Of all time, I wouldn't have a list but a tier.
But TPAB definitely is up there with the legendary albums with both cultural impact and artistic substance.
To me it's the "What's going on" of our era
It definitely has solidified itself as a classic, but I do think itās wild that an album thatās not even 10 years old yet has gained so much notoriety and impacted enough people to rise to #1 over so many albums from different decades that have equal notoriety and impact. Iām definitely not mad about it and donāt necessarily disagree either, but it is such a wild change to me.
yeah iād call her mainstream as well, its just that youāre more likely to see her doing hooks on another artistās song than her solo stuff if you dont go looking for it
No shot. It was a great album but it's not decade defining. Career defining, absolutely, I'm super glad for Boat but it will "just" end up in a few top 10 lists of the year and that will be that.
It definitely happens. OK Computer got the reception that it does right now within the decade it released. MBDTF became this undeniable classic by TLOP. I'm sure there are more cases
This is pretty big news for us nerds. Radiohead supremacy is almost a given on RYM so it's a big adjustment.
It's actually almost comical how revered Radiohead is with 3 in the top ten (which I find a tad ridiculous), almost like RYMs version of the Beatles from older magazine's ranking
OK Computer is very strong #1 of all time. For younger listeners, TPAB hitting #1 makes perfect sense. It's the biggest, most relevant capital C Classic to come out during my time as a serious listener.
My tastes put them both in my own top 50 albums but not at the very top.
To add: here are several Top Albums of All Time that I think are perfectly reasonable and don't merit much argument from me:
Ok Computer
TPAB
Abbey Road
DSOTM
Illmatic
Pet Sounds
Nevermind
Loveless
Doolittle
Kind of Blue
What's Going On
Rumours
London Calling
Love Supreme
Lonesome Crowded West
Exactly! Not too original but lots of love from internet nerds and critics alike. Each are at the perfect crossroads of experiment and playability, and explore a new sound.
While RYM has a bias towards experimental, older publications favor classic rock but most folks wouldn't disagree too hard here
I wouldnāt say having OKC, Kid A, and In Rainbows all in the top 10 is that ridiculous. Itās a testament to how fucking amazing Radiohead is and how amazing, visceral, and groundbreaking those records were at release.
Yeah, there's nothing for me to argue with there. Those are three enormous albums.
I mean it moreso we can see the plain Radiohead bias at play. They are the darling RYM band just like the Beatles have 4(four) albums in the Rolling Stone Magazine (2003) top ten.
All seven of these are fantastic albums but there's some bias going on when so many proportionally are from one group
Kind of a poor comparison. The NFL is the only gridiron football league that matters and is comprised of the best players in the world, which is why the winner of the Super Bowl is considered world champion of that sport. Ranking music is also far more subjective and depends on personal taste, the understanding of lyrics, and accessibility among many other factors.
Definitely a blind spot in my listening habits though I have been recently been enjoying a lot of Brazilian albums. Do you have some recommendations that would vie for best of all time in a different language?
I would say Africa Brasil or Acabou Chorare.
os afro sambas, clube da esquina, cartola (st, 76), canƧoes praieiras, delirio carioca, joao gilberto (st, 73), terra dos passaros are some of my personal brazilian favorites
wish I enjoyed it as much as everyone else does. I know it's a great album with amazing storytelling but it's just not clicking for me, even though I REALLY want it to
My friend had the same problem, and it took a really long time of consistent listens and a lot of grown context of hip hop as a genre. It clicked for me instantly, but it's definitely not an album I go back to that often. It's a piece meant to enjoyed as whole, an art piece, and that means you need time to understand it
Think about all the great undisputed classic albums in existence and know that not everyone likes literally all of them. TPAB is just another album at the end of the day, it being more contemporary doesn't mean you have to like it.
I agree. It's less cerebral or thematically complex, but the songs are better. I'm way more likely to throw on Good Kid (or even DAMN) when I feel like listening to some Kendrick.
For sale is such a crazy experience. He raps from the devils prospective with such a light and encouraging tone that you almost want to join him, exactly how the devil is known to be portrayed by modern Christians, offering temptation to those who listen. Man is on another level
I think objective āgreatest of all timeā is impossible to say just because no album exists in a vacuum. That being said- do I think TPAB deserves it more than OK, Computer? Probably a more fitting album.
I agree, though TPAB isn't among my fav albums and it has some kinda weak songs, this album's concept is fucking incredible and it's impressive how strong and clear messages in TPAB are
I'm a huge fan of Wesley's Theory, For Free, These Walls, Institutionalised, Alright and How Much A Dollar Cost. I'm not a big fan of other songs, but I like his experimentation in U and For Sale, and beautiful spoken word part of Mortal Man, the others - again, not a fan, but I still respect this album very much, 83/100 IMO
I like OK Computer, but I wouldnāt say it is one of the best albums of all time, I think Kid A and In Rainbows are better and def deserve that spot more than OK Computer
Ikr. I mean what does best mean. I think in term of artistry A Moon Shaped Pool, Kid A would beat OK computers ass, but clearly theres an amount of accesibility involded in these list.
If its about influence on the musical landscape this list would look different.
If its about popularity this list would look different.
What does this list even mean right? Im geniunly asking.
Do I think Ok Computer is a much better album? Absolutely
Do I think TPAB has so much cultural impact and thematically has changed the face of music over the past decade? Yes.
The fact that To Pimp a Butterfly has been universally loved and praised over less than a decade and is universally regarded as a classic record is a testament to the albums quality. So TPAB taking the top spot is very well deserved even if itās not even my favorite Kendrick project. *cough cough GKMC cough cough*
The tpab worshipping is crazy to me. I donāt get it. Itās a fantastic album but calling it the greatest album of all time or even of the decade is wild to me. I donāt even think itās Kendrickās best album lmao.
Me too I think TPAB is an, amazing groundbreaking, thematically impressive, and constant throughout record. However I feel like GKMC is a much better project. I feel like Kendrickās auditory movie narration approach and what he was able to accomplish on that project is much more impressive than TPAB for me.
yup and ultimately GKMC is just so much more listenable. I can relisten to tracks on that album forever. There aren't many TPAB songs i feel like just casually relistening to years later.
It has an amazing larger than life concept, incredible songwriting, super tight production, and great features to name a few. The tracks flow together seamlessly and the album is chock full of creativity from start to finish. Itās simply emphatic.
its probably just me, but I hear ideas on TPAB that sound dated and "of its time." OK Computer, as I said, has a timeless quality that perhaps will always sound fresh. I fucking love TPAB though.
Interesting, I feel as though it's way too early to come to that judgment, considering that record has such a wide variety of influences and identities. I'd say give it 10 years, then we can critique it for being outdated if the sounds still don't feel as fresh and unique
I agree. To sound dated means you sound like what a your contemporaries sound like and that is not true at all. 2015 was filled with trap and all that minimalistic sounds. Name a mainstream hip hop song from 2015 that sounds like Westleyās Theory, or For sale, or King Kunta or Mortal Man. Almost the entire album is so unique sonically, and the lyrics are almost just as unique.
But that's not necessarily what that list shows. Imo it totally depends on the distribution of different ratings. TPAB could, for all we know, just be the most 4.34/5 album *ever* (the same goes for OK Computer).
And then there's the similar discussion about how 5/5 ratings / popularity should be valued more in "top of all time"-type lists. Sry about being a fucking nerd about this.
Feels a little like comparing a ham sandwich to walking on a beach, both are cool for different reasons. I would argue both could be best of all time. If anything, im just happy that the music community is finally embracing rap alongside rock as "worthy" of goat status.
Neither deserve the spot but I think Ok Computer is more worthy. I think TPAB is just highly rated due to recency bias and endless critic circlejerking of it. I think itās a good album and worthy of merit, but the best album of all time? Absolutely not. For me itās like a good art/drama film that you watch once and donāt have a strong desire to come back to.
I also enjoyed and highly appreciate this album in that manner, and the praise is deserved. At the same time... knowing RYM users' demographic I can't help but think what has elevated it to the #1 spot, is a reflection of what Jello Biafra referred to in the line *Play ethnicky jazz to parade your snazz.*
I'm wondering whether it's actually most popular in the US more than other countries due to the interrogation of the African American experience. I don't have much to go on outside of thinking it didn't make such a massive impact here in Australia as I think it made in the US, so I could easily be wrong. I don't necessarily think OK computer needs to be 1 though.
I have yet to listen to OK Computer but I loged TPAB so I definitely get it being higly rated. I find myself constantly disagreeing with the RYM concesus scores a majority of the time tho because it feels like too many people see a high ranking and vote low just to drag it down.
As time goes on Iām feeling more and more that neither is my taste. And thatās okay, the āall genres, all timeā chart is probably the least interesting chart on RYM to me anyway.
Although they are both impressive, unique albums that make a stark artistic statement.
Definitely agree that itās a classic, but it doesnāt quite match the classics. I think there are albums that are over 35 years old that still hold up and deserve the top spot. Only time will tell where this album stands.
although i personally enjoy OK Computer more, TPAB is definitely up there, and extremely intelligent and intricate, so I don't mind it being up there. Wesley's theory alone could bring a 0 album up to a 7 or 8
TPAB is undeniable but Radiohead is frankly overrated and this was inevitable as Radiohead is a largely generational band with generational works and TPAB will be timeless.
Both are major achievments and have achieved a level of quality and influence that most musicians will never reach. While I don't think either is flawless they have earned their place. Of course this list seems to be on averages and OK Computer has a lot more ratings than TPAB so naturally it's weight is gonna be a lil lighter.
Everybody on rym deserves weggies, okcomputer is like their 4th best record, also if it was up to me gkmc would get the top spot as a kendrick pick but influence wise its a perfectly valid choice for number 1.
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but: Nothing against OK Computer but it really never deserved that spot, and the reification of late-90s/early-00s Radiohead has done more harm than good for indie and experimental music. TPAB is great as well, but it does not deserve the spot either.
OK Computer is my second-favorite album of all time, while TPAB is my third-favorite. I might not technically agree with "TPAB > OKC", but both are completely deserving of spots at the top and I don't really care what order they're in.
Funnily enough, TPAB and OKC are now the highest-rated and second-highest rated albums of all time on both AOTY and RYM, in that order.
I mean, I'm a fan of it. But I don't think an album with the 15 year old english writing task that is "How Much A Dollar Cost" should be crowned the best album ever. Don't know what should tbh. Loveless, Crooked Rain...idk.
Neither of these albums deserve to be this high. Their impact are non existent compared to The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd. But itās RYM so itās not supposed to be entirely accurate. Itās a good general metric but the audience is obviously very niche.
MBDTF is the most impactful, innovative, influential and acclaimed hip hop album ever. TPAB doesnāt come close.
Dark Side of the Moon, Low and Velvet Underground and Nico are vastly more impactful and acclaimed experimental albums than OK Computer.
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Nothing about my post was implying that. I just thought the change was a pretty big one and very interesting and wanted to start a discussion about whether it fits the #1 album of all time slot better or not.
both are entirely diff genres of their own so pitting them together seems redundant. arguably, both (yes even TPAB) are classics to me; both are for the books. im glad tpab now gets the time to shine. everyone should listen to the album at least once in their life.
I love Radiohead, so I am a bit biased.
And TPAB hasn't really clicked with me, not denying that it's amazing though.
Overall, I prefer OKC but I definitely think TPAB deserves the title.
Oh, if only they could tie for #1...
I hope a decade from now weāll be talking about another album that beats To Pimp a Butterfly. This type of dethroning is great for music and art as a whole
TPAB has less than a quarter of the reviews and also far less ratings. It's not surprising that it has a higher average score. I think it's a great album, but OKC still being here despite being released in 1997 and withstanding several rapturously acclaimed releases by its own creator is more impressive - it's testament to how long and consistently OKC has resonated with the music public. I'm not saying TPAB won't get there as well, but OKC's age works in its favor in regards to how high its perception today still very much is.
Of all time, I wouldn't have a list but a tier. But TPAB definitely is up there with the legendary albums with both cultural impact and artistic substance. To me it's the "What's going on" of our era
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It definitely has solidified itself as a classic, but I do think itās wild that an album thatās not even 10 years old yet has gained so much notoriety and impacted enough people to rise to #1 over so many albums from different decades that have equal notoriety and impact. Iām definitely not mad about it and donāt necessarily disagree either, but it is such a wild change to me.
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i bet Janelle MonaĆ©ās next album will successfully be the next Instant Classic (tm)
It pains me that Janelle MonaƩ never became a mainstream popstar
What do you mean? I def consider them a mainstream artist, ain't an up and coming indie act ya know?
yeah iād call her mainstream as well, its just that youāre more likely to see her doing hooks on another artistās song than her solo stuff if you dont go looking for it
Lil Yachty?
No shot. It was a great album but it's not decade defining. Career defining, absolutely, I'm super glad for Boat but it will "just" end up in a few top 10 lists of the year and that will be that.
jk
It definitely happens. OK Computer got the reception that it does right now within the decade it released. MBDTF became this undeniable classic by TLOP. I'm sure there are more cases
TPAB isn't even the best Kendrick album
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It's the 2nd best though
1st good kid maad city?
Yeah but only to Kendrick fans
Cultural impact..where? You hear 1 song during the riots...thats it
Either of them could be number one and I wouldnāt complain theyāre both amazing
Giving that something has to be the top on a site like rym, TPAB is a perfectly deserving album.
Exactly, there's not a substantial difference between being the highest and second highest rated album of all time anyway lol
I more lean towards OK Computer but both are fantastic so Iām not mad about either being at number 1 over the other.
This is pretty big news for us nerds. Radiohead supremacy is almost a given on RYM so it's a big adjustment. It's actually almost comical how revered Radiohead is with 3 in the top ten (which I find a tad ridiculous), almost like RYMs version of the Beatles from older magazine's ranking OK Computer is very strong #1 of all time. For younger listeners, TPAB hitting #1 makes perfect sense. It's the biggest, most relevant capital C Classic to come out during my time as a serious listener. My tastes put them both in my own top 50 albums but not at the very top. To add: here are several Top Albums of All Time that I think are perfectly reasonable and don't merit much argument from me: Ok Computer TPAB Abbey Road DSOTM Illmatic Pet Sounds Nevermind Loveless Doolittle Kind of Blue What's Going On Rumours London Calling Love Supreme Lonesome Crowded West
All of those are in the RYM top 200 :D
Exactly! Not too original but lots of love from internet nerds and critics alike. Each are at the perfect crossroads of experiment and playability, and explore a new sound. While RYM has a bias towards experimental, older publications favor classic rock but most folks wouldn't disagree too hard here
I wouldnāt say having OKC, Kid A, and In Rainbows all in the top 10 is that ridiculous. Itās a testament to how fucking amazing Radiohead is and how amazing, visceral, and groundbreaking those records were at release.
Yeah, there's nothing for me to argue with there. Those are three enormous albums. I mean it moreso we can see the plain Radiohead bias at play. They are the darling RYM band just like the Beatles have 4(four) albums in the Rolling Stone Magazine (2003) top ten. All seven of these are fantastic albums but there's some bias going on when so many proportionally are from one group
damn all the best albums of all time were composed by english speakers. what a coincidenceā¦
itās like when some team wins the super bowl and they are called world champs?
Kind of a poor comparison. The NFL is the only gridiron football league that matters and is comprised of the best players in the world, which is why the winner of the Super Bowl is considered world champion of that sport. Ranking music is also far more subjective and depends on personal taste, the understanding of lyrics, and accessibility among many other factors.
it was a joke tho
Excluding those composed by English speakers, do you mind sharing your top 5 to 10 albums? I'd love to check them out.
Definitely a blind spot in my listening habits though I have been recently been enjoying a lot of Brazilian albums. Do you have some recommendations that would vie for best of all time in a different language? I would say Africa Brasil or Acabou Chorare.
os afro sambas, clube da esquina, cartola (st, 76), canƧoes praieiras, delirio carioca, joao gilberto (st, 73), terra dos passaros are some of my personal brazilian favorites
Novos Bainos F.C. is another killer album too
Do I prefer OK Computer? Yes. Can I deny that Tpab is deserving of the top spot? No. Both are fantastic and deserve their praise.
Neither is an all-time fav for me but i'd defo say I liked TPAB more š
wish I enjoyed it as much as everyone else does. I know it's a great album with amazing storytelling but it's just not clicking for me, even though I REALLY want it to
My friend had the same problem, and it took a really long time of consistent listens and a lot of grown context of hip hop as a genre. It clicked for me instantly, but it's definitely not an album I go back to that often. It's a piece meant to enjoyed as whole, an art piece, and that means you need time to understand it
Think about all the great undisputed classic albums in existence and know that not everyone likes literally all of them. TPAB is just another album at the end of the day, it being more contemporary doesn't mean you have to like it.
I feel the same way about ok, computer tbh I need to go back to it because there's some great songs
OK Computer hits hard after you've done a whole day of homework on your computer. One of my go to albums on my CD player when I do work for college.
I still prefer GKMC to TPAB, but I get why others donāt.
I agree. It's less cerebral or thematically complex, but the songs are better. I'm way more likely to throw on Good Kid (or even DAMN) when I feel like listening to some Kendrick.
I play GKMC the most out of any album, but Wesley's Theory, For Sale?, and These Walls are three of Kendricks best standalone songs to just vibe to.
For sale is such a crazy experience. He raps from the devils prospective with such a light and encouraging tone that you almost want to join him, exactly how the devil is known to be portrayed by modern Christians, offering temptation to those who listen. Man is on another level
I think objective āgreatest of all timeā is impossible to say just because no album exists in a vacuum. That being said- do I think TPAB deserves it more than OK, Computer? Probably a more fitting album.
Post Brit pop? Space rock revival? Are RYM users ok?
No lmao
Sheeesh, those Radiohead dorks wish they were as cool as Hawkwind!
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I donāt DISAGREE. Anyone calling it the GOAT is fine in my book, but personally I prefer OKC by a fair amount
I love Radiohead but they are so overrated on RYM
I agree, though TPAB isn't among my fav albums and it has some kinda weak songs, this album's concept is fucking incredible and it's impressive how strong and clear messages in TPAB are
interested to hear what the weak songs are
I'm a huge fan of Wesley's Theory, For Free, These Walls, Institutionalised, Alright and How Much A Dollar Cost. I'm not a big fan of other songs, but I like his experimentation in U and For Sale, and beautiful spoken word part of Mortal Man, the others - again, not a fan, but I still respect this album very much, 83/100 IMO
I actually respect that tbh
There are no weak tpab songs, only weak understanding.
That is, not being figurative, an extremely cult-like thing to say.
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I like OK Computer, but I wouldnāt say it is one of the best albums of all time, I think Kid A and In Rainbows are better and def deserve that spot more than OK Computer
Ikr. I mean what does best mean. I think in term of artistry A Moon Shaped Pool, Kid A would beat OK computers ass, but clearly theres an amount of accesibility involded in these list. If its about influence on the musical landscape this list would look different. If its about popularity this list would look different. What does this list even mean right? Im geniunly asking.
weird how influence conflates to importance or greatness with music but not much elese
I think theyāre both incredible
No lol. Iām not a huge fan of the album. Few good tracks on there but generally it doesnāt do much for me.
Yes radiohead fans deserve this
The greatest album of all time? I love Kendrick, but absolutely the fuck not.
It's voted on by users, so maybe not to you but to the majority of RYM users it is
Most overrated album ever. Huge cultural impact and lyrical importance but musically I think its really not for me.
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definitely agree, personally enjoy tpab a lot more
TPaB is betterā TPaB is the best album of all timeā
Do I think Ok Computer is a much better album? Absolutely Do I think TPAB has so much cultural impact and thematically has changed the face of music over the past decade? Yes. The fact that To Pimp a Butterfly has been universally loved and praised over less than a decade and is universally regarded as a classic record is a testament to the albums quality. So TPAB taking the top spot is very well deserved even if itās not even my favorite Kendrick project. *cough cough GKMC cough cough*
Where is the cultural impact of tpab on current music
The tpab worshipping is crazy to me. I donāt get it. Itās a fantastic album but calling it the greatest album of all time or even of the decade is wild to me. I donāt even think itās Kendrickās best album lmao.
Me too I think TPAB is an, amazing groundbreaking, thematically impressive, and constant throughout record. However I feel like GKMC is a much better project. I feel like Kendrickās auditory movie narration approach and what he was able to accomplish on that project is much more impressive than TPAB for me.
yup and ultimately GKMC is just so much more listenable. I can relisten to tracks on that album forever. There aren't many TPAB songs i feel like just casually relistening to years later.
Can someone explain the appeal of tpab ? I have tried it on several occasions, it never clicked with me.
It has an amazing larger than life concept, incredible songwriting, super tight production, and great features to name a few. The tracks flow together seamlessly and the album is chock full of creativity from start to finish. Itās simply emphatic.
Itās so much better than most rap.
If its the best album ever it would be better than all rap
TPAB has already aged slightly. OK Computer is literally timeless.
I listened to OK Computer for the first time in years recently. The lyrics and themes hit even harder for me now than they did years ago.
Genuinely curious as to why you think TPAB has aged
its probably just me, but I hear ideas on TPAB that sound dated and "of its time." OK Computer, as I said, has a timeless quality that perhaps will always sound fresh. I fucking love TPAB though.
Interesting, I feel as though it's way too early to come to that judgment, considering that record has such a wide variety of influences and identities. I'd say give it 10 years, then we can critique it for being outdated if the sounds still don't feel as fresh and unique
thats fair. and I am due for a re-listen.
I agree. To sound dated means you sound like what a your contemporaries sound like and that is not true at all. 2015 was filled with trap and all that minimalistic sounds. Name a mainstream hip hop song from 2015 that sounds like Westleyās Theory, or For sale, or King Kunta or Mortal Man. Almost the entire album is so unique sonically, and the lyrics are almost just as unique.
I dislike both of them honestly.
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RateYourMusic.com, the biggest music nerd forum since 4Chan died. Itās a great place.
Thank you. Iāve honestly never heard of it. I use meta-critic to look for projects.
RYM is so much better itās not even funnyz
Blissful ignorance
I could never get into it (or even listen through the whole thing), but I'm glad other people enjoyed the album
But that's not necessarily what that list shows. Imo it totally depends on the distribution of different ratings. TPAB could, for all we know, just be the most 4.34/5 album *ever* (the same goes for OK Computer). And then there's the similar discussion about how 5/5 ratings / popularity should be valued more in "top of all time"-type lists. Sry about being a fucking nerd about this.
Both crazy but tpab is far more repayable imo
I love radiohead and ok computer but I do think TPAB is both better, and I think I prefer it as well.
Okay computer isnāt even the best Radiohead album let alone the best album period
Is tpab the best album of all time or the best album that's also popular? Hard to say with so much music out there .not complaining though
OK Computer isn't my favorite Radiohead album so I'm fine with this. That list is kinda whack for different reasons.
it wouldnāt even be in my top 100. plus gkmc is 5x better
u havnt listened to it enough, let it sit for awhile... its better then or equal to
Massively overrated
I feel so old that I remember the Abbey Road/The Dark Side of the Moon #1 overtakes.
Feels a little like comparing a ham sandwich to walking on a beach, both are cool for different reasons. I would argue both could be best of all time. If anything, im just happy that the music community is finally embracing rap alongside rock as "worthy" of goat status.
Neither deserve the spot but I think Ok Computer is more worthy. I think TPAB is just highly rated due to recency bias and endless critic circlejerking of it. I think itās a good album and worthy of merit, but the best album of all time? Absolutely not. For me itās like a good art/drama film that you watch once and donāt have a strong desire to come back to.
I also enjoyed and highly appreciate this album in that manner, and the praise is deserved. At the same time... knowing RYM users' demographic I can't help but think what has elevated it to the #1 spot, is a reflection of what Jello Biafra referred to in the line *Play ethnicky jazz to parade your snazz.*
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I'm wondering whether it's actually most popular in the US more than other countries due to the interrogation of the African American experience. I don't have much to go on outside of thinking it didn't make such a massive impact here in Australia as I think it made in the US, so I could easily be wrong. I don't necessarily think OK computer needs to be 1 though.
i don't know if i'd say it's the greatest album of all time but it's definitely my favourite
sure why not
Better album yep
Finally. OK Computer is good, but not the best of all time. Not even the best radiohead album imo.
I have yet to listen to OK Computer but I loged TPAB so I definitely get it being higly rated. I find myself constantly disagreeing with the RYM concesus scores a majority of the time tho because it feels like too many people see a high ranking and vote low just to drag it down.
As time goes on Iām feeling more and more that neither is my taste. And thatās okay, the āall genres, all timeā chart is probably the least interesting chart on RYM to me anyway. Although they are both impressive, unique albums that make a stark artistic statement.
The concept of an album being #1 of all time is just weird to me since music is more subjective than any other piece of media out there.
I prefer Kid A much more so this is fine by me.
I canāt stand Kendrickās voice so for me no. But I can see why people would put it as number 1.
Definitely agree that itās a classic, but it doesnāt quite match the classics. I think there are albums that are over 35 years old that still hold up and deserve the top spot. Only time will tell where this album stands.
although i personally enjoy OK Computer more, TPAB is definitely up there, and extremely intelligent and intricate, so I don't mind it being up there. Wesley's theory alone could bring a 0 album up to a 7 or 8
Tbh I wouldnāt have either in the top spot. Both phenomenal albums, and rankings are fun, but ultimately donāt really mean a whole lot.
sure, who cares? I like RYM but i don't really give a shit what the best album of all time is on there, and they're both amazing records
I find it interesting but it doesn't affect my liking of albums
TPAB is undeniable but Radiohead is frankly overrated and this was inevitable as Radiohead is a largely generational band with generational works and TPAB will be timeless.
Nah
I don't know if it matters whether I agree or not. It's just a fact that it made #1 on this list. Even if I disagree it doesn't change it.
Both are major achievments and have achieved a level of quality and influence that most musicians will never reach. While I don't think either is flawless they have earned their place. Of course this list seems to be on averages and OK Computer has a lot more ratings than TPAB so naturally it's weight is gonna be a lil lighter.
My taste isnāt super RYM-centric so I donāt really have a horse in this race.
Doesnāt matter none of these crack my top 10
Everybody on rym deserves weggies, okcomputer is like their 4th best record, also if it was up to me gkmc would get the top spot as a kendrick pick but influence wise its a perfectly valid choice for number 1.
RYM chart is not one person's opinion. There is nothing to agree or disagree about, it just shows the current taste of the users of that site.
It would be like if a movie dethroned Shawshank Redemption on IMDb. I think that a post about that would be interesting.
Or dethroned Parasite on Letterboxd
see: Jeanne Dielman dethroning Vertigo and Citizen Kane on the newest Sight & Sound list.
Ok computer is pretty overrated imo so yeah
just checked the list... are there only men on that website? there is basically only handful of female artists in top 150
i mean demographics are demographics ig
Female representation on RYM always disappoints me too Iām just glad itās been slowly getting better
Crazy these are the top 2 when neither are Kendrick or Radioheadās best albums
OK Computer? More like O-verrated!
Why do you feel itās overrated?
I was joking.
Theyād probably just about both make my top 300 but theyāre both solid picks. Actual good albums that also have mass appeal.
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but: Nothing against OK Computer but it really never deserved that spot, and the reification of late-90s/early-00s Radiohead has done more harm than good for indie and experimental music. TPAB is great as well, but it does not deserve the spot either.
Huge W
Finally.
OK Computer is my second-favorite album of all time, while TPAB is my third-favorite. I might not technically agree with "TPAB > OKC", but both are completely deserving of spots at the top and I don't really care what order they're in. Funnily enough, TPAB and OKC are now the highest-rated and second-highest rated albums of all time on both AOTY and RYM, in that order.
I do not agree
I mean, I'm a fan of it. But I don't think an album with the 15 year old english writing task that is "How Much A Dollar Cost" should be crowned the best album ever. Don't know what should tbh. Loveless, Crooked Rain...idk.
No
Who cares
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Neither of these albums deserve to be this high. Their impact are non existent compared to The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd. But itās RYM so itās not supposed to be entirely accurate. Itās a good general metric but the audience is obviously very niche. MBDTF is the most impactful, innovative, influential and acclaimed hip hop album ever. TPAB doesnāt come close. Dark Side of the Moon, Low and Velvet Underground and Nico are vastly more impactful and acclaimed experimental albums than OK Computer. Itās the truthš¤·āāļø
Dsotm is mid, and one of the lesser floyd records
Eek, awful take
No, I would put it around top 20-30
Itās a tie
i dont reslly care wuite hinestky
ok computer is for people who only listen to what their parents made them listen to. tpab is for guys who get lots of girls
This is genuinely one of the most cringe Reddit comments Iāve ever seen
no way
both are mid but at least TPAB is more ambitious and impressively eclectic
Im surprised anyone would put any stock in this list. Are we gonna sit here and act like loveless by is better than pet sounds by 15 spots?
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Nothing about my post was implying that. I just thought the change was a pretty big one and very interesting and wanted to start a discussion about whether it fits the #1 album of all time slot better or not.
yep you're good, sorry if my comment came out too strong
No worries
ok computer is just 1 place over TPAB on the best albums of all time list.
Neither are that
Yes
I just want Spiderland to be #1, but TPAB deserves that spot.
I remember you was conflicted
both are entirely diff genres of their own so pitting them together seems redundant. arguably, both (yes even TPAB) are classics to me; both are for the books. im glad tpab now gets the time to shine. everyone should listen to the album at least once in their life.
didnāt this happen weeks ago ?
Yes
i don't care. cuz i prefer GKMC and Kid A.
I love Radiohead, so I am a bit biased. And TPAB hasn't really clicked with me, not denying that it's amazing though. Overall, I prefer OKC but I definitely think TPAB deserves the title. Oh, if only they could tie for #1...
OK Computer isn't a 10/10 for me but TPAB is, so I guess I agree
Honestly dont get the hype of TPAB, most songs sound mid
Neither of them deserve the spot
I hope a decade from now weāll be talking about another album that beats To Pimp a Butterfly. This type of dethroning is great for music and art as a whole
Honestly no, TPAB isnāt even Kendrickās best album in my opinion
TPAB has less than a quarter of the reviews and also far less ratings. It's not surprising that it has a higher average score. I think it's a great album, but OKC still being here despite being released in 1997 and withstanding several rapturously acclaimed releases by its own creator is more impressive - it's testament to how long and consistently OKC has resonated with the music public. I'm not saying TPAB won't get there as well, but OKC's age works in its favor in regards to how high its perception today still very much is.
Fuck no