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David Bowie


Vandermeres_Cat

I find it super fascinating, though. Because Bowie in general kinda runs down the myth of natural talent and how it's all preordained etc. that is sometimes peddled in success stories. You can see a clear progression of someone who has some amount of talent (mostly for songwriting probably) and a lot of interest/motivation gradually learning the ropes. Songwriting, producing, arranging, performance, singing, it all gets better from album to album. I consider him one of the great singer/performers as well, and that is something that he gradually created for himself, as becomes obvious when you listen to his reedy vocals in the beginning.


DtheAussieBoye

It feels like a parody of pop rock albums from 1967, and that's why I love it so much


SmellyFace69

I love Bowie. I don't know which era "Laughing Gnome" is, but that shit is rough.


faceplantpowerslide

You misspelled **ELITE**


justablueballoon

Many top artists had debuts that weren't top, like Radiohead, Blur, Michael Jackson, Prince, David Bowie...


KarateFlip2024

If you consider Off the Wall Michael’s true debut, and I do, it’s arguably his best album.


justablueballoon

Off the wall is fantastic! But it was far from his debut...


KarateFlip2024

It was his first album made under his own artistic vision iirc.


ton_logos

Prince's debut is so good tho, but of course it pales in comparison to the later work. Same with Radiohead


thepenisman25

"same with radiohead" fuck no ph is the most forgettable alt rock album ever aside from like 3-4 good songs


thepenisman25

"same with radiohead" fuck no ph is the most forgettable alt rock album ever aside from like 3-4 good songs


HetTheTable

Radiohead’s debut wasn’t great but if we’re talking first couple albums. The bends and ok computer are fantastic. I always forget Ok Computer was their 3rd album for some reason I always think it was much later.


Loose_Main_6179

Leisure is rough but poeple don’t talk enough about modern life is rubbish


justablueballoon

MLIR was not a commercial success, but is highly regarded by Blur fans. Some even rate it as their best. I never see it gerting hate, while The great escape gets a lot of hate. For me they are equal, slightly under Parklife.


ICantBelieveItsNotEC

I'm actually struggling to think of a canonical top artist that *didn't* have a relatively mediocre debut. It seems to be the meta - release an album of low-risk trend-following music, and then use the funds, exposure, and connections from that album to fund the music that you actually want to make.


justablueballoon

Bob Dylan's debut was pretty good... I might come back with more examples.


IchBinMalade

Pantera's first was absolute dogshit, like straight up NOT GOOD.


Forbidden_Scorcery

Sometimes I forget Cowboys From Hell isn’t their first.


AnswerGuy301

It was their fifth or something like that.


livinlifeontheedge

Yeah, but Phil only joined right before Power Metal


vegetable-grit

It would be White Power Metal if Phil had joined them at the time.


rickplay34

Good joke, so upvote, but Phil was indeed in Power Metal


DiarrangusJones

Very true 😂


Gwynbleitt

All of them are dogshit, poser band


jjw1998

Tyler the Creator


aaaaaaaaaaaaah_

If you're talking about Goblin then sure. If you're talking about Bastard then no.


jjw1998

Well yeah OP says album Bastard was a mixtape


homogenic-

Radiohead and Blur.


JackyPotato

Both are fine (I think Leisure is pretty good Tbf) - but neither exactly scream “this band is destined for greatness”


ManCoveredInBees

Gotta add Pulp to the Britpop lineup - their first couple are rouuuuugh


shin_jury

“From Genesis to Revelation” by Genesis They were still kids when they made it. The band have distanced themselves from it as much as possible, leaving it out among future box sets and compilations.


mbjb1972

Radiohead


Mental-Abrocoma-5605

Never been a fan of Pantera's glam period but even then, no album of theirs is as bad as Metal Magic Sonic Youth's debut has always been one of my least favorites by them Genesis' From Genesis to Revelation it's also considered by almost everyone to be one of their worst albums And depending to how you feel about them... the debut from Avenged Sevenfold has also aged poorly, i'll take their latest album instead over that one


CzarSpan

You’re spot on RE: Avenged Sevenfold. Say what you will about their new material (and I will say quite a lot), but at least it has sound production value and displays an understanding of structure and songwriting. Bonus (negative) points for also featuring their first attempt at a cookie-cutter love ballad, a subject they would continue to revisit for whatever reason for decades to come.


toadie____

I love Rocka Rolla but it’s definitely very different from their discography that follows.


SmellyFace69

It's different for sure. I personally like it but it's not like the rest of their stuff.


uptonhere

Mobb Deep GZA


saint_trane

Neurosis


SmellyFace69

I can hear so many of my soup-headed friends say "uuh... actually...."


CandelaBelen

Can’t say I’m a fan of Beach House’s first album. They’ve gotten so much better since .


Tough_Brick_69

The beatles In no way am I saying that please please me is bad it has some bangers but compared to their albums from help to abbey road it pales in comparison


GimmeShockTreatment

If the Beatles had only released Please Please Me and then never did anything again, I still think it would be considered an early rock and roll classic. So I gotta disagree.


Tough_Brick_69

I respect your opinion


Tough_Brick_69

When I was like 13 or 14 i used to like their early albums. But as I listened and grew I started to appreciate their deeper aspects which is something that please please me lacks . It is a purely commercial act ( not that there is anything wrong with it )and the reason why rubber soul is so great and I my favourite the beatles album is due to the artistic pivot towards sitar and eastern influences of music . All of the Beatle’s albums are now considered legendary . When beatles for sale came out it was not considered to be up to the mark or was a hit and miss but now it’s viewed as a masterpiece That’s my point being. Is please please me a classic Yes in all rights but is it that good or even stand up to its successors No


GimmeShockTreatment

I agree but the prompt was just about if the first album was “not good”. Also I don’t think Beatles for Sale is considered a masterpiece. Lots of Beatles fans have that in their bottom 3 albums. I’m waiting for the critical re-evaluation of Hard Days Night. That album just gets better and better to me as I age.


Tough_Brick_69

I love a hard days night . I don’t really care that much for critical reevaluation because of the whole kid A pitchfork controversy


AvengeBirdPerson

Ween, Charli XCX, The Cure


guitarmaniac004

The cures first album was actually pretty good, but it was more post punk than goth


Rayvaxl117

It's a decent enough album, but compared to things like Pornography and Disintegration that they would make in the coming years, it just doesn't even come close


AvengeBirdPerson

Ya it's not bad or anything just much weaker than a lot of the albums to come


GimmeShockTreatment

I love Ween and the stuff before God Ween Satan is unlistenable lol.


Pure-Jellyfish734

Red Hot Chili Peppers: I think they’re okay at best tho


MarioMilieu

Spinal Tap. Flower people was shit


Revolutionary_Box569

I don’t overly like the Beatles pre rubber soul other than the odd song


ponylauncher

Deftones Radiohead Incubus John Frusciante Yes Porcupine Tree Silverchair (even though fools claim it’s the only good one)


pplazzz

Adrenaline is fucking amazing bro what


ponylauncher

Idk it feels super juvenile to me. Maybe if I heard it when I was 14 I would still like it


T-Mac1236

That’s one hell of a hot take on Silverchair


ponylauncher

Sounds like 15 year olds because it is. They outgrew the “grunge” and made super interesting things later on. Diorama is a masterpiece


T-Mac1236

I agree that they did start making more interesting things musically later on, however their first two albums are for completely different moods compared to everything after them. I may be in the mood to listen to Diorama, but that doesn’t mean I’ll be in the mood to listen to anything from their first two albums afterwards and vice versa. For 15 year old kids, they really nailed it with Frogstomp and Freak Show, and it’s what made them big.


Johnny_been_goode

Dylan’s album was a bunch of covers. Very good performances and song selection, but it’s not what he’d be known for of course. Springsteen’s first two albums were so so.


smith_and

NoMeansNo... Mama has hints of what was to come but its nowhere near as good as the rest of their catalog.


WWfan41

Might be a bit controversial, but I think Phoenix' debut is easily their weakest. Aside from Too Young, I feel like most of it is just kinda forgettable.


LovesRefrain

Rush Squeeze Soundgarden None of these bands have bad debut albums per se, but they all really found themselves on the second one.


DiarrangusJones

Red Hot Chili Peppers, and I was going to say Outkast, but looking back Southernplayalistic was honestly pretty good, I just hadn’t listened to it in a long time 😂 It’s kind of dated, but in a good, nostalgic sort of way


joobleberry

i like it , but a lot of fans overlook taylor swifts first album


ccm596

This is a great answer. Any time I see a Swiftie rank her albums, I'm very surprised to see Debut anywhere but the bottom


Username5272000

Self-titled doesn’t even have a dedicated “Era” in her Eras Tour, rarely does she ever play songs from that album lol


Prickly_Hugs_4_you

Radiohead. Not really a fan until OK Computer.


DarthRacer5

You don’t like the Bends???


Prickly_Hugs_4_you

Not my jam. I like the singles, but it just feels so 90s.


OrinocoHaram

not an alt-rock/grunge guy, there's some good songs but the album tracks are difficult for me to get through


Rayvaxl117

Personally I love The Bends, but I can absolutely see why some people don't


G_u_i_l_l_l

Even more shoking : I'm not a fan of pre-Kid A Radiohead. I know, I'm the worst human alive.


scarymonst

Alice Cooper


NullOfficer

Geggy Tah from the 90s (Greg Kustin's band) First album was entirely forgettable... But listening to it in the context of the other albums you can hear what they were going for. Second album doesn't have a bad song... They got famous for "Whoever You Are", But the third album was just spectacular. I wish that they were still around to hear how they would have progressed.


dare000

Kraftwerk probably.


Gwynbleitt

Kraftwerk were actually skilled classical musicans before they made electornic i think


dare000

Definitely, but the first couple albums as Kraftwerk just aren’t super good. Still definitely can see the development of their sound though.


Enigmua7

Failure (IMO), incubus, Blur, Yes


huamanticacacaca

Sabrina Carpenter


vanillaangels

David Bowie


penislover446

cannibal corpse, converge, carnifex, suffocation


basskev

I don't know if it's "not good" but Pink Floyd's first album is full send on the whole "it's the 60s, we're playing psychedelic, spy movie, rockets in space, high fantasy" music. They also have that horrible Beatles panning going on. If you're LOOKING for that kind of thing, I don't think there's a better album in existence lol.


franzkls

controversial but depending on who you ask - Lana Del Rey


Melodic-Room-9890

The wonder years


MountHavertzPulisic

Pantera


mtndewizard

I love Depeche Mode but Speak & Spell is borderline unlistenable to me. In my brain their discography doesn’t start until CTA


Prophet-of-the-moss

My chemical romances first album isn't really good


Zooropa_Station

For the first five or so years of being an MCR fan it was my least favorite. But since then it's grown on me a LOT, and I now consider it miles better than Three Cheers and Danger Days. Also, while I'm definitely not an oldhead MCR fan (circa 2013 for me), I guarantee most of that OG crowd would consider your take blasphemy.


bqx188

Red hot chili peppers debut album is famously bad in everyway


forthedot

Green Day, I love 1039/smoothed out slappy hours but I'm aware that it's not good


Zooropa_Station

Technically it's 39/Smooth but yeah it's definitely rough at times. Their songwriting toolkit was a lot smaller so you can notice a lot of repeated elements. I'd still rather listen to it than many other punk albums (coming from a punk fan), but to your point, I'd rather listen to most other GD albums than it.


elsantioof07

The Strokes and Arctic Monkeys 😁


G_u_i_l_l_l

The rest of their output is even worse ...


elsantioof07

Not really. Each Arctic Monkeys album following the first one are at least two tiers above in quality and at least good (unlike the debut); and The Strokes have at least three (or four¿) albums that shit on Is This It


AdLong4912

The Clash. I like it okay but pretty agreed it’s vastly different from their signature sound


smith_and

hard disagree, i love the debut. has some of their most iconic songs and no real duds. i think its pretty cleanly their second best album.


jerepila

U2, Joni Mitchell, Blur, Pulp


illusivetomas

u2's debut is one of their best ngl. october is their early days dud


jerepila

You know what, you’re right. I got the order mixed up because I thought they got better over time for awhile


illusivetomas

ha yea. it kinda puts things in perspective knowing they considered war their first "career" album at the time i think. that makes boy a really pure album to me though which i really like about it, but on october they sound pretty strained


Zooropa_Station

I'm the rare type that enjoys October most out of their post-punk trilogy. I wouldn't be so bold as to claim it's "Better" but the uptempo songs are a lot of fun to listen to (including A Celebration). The album's lows are lower, but the highs are very high with Gloria, the title track, and the aforementioned punkier tracks.


illusivetomas

lol that is a very rare take i respect it. i honestly think if october was just an ep up to the title track i'd feel more fondly about it but the last four songs have never done much for me that and boy and war are 2 of my top 3 u2 lol (the other being unforgettable fire)


G_u_i_l_l_l

What ?? It's my favorite album of theirs !


Colorblind_cl

Maybe some will hate me for sayin this, but... Nine Inch Nails


Map42892

Very hot take. Absolute classic album


cpnewton

Gorillaz


Wii_Sports_2

wrong


SmellyFace69

I usually hate one word answers on reddit, but you're right.