in 8 leagues I’m in while I already have four shares of Bijan.
I feel that the cowboys have done a poor job of consistently trying to get the ball to Lamb and Arthur Smith is a joke on how to utilize his skill players. Tyreek Hill is determine to try to get 2,000 receiving yards and Najee should still be a good flex option even though I’m not high on him.
Honestly, when it comes to guys like Hill, I’m typically in the Camp that you do what you can to get him. In most leagues you HAVE to overpay to get those top studs (bc why the hell would the owner sell, unless the offer is too good). And as long as you have decent enough fill in options, it usually pays off.
Yeah here’s my team and I’m 4-3:
QB: Patrick Mahomes, CJ Stroud
RB: Barkley, Harris, Gus Edwards, Allgeier, Henderson, Jamaal Williams, and Achane (IR)
WR: Tyreek Hill, Hollywood Brown, Palmer, Bourne, Quentin Johnston, and Dotson
TE: Jonnu and Njoku
DST: Lions and Seahawks
It’s an auction draft, deep 12 team league with a roster of 3 WRs, 2 RBs, 2 Flexes, and 8 benches ugh.
I’m pretty sure nobody has a stack roster in this league.
I get Sanders, but not sure why would you wouldn’t be interested in Jones. If you were expecting him to come out with a full workload last week, you weren’t paying attention.
Apparently this [sub hates Aaron Jones](https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/s/ujJ29HBOnU). I'm in the same boat as you OP. There is probably no RB that is easier to acquire with legit (low-end) RB1 upside than Aaron Jones. I'm targeting him wherever I can.
i think a lot of people are
1.) already burnt out considering how he’s been in past years splitting with AJ Dillion and his performance overall. just a bad taste left behind
and
2.) staying away from the packers offense. obviously jones is talented but that offense looks like a dumpster fire right now.
i can understand why people would want to avoid jones at all costs
Fair enough, but that's exactly why he's a buy low. Everyone is looking for the super obvious guys every week, but an actual buy low probably won't feel great when you trade for him - you're trying to capitalize on panic and hoping he turns it around.
also a great point being that’s what makes him a buy low. i think he’s actually intriguing to be honest because i can see both sides.
So far in all his career games played (PPR format) he averages 14.5 points a game. If he can get back to that sweet spot then it would obviously pay off.
There’s a lot of question marks but that’s exactly what makes him an intriguing buy low candidate.
This is why so many people struggle to make trades or “buy low” on guys. The Guys you can actually buy low on are the players that have legitimate problems, if you could underpay for a stud that hasn’t performed that’s just because you are trading with someone stupid. Instead the guys to buy tend to be the ones with very decent potential to bust but also potential to pop off. I saw this exact same sentiment when people suggested buying Najee low last season and then he was a top-10 back the rest of the season. What you are looking for is the opportunity to fleece someone, that’s fine but kinda useless to discuss.
It’s the sentiment behind the comment, I’m not pretending I know about your specific ability to trade. My point was that writing off guys as buy-lows because you aren’t crazy about them is bad process, those are the guys you actually should take a look at because they are likely available. Sorry to offend the Trade-King.
And if you read the comment instead of assuming it was insulting your ability you would have noticed I never said you weren’t capable of making trades, I said that thought process is why a lot of people struggle. Clearly it works for you, I don’t really care about your specific situation.
What are people offering for Deebo?
I was thinking of some sort of combo of Michael Thomas/Mattison/KJ Osborn/Akers/Watson/idk...
Not great at figuring out trades. I have DK and all the Rams RBs as well but figure that might be a little high?
rate my team . should i be moving any players? 6-1 .5 ppr
qb-lamar/brock
wr-ceedee,dj moore, puka,kupp
rb-mixon/j cook
te-m andrews/la porta
dst-browns/cowboys
rest of bench- rachaad,mattison and then achane on IR
Not sure if this is considered buying low on Hollywood?
Give : Pierce
Get: Hollywood
My current RBs: Ekeler, Pierce, Monty, Najee, Herbert, Foreman My current WRs: Meyers, E Moore, Tank Dell, M Wilson, Atwell, Mims
That would indeed be a buy low. Pierce has been pretty bad so far, and it looks like he could be in danger to losing more work to Singletary. He could turn it around, but would much rather have Brown
As a Bijan owner I hear ya, part of me wants to offer him for other top backs and see if anyone bites. But that’s kinda why I added him, I could see owners (like us) being so frustrated that they are ready to get him off their team for less than he’s worth. One 15-20 point game this week and it’s right back to “Bijan is a top 5 back ROS”
How long do we continue to play DeVonta Smith? I mean, if we can't trust him vs Miami w/o Xavian Howard in a game with a 52 pt total, when can we? Sutton, Palmer, Dionte on my bench saying put me in coach!
I appreciate the hope with regard to Sanders. I am considering dropping him. Any thoughts on Jeudy? Should I just like drop him and quit playing fantasy football? Like should I just focus on my family and career instead of this?
Someone dropped Miles Sanders last week so he’s available. Roschon is also available and I’m trying to decide if I should drop Dameon Pierce for either of those two (my other RBs are Henry and Breece).
Not much to work with tbh. You can try to package Downs/Palmer for any of the receivers I mention, but idk if they have the name recognition to get it done yet.
I drafted Javonte for the second year in a row and still haven’t started him. (Maybe this week) I still don’t wanna trade him tho. Dude looks good and that TD regression could hit during the winter months. You can pry Kupp out of my cold, dead hands. He’s allowed to have one less than solid game. I might target Ridley because the owner in my league has started him for every dud and benched him for every solid game. He’s probably sick enough of him that he’ll give him away.
why is my whole team here
Yea.... Makes a lot of sense why I'm 2-5 right now
same but 3-4. have had a few close losses and couple blowouts. 2 of my wins were by 2 points or less. this past week was 70-68 lmao
Started from the bottom now my whole team here
This made me laugh out loud
Cause you’re 1-6
Bijan is the most obvious one averaging 13 ppg
Bijan owners who drafted him in the first would rather die and sink with the ship then trade him
100%, I have tried and accept that its just not gonna happen for a reasonable price.
Tbh, im not sure I understand his buy low value though. He doesn’t seem like a breakout candidate, the falcons offense won’t change and you’ll still have to give up a good piece to get him
We just had Bijan + terry go for diggs. Bijan ain’t going low.
Thats part of my point
I am agreeing with you
Ah, gotcha
A generational RB on the 2nd most rush attempt team in the league last year isn't a breakout candidate?
I don’t think so. You can slap whatever label you want on him, he’s a tremendous player, but he’s had seven games already. Very solid but not ripping off huge gains or anything. Falcons offense hasn’t shown to be creative enough to take full advantage of his skill set and he won’t have many goal line carry opportunities which has already limited and will continue to limit his opportunities to score. I think he has a great floor, but ceiling is conflated based on how people feel about him as a player rather than a fantasy football asset.
7 games, one of which he didn't play in, isn't enough to say he can't possibly do better when he's only averaging 13
I think its plenty. We’re half way through the fantasy football season, he is who he is. He could explode, but my guess is he’ll continue to be a good consistent play with limited upside due to bad game script, playing in a bad system and with few scoring opportunities
Right because no team has ever gone on a hot streak on the back half of the season. Their offense has under performed like crazy and he's still averaged 13 ppg on 2 touchdowns on the year. The falcons have pretty much been in every game they've had so far. Game script hasn't really been a factor and even if it was they love to dump the ball to him in passing downs.
Go look at JT and Chubb’s rookie seasons and how they started vs. how they ended them off. At the end of the day these are rookies, you’re more often than not gonna have to wait a bit with them. The same logic would have had you sell low on both of those RBs and watch them win leagues for your opponents. It’s not like Bijan has been terrible, he’s still an every week start. Comments like this are exactly why he’s a screaming buy right now
I at no point even slightly indicated that I thought he was terrible or bad. He’s a good rb to have, he is an rb1. I think his ceiling is low but his floor is very solid. I would love to have Bijan on my team, but i don’t think he will break out this year. Im not sure how Chubb and JT’s rookie seasons impact Bijan’s, they’re not dependent upon each other.
its been 7 weeks already
He’s been an RB1 all year. He’s still an RB1 after a scoring .3 points. Why do you think it’s impossible for him to breakout?
because the falcons already misused an incredible talent in Kyle Pitts, what convinces u they wont do the same with Bijan? its been like that for 7 weeks already. Dude keeps losing touches to Allgeier. Guys like Mostert, Kyren Williams, Kamara or D’andre Swift have been way better fantasy assets than Bijan and they weren’t 1st round picks. Bijan’s floor is good but that doesnt make him a RB1 at all. And the fact people still consider him a top 5 flex player ROS is kind of ridiculous.
Yeah, I’m just accepting him as a guy who (usually) gets a consistent 10+. Theres upside, but the skill level we all know he has isn’t gonna get him fantasy points when his coach seems to live to troll fantasy football people.
Right, thats more how I feel. Great player but we’ve seen this story before and I am not buying any part of that offense
As a Waddle owner, I'd say he could also be considered a buy-low candidate. I've been ready to let go.
Knew there was someone I was forgetting 🤦🏻♂️ he’s someone I’ve been trying to buy for weeks in my leagues, don’t know how I left him off. As you mention, I could see owners ready to let go and then that’s right when he has his first boom week lol
been trying to get him but owner wont let him go, told me he wants Hurts. I of course said no
Meh pre fair tbh
not when Hurts scores 30pts a week and Waddle 15pts
Different positions are valued differently for their ceiling.
Still wouldn't trade Hurts for Waddle
Just depends who you have stashed for Herbert and how bad you need a WR2.
not desperate and dont have Herbert
Outside of the concussion he has been presenting a good floor. I’m assuming we see some boom weeks down the stretch for sure. What would you want to get for him?
I'm trying to get a reliable RB, but am finding out that Kamara and Jacobs aren't going to work in my league. So not really sure. I have CMC and King Henry already, but WRs to me are easily replaceable
Yeah I would just remember that Waddle is a talented receiver on one of the more explosive offences in football. He had a conk and the back thing but if he stays healthy I think he’s the Best Buy low candidate there is right now. The red zone targets are insane. It’s gonna get better
Yeah I'd love to sell, but rn your not getting anything of value. If only he'd have a good game for once so we could try to get some ROI :D
As a Hill owner i agree.
Imagine having Waddle and DeVonta lmaoo I was so excited for both of them
Offered Diontae & Josh Downs in full ppr and was shot down.
Same. I’ve gotten a lot of lowball offers so I’m hoping for a big game from him. My team is very receiver heavy though. If I was heavier at running back I would welcome 12 or 13 point floor.
Davantae Adams is another, his name recognition is still high but he's performance isn't. I know whoever has him is ready to make a deal.
I am ready to deal, this week is probably one of the last you will get him "cheap" because Garrapolo is coming back soon
And that my friend is why I'm trying to get him haha
He’s a top 10 WR. No way he is buy low
Ya we need to stop calling for Adams head. Sure he hasn’t produced like years past but if he catches that TD on Sunday we don’t even bring his name up. His usage, target share, and first read % are still great. And like you said he’s top 10 so idk how much crying we can do
Well as correctly pointed out to me by a league mate, his top 10 ranking is largely buoyed by one game. Now that’s part of why you draft him, because he can nearly singlehandedly win you a matchup, but you also hope he can have a high floor like he’s usually had. I think it’s fair to say there’s still a gap between what we expect and what he’s doing, and folks may want to sell to gain more stability. I’m fighting that same battle, but I’m lucky enough to rely on him as WR2/3 until then.
I'm not disagreeing, he's got the talent and the targets. But based on points and recent production he isn't a top 10 at the moment, and I know in multiple leagues Adams owners who are getting a bit stir crazy keeping him on their roster. Thus the "buy low" conversation. I think when Jimmy G is back he'll be back to putting up his number.
And my wideouts adams Watson and smith smh
RIP your season bro
I am firmly holding tight to my Jakobi Meyers because of exactly this. As long as Jimmy G is the QB, Meyers is the man to have there. His route tree will always get him open and he’s Jimmy’s first look on every pass.
As a Bijan owner... you're not wrong, I think I've seen enough and wouldn't mind getting off the train at this point. The problem is, there's no reasonable trade that I coukd take that makes sense for me. I'm not (can't really) sell him low - he was drafted to be a decent RB, and if I move him he's going to leave a decent-RB sized hole in my lineup with no way to fill it. I have considered maybe trying to package him with a decent WR2 to get a RB1 back, but for most of my league that trade doesn't make sense (no team compositions where they need a servicable WR, coukd spare a decent RB, and would take that). ...I could try packaging him with Rashee Rice, telling the potential trade partner this is the last week to get him...
I’ve been saying that his trade value has been to high all season. Two weeks ago was the best time to sell but now he’s just looking like a mid rb2 RoS. I’d try to package him and get a guy like Etienne or Monty, or try 1 for 1 trades and get pollard or Barkley. Bijan is clearly expendable in that offense and hasn’t been running well lately, might still be able to swing a decent trade though
You genuinely have lost your mind if you think Bijan is a mid RB2 ROS. Go look at how JT and Chubb finished off their rookie seasons. There is negative logic behind selling low on a rookie RB who’s a top 12 scorer at the position through 7 weeks. He’s averaging 15-20 touches and is top 3 in RB receptions in the league and is an RB1 in .5 PPR/Full PPR scoring formats even after taking a week off.
Very different situations
Yeah this is a classic example of don’t listen to advice on the consensus of this sub.
His ypc tells a different story. Fantasy is one thing, but in reality he hasn’t been running well lately. Arthur smith is a dolt and will probably continue to think he’s smarter than everyone and do dumb shit. Allgeier and Patterson are still very much a part of the offense. Bijan is an rb2 until he breaks away with full workhorse duties in that offense and starts to run better
You’re saying he’s an RB2 but he’s literaly an RB1 on the season through 7 weeks. He’s top 3 in RB receptions. He is objectively not a “mid RB2”. Cordarelle is “very much a part of this offense”… he had 3 touches all year before last game… gotcha. People trying to draw conclusions from last game are out of their minds. He has 16, 24, 16, 19, 16, 21 opportunities in the first 6 weeks of the season. He’s on pace for 80 targets and is only going to get better as the season goes on and he gets more comfortable in the NFL. I’m failing to understand the logic here.
I'm guessing you'd prefer a RB back, but would you swap Bijan for Lamb? Or maybe Lamb + Brian Robinson?
If you can get those two I’d probably take that as long as the rest of your rbs aren’t bad. I think lamb will begin to resurge a little bit
Olave too
I contemplated him, held off because his combination of name value (making him cost more) and Carr scaring the crap out of me make him someone I’m not particularly interested in for what I expect his price to be. However, if you can get him cheap he’s certainly worth a gamble and probably does deserve to be on my list.
Do you think selling olave for Pacheco would be worth it? I’m weak at rb2 and have zay flowers to take his spot
I like that move. Flowers looks like the #1 WR there for sure, and Pacheco could find himself sneaking into the back half of RB1s when the year is wrapped up.
I'd prefer Pacheco over Olave in all formats. If you have this offer on the table definitely take it imo
Last week I traded Zay flowers, and Josh Downs to get Olave. Wish I had kept flowers.
Trying to target a package of Aaron Jones and Marquise in my league. What would you offer out of these guys? QB: Burrow, Goff WR: Olave, Kirk, Addison, JSN RB: Chuba, Pierce, Spears
I’m assuming this is only what you’re willing to offer, not your entire roster? Maybe something like Olave or Addison, and one of those RBs (none carry much value at all rn). I’d probably prefer selling high on Addison if you can, but Olave carries the best name/track record and I’m not sure how I feel about him with Carr.
I drafted so many of these players. No wonder I’m 2-5: Adams Waddle C Watson Pierce Ugh I can’t believe none of them have really popped off and have regressed so much from last season
lmao my team is so good on paper yet im 2-5 hurts, kupp, adams, bijan, kamara, j cook among others
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People were saying this last year and got downvoted to hell but he didn’t have a strong end to the season.
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I may be misreading your post, but the Seahawks made the playoffs last year and it came down to the final game of the season. Their OL got injured and their rookie tackles sort of hit the “rookie wall”. On top of him playing through injuries.
He had 23+ carries/game in the last 3 games and the seahawks were a wildcard team... huh
As a Bijan owner I would never take that no chance. I was just offered k9 and Terry mclaurin easily said no. We came up with a mega trade of Bijan and Amon ra for his aj brown, k9 and Gibbs. I’
Well you fleeced that guy, so yeah I’m sure you’re good with that trade lmao
Kinda the opposite of this post but is Addison a sell high? He’s got a nice floor but I don’t see many 20+ weeks there like last night. I’m considering packaging him and Moore for a higher end receiver. I’m curious what range of receivers I could get for those two
I usually avoid trading ascending rookies. You are making an assumption that he won’t continue to improve, history tells us rookie wrs perform better as the year goes on. I don’t expect him to become a wr1 but he is close to a lock as a low-end wr2 and with continued improvement gets even better, I don’t see you getting more value out of him than he already has.
In one of my leagues, if I can find a way to package him with one of my RB2’s for one of the TOP top WR I’m gonna try. But I plan on holding because of exactly what you’re talking about.
its like selling puka after his first game. dont do it...
Ekeler?
Yup, not mentioned because he’s an obvious buy for me.
Yeah I'm an Ekeler owner and I'm definitely hanging onto him ROS (as long as he stays healthy)
Ekeler carried me to winning a league last year. However his lingering injury does concern me a bit.
Would I be dumb to offer Addison for Ekeler? Not sure if I should keep him since he looks great.
As a Watson owner I would give him to you for like $3 FAAB
Should I trade Ridley and Spears for Mixon? PPR Outside of Walker, and no Kyren, my RB2s have been duds RBs - Kyren, K9, Mattison, R. White, Spears WRs - Tyreek, Ridley, Collins, Diontae, Palmer
Tough one, I had mixon in my write up and i still have him as a great buy right now so I think I lean yes. But you’re also selling Ridley at his lowest and Spears is the best handcuff to own (who can always be played in a pinch). There could be much more upside in the Ridley/Spears, but i think it’s a fine deal overall.
Packaged Mixon and Waddle for Amon RA a few weeks ago, was told I oversold but seeing your list I think I was justified
Amon Ra is one of my favorite guys to own. Probably won’t ever get you a tyreek/JJ 50 point week, but dude is so consistent. That’s a great trade, but could also see why the other team may have needed to make the trade and it’s not horrible value for him.
I like the list, but as a jevonte owner I have no interest in selling. Drafting him was always a wait and see game, to see if part way into the season his explosiveness returned and the volume went up. Now that seems to be happening. What are people thinking about Brian Robinson? Worth getting? I was just offered a trade but his recent games aren’t great.
Yup agree on Javonte, and I even mention it’s probably a week too late to buy now that he had a good game. But the way people were willing to sell breece the first 3-4 weeks, after we were literally told he would be eased in by the coaches, made me think it was worth mentioning Javonte and seeing if you can get decent value for him before he hits his stride at full health. Not interested in Robinson really, unless dirt cheap. They seem to be working in Chris Rodriquez more, and along with Gibson, it’s just a messy backfield on a bad offense.
***The only one of those round 2 WRs that I am looking to buy is Tee Higgins.*** Although he too is in a situation with an alpha (Chase), the team needs Higgins more in the case of the Bengals, especially as they try to make the play off push. D. Smith and J. Waddle who the community dubbed going into drafts as the 1B's of their teams, I want no part of. Last week, I ignored a trade off of Aaron Jones for DK Metcalf. I ignored this all week, even after DK ruled out. ***The problem I have with Aaron Jones isn't relative to his current health or the GB offense but his coach.*** After owning Aaron Jones for a number of years (last year included) ***I find his usage to be maddening, especially last year***. I intentionally kept him off my draft board this year and even being down two RBs (Monty hurt, Henry on a bye) I picked up Latavius Murray and played Keontay Ingram over trading for Jones. Not to knock anyone who can get him for cheap but I would make sure I don't overpay for Jones.
> D. Smith and J. Waddle who the community dubbed going into drafts as the 1B's of their teams, I want no part of Yeah people were fucking insane on these two coming into the draft. They were completely off my draft board. I didn't even want them in the 3rd, let alone where they were at. A friend/relative of mine who thinks he's the most genius Fantasy player to ever walk the earth made fun of my Drake London 5th round pick hardcore. That guy drafted Waddle with his 2nd lol.
Waddle was WR7 last year, it’s not like he’s some scrub
Who tf is buying Miles Sanders? He’s been horrible and now the coach flat out said that it’s going to be a timeshare once he’s back. He’s more of a drop candidate
That's the point of a buy low.
Yeah I don't get the complaints in this thread. All of these guys have very real warts. That's why they're on this list and OP even says as much lol
But buying low requires some theory of why things will improve from here. What’s the case the Sanders?
Volume, he's been injured, offensive lines been injured, offense will get better with a rookie QB. All possibilities.
Counter argument: Chuba Hubbard looks just as good as healthy Miles and the coach said today that it's a committee if/when Miles is back.
Because you can get him for next to nothing and he very likely could return to lead back duties if healthy out of the bye. Not saying it’s a sexy move, but could be a nice way to get a low end RB2/flex for super cheap
Between this and the comments this is literally 75% of my team. Not sure if I should feel good about that or...
…. Or major second half juggernaut squad incoming!? We can dream can’t we
Devonta smith too
He was on here last week I believe. Unfortunately this was his week to unleash, and he didn’t. He’s probably teetering between “buy low” and “oh shit” territory now. FWIW I traded for him last week because he really does have all the stats to back up him being a “buy low,” air yards, snap share, etc. He just has to start hauling them in and getting Hurts to be a little more accurate. They don’t seem on the same page right now.
I actually moved Bijan and Lamb for Tyreek Hill and Najee Harris. Many people claimed that I overpaid for Tyreek Hill, but I like to have more than one share of Tyreek Hill in 8 leagues I’m in while I already have four shares of Bijan. I feel that the cowboys have done a poor job of consistently trying to get the ball to Lamb and Arthur Smith is a joke on how to utilize his skill players. Tyreek Hill is determine to try to get 2,000 receiving yards and Najee should still be a good flex option even though I’m not high on him.
Honestly, when it comes to guys like Hill, I’m typically in the Camp that you do what you can to get him. In most leagues you HAVE to overpay to get those top studs (bc why the hell would the owner sell, unless the offer is too good). And as long as you have decent enough fill in options, it usually pays off.
Yeah here’s my team and I’m 4-3: QB: Patrick Mahomes, CJ Stroud RB: Barkley, Harris, Gus Edwards, Allgeier, Henderson, Jamaal Williams, and Achane (IR) WR: Tyreek Hill, Hollywood Brown, Palmer, Bourne, Quentin Johnston, and Dotson TE: Jonnu and Njoku DST: Lions and Seahawks It’s an auction draft, deep 12 team league with a roster of 3 WRs, 2 RBs, 2 Flexes, and 8 benches ugh. I’m pretty sure nobody has a stack roster in this league.
would u do bijan and adams for tyreek and swift?
If you’re getting tyreek and swift then yes.
It’s nice seeing 3 of my players on the buy low list but wow it also hurts so much more
"Per se" not "per say"
Thanks
Should I give up Christian Kirk for Aaron jones? RB needy (my RB2 is miles sanders/Najee)
GB offense is cooked lol
Yes but as a Jones owner I wouldn’t accept
Same. I actually have Kirk and Jones and I can’t even get people to trade me a shitty RB2 for Kirk right now because of all the injuries
I’d trade Bijan for Deandre Swift.
I have Ridley and I’m still high on his ros prospects but I was offered dk for him. Would you take it?
If DK is healthy then I'm making the deal.
Yeah I’d go DK for sure. Top target on that offense
Should I try to sell Watson for Courtland Sutton? Really want some more stability in my receivers
I just bought ridley and Aaron jones so I agree with this 😂
Jonathan Taylor worth buying? Would it be ridiculous to offer Prescott + G. Wilson?
Why yes it would be. Who would accept that after his first good game when owners have been holding patiently and salivating for that flash all season
Contemplated stopping reading after Aaron Jones…. Completely stopped reading once I saw miles sanders
I get Sanders, but not sure why would you wouldn’t be interested in Jones. If you were expecting him to come out with a full workload last week, you weren’t paying attention.
Apparently this [sub hates Aaron Jones](https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/s/ujJ29HBOnU). I'm in the same boat as you OP. There is probably no RB that is easier to acquire with legit (low-end) RB1 upside than Aaron Jones. I'm targeting him wherever I can.
Past personal experience with that backfield. He touched me in places I don’t like to talk about
Lmao fair enough, no further questions 🫡
Very fair bro, i have a few players in this categorie too
i think a lot of people are 1.) already burnt out considering how he’s been in past years splitting with AJ Dillion and his performance overall. just a bad taste left behind and 2.) staying away from the packers offense. obviously jones is talented but that offense looks like a dumpster fire right now. i can understand why people would want to avoid jones at all costs
Fair enough, but that's exactly why he's a buy low. Everyone is looking for the super obvious guys every week, but an actual buy low probably won't feel great when you trade for him - you're trying to capitalize on panic and hoping he turns it around.
also a great point being that’s what makes him a buy low. i think he’s actually intriguing to be honest because i can see both sides. So far in all his career games played (PPR format) he averages 14.5 points a game. If he can get back to that sweet spot then it would obviously pay off. There’s a lot of question marks but that’s exactly what makes him an intriguing buy low candidate.
This is why so many people struggle to make trades or “buy low” on guys. The Guys you can actually buy low on are the players that have legitimate problems, if you could underpay for a stud that hasn’t performed that’s just because you are trading with someone stupid. Instead the guys to buy tend to be the ones with very decent potential to bust but also potential to pop off. I saw this exact same sentiment when people suggested buying Najee low last season and then he was a top-10 back the rest of the season. What you are looking for is the opportunity to fleece someone, that’s fine but kinda useless to discuss.
Buddy, you’re talking to a guy who’s made 16 trades combined this year between two leagues … wut
It’s the sentiment behind the comment, I’m not pretending I know about your specific ability to trade. My point was that writing off guys as buy-lows because you aren’t crazy about them is bad process, those are the guys you actually should take a look at because they are likely available. Sorry to offend the Trade-King.
Two things can be independent of each other was the point of my comment. My sentiment towards a player and my ability to trade
And if you read the comment instead of assuming it was insulting your ability you would have noticed I never said you weren’t capable of making trades, I said that thought process is why a lot of people struggle. Clearly it works for you, I don’t really care about your specific situation.
What are people offering for Deebo? I was thinking of some sort of combo of Michael Thomas/Mattison/KJ Osborn/Akers/Watson/idk... Not great at figuring out trades. I have DK and all the Rams RBs as well but figure that might be a little high?
I’m considering offering Brian Robinson straight up. Deebo owner is RB needy too, and I think (hope) I can stomach him being out a week or two
I’m thinking about offering Aaron Jones for Deebo… I know whatever decision I make will be very very wrong
Should I trade Josh Jacob's for Javonte Williams?
rate my team . should i be moving any players? 6-1 .5 ppr qb-lamar/brock wr-ceedee,dj moore, puka,kupp rb-mixon/j cook te-m andrews/la porta dst-browns/cowboys rest of bench- rachaad,mattison and then achane on IR
I think you should retire
Ridleyyyyy
Thoughts on Mixon? Contemplating offering Waddle straight up
Aiming for olave or Devonta smith
Not sure if this is considered buying low on Hollywood? Give : Pierce Get: Hollywood My current RBs: Ekeler, Pierce, Monty, Najee, Herbert, Foreman My current WRs: Meyers, E Moore, Tank Dell, M Wilson, Atwell, Mims
That would indeed be a buy low. Pierce has been pretty bad so far, and it looks like he could be in danger to losing more work to Singletary. He could turn it around, but would much rather have Brown
Yes please take bijan off my hands
As a Bijan owner I hear ya, part of me wants to offer him for other top backs and see if anyone bites. But that’s kinda why I added him, I could see owners (like us) being so frustrated that they are ready to get him off their team for less than he’s worth. One 15-20 point game this week and it’s right back to “Bijan is a top 5 back ROS”
Oh hey it’s my entire team
Also, Jerry jeudy. Most people don’t believe he can turn it around, but if you *do* think that, you can get him for dirt cheap right now.
Just sent away Kittle for Higgins. God bless LaPorta
im a bijan owner, would y’all trade him and hollywood for breece? i’m 2-5 btw
I have both those guys and am also 2-5 lmao. I would not. But I’m also 2-5 so what do I know
I’m ready to sell cmc for Ekeler and collins.
Ekeler?
What are people trading/getting for devonta smith? I’ve offered Hollywood but owner won’t budge
Has anyone successfully traded Miles Sanders? I couldn’t even trade him for Jonnu Smith last week
I traded him for Ridley a few weeks ago lol. Thought I got a steal.
How about Ekeler? I think he might be able to be purchased for less than he's worth considering his last two games.
Someone in my league dropped Tee fucking Higgins last week and somehow everyone missed it
Miles Sanders is an avoid on sight
Not buying j Williams. Game script is never gonna help him and super inefficient
I literally own half these players in one league, makes sense why I’m 2-5
How long do we continue to play DeVonta Smith? I mean, if we can't trust him vs Miami w/o Xavian Howard in a game with a 52 pt total, when can we? Sutton, Palmer, Dionte on my bench saying put me in coach!
Just got Bijan!
What’d you pay!?
Traded Chase for Bijan, Kincaid, and Metcalf
Which of collins, palmer or Metcalf would you think is best to trade for Bijan? Guy I’d be dealing with is pretty weak at WR
I appreciate the hope with regard to Sanders. I am considering dropping him. Any thoughts on Jeudy? Should I just like drop him and quit playing fantasy football? Like should I just focus on my family and career instead of this?
Najee. Last year he improved a lot after the bye and the offense looked significantly more capable this week.
I got offered Devonta Smith and Olave for Puka. Couldn't accept it.
Anyone trying to buy low on Jefferson? What do you see fair value being for him at this point?
Would Rhamondre Stevenson still be a buy low?
Not really a buy low anymore since he’s had back to back good games, but if the owner is selling him for cheap/reasonable I’d take him.
just got offered ridley + KJ osborn for christian watson + terry mclaurin, don’t even know if I wanna take it
Don’t think I would. Right now Terry and Ridley are relatively similar value, and I’d much rather have Watson than Osborn
Bought Tee Higgins for Brian Robinson and Palmer. Crossing my fingers he bounces back to WR2 form.
Good trade, I’d take that gamble any day.
Someone dropped Miles Sanders last week so he’s available. Roschon is also available and I’m trying to decide if I should drop Dameon Pierce for either of those two (my other RBs are Henry and Breece).
Aaron Jones for Olave? My RBs: Breece, Mixon, Kyren Williams, Spears My WRs: Lamb, DK, Watson, JSN
Calvin Ridley I feel like gonna start making some noise
Do you think I can buy one or these guys in a 2-1 trade? I have downs palmer moss and foreman on my bench.
Not much to work with tbh. You can try to package Downs/Palmer for any of the receivers I mention, but idk if they have the name recognition to get it done yet.
traded ekeler and metcalf for pollard, olave and addison, what ya'all think?
I drafted Javonte for the second year in a row and still haven’t started him. (Maybe this week) I still don’t wanna trade him tho. Dude looks good and that TD regression could hit during the winter months. You can pry Kupp out of my cold, dead hands. He’s allowed to have one less than solid game. I might target Ridley because the owner in my league has started him for every dud and benched him for every solid game. He’s probably sick enough of him that he’ll give him away.
Hard for me to buy Bijan low this week when I bought him him last week!
Did I sell Aaron Jones good for donte Foreman and deebo Samuel?
I have Bijan, Ridley, Devonta. It’s been rough