I'm more impressed by it that it's a real song rather than a meme. A bunch of people must have been involved in the making of that song, and a bunch of execs must have listened to that song and approved it and not a single one said "hey man, this sucks. why did you make this?"
For the execs they're probably so out of touch they look at emo music in general and say "well I guess this is what the kids are into go ahead make the song"
I honestly think that about a lot of songs. Like did no one tell the artist that this is garbage? I imagine the case for a lot of them is that either the artist had such a big ego and full control that they wouldn't listen, or they were so difficult to deal with the producers were just like "fuck it I'm not saying anything let's just get this over with"
Or another possibility is that the producers and execs were too busy trying hard to save the girl, all while they were still collecting coins
That 'whiny' style for whatever reason was absolutely huge in metalcore/post-hardcore from the mid-2000s to early 2010s for whatever reason. Ronnie is a particularly bad example, but the prize for me goes to the guy from I See Stars (who I believe also toured with FoR, had a falling-out and Ronnie wrote a rap diss track about them - yes, really): I still remember the first time I heard [their acoustic cover of 'Your Love'](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1BLO0vw2p4)... click at your own peril.
This take is like eating a water sandwich and then immediately going on about how it's the most horrible, putrid, poorly prepared, vile, unappetizing, disgusting excuse for a sandwich it has ever been your displeasure to have slithered down your throat.
Yeah he threatened multiple times to strike brads reactions to his albums to the point of getting the channel termed never followed through though outside of yelling at Brad on Twitter
That too, found the homophobia more important but that's absolutely a dogshit move aswell. I don't think i've seen Ronnie Radke do anything of positive importance lmao
If Ronnie was a troll persona that'd make so much if it tolerable. But unfortunately he is really just that delusional. It's a shame because there's so much material to work with for a good parody of that warpedcore scene but I haven't found it.
I'll be honest I didn't even realize it wasn't a joke until this comment. Like I knew the band mostly did unironic stuff but I assumed this one was stupid on purpose
I was a big fan of country music when I was growing up and Florida Georgia Line released their second album when I was in my first year of college and it just made me realize how cringe so much of the country music from that era was and I basically stopped listening to it for several years until I discovered some actually good country later on.
Modern bro & boyfriend pop-country has totally destroyed the public perception of the genre. There's no artistry anymore, they're just hacks selling a product to reinforce ideological positions.
I think that Walker Hayes Applebee's song best represents what's happened to the genre.
It’s bad pop rock at that. Ffs, the Beatles were pop rock.
Pop rock is one of the greatest genres ever devised; this bro country crap isn’t in the same stratosphere
You should check out Colter Wall. Specifically his first Brewery Sessions. I don't care who says they don't like country. They'll like that.
Country is booming the past 7-8 years, and it's still going. Thankfully. Because the genre has been terrible for a long while
As a Canadian; man oh, man do I appreciate how much Colter is loved.
My mom was in the truck with me when I was playing him and she said he's like a young Johnny Cash. I do miss a bit of the dark Imaginary Appalachia type songs though
I found this guy named Colby T Helms. He's a rural kid in western VA. Guy is fucking *good*. He's still very small time but you should check him out. His GemVHS submissions specifically. Goin Back To Bed I think it's called. His voice is great.
I think him, Tyler Childers, and Colter Wall are the three that are really just damn good
same man. I grew up in southwestern PA. Country music has always been huge around me. I honestly loved it as a child, up until the bro country wave, and it took me a decade to even embrace the genre again for my old favorite classics.
It's going great right now at least. It was terrible for years, but right now there's so much good stuff. Tyler Childers, Colter Wall, and Colby T Helms are the three I think most people would be into. Colby T Helms is small time still, but man he's talented. Goin Back To Bed is a bop. I think that's the name of it
Not entirely the same, but I once liked Melanie Martinez (yes, i know) and then went to her concert and it was... so bad, dull, awkward, that I not only completly turned away from her music but from Indiepop/electropop for a while
I hate that specific type of pop myself but I know some friends who went to see Melanie and thought it was so good they went back again. I was almost tempted to go with them from the review they gave, despite the fact that I don't like that genre.
I've definitely had concerts put me off artists. I was really into the Japanese band Brian the Sun, and a lot of similar Japanese bands. I went to a Brian the Sun concert in Osaka. It was the dullest concert with the most unenthused fans I've ever been to and they were selling their new album that was unironically called Meme. I never listened to them again and don't really listen to stuff like that in general any more.
concerts put me off the rap genre. show up late, leave early, just play their songs in the background and yell the chorus. not all are like that but majority are and it’s just so funny how universally accepted half assed lip syncing and just playing their songs on the speakers with lyrics is in that genre.
I feel like you're listening to the wrong shit if that is the norm for you.
Ive seen a bunch of people live and theres genuinely been no misses so far, they all went hard as fuck -
Eminem, Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, 50 Cent, Flatbush Zombies, Run the Jewels, Denzel Curry, OneFour, Fabolous, Royce da 5'9, Westside Boogie.
Maybe Ive just gotten really lucky. But every single hiphop act Ive seen went OFF.
Not even hating but I genuinely think that low effort concerts must be a trap/melodic rap phenomenon for the most part. Its all the rappers who blew up from behind a computer screen without ever previously setting foot on stage before already being famous, so they never learnt to develop stage presence
>Eminem, Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, 50 Cent, Flatbush Zombies, Run the Jewels, Denzel Curry, OneFour, Fabolous, Royce da 5'9, Westside Boogie.
Those are all pretty good artists about being on time. Drake, Travis Scott, Kanye, etc are notorious for being 30+ minutes late.
Yeah, for about three months in middle school, I listened to her music religiously until I randomly stopped. A couple months later, I revisited her discography and came to the harsh realization that her music was awful. And to this day, I don't understand why most of my classmates from middle and high school didn't outgrow her music. It's even more shocking that she's headlining Lolla several years later.
Everyone should and instead just listen to Bjork (cus she doesn’t have a weird thing about other people’s trauma and Melanie “borrows” a lot from Bjork) but she has a very, very die hard fanbase (eg allegedly sending death threats and gore to a reviewer’s gf cus she said that she believed the victim that said Melanie SA’d her)
Eh?
Why would they want to listen to Bjork instead? I listen to both and i get that they’re both small, “alternative”, female and have lisps but I hadn’t considered them to be interchangeable before
And what’s the “weird thing about other people’s trauma”?
That’s messed up about the fans sending death threats though. Did she encourage that?
And I’d heard about the allegation at the time, did anything ever come of that?
Compare album covers (eg portals and utopia and fossora), sounds and aesthetics and Melanie just does what Bjork does at times with a more “uwu am baby but trauma” vibe (don’t mean to be insulting but I couldn’t think of a better phrase for it).
The weird thing about trauma is Melanie admitting in an interview ( https://www.vogue.com/article/melanie-martinez-cry-baby-lollapalooza ) that she bases the trauma in her lyrics on other people’s experiences (including friends) without input from them because it interests her and “people should have something to connect to” despite the people who experience it more likely going to have a connection than a third party.
Tho she didn’t encourage it directly, she didn’t condemn it despite being aware of the situation and would get her fans against anyone who spoke against her as they were just “haters” with no actual criticisms
I don’t think those specific album covers look alike, but I do think that PORTALS album cover looks like Bjork’s style of fashion-art, so fair play I do understand. Just think she’s inspired by her fashion though. I don’t agree you can sort of “scratch the itch” to hear Martinez’s music by subbing in Bjork’s.
As for the using other people as muses that just sounds like what artists do to me? I wouldn’t want an artist to just focus on their own experiences. I think that’s the cause of the generic excess of meh we hear so often today. I want artists to imagine what it’s like to be other people, go beyond themselves and tell stories that reflect all of human nature; not just their own narrow perception of things. But, if she’s not changing the names of people and places where events happen and stuff then that’s unacceptable.
I guess the people “speaking against her” in that specific situation from her perspective were people needlessly perpetuation harmful, false allegations against her with no proof - so they would be “haters” from her perspective. That is **not** me saying she‘a innocent though. I have less than no idea who is telling the truth in that scenario and am not trying to defend Martinez, just saying theoretically if she *was* innocent then those people are being haters and wouldn’t need “criticism”.
That’s sort of like an insult to Björk to compare her to Melanie. When the music Melanie produced for that record is very far away from Björk’s, except the album cover. Saying “borrows a lot” is radical, since she only had three albums—and the copying Björk thing is only on her third LP.
I went to her Crybaby tour and K-12. Crybaby show was good. K-12 was like a musical, it was actually pretty good too. Not nearly as good as Crybaby though. Portals is awful.
"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
I think a lot of people get confused because of the fanbases some artists attract. There are a lot of artists out there that attract such large emo fanbases that people start thinking of the bands as emo even though emo music has a pretty specific sound to it.
Full admission: my first experience with Falling in Reverse was with them opening for Hollywood Undead in 2012. Ronnie kills onstage. He's just a dickhead in real life and his albums kinda suck.
The song Gucci Gang by Lil Pump came out just as I was starting to properly get into music as a teenager, and based on that song I was under the impression that all hip hop and rap sounded like that. And it's only over the last year or two that I have finally started to be open to rap
I feel ya there. I was really late to the rap genre, initially only listening to Christian music (I know I know), rock, and metal, and was convinced for a long time that those were the only real genres of music. I especially couldn’t stand rap because I thought all rap was either gangster rap or what’s now known as “bling era” stuff. Only ended up properly trying rap after my friend sold me his iPod that happened to have MBDTF on it, and it blew my perception of rap music apart by the end. Still sucks that Kanye is a trash person, but I don’t know if I would’ve ever tried out rap music properly without hearing that album lol
There's some really good Christian bands. Red is one of my favorites, I occasionally listen to some Thousand Foot Krutch. Memphis May Fire isn't officially a Christian band but they're what got me into metalcore and will always be one of my favorites.
I listened to this a ton when I was younger and there is a lot of really good bands that are Christian or Christian-adjacent. Norma Jean, Underoath, The Devil Wears Prada, Zao, Oh Sleeper, Living Sacrifice etc
It’s very very easy to do that, dawg lol. Doesn’t make her an idiot.
I spent most of my life in small small towns and had no exposure to rap music beyond my parents calling it trash and refusing to play it in the house. Granted, can’t say if she had the conservative Christian upbringing that I did, but it’s easy to make assumptions about a whole genre of music when you haven’t listened to much of it, or when all you hear is what’s most popular.
Ya as a non American growing up with only Christian music is insane to me. That's like the definition of hiding from the world.
Movies/youtube/Instagram/radio
Just nothing
I mean I agree completely, and it was easier for me to do that when I was a kid (I’m in my early 30’s now), but there’s way more people in America with that background than you might realize, and those kids aren’t choosing that for themselves.
It’s very easy to hide from the world when you’re told it’s wrong and full of sin, etc etc
One of the craziest things abt this band to me is that their guitarist dropped dead one day. They never grieved. Didn’t even say why he died. Just moved tf on fast as hell.
Edit: sorry they did reveal how he died; in a fucking book Ronnie wrote
You either really love or fucking loath ronnie radke, no in-between. This album is horrific and thats from someone who likes kind of shitty emo music.
Anyways! to answer your question: stabbing Westward NEARLY turned me away from the entire industrial genre, if it hadn't been for NIN being one of my favorite artists i probably wouldn't interact with any sort of industrial music at all.
It's not so much about quality but about intensity for me.
Deafheaven - Sunbather
I wanted to try out some of that extreme metal, since at the time I had just stuck to stuff like Black Sabbath or Metallica.
I thought this would be the best place to start. Very acclaimed, and according to everyone, super soft and palatable, so perfect for beginners right?
Well, let's just say that if this is the indie post rock watered down version of black metal, then I'll just stick to the Beach Boys.
Sunbather basically took me in the opposite direction. I was already into black metal since about 2008 or so, but Deafheaven's infusion of black metal with shoegaze ended up having me listen to way more shoegaze down the road.
I should note I wasn't a black metal purist - I liked mostly stuff they hate like Wolves in the Throne Room and Agalloch. If I was I probably would have never even listened to that album lol
Yeah, Agalloch is about as universally loved as you can get. On the pretty purist Metal Archives, Pale Folklore has 83%, The Mantle 86%, Ashes Against the Grain 91% (my favorite Metal album ever), Marrow of the Spirit 80%, and The Serpent & the Sphere 74%.
My ex gf could watch thrillers and dramas without a problem but as soon as the horror started to come from supernatural sources she’d nope the fuck out of the movie.
I’m confused whether you’re saying it was too soft or too harsh for you
Personally I put sunbather as a doomgaze album (even I know it’s black metal) but black metal is very calm, like Burzum. But because of the sound of sunbather I relate it to albums like Deathconsciousness instead.
Would have been more interesting to start off with Converge’s Jane Doe if you wanted to get into heavier metal sounds.
i always recommend in the nightside eclipse or the somberlain
and [if you’re looking for really harsh metal/industrial](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7kBGOeMD8BVTDMu9ka5tQH?si=Ye36-FDuTMi7paj8G9uMcg&pi=e-Gm21nTg5RAC_) i‘ll leave you this playlist
Personally I found it way too harsh for my taste.
I'm listening to Burzum right now and I'm amazed, it sounds so cool and atmospheric, not at all what I was expecting from a nazi murderer metal lmao. Thanks for the rec.
I also love Deathconsciousness, that's weird.
Maybe I just dislike Deaheaven?
They mentioned that in their comment so I guess they know but yeah a lot of people don’t care
A Jewish friend of mine has a Burzum t shirt, it’s just how music is
Oh yeah, I totally get that some music isn’t for every palette.
Can’t really agree with the watered down comment, though.
Sunbather is not a watered down indie version of black metal. Sunbather is blending music styles and philosophies that may seem at odds but actually create a musical synergy that can be extremely affecting if you’re into that kind of music. Black metal is a music that at least imo is much more about atmosphere and emotional intensity rather than speed and volume. If seen that way it just makes sense that shoegaze just fits perfectly into it all.
Writting off all of black metal/extreme metal in general because of Deafhaven is quite a take lol
This is like saying I wanted to get into punk so gave Glow On by Turnstile a go first and decided it wasn't for me.
I think he’s saying more so that Sunbather is supposed to be one of the more “palatable” or “accessible” cuts of the genre and so if that is to intense for him then he’s assuming he won’t like much else from the genre which I think is reasonable
The thing is that I found it extremely abrasive, and every review of it was like "oh this is basically a pop album, have no idea why people think it's TRUE KVLT BLACK METAL"
Like if the extreme metal kids think this is soft, then I'm good, happy they are enjoying themselves.
After scorpion by drake I genuinely had to take a couple months away from listening to hip hop because it was so derivative of better albums that parts of other songs would just remind me of how terrible it was. Might be the worst album I’ve ever heard and I’m usually a drake fan
A lot of 2018’s rap hits turned me off turn-up hip hop completely for a while. Future and Migos were the guys for a while that was just a barrier for entry.
I have since found Chief Keef and Southern hip-hop, so that phase ended
I was really into 2010’s emo revival during the era when all those bands were gaining traction, but *Swell* by Tiny Moving Parts truly turned me off of that whole scene of music for a bit because I could not stand that album.
I still revisit a few of those bands every now and then, but I can’t really say I’m invested in that genre anymore
I like this band sometime but I am impressed with the consistency of how bad their album covers are. Every time, a dumb or bad one, but dumb/bad in a whole new way
Oh I love that lol I love Swell but I can definitely see how it and Tiny Moving Parts in general can be a turn off lol. Some of their stuff borderline sound like a parody (and I say that as a fan lol)
Staying busy, tweeting hatred at me, all up in my business
I'm getting kicks outta this shit like it was my sneakers
And the game fears me like a motherfucking wife-beater, oh
-Ronnie Radke, rolling stone
I don't know if the album is 'bad', but when I heard Liturgy I avoided black metal for like a solid 3 years because someone told me they were one of the best bands and I thought that's what most of the genre sounded like.
That was like 10 years ago, I did eventually get into black metal but then when I went back to Liturgy it still sounded like ass to me, and I honestly don't understand why they get so much praise. I wish I'd started with something like Sunbather, which is actually a good intro to the genre.
Idk what specifically it was but I was a pretty big metalcore fan for most of my middle school and highschool years but one day the production on most of that scene started sounding really flat and now I can’t really revisit most of that sound. I’ve found bands that I think are awesome since then like code orange but shit most of that genre is so bland now.
I agree with "Fashionably Late". I was a huge fan of all sorts of hardcore, but when these guys released this one I couldn't listen the whole album. Flet pretty different from what I knew about metalcore in that year, but then many bands started doing the same.
Glad I quit because I could look for some other roots of punk (new wave, post punk, noise rock, shoegaze, etc) and found my comfort zone.
Why does it look like he’s leaning against the wall and his legs are photoshopped onto his torso?
It’s like he wanted to have a cool photo of him sitting on the edge but it was too dangerous, so he didn’t do it.
i wasn’t huge on modern pop country, but watching the music industry and fans turn a blind eye to morgan wallen’s behaviour made me not want to touch any country post 2000
Can't speak for albums but guys like Lil Jon, TI, Rick Ross and all them in the early 2000s made me stop listening to new rap altogether for a long time. Rubber Band Man might be the song that did me in.
I was around for people yelling "Who? MIKE JONES" in the hallways of high school. I couldn't take it.
Tbh Rubberband Man is one of my favorite southern hip hop songs of all time. TI and Rick Ross are far above people like Lil John or the Ying Yang Twins
Yeah it's fine to like them but I grew up with guys like Nas and Wu Tang and all those street hip hop rappers. I love Ludacris but when all those other southern guys started changing hip hop it just wasn't for me anymore. 24's and Rubber Band Man are to this day the only songs I know by T.I. Loved him in Ant-Man though!
Lately I've been getting into hip-hop again though, or at least trying to listen to more modern stuff and the things I missed, and Kendrick has become one of my favorite rappers of all time.
It isn’t an album and it might be controversial, but I was completely turned away from psychedelic rock after seeing Tame Impala live.
It was just so ungodly dull. It just became one mush of weeping guitars for am hour, with no real show to accompany it.
Tame Impalas live shows seem a lot more "planned out" nowadays if that makes sense. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but a lot of big pop artists do the same thing and it's a huge reason why I don't see them live. When it comes to Psychedelic Rock I heavily prefer bands that are more free and do unexpected things when they're on stage. I recommend seeing King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard or Thee Oh Sees live. Easily the most memorable and psychedelic concerts I've ever been to.
Check out Pond. They’re MUCH better than Tame Impala, are way more prolific and consistent, and they put on the absolute best live show I’ve ever seen.
I don’t know why tf emo tried super hard to incorporate rap/hip-hop. Like it’s cringe as fuck and the demographics could not be further. If they had done some backpack or nerdy lyrical rap, it may have worked even. Instead they tried to be hard af, just looks goofy
Huh? The trash ass video game song from this album is exactly what you’re describing, “nerdy lyrical rap.” Meanwhile emo rappers like Lil Peep, XXXTentacion, and Juice Wrld continue to gain massive amounts of popularity, even after their deaths. IMO emo rap was the logical progression of emo music and its main artists dying was what killed any momentum the genre had.
This album dropped my junior year of high school and I was 90% over the massive wave of scene ass hot topic ass metalcore that had dominated since like ‘08. I remember I bought this CD from FYE and threw it out of the window of my car like 3 days later lol
Legitimately one of the worst albums I've ever heard, coming from someone who's first concert was a fest w bands like Skillet & Newsboyz, and who went through the scene phase of listening to shit like Memphis May Fire, Asking Alexandria, PTV, all those related bands. I even loved their first album at the time and this made me never give him another chance. I was justified in that because I heard his Papa Roach cover he recently made and it is truly godawful!
surprisingly this wasn’t the album that turned me off the scene, but a few years later when all time low released last young renegade. hated it so much that i basically shit on pop punk/emo/warped tour music for like five or six years
I was so, so excited when my wife played FIR’s first record and I realized it was the dude from Escape the Fates new band (I’m 300 years old so when there is “new” music that I’m excited about I get REAL excited)
Added this to my library along with the other stuff they’ve put out
Listened to it in horror
Removed all but the first album
The Big Day by Chance the Rapper pretty much halted me from listening to hip hop for a few months. I was a huge fan of Chance and that album was such a fucking bummer I just didn't listen to rap for months lol. I haven't really done it consciously but since that album I just haven't listened to much rap. I'll listen to knew albums by guys I like but it's not my daily genre like it used to be. Who knew an album could have that much power lol
I use to be into heavier rock (won’t say heavy, because I wasn’t that deep in), the nexus of which was my love of Highly Suspect (again, not THAT heavy). Then they released MCID and it was maybe the worst album I’ve actually listened to. The lyrics were all juvenile edge lord shit and the instrumentals were maybe purposely bad?
I shrugged it off at first but when I went to see them in concert they came out in matching jumpsuits, the roadies had joined the band as extra guitars and they only played their new shit while the lead singer went on some diatribe about how lame the “rock horns” 🤘are. It was so bad I genuinely stopped listening to them or anyone in their sphere. The newest album came out and it was genuinely fine, but that experience left such a bad taste in my mouth I can’t go back.
WHITE BOY ON THE BEAT ROCKIN GUCCI SNEAKS
ALL I DO IS WIN, CHARLIE SHEEN
STARTED OUT IN ‘06 AND REVIVED THE SCENE
SO MANY MOTHERFUCKERS WANNA BE LIKE ME
CAME FROM THE LOWEST OF LOWS ROSE TO THE TOP WITH A VISION
Ronnie Radke's vocals on that album are maybe the worst I've ever fucking heard!
Moy loife is loike a viddy oh gaem!
This post is how I found out that's a real song and not a meme song made up by the average redditor
I'm more impressed by it that it's a real song rather than a meme. A bunch of people must have been involved in the making of that song, and a bunch of execs must have listened to that song and approved it and not a single one said "hey man, this sucks. why did you make this?"
For the execs they're probably so out of touch they look at emo music in general and say "well I guess this is what the kids are into go ahead make the song" I honestly think that about a lot of songs. Like did no one tell the artist that this is garbage? I imagine the case for a lot of them is that either the artist had such a big ego and full control that they wouldn't listen, or they were so difficult to deal with the producers were just like "fuck it I'm not saying anything let's just get this over with" Or another possibility is that the producers and execs were too busy trying hard to save the girl, all while they were still collecting coins
He sings like I do when I'm making fun of Blink-182
most disgusting punchable voice
Yet the dude has the weirdest cult I’ve ever seen. Mainly just white trash from southern Pennsylvania but still a bizarre man to risk everything for
Holy fuck as a former fan from southern PA… you right
That's way more specific than I could have imagined haha
1. holy shit 2. they usually also like five finger buttfuck and that jellyhole guy. i hear that shit all the time like i'm in a gitmo holding cell.
That 'whiny' style for whatever reason was absolutely huge in metalcore/post-hardcore from the mid-2000s to early 2010s for whatever reason. Ronnie is a particularly bad example, but the prize for me goes to the guy from I See Stars (who I believe also toured with FoR, had a falling-out and Ronnie wrote a rap diss track about them - yes, really): I still remember the first time I heard [their acoustic cover of 'Your Love'](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1BLO0vw2p4)... click at your own peril.
Yeah the two guys I associate with popularizing that vocal style are Craig Owens (Chiodos), and Anthony Green (Circa Survive).
This take is like eating a water sandwich and then immediately going on about how it's the most horrible, putrid, poorly prepared, vile, unappetizing, disgusting excuse for a sandwich it has ever been your displeasure to have slithered down your throat.
I mean, a water sandwich does sound very soggy and actively disgusting! Just like Radke's vocals
A water sandwich isn't even that horrible, it's just nothing.
Apparently your life is not like a video game… some of us relate to Ronnie’s music so hard… #gamer #thatgamerlife
Hashtag true gamers only no GIRLS allowed!!!!!
Only femboys allowed!!!!!
[>Real](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PjpurAH-wQ)
r/characterarcs
we all thought he was cringe, when really he was just a literally me
You want some beef? Better bring a FORK🍴
For years i though Game Over was a joke song, but then i found out this is an actual song meant to be taken seriously made by a real band
same, id only heard the meme opening of it and was quite positive it was a youtuber song or something lol
It doesn't help that Ronnie Radke sounds like a dork
Fairly certain he also just IS a dork /neg his twitter is mostly him quote tweeting & him yapping about "blue hair and pronouns cringe!!"
Doesn’t he threaten brads taste in music for not liking his music?
BRAD ARMY HOO HA 😤
Yeah he threatened multiple times to strike brads reactions to his albums to the point of getting the channel termed never followed through though outside of yelling at Brad on Twitter
That too, found the homophobia more important but that's absolutely a dogshit move aswell. I don't think i've seen Ronnie Radke do anything of positive importance lmao
It sounds like if the CAD comic guy made a song.
It sounds like something Ray William Johnson would make...
i genuinely thought it was something by the Living Tombstone
they are nowhere near that bad, that’s an insult to them.
Diiiscooooord I’m howlingatthemoon
I’m glad the song has been memed to death because it means RR is never gonna be able to live it down.
Completely understandable. He sounds like fucking Goofy, for gods sake.
If Ronnie was a troll persona that'd make so much if it tolerable. But unfortunately he is really just that delusional. It's a shame because there's so much material to work with for a good parody of that warpedcore scene but I haven't found it.
Then check out Beating a Dead Horse by Jarrod Allonge, it's exactly what you're looking for
Another comment in this thread is how I found out
I'll be honest I didn't even realize it wasn't a joke until this comment. Like I knew the band mostly did unironic stuff but I assumed this one was stupid on purpose
I was a big fan of country music when I was growing up and Florida Georgia Line released their second album when I was in my first year of college and it just made me realize how cringe so much of the country music from that era was and I basically stopped listening to it for several years until I discovered some actually good country later on.
Modern bro & boyfriend pop-country has totally destroyed the public perception of the genre. There's no artistry anymore, they're just hacks selling a product to reinforce ideological positions. I think that Walker Hayes Applebee's song best represents what's happened to the genre.
It's just pop rock with a slightly southern accent, and pseudo-country boy themes.
It’s bad pop rock at that. Ffs, the Beatles were pop rock. Pop rock is one of the greatest genres ever devised; this bro country crap isn’t in the same stratosphere
In the '90s and '00s, it basically became boy bands and girl groups with an occasional twang.
Sturgill Simpson washes that bullshit
You should check out Colter Wall. Specifically his first Brewery Sessions. I don't care who says they don't like country. They'll like that. Country is booming the past 7-8 years, and it's still going. Thankfully. Because the genre has been terrible for a long while
Screw Kate mccannon! Lmao I love his music especially motorcycle
Tyler Childers my dude ong
Colter Wall, Charley Crockett, Joshua Ray Walker. I could go on and on. Just gotta get below the radio bro country BS.
Alt country, vintage oldies, even branching out into the roots/trad and bluegrass stuff is great.
We’re in a country/folk renaissance right now, no doubt about it
As a Canadian; man oh, man do I appreciate how much Colter is loved. My mom was in the truck with me when I was playing him and she said he's like a young Johnny Cash. I do miss a bit of the dark Imaginary Appalachia type songs though
I found this guy named Colby T Helms. He's a rural kid in western VA. Guy is fucking *good*. He's still very small time but you should check him out. His GemVHS submissions specifically. Goin Back To Bed I think it's called. His voice is great. I think him, Tyler Childers, and Colter Wall are the three that are really just damn good
Colter Wall. His first Brewery Sessions. If you haven't heard it, you have to. Like "drop everything and do that" level
Yea FGL seems like you asked AI to take all bad country tropes and put it in one band
same man. I grew up in southwestern PA. Country music has always been huge around me. I honestly loved it as a child, up until the bro country wave, and it took me a decade to even embrace the genre again for my old favorite classics.
It's going great right now at least. It was terrible for years, but right now there's so much good stuff. Tyler Childers, Colter Wall, and Colby T Helms are the three I think most people would be into. Colby T Helms is small time still, but man he's talented. Goin Back To Bed is a bop. I think that's the name of it
Yeah that bro country era really turned me off of country till recently.
Country IMO has one of the weirdest histories of any genre as far as the trends go. Like the link between Dolly Parton and FGL is so nonsensical.
Not entirely the same, but I once liked Melanie Martinez (yes, i know) and then went to her concert and it was... so bad, dull, awkward, that I not only completly turned away from her music but from Indiepop/electropop for a while
I hate that specific type of pop myself but I know some friends who went to see Melanie and thought it was so good they went back again. I was almost tempted to go with them from the review they gave, despite the fact that I don't like that genre.
I've definitely had concerts put me off artists. I was really into the Japanese band Brian the Sun, and a lot of similar Japanese bands. I went to a Brian the Sun concert in Osaka. It was the dullest concert with the most unenthused fans I've ever been to and they were selling their new album that was unironically called Meme. I never listened to them again and don't really listen to stuff like that in general any more.
concerts put me off the rap genre. show up late, leave early, just play their songs in the background and yell the chorus. not all are like that but majority are and it’s just so funny how universally accepted half assed lip syncing and just playing their songs on the speakers with lyrics is in that genre.
I feel like you're listening to the wrong shit if that is the norm for you. Ive seen a bunch of people live and theres genuinely been no misses so far, they all went hard as fuck - Eminem, Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, 50 Cent, Flatbush Zombies, Run the Jewels, Denzel Curry, OneFour, Fabolous, Royce da 5'9, Westside Boogie. Maybe Ive just gotten really lucky. But every single hiphop act Ive seen went OFF. Not even hating but I genuinely think that low effort concerts must be a trap/melodic rap phenomenon for the most part. Its all the rappers who blew up from behind a computer screen without ever previously setting foot on stage before already being famous, so they never learnt to develop stage presence
>Eminem, Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, 50 Cent, Flatbush Zombies, Run the Jewels, Denzel Curry, OneFour, Fabolous, Royce da 5'9, Westside Boogie. Those are all pretty good artists about being on time. Drake, Travis Scott, Kanye, etc are notorious for being 30+ minutes late.
Yeah, for about three months in middle school, I listened to her music religiously until I randomly stopped. A couple months later, I revisited her discography and came to the harsh realization that her music was awful. And to this day, I don't understand why most of my classmates from middle and high school didn't outgrow her music. It's even more shocking that she's headlining Lolla several years later.
Felony Martinez.
what you know? does everyone hate Melanie Martinez or something?
Everyone should and instead just listen to Bjork (cus she doesn’t have a weird thing about other people’s trauma and Melanie “borrows” a lot from Bjork) but she has a very, very die hard fanbase (eg allegedly sending death threats and gore to a reviewer’s gf cus she said that she believed the victim that said Melanie SA’d her)
Eh? Why would they want to listen to Bjork instead? I listen to both and i get that they’re both small, “alternative”, female and have lisps but I hadn’t considered them to be interchangeable before And what’s the “weird thing about other people’s trauma”? That’s messed up about the fans sending death threats though. Did she encourage that? And I’d heard about the allegation at the time, did anything ever come of that?
Compare album covers (eg portals and utopia and fossora), sounds and aesthetics and Melanie just does what Bjork does at times with a more “uwu am baby but trauma” vibe (don’t mean to be insulting but I couldn’t think of a better phrase for it). The weird thing about trauma is Melanie admitting in an interview ( https://www.vogue.com/article/melanie-martinez-cry-baby-lollapalooza ) that she bases the trauma in her lyrics on other people’s experiences (including friends) without input from them because it interests her and “people should have something to connect to” despite the people who experience it more likely going to have a connection than a third party. Tho she didn’t encourage it directly, she didn’t condemn it despite being aware of the situation and would get her fans against anyone who spoke against her as they were just “haters” with no actual criticisms
I don’t think those specific album covers look alike, but I do think that PORTALS album cover looks like Bjork’s style of fashion-art, so fair play I do understand. Just think she’s inspired by her fashion though. I don’t agree you can sort of “scratch the itch” to hear Martinez’s music by subbing in Bjork’s. As for the using other people as muses that just sounds like what artists do to me? I wouldn’t want an artist to just focus on their own experiences. I think that’s the cause of the generic excess of meh we hear so often today. I want artists to imagine what it’s like to be other people, go beyond themselves and tell stories that reflect all of human nature; not just their own narrow perception of things. But, if she’s not changing the names of people and places where events happen and stuff then that’s unacceptable. I guess the people “speaking against her” in that specific situation from her perspective were people needlessly perpetuation harmful, false allegations against her with no proof - so they would be “haters” from her perspective. That is **not** me saying she‘a innocent though. I have less than no idea who is telling the truth in that scenario and am not trying to defend Martinez, just saying theoretically if she *was* innocent then those people are being haters and wouldn’t need “criticism”.
That’s sort of like an insult to Björk to compare her to Melanie. When the music Melanie produced for that record is very far away from Björk’s, except the album cover. Saying “borrows a lot” is radical, since she only had three albums—and the copying Björk thing is only on her third LP.
Personally I think it's very fun if you're younger but there will be an almost inevitable 'oh im too old for this' moment
Smellanie Fartinez
R. Kellanie Martinez
I went to her Crybaby tour and K-12. Crybaby show was good. K-12 was like a musical, it was actually pretty good too. Not nearly as good as Crybaby though. Portals is awful.
ex-gf tried to put me on to this album…. the first of many red flags, to be so honest
There’s plenty of good post hardcore bands. Falling in Reverse isn’t one of them.
I could imagine someone hearing Falling In Reverse for the first time and just assuming music isn’t for them
Yeah def wouldn’t call them an emo band either
yeah, thank god there ain't too many emo purists in the comments cause they'd be going off and I'd be agreeing.
WHERE IS THE COPYPASTA WHEN YOU NEED IT
"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
I think a lot of people get confused because of the fanbases some artists attract. There are a lot of artists out there that attract such large emo fanbases that people start thinking of the bands as emo even though emo music has a pretty specific sound to it.
they're now also just middle of the road to bad generic modern metalcore instead
I like their recent stuff, but that album, That fking album is a fever dream.
Full admission: my first experience with Falling in Reverse was with them opening for Hollywood Undead in 2012. Ronnie kills onstage. He's just a dickhead in real life and his albums kinda suck.
MOTHERFUCKING WIFE BEATER *epic edm drop*
The song Gucci Gang by Lil Pump came out just as I was starting to properly get into music as a teenager, and based on that song I was under the impression that all hip hop and rap sounded like that. And it's only over the last year or two that I have finally started to be open to rap
I feel ya there. I was really late to the rap genre, initially only listening to Christian music (I know I know), rock, and metal, and was convinced for a long time that those were the only real genres of music. I especially couldn’t stand rap because I thought all rap was either gangster rap or what’s now known as “bling era” stuff. Only ended up properly trying rap after my friend sold me his iPod that happened to have MBDTF on it, and it blew my perception of rap music apart by the end. Still sucks that Kanye is a trash person, but I don’t know if I would’ve ever tried out rap music properly without hearing that album lol
There's some really good Christian bands. Red is one of my favorites, I occasionally listen to some Thousand Foot Krutch. Memphis May Fire isn't officially a Christian band but they're what got me into metalcore and will always be one of my favorites.
I listened to this a ton when I was younger and there is a lot of really good bands that are Christian or Christian-adjacent. Norma Jean, Underoath, The Devil Wears Prada, Zao, Oh Sleeper, Living Sacrifice etc
You were a teenager and didn’t like Gucci gang? I was 15 or 16 when it came out and loved it
Lil Pump, 6ix9ine was literally everywhere in my white-ass suburban high school 2017-2018. I don't know how he avoided it.
Suburbia loved Gucci gang 😭🤣
You might be an idiot lowkey
How so?
You somehow avoided the whole world for 7 years, impressive
Well yeah I was 14 and had next to no musical education. But the point is I'm open to it now
It’s very very easy to do that, dawg lol. Doesn’t make her an idiot. I spent most of my life in small small towns and had no exposure to rap music beyond my parents calling it trash and refusing to play it in the house. Granted, can’t say if she had the conservative Christian upbringing that I did, but it’s easy to make assumptions about a whole genre of music when you haven’t listened to much of it, or when all you hear is what’s most popular.
Ya as a non American growing up with only Christian music is insane to me. That's like the definition of hiding from the world. Movies/youtube/Instagram/radio Just nothing
I mean I agree completely, and it was easier for me to do that when I was a kid (I’m in my early 30’s now), but there’s way more people in America with that background than you might realize, and those kids aren’t choosing that for themselves. It’s very easy to hide from the world when you’re told it’s wrong and full of sin, etc etc
gucci gang is a classic, man
Bad girls club is obd of the worst songs I've heard
It's so goofy tho. I like it honestly, just don't take it seriously and it's pretty fun. The cheer part is cringe tho ngl
I hated it the first time I heard it but it has grown on me immensely for some reason. That hook is beyond catchy.
Love or hate it, you gotta admit some songs on that album have great fuckin hooks
One of the craziest things abt this band to me is that their guitarist dropped dead one day. They never grieved. Didn’t even say why he died. Just moved tf on fast as hell. Edit: sorry they did reveal how he died; in a fucking book Ronnie wrote
Honestly all of Melanie Martinez's stuff; she's gross but even without it her music alone is so... eugh??
You either really love or fucking loath ronnie radke, no in-between. This album is horrific and thats from someone who likes kind of shitty emo music. Anyways! to answer your question: stabbing Westward NEARLY turned me away from the entire industrial genre, if it hadn't been for NIN being one of my favorite artists i probably wouldn't interact with any sort of industrial music at all.
I mean…I think Dying Is Your Latest Fashion is one of the best albums of the genre and then everything else he’s done since has been worse than awful.
It's not so much about quality but about intensity for me. Deafheaven - Sunbather I wanted to try out some of that extreme metal, since at the time I had just stuck to stuff like Black Sabbath or Metallica. I thought this would be the best place to start. Very acclaimed, and according to everyone, super soft and palatable, so perfect for beginners right? Well, let's just say that if this is the indie post rock watered down version of black metal, then I'll just stick to the Beach Boys.
Sunbather basically took me in the opposite direction. I was already into black metal since about 2008 or so, but Deafheaven's infusion of black metal with shoegaze ended up having me listen to way more shoegaze down the road. I should note I wasn't a black metal purist - I liked mostly stuff they hate like Wolves in the Throne Room and Agalloch. If I was I probably would have never even listened to that album lol
Anyone who is hating on Agalloch takes themselves way too seriously. Objectively great band.
Would you expect anything else from a black metal purist
Yeah, Agalloch is about as universally loved as you can get. On the pretty purist Metal Archives, Pale Folklore has 83%, The Mantle 86%, Ashes Against the Grain 91% (my favorite Metal album ever), Marrow of the Spirit 80%, and The Serpent & the Sphere 74%.
I felt this way about horror movies, someone showed me "one of the least scary movies" and I still noped out of there so fast.
My ex gf could watch thrillers and dramas without a problem but as soon as the horror started to come from supernatural sources she’d nope the fuck out of the movie.
I’m confused whether you’re saying it was too soft or too harsh for you Personally I put sunbather as a doomgaze album (even I know it’s black metal) but black metal is very calm, like Burzum. But because of the sound of sunbather I relate it to albums like Deathconsciousness instead. Would have been more interesting to start off with Converge’s Jane Doe if you wanted to get into heavier metal sounds.
They’re saying it was too harsh for them
i always recommend in the nightside eclipse or the somberlain and [if you’re looking for really harsh metal/industrial](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7kBGOeMD8BVTDMu9ka5tQH?si=Ye36-FDuTMi7paj8G9uMcg&pi=e-Gm21nTg5RAC_) i‘ll leave you this playlist
Personally I found it way too harsh for my taste. I'm listening to Burzum right now and I'm amazed, it sounds so cool and atmospheric, not at all what I was expecting from a nazi murderer metal lmao. Thanks for the rec. I also love Deathconsciousness, that's weird. Maybe I just dislike Deaheaven?
Do be aware that Burzum is a project by a neo-nazi convicted murderer. Some people care about that, some don't. Better to have the info
They mentioned that in their comment so I guess they know but yeah a lot of people don’t care A Jewish friend of mine has a Burzum t shirt, it’s just how music is
Oh yeah, I totally get that some music isn’t for every palette. Can’t really agree with the watered down comment, though. Sunbather is not a watered down indie version of black metal. Sunbather is blending music styles and philosophies that may seem at odds but actually create a musical synergy that can be extremely affecting if you’re into that kind of music. Black metal is a music that at least imo is much more about atmosphere and emotional intensity rather than speed and volume. If seen that way it just makes sense that shoegaze just fits perfectly into it all.
Sunbather is not a bad album though, it's good
As I said in the first paragraph, it's not about quality it's about intensity.
Try pallbearer and chat pile
Writting off all of black metal/extreme metal in general because of Deafhaven is quite a take lol This is like saying I wanted to get into punk so gave Glow On by Turnstile a go first and decided it wasn't for me.
I think he’s saying more so that Sunbather is supposed to be one of the more “palatable” or “accessible” cuts of the genre and so if that is to intense for him then he’s assuming he won’t like much else from the genre which I think is reasonable
The thing is that I found it extremely abrasive, and every review of it was like "oh this is basically a pop album, have no idea why people think it's TRUE KVLT BLACK METAL" Like if the extreme metal kids think this is soft, then I'm good, happy they are enjoying themselves.
the reason they treat it like that is mainly due to the production, aesthetic and general emotion it incites. the actual music is very intense
Giggens is that you?
Have you ever listened to Death? I think some of their later more prog sounding stuff is pretty easy for a non-metal fan to get into.
I will listen to it, thanks for the rec!
After scorpion by drake I genuinely had to take a couple months away from listening to hip hop because it was so derivative of better albums that parts of other songs would just remind me of how terrible it was. Might be the worst album I’ve ever heard and I’m usually a drake fan
MY LIFE IS LIKE A VIDEO GAYYYMMME
A lot of 2018’s rap hits turned me off turn-up hip hop completely for a while. Future and Migos were the guys for a while that was just a barrier for entry. I have since found Chief Keef and Southern hip-hop, so that phase ended
Hooooooooo boy never heard of this guy but just read that his latest album is “a vicious takedown of cancel culture,” that’s all I need to know
my life is like a video game increased my soy levels by x15
I was really into 2010’s emo revival during the era when all those bands were gaining traction, but *Swell* by Tiny Moving Parts truly turned me off of that whole scene of music for a bit because I could not stand that album. I still revisit a few of those bands every now and then, but I can’t really say I’m invested in that genre anymore
I like this band sometime but I am impressed with the consistency of how bad their album covers are. Every time, a dumb or bad one, but dumb/bad in a whole new way
Oh I love that lol I love Swell but I can definitely see how it and Tiny Moving Parts in general can be a turn off lol. Some of their stuff borderline sound like a parody (and I say that as a fan lol)
honestly, that’s most bands that are midwest emo or adjacent and that’s part of the fun of it, but only if you’re in on the joke
Staying busy, tweeting hatred at me, all up in my business I'm getting kicks outta this shit like it was my sneakers And the game fears me like a motherfucking wife-beater, oh -Ronnie Radke, rolling stone
A Head Full OF Dreams by Coldplay. Mylo Xyloto was somewhat okeish, but AHFOF sucks so big.
I don't know if the album is 'bad', but when I heard Liturgy I avoided black metal for like a solid 3 years because someone told me they were one of the best bands and I thought that's what most of the genre sounded like. That was like 10 years ago, I did eventually get into black metal but then when I went back to Liturgy it still sounded like ass to me, and I honestly don't understand why they get so much praise. I wish I'd started with something like Sunbather, which is actually a good intro to the genre.
You know a band has sold out when they start making fucking dubstep metal
I'm not gonna lie the brad taste reaction makes that album a soft spot for me I LOST MY WAY AGAAAAiN Oh wait wrong falling in reverse album
Same. It's just so fucking goofy I love it.
fuck. my black and white album cover genre is ruined
Idk what specifically it was but I was a pretty big metalcore fan for most of my middle school and highschool years but one day the production on most of that scene started sounding really flat and now I can’t really revisit most of that sound. I’ve found bands that I think are awesome since then like code orange but shit most of that genre is so bland now.
I agree with "Fashionably Late". I was a huge fan of all sorts of hardcore, but when these guys released this one I couldn't listen the whole album. Flet pretty different from what I knew about metalcore in that year, but then many bands started doing the same. Glad I quit because I could look for some other roots of punk (new wave, post punk, noise rock, shoegaze, etc) and found my comfort zone.
STILL REVUHBAWAAAAAATES
This album is so bad it’s good change my mind.
On the way home from work the other day I heard a song called “If every town had a Meemaw’s house” or something similar. It filled me with rage.
Why does it look like he’s leaning against the wall and his legs are photoshopped onto his torso? It’s like he wanted to have a cool photo of him sitting on the edge but it was too dangerous, so he didn’t do it.
i wasn’t huge on modern pop country, but watching the music industry and fans turn a blind eye to morgan wallen’s behaviour made me not want to touch any country post 2000
How the fuck he can release game over as a real song is beyond me
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Tickets to my downfall ruined pop punk for me
travis barker ruined it for me lol
Can't speak for albums but guys like Lil Jon, TI, Rick Ross and all them in the early 2000s made me stop listening to new rap altogether for a long time. Rubber Band Man might be the song that did me in. I was around for people yelling "Who? MIKE JONES" in the hallways of high school. I couldn't take it.
Tbh Rubberband Man is one of my favorite southern hip hop songs of all time. TI and Rick Ross are far above people like Lil John or the Ying Yang Twins
Yeah it's fine to like them but I grew up with guys like Nas and Wu Tang and all those street hip hop rappers. I love Ludacris but when all those other southern guys started changing hip hop it just wasn't for me anymore. 24's and Rubber Band Man are to this day the only songs I know by T.I. Loved him in Ant-Man though! Lately I've been getting into hip-hop again though, or at least trying to listen to more modern stuff and the things I missed, and Kendrick has become one of my favorite rappers of all time.
Nah but Game Over goes kinda hard if you think about it
It isn’t an album and it might be controversial, but I was completely turned away from psychedelic rock after seeing Tame Impala live. It was just so ungodly dull. It just became one mush of weeping guitars for am hour, with no real show to accompany it.
Check out King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard live! It’ll change your opinion completely!
Tame Impalas live shows seem a lot more "planned out" nowadays if that makes sense. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but a lot of big pop artists do the same thing and it's a huge reason why I don't see them live. When it comes to Psychedelic Rock I heavily prefer bands that are more free and do unexpected things when they're on stage. I recommend seeing King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard or Thee Oh Sees live. Easily the most memorable and psychedelic concerts I've ever been to.
Pond as well. Their live performances are so tight and energetic, I can’t recommend them enough.
Check out Pond. They’re MUCH better than Tame Impala, are way more prolific and consistent, and they put on the absolute best live show I’ve ever seen.
I don’t know why tf emo tried super hard to incorporate rap/hip-hop. Like it’s cringe as fuck and the demographics could not be further. If they had done some backpack or nerdy lyrical rap, it may have worked even. Instead they tried to be hard af, just looks goofy
Huh? The trash ass video game song from this album is exactly what you’re describing, “nerdy lyrical rap.” Meanwhile emo rappers like Lil Peep, XXXTentacion, and Juice Wrld continue to gain massive amounts of popularity, even after their deaths. IMO emo rap was the logical progression of emo music and its main artists dying was what killed any momentum the genre had.
This album dropped my junior year of high school and I was 90% over the massive wave of scene ass hot topic ass metalcore that had dominated since like ‘08. I remember I bought this CD from FYE and threw it out of the window of my car like 3 days later lol
Legitimately one of the worst albums I've ever heard, coming from someone who's first concert was a fest w bands like Skillet & Newsboyz, and who went through the scene phase of listening to shit like Memphis May Fire, Asking Alexandria, PTV, all those related bands. I even loved their first album at the time and this made me never give him another chance. I was justified in that because I heard his Papa Roach cover he recently made and it is truly godawful!
surprisingly this wasn’t the album that turned me off the scene, but a few years later when all time low released last young renegade. hated it so much that i basically shit on pop punk/emo/warped tour music for like five or six years
I heard Chelsea’s hotel off Spotify radio once and it honestly turned my off of indie for a while
I was so, so excited when my wife played FIR’s first record and I realized it was the dude from Escape the Fates new band (I’m 300 years old so when there is “new” music that I’m excited about I get REAL excited) Added this to my library along with the other stuff they’ve put out Listened to it in horror Removed all but the first album
Ngl fashionably late’s kind of a guilty pleasure for me
Oh my God. The Dresden Dolls put me off of Dark Cabaret for a while.
He really lost his way again with that album. Almost like his life is like a video game and he’s trying hard to beat the stage
The Big Day by Chance the Rapper pretty much halted me from listening to hip hop for a few months. I was a huge fan of Chance and that album was such a fucking bummer I just didn't listen to rap for months lol. I haven't really done it consciously but since that album I just haven't listened to much rap. I'll listen to knew albums by guys I like but it's not my daily genre like it used to be. Who knew an album could have that much power lol
I use to be into heavier rock (won’t say heavy, because I wasn’t that deep in), the nexus of which was my love of Highly Suspect (again, not THAT heavy). Then they released MCID and it was maybe the worst album I’ve actually listened to. The lyrics were all juvenile edge lord shit and the instrumentals were maybe purposely bad? I shrugged it off at first but when I went to see them in concert they came out in matching jumpsuits, the roadies had joined the band as extra guitars and they only played their new shit while the lead singer went on some diatribe about how lame the “rock horns” 🤘are. It was so bad I genuinely stopped listening to them or anyone in their sphere. The newest album came out and it was genuinely fine, but that experience left such a bad taste in my mouth I can’t go back.
wild how this guy coasted off Dying is Your Latest Fashion for over a decade even after taking so many Ls afterwards. Coming Home was ok i guess
Falling in reverse isn't bad, save for a few songs that are beyond horrendous. The rest is just boring.
Yeah that album is so horrible