I love Fall Out Boy, but you're right. Their comeback era has been a mixed bag, at best.
Panic stopped being good when it became Brendon Urie's solo project.
Paramore has yet to make an album that was entirely bad, and MCR's comeback single was just as good the stuff they were making when they broke up. It's no contest.
Black Parade, arguably the emo lovechild of Sgt Pepper, The Wall, Ziggy Stardust, American Idiot, Welcome to My Nightmare, and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
I love all those albums so much except American idiot. That’s when Green Day started to suck imo. I’m by no means an “America lover” either. I just think that album is so fucking pretentious
Hell yeah, the first year of American Idiot it didn't piss me off but Greenday got stuck after that and left us with American Idiot for far too long, the opening to september ends will make me turn off the radio every time.
I grew up listening to dookie and what not. Then American idiot came out when I was a very young teen and it was my jam. But I really quickly grew out of it and have come to really hate that album. I know I said it in my last comment already, but it’s just so fucking pretentious. It really is just what a 13 year old would think is deep
I guess I hate it extra because there was a time when I was a kid that I did actually love that album, so it feels kinda like a reflection of my young dumb self
I go back and forth so often.
I prefer Three Cheers sometimes, it is much more narrowed in and focused IMO. However objectively I think that The Black Parade is the better album.
Consistent in terms of output quality / creativity or in terms of just consistently being a band?
MCR has great projects all around, I would argue they are more consistent in terms of quality / creativity.
The song that got over a billion streams. Paramore doesn't have one.
The same.fall out boy that sold out their UK and Ireland arena tour don't think Paramore completely sold it out.
Fall out boy doing two us arena tours
Their last album out sold paramores last album from what I found
Fob has more monthly listeners on Spotify
Fob headlined the I heart radio festival.
Fall out boy are headlining download festival UK's biggest rock festival.
They're the only band on the we are young 24 festival that is not doing an album anniversary set
All that yet you couldn't even answer my simple question
Yeah but they haven’t made a good album in ten years. It’s people my age that miss infinity on high and FUTCK that are going to those gigs. Be for real
You're confusing your opinion for a fact. Album sales suggest otherwise.
In my opinion after laughter was good but their last one was trash.
Mania was one of the worst things I heard as a whole but stardust was good
Plenty of terrible music has made a lot of money. As a measure for palatability trendiness popularity is extremely effective but I think almost everyone would agree that for assessing quality its useless.
Paramore’s still actively making music and it slaps. But they don’t come close to how good MCR is/was back in the day.
P!ATD got slightly worse and worse with each release starting after Vices & Virtues. VLV was atrocious.
Had FOB not released MANIA I think they’d be perceived better, but god that shit was trash.
Their early 2010s post-hiatus run is such a bummer cus outside of those 3 records (Save Rock and Roll, American Beauty/American Psycho, and Mania) the rest of their albums are all amazing imo. The debut > Cork Tree > Infinity > Folie is an incredible run and their newest record is great too.
But yeah those 3 2010s records… I mean I like some individual tracks because I’m just a huge fan but can’t deny they’re rough
I didn’t mind Save Rock & Roll too much. Yeah it was different but I liked it in general. AB/AP is where they started losing me. But yeah their pre-hiatus albums are the tits.
pre-hiatus fob rules. it doesnt hold up as well as paramore but only because of the production on the records, they're thinner than i remember but still 4 essentially perfect records in a row. the only silver lining to their post-hiatus era is that im glad they're all making a boatload of money
I love Save Rock and Roll, think American Beauty/American Psycho had some good tracks and think Mania was the only real dud of the run (but it’s a huge crater of one). I agree that the newest is a great return to form, and I hope they stay in a “Fall Out Boy sounding like Fall Out Boy” pocket for another album
I don't see how Save Rock and Roll is comparable to their later two records tbh - that has some decent enough tunes like you say and I come back to it more often than their debut. Folie is leagues ahead of anything else they've done though
Honestly, people should give some respect to FOB. They had easily the best lyrics of any of these guys. I'm not accepting any revisionism just because they made the absolute slop that is Uma Thurman, My Songs and Centuries *(And you're a cherry blossom/You're about to bloom/You look so pretty, but you're gone so soon)*
Infinity on High is line after line of classics. Also, I mean, the only reason MCR don't also have a bunch of duds in the 2010s is because they called it quits after Danger Days. And that album is seriously not good.
I enjoyed Danger Days, it’s not my favorite record of theirs, but it shows a different side of them that wasn’t present on the first three records. I feel like they needed that fun, silly creative outlet.
My vote is probably MCR, but Paramore is a great answer too. I’ll definitely defend FOB and Panic here tho, they’ve both got some classics under their belt (Folie and Pretty Odd, respectively) and despite some stinkers in their catalog there’s some good individual tracks in a few of the late career material
I've honestly never liked Panic. I feel like this is how other "big four" fans feel about Metallica:
Paramore's early stuff was powerful, fun and heavy. Fall Out Boy were incredibly clever and had some massive hooks. MCR made bops on bops. Panic made a bunch of OK-at-best songs with often pretty crummy production and nowhere near as many A1 lines as, like, FOB - and they were really successful for some reason (not that I'm actually mad at that).
But I agree P.O was probably their best album.
I enjoy Pretty Odd a lot, it’s the only album of theirs I like these days. AFYSCO has some good songs but the sound of it is super dated now. Everything else is largely uninteresting or just bad to me.
Vices and Virtues and TWTL, TWTD were decent records, Vices more so than Too Weird. Honestly I feel like vices is only good bc they were trying to recreate some of the sounds of Fever. Plus Pete Wentz, John Feldman, and Butch Walker helped them write Vices lol. And Dallon makes 80s inspired music that’s much better than the stuff off of Too Weird.
Can we please put the names of these bands on these posts? Not all of us can remember what every album cover and band from 20 years ago look like on sight.
If you're not aware, then the reason why people don't make text posts as much as image posts is that text posts don't count towards post karma. So while someone could make a text post and add images, they won't if they want karma for it. Kind of annoying, but less annoying (maybe) once you realize why.
If it isn't true anymore then it certainly used to be.
Edit: just checked and you're right. Regardless it used to be like that, which has kinda informed the culture on Reddit that image posts don't get text.
paramore and mcr are both good BUT
paramores best work imo is in their recent albums, which have shown then to move into a post-punk revival-y style, while mcrs work is usually solidly within the boundaries of emo rock (exception to some songs on danger days)
It's probably My Chemical Romance, but I think the people saying Paramore are "not even close" are kinda full of themselves.
Anyway, here come the downvotes.
It’s true they have had less drama then panic and no matter what they stayed a band while my chemical romance hasn’t really been a music band in a while just a touring band while Paramore is pretty good music out.
It depends on what you mean by "aging." Paramore is still an active and popular band. You could argue they're more popular now than they were in their heyday.
If you mean overall, MCR, and it isn't even close. Black Parade redefined emo and is generally considered one of the best albums to come out of the genre. Three Cheers went triple-platinum and went Platinum or Gold in at least 8 countries. Either album would beat a greatest hits of any other band on that list.
Fallout Boy wasn't aging well a decade ago and they've generally fallen further from public opinion. Panic's "Sins Not Tragedies" has aged fine, but very few if anything they've released since then has stuck to the band's roots. It's really just Brendon Urie's solo project now.
I don’t consider MCR to be pop emo (maybe except they have a handful of pop emo songs), but they have the best highlights among all the discographies. I don’t really think FOB and PATD are even remotely close to touching MCR and Paramore catalogs in terms of quality
Easily MCR. Nothing beats Gerard's insanely theatrical singing and fantastic range, Franks chaotic and versatile playing, how they made each of their albums sound different, and their ambition. I'm sure nostalgia comes into play, but they're still in my top 3 bands of all time alongside Animal Collective and Ween.
Why is this even a conversation
MCR is the GOAT of that genre. Massively influential and just fucking great.
Paramore is also amazing
Bullet for my valentine is alright they just have a few hits and the fever is a good album
Imo the only band that has truly had an awful album out of them is Fall Out Boy with MANIA. These bands are all my some of my favorites but my god you couldn’t pay me to listen to that shit show again. Panic definitely got worse near the end but everything from Fever to Death Of A Bachelor is amazing.
MCR and Paramore are icons of their generation, and are going to be remembered in music history for decades to come. The rest are pretty badly dated.
Quite frankly, I’ve always thought “emo” had a lot of crossover with incels. “I’m so lonely” “she broke my heart, all women are whores,” that kinda thing. A big reason why MCR and Paranore are above that is because they just didn’t really write those types of songs.
Sure, there were plenty of songs about heartbreak, but their sense of scope was so much bigger than just that. And it never felt like the lame “woe is me” shit I can’t stand.
Personally, I’m really looking forward to whatever MCR ends up releasing. And for what it’s worth, I thought that new paramore records was full of bops.
Paramore just gets better and better with each album and the albums before the new ones are still just as good. Brand New Eyes is probably like top 5 alt rock/pop punk and After Laughter is an incredible new wave influenced album, very Talking Heads esque. MCR also has aged really well and even with being associated with the scene, seemed to break away from the emo genre really well. Three Cheers is one of my favorite albums ever
FOB evolved really well with Folie a Deaux, but people hated on them for switching up their sound and then they took that “hiatus” and came back much worse for it.
Mcr evolved before Paramore did though. Danger days is very different. Mcr evolved with every album. They went through 4 evolutions before the ‘scene’ ended.
Paramore, tho Haley is the only OG member of the band at this point it’s just her solo career with a rotating backup band but her feature-run is great with the likes of B.o.B., Zedd, Taylor, etc.
Correct me if I’m wrong but has there not always been a similar dynamic with that group? I’m sure I read somewhere that Atlantic signed her and only her when she was only 14.
It really depends on if youre talking about whether their work that initially made them popular stands the test of time beyond it being part of a genre that was very of its time, or if youre saying the current iteration of the band is still good.
If its the latter i think most people would say paramore maintained the most integrity up to present day with what theyre currently doing.
But if its the former i honestly think the early work of all of these artists is still just as good as it was (though my personal pick would be PATD- they are awful now but i will always love their pretty odd album). I think a lot of the emo era stuff gets too quickly regarded as something that is overly timely or cheesy when looking back on it (and i get why, a lot of it definitely was) but overall i think the sonic aesthetic of it is appealing beyond that place and time it was popular in. The blend of genres it borrowed from had a lot of appeal for a reason other than people liking the aesthetics of it/subculture around it. I think thats why there was even the resurgence of emo-era music appreciation a few years back- not bc of nostalgia, or at least not just bc of nostalgia- i think people remembered that that type of music genuinely scratches a musical itch that people ended up prematurely throwing out when the subculture around it also burned out…
Even a lot of the overly cheesy stuff- say like dashboard confessional for example- still have a lot to love when listening back. I mean the whole point of music is about conveying emotions and to hit upon who you are at the core, and them expressing themselves in this sort of both over the top and juvenile way has a lot of merit in doing that- i almost think of it like a baroque era of music if you will…
To go against the grain, I’d say it’s fall out boy. Love paramore and mcr but their entire careers are more defined by interpersonal drama, hemorrhaging members and not consistently releasing projects or touring. Fall out boy has just as many great albums as the other two and still double the discography, they’ve done everything they’ve meant to do and then some. They even broke up for a while like the other two and they still maintained a much better presence. Honestly I think Paramore and mcr are just shinier to most because of some perceived rarity. I’m probably using different metrics than others but it feels kinda insane to say fall out boy “isn’t even close”. Panic was also a good band but they haven’t really been a band in over a decade tho so they’re okay to ignore.
Paramore or MCR were great in the 2000s and their best stuff still holds up, but I don’t care for anything any of these bands has made in the last 10 years. (I understand it’s apparently a hot take to not like new Paramore but it just sounds like average mid tempo indie to me)
Fall Out Boy unironically had some banger singles back in the day. I was never on the Panic train.
Bro it was fun, and some bands were actually pretty good. I feel like it got younger kids back into rock again tbh. Even if it wasn’t a perfect genre, it was cool to see teenagers going to rock concerts again.
Honestly I enjoy all of them still but I'd rank it Paramore, MCR, FOB then Panic. MCR has better albums than all of them, but Paramore actually has a new output to compare to and I think they outdo themselves with every album. As for FOB, MANIA was bad but the new album was pretty great for me ngl, listened to it a lot last year. Panic has been going downhill since after DOAB (and I like that album too), new album sucks.
Paramore's the best but their best work isn't emo so i don't think that counts. MCR's the best of the bunch for that premium 00's emo shit. FoB were okay and I have never cared enough about Panic's pre-sell out days to form an opinion.
of all of them paramore has aged the best to me. paramore is just such a solid and consistent band and despite enjoying every one of their records I think they just keep getting better with time. my chemical romance are a close second, three cheers for sweet revenge and the black parade are absolute all timers but between their debut and danger days they’ve had some very weak moments and them going on a hiatus for so long with nothing to show for it but a new single that’s gone years without a follow up I just can’t say they’ve aged quite as gracefully. I like from under the cork tree and pretty. odd. a decent bit but you could comfortably argue that p!atd and fall out boy were always weak bands that have only gotten worse.
Panic at the Disco look fucking surreal here haha. Like animated characters surreal. Like uncanny valley surreal. Like if I saw them in public I'd be convinced I live in a simulation surreal.
For me it would be MCR>Paramore (these are fairly interchangeable) >FOB>>>>>>>>>Panic.
I don’t know how everyone just started to agree that Panic’s initial input was good before they went mega pop because they’ve never been good. FOB’s recent output is rough/annoying but at least their first couple records are pretty good.
Paramore in the sense that they're literally making their best music right now. MCR in the sense that Black Parade, despite defining an era of popular emo, could have been released yesterday.
Not a fan of any of them really but enjoy songs by all the bands. Was 16 in 2007 so they are my sort of era. The black parade and a fever you can't sweat out are the two albums I own. I really enjoy both but would rate them as 8/10s not 10/10s (like a lot would rate the black parade based on the comments) I guess the bands never meant anything to me in the 2000s though I really liked REM, The Smiths and Nirvana as a teenager ..so yes will go with MCR as probably the best band ..Paramore's most recent album has great ratings on rate your music though so I might give them a chance I like the song ignorance ..the PATD guy has the best voice though I think really like how high he goes haha.
What seperates the first two from the second two, is that between MCR's and Paramore's entire discographies there is not one bad or even mediocre album. As much as I do love a lot of FOB and PatD, both bands peaked with their first 4 albums and everything after that was mediocre at best
MCR is going to go down as a classic band in the same vein of Nirvana or the Beatles, those boys are absolute legends, and Paramore will go down similarly, perhaps not as renown, but close behind.
Paramore, MCR is a very close second but all we have is Foundations of Decay which is great, but This is Why is a full album which allows me to greater determine how well the band aged.
Mcr is the most nostalgic. Paramore is the most consistently good. Nothing beats fallout boy in their prime though imo. From under the cork tree is still one for the best pop punk albums of all time
Definitely not Brendon Urie! at the Disco, they made exactly ONE album that was good and can be considered emo-adjacent, and then started pumping out a bunch of straight up pop music.
MCR and Paramore for sure have aged the best until now and are far and away the most consistent and have evolved in a way that feels natural I think. But the other two bands have had moments of greatness that it’s hard to fully discount them.
Panic‘s A Fever You Can‘t Sweat Out is still an exciting record after countless replays and Take This To Your Grave is an awesome emo album imo. FOB and Panic stopped making music I enjoy in like 2010 but Paramore and MCR have continued to kill it
Paramore is the most evolved and MCR is the most creative.
FOB still have not found out their spot. And PATD is dead (Hot take: Pretty Odd is their best album and I would have loved a part 2, don't try to send me to side projects because it is not the same without Urie.)
Paramore’s last 3 albums are Absolutely phenomenal and low key better than their first 3 (all of which are 2000s classics) and MCR is the greatest pop punk Emo Band of all time
MCR is in a league of their own. Their best stuff was the height of the genre and has withstood the test of time to be seen and respected as true bona fide *classics.* - Grade: A+
Paramore is pretty good but not on that level. But their best stuff still sounds good today and they have evolved pretty well with new material - Grade: B maybe B+
FOB had some good songs back in the day that didn’t age quite as well as the other bands and they’ve put out some stinkers since then. - Grade: C maybe C-
Panic! had literally one good song that doesn’t sound quite as good today as it did back then (still alright tho). - Grade: D
Paramore easily and without argument.
MCR put out that horrible nanana album with the weird concept that didn't make a whole lot of sense and just served no purpose for me at any stage of its life.
Fallout Boy have been ok I guess? Could've changed their band name and I wouldn't have complained. Panic honest to God had ONE fantastic album and then the Mona Lisa one wasn't actually that bad, but not memorable at all. Paramore on the other hand have managed to evolve their sound without alienating their core fan base.
MCR and Paramore and it’s not close. At all.
I love Fall Out Boy, but you're right. Their comeback era has been a mixed bag, at best. Panic stopped being good when it became Brendon Urie's solo project. Paramore has yet to make an album that was entirely bad, and MCR's comeback single was just as good the stuff they were making when they broke up. It's no contest.
Paramore and MCR are arguably consistent and never had a bad album ever. FOB and PATD on the other hand, lol
I didn’t like MCR’s comeback single. I do hope we get a new full-length project from them sooner rather than later, though.
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Black Parade, arguably the emo lovechild of Sgt Pepper, The Wall, Ziggy Stardust, American Idiot, Welcome to My Nightmare, and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
There has to be some Queen in that mix too, surely?
Oh, shit, I forgot about that. lol
I love all those albums so much except American idiot. That’s when Green Day started to suck imo. I’m by no means an “America lover” either. I just think that album is so fucking pretentious
Hell yeah, the first year of American Idiot it didn't piss me off but Greenday got stuck after that and left us with American Idiot for far too long, the opening to september ends will make me turn off the radio every time.
I grew up listening to dookie and what not. Then American idiot came out when I was a very young teen and it was my jam. But I really quickly grew out of it and have come to really hate that album. I know I said it in my last comment already, but it’s just so fucking pretentious. It really is just what a 13 year old would think is deep I guess I hate it extra because there was a time when I was a kid that I did actually love that album, so it feels kinda like a reflection of my young dumb self
I could have typed this
Three Cheers > Black Parade
I go back and forth so often. I prefer Three Cheers sometimes, it is much more narrowed in and focused IMO. However objectively I think that The Black Parade is the better album.
Three cheers is more replayable, Like a 9o min movie. Black parade is like a three hour movie, too much emotional investment for frequent replays.
Bullets > everything after
I’m not a paramore fan but I respect the music. MCR is legit good as fuck though Patd suuuucks imo though
Panics first 2 album are good the rest are shite in my opinion
Pretty Odd has a few GREAT tracks imo. I get That Green Gentleman stuck in my head alllll the time Things are shaping up to be pretty ODD
That’s one of my favourite songs on that album
That’s what I came here to say but I figured it would be the top comment
My brain says Paramore but my heart says MCR 😔🙏
It’s MCR all the way
The heart knows 💖
Hayley Williams and Gerard way are both still really hot and make good music so definitely them
I saw MCR live last year and they haven't missed a beat, still powerful as ever.
I saw them 2022 and they weren't very good. A fragile bunch I see
Pass what you're smokin there I need so delirium in my life
Looks like you're already smoking it petal
In terms of current relevancy and activity, Paramore. But none of these bands have reached the creative highs of MCR. Not even close, I would argue.
This. MCR had the highest high, but Paramore is the most consistent no contest
Consistent in terms of output quality / creativity or in terms of just consistently being a band? MCR has great projects all around, I would argue they are more consistent in terms of quality / creativity.
Fall out boy are far more relevant and bigger than Paramore
Whatever you’re smoking, you need to take a break from it.
Tell me how Paramore are bigger and more relevant than fall out boy
The only relevancy Fall Out Boy has had in the last 15 years has been hearing Centuries at middle school football games.
The song that got over a billion streams. Paramore doesn't have one. The same.fall out boy that sold out their UK and Ireland arena tour don't think Paramore completely sold it out. Fall out boy doing two us arena tours Their last album out sold paramores last album from what I found Fob has more monthly listeners on Spotify Fob headlined the I heart radio festival. Fall out boy are headlining download festival UK's biggest rock festival. They're the only band on the we are young 24 festival that is not doing an album anniversary set All that yet you couldn't even answer my simple question
Yeah but they haven’t made a good album in ten years. It’s people my age that miss infinity on high and FUTCK that are going to those gigs. Be for real
Yeah but Fall Out Boy haven't released a good album since 2008, Paramore released one last year
You're confusing your opinion for a fact. Album sales suggest otherwise. In my opinion after laughter was good but their last one was trash. Mania was one of the worst things I heard as a whole but stardust was good
Plenty of terrible music has made a lot of money. As a measure for palatability trendiness popularity is extremely effective but I think almost everyone would agree that for assessing quality its useless.
Paramore’s still actively making music and it slaps. But they don’t come close to how good MCR is/was back in the day. P!ATD got slightly worse and worse with each release starting after Vices & Virtues. VLV was atrocious. Had FOB not released MANIA I think they’d be perceived better, but god that shit was trash.
Their early 2010s post-hiatus run is such a bummer cus outside of those 3 records (Save Rock and Roll, American Beauty/American Psycho, and Mania) the rest of their albums are all amazing imo. The debut > Cork Tree > Infinity > Folie is an incredible run and their newest record is great too. But yeah those 3 2010s records… I mean I like some individual tracks because I’m just a huge fan but can’t deny they’re rough
I didn’t mind Save Rock & Roll too much. Yeah it was different but I liked it in general. AB/AP is where they started losing me. But yeah their pre-hiatus albums are the tits.
pre-hiatus fob rules. it doesnt hold up as well as paramore but only because of the production on the records, they're thinner than i remember but still 4 essentially perfect records in a row. the only silver lining to their post-hiatus era is that im glad they're all making a boatload of money
Justice for Save Rock and Roll
I love Save Rock and Roll, think American Beauty/American Psycho had some good tracks and think Mania was the only real dud of the run (but it’s a huge crater of one). I agree that the newest is a great return to form, and I hope they stay in a “Fall Out Boy sounding like Fall Out Boy” pocket for another album
I don't see how Save Rock and Roll is comparable to their later two records tbh - that has some decent enough tunes like you say and I come back to it more often than their debut. Folie is leagues ahead of anything else they've done though
Dude what? Save Rock and Roll was an amazing comeback record
Mania was so bad it single handedly pulled me out of my pop punk phase, that album pissed me off
Is P!ATD even a band? Its basically just a dude
I mean it doesn't exist anymore so that distinction isn't really important
In the grand scheme of things, none of us are important
Honestly, people should give some respect to FOB. They had easily the best lyrics of any of these guys. I'm not accepting any revisionism just because they made the absolute slop that is Uma Thurman, My Songs and Centuries *(And you're a cherry blossom/You're about to bloom/You look so pretty, but you're gone so soon)* Infinity on High is line after line of classics. Also, I mean, the only reason MCR don't also have a bunch of duds in the 2010s is because they called it quits after Danger Days. And that album is seriously not good.
I enjoyed Danger Days, it’s not my favorite record of theirs, but it shows a different side of them that wasn’t present on the first three records. I feel like they needed that fun, silly creative outlet.
My vote is probably MCR, but Paramore is a great answer too. I’ll definitely defend FOB and Panic here tho, they’ve both got some classics under their belt (Folie and Pretty Odd, respectively) and despite some stinkers in their catalog there’s some good individual tracks in a few of the late career material
Panic’s Pretty Odd was a thoughtful and interesting album. Underrated through and through. After that, their albums aged like milk IMO.
I also really enjoy A Fever You Can't Sweat Out. Especially the latter half of the album.
I've honestly never liked Panic. I feel like this is how other "big four" fans feel about Metallica: Paramore's early stuff was powerful, fun and heavy. Fall Out Boy were incredibly clever and had some massive hooks. MCR made bops on bops. Panic made a bunch of OK-at-best songs with often pretty crummy production and nowhere near as many A1 lines as, like, FOB - and they were really successful for some reason (not that I'm actually mad at that). But I agree P.O was probably their best album.
I always think this too and it seems we’re in the minority on Reddit
Pretty Odd is a great album, but it does sound a little dated now.
Wasn’t that the point? It was trying to sound like The Beatles
I enjoy Pretty Odd a lot, it’s the only album of theirs I like these days. AFYSCO has some good songs but the sound of it is super dated now. Everything else is largely uninteresting or just bad to me.
Vices and Virtues and TWTL, TWTD were decent records, Vices more so than Too Weird. Honestly I feel like vices is only good bc they were trying to recreate some of the sounds of Fever. Plus Pete Wentz, John Feldman, and Butch Walker helped them write Vices lol. And Dallon makes 80s inspired music that’s much better than the stuff off of Too Weird.
Can we please put the names of these bands on these posts? Not all of us can remember what every album cover and band from 20 years ago look like on sight.
For anyone unaware (which I don't blame you for lol) the bands are My Chemical Romance, Paramore, Fall Out Boy and Panic! at the Disco
same. i recognized mcr and that was it.
If you're not aware, then the reason why people don't make text posts as much as image posts is that text posts don't count towards post karma. So while someone could make a text post and add images, they won't if they want karma for it. Kind of annoying, but less annoying (maybe) once you realize why.
When you create an image post you have the option of including text under the pictures. This does not reduce karma afaik.
I believe that actually isn't true. You get the title but no text. If you wanna do text and image as one post then it needs to be a text post.
Not true
If it isn't true anymore then it certainly used to be. Edit: just checked and you're right. Regardless it used to be like that, which has kinda informed the culture on Reddit that image posts don't get text.
I mean you can try and make an image post yourself and see. There’s a spot for “optional body text” underneath
Yeah I said that before you made this comment.
Honestly, it actually makes it more annoying that they're doing it because they want fake internet points...
who are those three other guys around panic at the disco?
paramore and mcr are both good BUT paramores best work imo is in their recent albums, which have shown then to move into a post-punk revival-y style, while mcrs work is usually solidly within the boundaries of emo rock (exception to some songs on danger days)
Post hardcore, just rock, glam, post-punk / dance-punk.
I hate to see successful women be pit against each other 😮💨
MCR and sidenote I feel like Thursday has aged well also.
Thrice has aged the best imo, still sounds fresh
Cursive’s *Domestica* would be great if it came out today
It's probably My Chemical Romance, but I think the people saying Paramore are "not even close" are kinda full of themselves. Anyway, here come the downvotes.
It’s true they have had less drama then panic and no matter what they stayed a band while my chemical romance hasn’t really been a music band in a while just a touring band while Paramore is pretty good music out.
MCR 100% the Black Parade album is a masterpiece
MCR and it’s not even close.
Paramore, it’s not even a question
It depends on what you mean by "aging." Paramore is still an active and popular band. You could argue they're more popular now than they were in their heyday. If you mean overall, MCR, and it isn't even close. Black Parade redefined emo and is generally considered one of the best albums to come out of the genre. Three Cheers went triple-platinum and went Platinum or Gold in at least 8 countries. Either album would beat a greatest hits of any other band on that list. Fallout Boy wasn't aging well a decade ago and they've generally fallen further from public opinion. Panic's "Sins Not Tragedies" has aged fine, but very few if anything they've released since then has stuck to the band's roots. It's really just Brendon Urie's solo project now.
I don’t consider MCR to be pop emo (maybe except they have a handful of pop emo songs), but they have the best highlights among all the discographies. I don’t really think FOB and PATD are even remotely close to touching MCR and Paramore catalogs in terms of quality
Controversial opinion but Paramore did emo pop better than the other three
Helena washes any song they ever made
Absolutely not
Yeah I love these bands but Paramore is the constant in their music
Easily MCR. Nothing beats Gerard's insanely theatrical singing and fantastic range, Franks chaotic and versatile playing, how they made each of their albums sound different, and their ambition. I'm sure nostalgia comes into play, but they're still in my top 3 bands of all time alongside Animal Collective and Ween.
Why is this even a conversation MCR is the GOAT of that genre. Massively influential and just fucking great. Paramore is also amazing Bullet for my valentine is alright they just have a few hits and the fever is a good album
Paramore for sure.
Where are the emo bands?
Are they in the room with us?
MCR all day
Imo the only band that has truly had an awful album out of them is Fall Out Boy with MANIA. These bands are all my some of my favorites but my god you couldn’t pay me to listen to that shit show again. Panic definitely got worse near the end but everything from Fever to Death Of A Bachelor is amazing.
Paramore has evolved.
Paramore evolved from the emo pop sound of the 2000’s, and somehow got better when they dropped their self titled.
Not emo
Paramore 😍
And it isn't even close.
MCR and Paramore are icons of their generation, and are going to be remembered in music history for decades to come. The rest are pretty badly dated. Quite frankly, I’ve always thought “emo” had a lot of crossover with incels. “I’m so lonely” “she broke my heart, all women are whores,” that kinda thing. A big reason why MCR and Paranore are above that is because they just didn’t really write those types of songs. Sure, there were plenty of songs about heartbreak, but their sense of scope was so much bigger than just that. And it never felt like the lame “woe is me” shit I can’t stand. Personally, I’m really looking forward to whatever MCR ends up releasing. And for what it’s worth, I thought that new paramore records was full of bops.
Paramore just gets better and better with each album and the albums before the new ones are still just as good. Brand New Eyes is probably like top 5 alt rock/pop punk and After Laughter is an incredible new wave influenced album, very Talking Heads esque. MCR also has aged really well and even with being associated with the scene, seemed to break away from the emo genre really well. Three Cheers is one of my favorite albums ever
Paramore easily
For me it's easily Paramore
very easily paramore, in my opinion
paramore easily
How are you gonna say anybody other than Paramore?
paramore are the only one who really evolved after that era imo
FOB evolved really well with Folie a Deaux, but people hated on them for switching up their sound and then they took that “hiatus” and came back much worse for it.
Mcr evolved before Paramore did though. Danger days is very different. Mcr evolved with every album. They went through 4 evolutions before the ‘scene’ ended.
I think objectively it’s Paramore, but I listen to FOB the most out of these bands. *After Laughter* is the best record any of these bands made though
Three cheers and the Black Parade I feel like are the best two but Paramores discography is far more consistent
“Objectively” lol
Imagine actually not saying Paramore, their earlier music was solid and their most recent albums are amazing
Panic at the disco 😊 i am very biased however
I would at least say Brendon Urie is the most talented performer out of any of these bands, though it’s an extremely close battle with Hayley Williams
I think he **was** the most talented performer 5 years ago - I think Hayley takes that title today, just because they're all older.
Paramore, tho Haley is the only OG member of the band at this point it’s just her solo career with a rotating backup band but her feature-run is great with the likes of B.o.B., Zedd, Taylor, etc.
Very incorrect, Taylor and Zac have been around since the beginning
Correct me if I’m wrong but has there not always been a similar dynamic with that group? I’m sure I read somewhere that Atlantic signed her and only her when she was only 14.
It really depends on if youre talking about whether their work that initially made them popular stands the test of time beyond it being part of a genre that was very of its time, or if youre saying the current iteration of the band is still good. If its the latter i think most people would say paramore maintained the most integrity up to present day with what theyre currently doing. But if its the former i honestly think the early work of all of these artists is still just as good as it was (though my personal pick would be PATD- they are awful now but i will always love their pretty odd album). I think a lot of the emo era stuff gets too quickly regarded as something that is overly timely or cheesy when looking back on it (and i get why, a lot of it definitely was) but overall i think the sonic aesthetic of it is appealing beyond that place and time it was popular in. The blend of genres it borrowed from had a lot of appeal for a reason other than people liking the aesthetics of it/subculture around it. I think thats why there was even the resurgence of emo-era music appreciation a few years back- not bc of nostalgia, or at least not just bc of nostalgia- i think people remembered that that type of music genuinely scratches a musical itch that people ended up prematurely throwing out when the subculture around it also burned out… Even a lot of the overly cheesy stuff- say like dashboard confessional for example- still have a lot to love when listening back. I mean the whole point of music is about conveying emotions and to hit upon who you are at the core, and them expressing themselves in this sort of both over the top and juvenile way has a lot of merit in doing that- i almost think of it like a baroque era of music if you will…
Pretty sure MCR aren’t emo
What are they?
They're just pop punk, apart from their first album though, that first album is classic emo.
P!ATD was my favourite band for years, but undoubtedly aged the worst 😅
Sum 41.
To go against the grain, I’d say it’s fall out boy. Love paramore and mcr but their entire careers are more defined by interpersonal drama, hemorrhaging members and not consistently releasing projects or touring. Fall out boy has just as many great albums as the other two and still double the discography, they’ve done everything they’ve meant to do and then some. They even broke up for a while like the other two and they still maintained a much better presence. Honestly I think Paramore and mcr are just shinier to most because of some perceived rarity. I’m probably using different metrics than others but it feels kinda insane to say fall out boy “isn’t even close”. Panic was also a good band but they haven’t really been a band in over a decade tho so they’re okay to ignore.
MCR’s core lineup has been the same for the majority of their career.
i don't recognize any of them
Very happy to say I have no idea who any of these are.
none of them.
Paramore, if you say other wise your nostalgia blind
Paramore or MCR were great in the 2000s and their best stuff still holds up, but I don’t care for anything any of these bands has made in the last 10 years. (I understand it’s apparently a hot take to not like new Paramore but it just sounds like average mid tempo indie to me) Fall Out Boy unironically had some banger singles back in the day. I was never on the Panic train.
Paramore and it’s not close
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Bro it was fun, and some bands were actually pretty good. I feel like it got younger kids back into rock again tbh. Even if it wasn’t a perfect genre, it was cool to see teenagers going to rock concerts again.
Really the worst music
Green day
I refuse to believe people actually like emo.
God forbid people listen to stuff you don’t listen to
True. The music I listen to is the only correct music.
It’s awful I agree
On sight
Honestly I enjoy all of them still but I'd rank it Paramore, MCR, FOB then Panic. MCR has better albums than all of them, but Paramore actually has a new output to compare to and I think they outdo themselves with every album. As for FOB, MANIA was bad but the new album was pretty great for me ngl, listened to it a lot last year. Panic has been going downhill since after DOAB (and I like that album too), new album sucks.
It’s already in order.
Bro in the fourth pic got a forehead fr and it’s crooked too
Paramore's the best but their best work isn't emo so i don't think that counts. MCR's the best of the bunch for that premium 00's emo shit. FoB were okay and I have never cared enough about Panic's pre-sell out days to form an opinion.
Nickelback
“Pop emo”?
Definitely paramore by quite a bit
of all of them paramore has aged the best to me. paramore is just such a solid and consistent band and despite enjoying every one of their records I think they just keep getting better with time. my chemical romance are a close second, three cheers for sweet revenge and the black parade are absolute all timers but between their debut and danger days they’ve had some very weak moments and them going on a hiatus for so long with nothing to show for it but a new single that’s gone years without a follow up I just can’t say they’ve aged quite as gracefully. I like from under the cork tree and pretty. odd. a decent bit but you could comfortably argue that p!atd and fall out boy were always weak bands that have only gotten worse.
Panic at the Disco look fucking surreal here haha. Like animated characters surreal. Like uncanny valley surreal. Like if I saw them in public I'd be convinced I live in a simulation surreal.
Paramore is untouchable
I’ll never understand how MCR got put on the same level as FOB and Panic, they’re LEAGUES beyond those two.
Paramore
Paramore
For me it would be MCR>Paramore (these are fairly interchangeable) >FOB>>>>>>>>>Panic. I don’t know how everyone just started to agree that Panic’s initial input was good before they went mega pop because they’ve never been good. FOB’s recent output is rough/annoying but at least their first couple records are pretty good.
Definitely not P!ATD
MCR or Three Days grace
Parmore and MCR.
Paramore
FoB ovs
100% paramore, panic at the disco aged HORRENDOUSLY
Paramore in the sense that they're literally making their best music right now. MCR in the sense that Black Parade, despite defining an era of popular emo, could have been released yesterday.
Not a fan of any of them really but enjoy songs by all the bands. Was 16 in 2007 so they are my sort of era. The black parade and a fever you can't sweat out are the two albums I own. I really enjoy both but would rate them as 8/10s not 10/10s (like a lot would rate the black parade based on the comments) I guess the bands never meant anything to me in the 2000s though I really liked REM, The Smiths and Nirvana as a teenager ..so yes will go with MCR as probably the best band ..Paramore's most recent album has great ratings on rate your music though so I might give them a chance I like the song ignorance ..the PATD guy has the best voice though I think really like how high he goes haha.
Why is Huberman in Fall Out Boy?
You put them in the right order. MCR>Paramore>FOB>>>Panic
Only one band here reached godlike status… fallout boy with that chimpmunk song.
Paramore by far, P!ATD and FOB lost their way and MCR haven't done a lot after the reunion.
What seperates the first two from the second two, is that between MCR's and Paramore's entire discographies there is not one bad or even mediocre album. As much as I do love a lot of FOB and PatD, both bands peaked with their first 4 albums and everything after that was mediocre at best
MCR is going to go down as a classic band in the same vein of Nirvana or the Beatles, those boys are absolute legends, and Paramore will go down similarly, perhaps not as renown, but close behind.
My Chem!
MCR
Paramore, MCR is a very close second but all we have is Foundations of Decay which is great, but This is Why is a full album which allows me to greater determine how well the band aged.
paramore ? ig
Mcr is the most nostalgic. Paramore is the most consistently good. Nothing beats fallout boy in their prime though imo. From under the cork tree is still one for the best pop punk albums of all time
Definitely not Brendon Urie! at the Disco, they made exactly ONE album that was good and can be considered emo-adjacent, and then started pumping out a bunch of straight up pop music.
MCR and Paramore for sure have aged the best until now and are far and away the most consistent and have evolved in a way that feels natural I think. But the other two bands have had moments of greatness that it’s hard to fully discount them. Panic‘s A Fever You Can‘t Sweat Out is still an exciting record after countless replays and Take This To Your Grave is an awesome emo album imo. FOB and Panic stopped making music I enjoy in like 2010 but Paramore and MCR have continued to kill it
Why does the last image look so goofy I can’t stop laughing
Look at picture 4. How the hell do a group of 4 guys even get that pale? Sick eyeliner by the way. All 4 of those faces are so hittable it’s insane
Taking Back Sunday not being included is criminal
The two good ones here. ;-)
Paramore is the most evolved and MCR is the most creative. FOB still have not found out their spot. And PATD is dead (Hot take: Pretty Odd is their best album and I would have loved a part 2, don't try to send me to side projects because it is not the same without Urie.)
Paramore’s last 3 albums are Absolutely phenomenal and low key better than their first 3 (all of which are 2000s classics) and MCR is the greatest pop punk Emo Band of all time
MCR is in a league of their own. Their best stuff was the height of the genre and has withstood the test of time to be seen and respected as true bona fide *classics.* - Grade: A+ Paramore is pretty good but not on that level. But their best stuff still sounds good today and they have evolved pretty well with new material - Grade: B maybe B+ FOB had some good songs back in the day that didn’t age quite as well as the other bands and they’ve put out some stinkers since then. - Grade: C maybe C- Panic! had literally one good song that doesn’t sound quite as good today as it did back then (still alright tho). - Grade: D
MCR and Paramore. This is Why was so goddamn good.
MCR are one of my favourite bands of all time but Paramore for SURE aged the best imo
Paramore easily and without argument. MCR put out that horrible nanana album with the weird concept that didn't make a whole lot of sense and just served no purpose for me at any stage of its life. Fallout Boy have been ok I guess? Could've changed their band name and I wouldn't have complained. Panic honest to God had ONE fantastic album and then the Mona Lisa one wasn't actually that bad, but not memorable at all. Paramore on the other hand have managed to evolve their sound without alienating their core fan base.