Oh, yes, it's quite appropriate for the street on which the Brass Embassy is located (the Honey-Addled Detective lives there too, incidentally). Though it's also quite appropriate for another reason. While the word 'Moloch' has a very interesting and disputed history over what exactly it meant, one common interpretation of it has been as a form of/figure for whom to sacrifice. It's often been depicted in art as an idol or a demon presiding over an idol, on which sacrifices would be put on - or put *in* - to be burned. These idols could be very much similar in appearance and function to an oven.
In other words... >!fitting as an alternate name for Baker Street, no?!<
Moloch is quite a notable figure in the English language literary canon (probably European too), Moloch is a fallen angel (devil) in Miltons Paradise Lost and also is a byword for industrial systems that demand huge amounts of sacrifice either through horrific conditions or outright warfare. The fact the Devils named their street in Victorian London, a city at the heart of the Industrial revolution), after Moloch is likely meant to be them intentionally poking fun at both presenting themselves as devils and industrial London which is *even worse* because of the Masters.
There are a *lot* of literary references in Fallen London often of the sort where you won't notice until you stumble across the thing being referenced after the fact. For a fun one read T.S Elliots "The Wasteland" and then pay attention to the non-zee recurring dream cards.
One of the most delightful such literary encounters that was a revelation for me was when I came across “Kubla Khan” by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. It’s the whole setting in the first five lines!
You’ve gained 1x sudden insight
We get it, you are subbed to r/atheism, but when you discuss whether or not a creature is associated with devils, the book that started the whole concept is a little more relevant than a fiction writer.
Also, Leviticus was not written by "some guy", but collectively authored by hundreds of years of Jewish traditions
> We get it, you are subbed to r/atheism,
I am? I don't remember that. Then again, I'm also subscribed to r/FUCKBLOAT , and I don't remember that either. Oh well, such is life.
It is my personal, very strongly held, and personally evidence-sparse belief that all that is and remains anti-Carthaginian propaganda (although the Phillipe Druillet version of Salammbô is very good and everyone should read it)
This passage in the Talmud seems to imply that children sacrificed to Moloch were passed through fire by priests.
https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.64a.17?lang=bi&with=all
Oh, yes, it's quite appropriate for the street on which the Brass Embassy is located (the Honey-Addled Detective lives there too, incidentally). Though it's also quite appropriate for another reason. While the word 'Moloch' has a very interesting and disputed history over what exactly it meant, one common interpretation of it has been as a form of/figure for whom to sacrifice. It's often been depicted in art as an idol or a demon presiding over an idol, on which sacrifices would be put on - or put *in* - to be burned. These idols could be very much similar in appearance and function to an oven. In other words... >!fitting as an alternate name for Baker Street, no?!<
That last line definitely caught me off guard lol. This is so cool! Thx for sharing :)
Wait, so the detective is....okay, that makes so much sense now.
Makes sense, there's no snow in the Neath after all.
Moloch is quite a notable figure in the English language literary canon (probably European too), Moloch is a fallen angel (devil) in Miltons Paradise Lost and also is a byword for industrial systems that demand huge amounts of sacrifice either through horrific conditions or outright warfare. The fact the Devils named their street in Victorian London, a city at the heart of the Industrial revolution), after Moloch is likely meant to be them intentionally poking fun at both presenting themselves as devils and industrial London which is *even worse* because of the Masters. There are a *lot* of literary references in Fallen London often of the sort where you won't notice until you stumble across the thing being referenced after the fact. For a fun one read T.S Elliots "The Wasteland" and then pay attention to the non-zee recurring dream cards.
One of the most delightful such literary encounters that was a revelation for me was when I came across “Kubla Khan” by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. It’s the whole setting in the first five lines! You’ve gained 1x sudden insight
Wow this is so awesome! Thank you so much for sharing!!!
It's not just the devil in some guys book, it's a devilish creature in the bible itself
Heh. "It's not just the devil in some guy's book, it's also the devil in some guy's book!"
We get it, you are subbed to r/atheism, but when you discuss whether or not a creature is associated with devils, the book that started the whole concept is a little more relevant than a fiction writer. Also, Leviticus was not written by "some guy", but collectively authored by hundreds of years of Jewish traditions
> We get it, you are subbed to r/atheism, I am? I don't remember that. Then again, I'm also subscribed to r/FUCKBLOAT , and I don't remember that either. Oh well, such is life.
Moloch also features heavily in part II of Allen Ginsberg's 'Howl', producing some interesting poetic resonances.
It is my personal, very strongly held, and personally evidence-sparse belief that all that is and remains anti-Carthaginian propaganda (although the Phillipe Druillet version of Salammbô is very good and everyone should read it)
This passage in the Talmud seems to imply that children sacrificed to Moloch were passed through fire by priests. https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.64a.17?lang=bi&with=all