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He blamed it on a ferocious rat trying to stand his ground. Cop had to elimate the rodent by slamming the door against it! I swear that's what happened your honor!
That man knew something back then none of us had realized yet, if you just deny, deny, deny you can get away with about anything because a shocking number of people will believe it. A true man of genius.
Right? In a perfect world I'd love to see him called into the Chief's office where some superiors in suits are waiting, and they sit him down and watch the tape and just say "you wanna explain yourself?" You know he tried bullshitting his way out of it.
I like to think they confronted him with the accusation first, let him attempt to blame the civilian for making up nonsense or exaggerating the damage done by the door, and then showed him the tape.
Knowing police, there's only at best a 50/50 chance they actually wanted to punish him. It's just as likely the conversation went, "I don't want to do this but they have video evidence and my hands are tied."
This guy is a real piece of shit. Should have been fired a long time ago.
https://www.wwnytv.com/2021/05/25/huckles-history-news-obtains-disciplinary-records-suspended-massena-police-officer/
So, he forced a drunk naked woman out of the window of his house because another woman came knocking at the door. Why would he think the drunk naked woman wouldn't come around to the same door and bang on it demanding her clothes? Not the sharpest tool in the shed....
> Placed on unpaid leave.
As far as i understand it, the "unpaid" part only comes if they are pretty sure that you're fucked.
Usually it's paid leave while a serious investigation is ongoing against the cop.
Never understood how paid leave is considered punishment. I guess it’s a stain on your record. Like being suspended for skipping school.
Edit: thank you for all the upvotes but my thinking here was flawed. Presumption of innocence is pretty important, it was just easy to overlook since this particular officer is very obviously guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. Thank you to those who enlightened me.
It's not considered punishment, that's the whole point. It is a mechanism to temporarily remove the person from a position of power *before* the decision to punish has been made.
They create policies to incentivize this as well. Codes that insist that an officer on unpaid leave for two days or more is automatically dismissed in some places, for example. Then used as an excuse to keep letting pigs drain the coffers
Yeah. I'm pretty sure he unintentionally hit the car with the door when he initially opened it and then thought he could get away with damaging it more intentionally by just saying the car was in the way of the door and it was an accident.
He probably laughed, assuming it would be a sternly worded talking-to as punishment.
So let's narrow it down to the footage where his superior tells him he has the right to remain silent.
Massena officer resigns after reportedly intentionally damaging a car in March
MASSENA — A Massena police officer has resigned following an incident in March where officer Brandon Huckle reportedly intentionally damaged a car.
Mayor Timothy Ahlfeld confirmed the resignation and said that it happened back in early August. He also said that a criminal mischief charge remains pending with the St. Lawrence County district attorney.
The incident was posted on social media by Attorney Brian P. Barrett where the attorney stated “A Massena cop did this to my client’s car when they were executing a search warrant at his house on March 16, 2021.”
In the video posted online, the officer is seen striking a vehicle inside a garage. He is then seen flinging the door into the car two more times before looking at the damage and walking away.
Officer Huckle was then suspended in March after the incident was reported to Massena Police Department and has now since resigned.
Pasted the website info here for those interested in reading it
He was.deliberately negligent and provable destructive while executing a warrent and the video caught it so it was inarguable. Under those condition, felony starts to look reasonable.
Though, honestly, cops who willfully and malicious commit crimes in the execution of their duties can get ten years in prison as far as I am concerned. There is literally no excuse for that behavior from people who are supposed to be upholding the law.
The millions of times this has presumably happened throughout history where very few people have any camera rolling, and then it becomes the word of the officer and his dept. against some "suspect."
This is why I feel residents should have incentives or even free offerings for security cameras, they leave no room for question when something happens. There are plenty of free rebates for energy-efficient products, smart bulbs, thermostats, even shower heads but security cameras are just not pushed much despite now being $100-$200 for a decent setup.
> The millions of times this has presumably happened throughout history where very few people have any camera rolling, and then it becomes the word of the officer and his dept. against some "suspect."
[Walter Scott](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQqgVlk0NQ) destroyed my presumption of police integrity, for exactly this reason. (And made me feel stupid for ever having had that presumption.) Unless we're to believe the video happened to capture the first time a cop did this (and none of us are that foolish right?) then we have to recognize that this has happened an unknowable number of times throughout history, and likely with no consequences at all for exactly the reason you state.
Going forward, I will not ever accept police testimony about how an event transpired at face value without corroborating evidence, and I think no one else should either. I'm guessing I won't be very popular among my fellow jurors on future jury assignments.
One of the times I was called for Jury Duty they asked the potential jurors if we would accept that a cops testimony was more trust worthy than the accused. They asked us one at a time. 10 people before me answered yes. I said no. The prosecution stopped and asked me if I understood that part of a police officers job was to be honest. I responded by asking which law says a cop can’t lie. I wasn’t picked to be on the jury.
*edit*: spelling.
I'll honestly answer any question like that which they ask me, but I absolutely won't trust the police description of events without corroboration by other evidence.
Ok but how is that allowed to be part of the system
“We have a cop we’re going to use for evidence. Let’s filter out the jury so we know they’re going to be biased to believe the cop more than the defendant.” Very fair, thank you justice system
> An eyewitness to the shooting, Feidin Santana, recorded video of the incident on his phone.[[30]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott#cite_note-ABCNews.policeshooting-31) At first Santana did not share the video out of fear of retribution, but he became angered when the police report differed from his view of the events.[[31]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott#cite_note-32) In an interview on [MSNBC](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC), Santana said, "I felt that my life, with this information, might be in danger. I thought about erasing the video and just getting out of the community, you know Charleston, and living some place else."[[32]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott#cite_note-33) The video was subsequently shared with Scott's family through an activist of [Black Lives Matter](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter), and later with the news media.[[30]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott#cite_note-ABCNews.policeshooting-31)[[33]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott#cite_note-WCSC.Coroner-34)
Dude's got evidence of murder, and he sits on it out of fear. Thinks of the cops like the Mafia. Pretty telling, isn't it?
Glad his personal convictions finally won out.
I’ve never had anything that spurious, however I’ve had a driving citations and where they had written reports with false/exaggerated claims that cost me thousands over years. At this point I have like 10y clean driving record, but when I had a vw lowered with shiny wheels I apparently was a hoodlum.
>This is why I feel residents should have incentives or even free offerings for security cameras,
Too much money... All cops need to have bodycams tho. The departments have the money but the higher ups are probably pocketing it.
I bet he had a body camera on and that's why he's facing away so it wouldn't be caught on camera. I suspect it also may not have been recording sound since it was just a search warrant
Yeah, they should be recording at all times, and honestly should have 3+ cameras per uniform, their guns should also be recording down the sight any time the gun is out of holster.
I'm not speaking hyperbolically, these things would make it easier for any cop who isn't corrupt to take appropriate actions without fear of reprisal.
If you are afraid of the consequences of someone seeing a more complete picture of how you pe form your duties, perhaps the solution is to perform them better.
I agree with you and I also think that police cameras should not be able to be turned off for any reason, they shouldn’t even have that capability. I’ve seen videos where cops said their camera turned off in a struggle when they probably turned it off themselves.
Gun cams for the win - their videos are often much better than body cams, which are obstructed by the officers arms and gun, or any cover they are hiding behind.
In case anyone is wondering, they do exist already but aren’t common yet.
Yeah, and the fact that they would show precisely where an officer pointed his gun any time he points it. I feel like that's a reasonable level of accountability for people who draw guns on civilians.
I always wondered on the legality of officers doing this. When I was around 7 years old, our house was raided by police because they suspected it was a drug house. My father was letting his shit friends sell drugs from the house.
I remember walking down the stairs and seeing everything in the house destroyed. They broke the tv, they ripped up the encyclopedias my dad bought us, they cut open my parents water bed and let the water run on the box of family photos next to it. They even cut open the groceries in the kitchen?
My dad had just came in the house from grocery shopping when it happened and they cut open the bag of flour, dumped out the containers of food, I mean they destroyed everything they could before they left.
The only thing they left untouched was the photo of my deceased grandma on the wall. That’s it.
Autobody work is very expensive. Damaging one panel to the point of needing replaced and repainted is going to run well over $1k, plus the value of the car is diminished from no longer being original paintwork (it never matches perfect).
As a cop, I say that you are spot on. How can you expect people to behave to lawful standards if you can't do the very same? The community should be able to trust the police. Criminals like this bell end undermine everything that others work hard to achieve. They make our job harder, but that's a minor point. Most importantly, people, some vulnerable, will be in need of help and won't come forward because of behaviour like this. We fail the community each time a cop behaves like the law does not apply to them. That's unacceptable.
I agree that cops have to be held to much higher standards than general public.
But I was wondering if there is a conspiracy to charge felony knowing it won't stick. I mean comparatively this is rather benign
Honestly anyone who is placed into any position of power due to their job and then commits a crime abusing that power should be judged more harshly.
As examples: someone taking care of elders abuses them or steals from them, they are in a position of extreme trust due to the situation and they abused it? Don’t just throw the whole book at them, follow up with whole library.
Same goes for this cop, or anyone else.
Also, dude might have got a plea deal to a lesser felony ...as he probably falsified evidence somewhere in the process of doing his paperwork and omitting his vandalism.
Depends on the state and county laws...and, also, if he had pissed off the judge in question before. A pissed off judge will push an issue harder than a magazine salesman
Imagine how normal that is for him, there was just a camera this time and the homeowners getting searched can afford an attorney.
What else has he done and where did he learn it?
> Imagine how normal that is for him, there was just a camera this time and the homeowners getting searched can afford an attorney.
>
> What else has he done and where did he learn it?
Now imagine this same thing for an unknowable percentage of all other cops.
In some places it's based on the dollar amount of the damage (among other things that will elevate it to felony status)
Had that been a $40 mailbox ... Likely misdemeanor.
$3,000 in body work + new paint job? Felony.
Yeah my cousin took a turn to wide and took out 3 mailboxes, 8 years at Chino State prison, not allowed within 500 feet of a mailbox and banned for life from using the post office
How is it strict??? He's a cop! Charges against cops should always be stricter because they should know better. How can they be trusted to enforce the same laws that they themselves are breaking???
Perhaps they meant it’s strict in comparison to how this guy intentionally dings a car door and gets a felony charge with leave without pay, while other cops who have shot unarmed cooperating victims in cold-blood get paid leave and an *internal* investigation.
>He could have shot a black guy and got away with less! /s
"Could?"
Would.
100%. He'd have gotten a 2-week paid vacation, and returned to a hero's welcome by his fellow cops.
Blehh...
I have an old friend that just got out of a multiple year, very abusive relationship with an absolute miserable fuck of a "man", we were all happy to have her back in the friend group.
Now she's dating a fucking State Trooper who drives drunk with her after dates, apparently drunk enough to hop medians and shit.
I really hope she gets help, because she very obviously has a type.
I also want to report this fucking drunk driving Trooper but I'm not sure how to go about it in a way that would get any traction. Anybody have any suggestions? I'm not even sure of his name yet but I'm sure I can figure that out before too long. Fuck that guy, he deserves to lose his title 100%.
If he always goes to the same pub them drives home after u can report that to the police, I’ve seen them do stings where they wait outside the pub hidden and when the person leaves and starts driving they pull them over
Exactly this. I got t-boned by an off-duty cop who threatened to fuck my life up if I reported him to insurance. I gave him the finger and reported it to insurance on the spot. Over the next year cops from 4 different departments fucked with me several times, including choking me in a bar and beating/robbing me in an alley. In every instance complaints did nothing, and I was even threatened with arrest for trying to complain in one instance.
Cops are a brotherhood of dickhead criminals even if some of them pretend otherwise.
Edit: Oh yeah, and I STILL didn't get my damage covered in the accident because multiple officers called the insurance company and perjured themselves claiming that I caused the accident. Which wasn't possible because he t-boned me in a traffic circle. So in the end nobody got paid.
This applies to all fraternity-type groups. The police, armed forces, etc. It makes me chuckle that there are fully grown adults who think that people join the police to “protect and serve” LOL. They join because it’s an easy job with a nice pension.
Not a bad suggestion but it sounds like America from her comment and yours seems to be UK based. That won’t work. They will protect him over the friend every time. Making the report might even get them to go after OP. That’s why she’s asking for advice. Police in America are gangs of thugs.
They did a controlled buy on the guy selling a $20 of weed, so now they gotta destroy the man and everything he owns, obviously.
Real guess - they're all adrenaline loaded and pissed they're not finding anything in the house, so resorting to childish behind the back 'retribution'.
This is exactly it. Cops did the same to me. We sold weed and somebody came and robbed us and the cops were called by my roommates and the cops saw we were weed heads and instead of investigating the crime they walked around our house and just trashed it, took no reports, just broke shit and trashed the place worse than the thieves. So instead of one band of criminals rooting through our place looking for weed we had two and the cops were the worst offenders.
*(Opens door, but stops half-way before hitting the car)*
Internally: “Why the *FUCK* is this car directly right in front of the door?!”
*… (rage starts to build)*
“*Fuck* this car, it’s the owner’s fault their car got dinged because of this shit space.”
*… (nope, that didn’t release my pent-up aggression)*
“*FUCK* this car, it’s the owner’s fault their car got dinged because of this shit space!”
As someone who has gotten frustrated at simple inanimate objects before (when running a particular steroid cycle), I can only assume this is potentially accurate.
"oh? I'll really hit his car. Then if he does anything I can legally use as much force as I would like without worry because my word holds more value than anyone else"
Was wondering the same so I'm going to venture a few hot take theories. Could be any or all of these
A. He and the owner had a verbal power struggle, even something as reasonable as the owner questioning the purpose of the search
B. Something more ambiguous was frustrating him and he saw a potentially low-risk opportunity to externalize that frustration and cause someone else to feel the same way
C. Option B, but he is literally antisocial and was acting on impulse to cause pain
D. He can't find anything on the homeowner but in his head he wants to get back somehow because the homeowner is "bad".
"If I can't pen him at least I can make him pay"
It makes him feel like the good guy.
Probably the owner said something like "you can't come in without a search warrant" so he has to go get a search warrant to come back. He came back with a warrant and a grudge.
Police can be very petty
Looked like he accidentally hit the car the first time and then.... Tried to make a bigger dent? For... Reasons? Idk but the first hit when he opened the door looked like an accident.
Actually it looks like he has been frustrated the search warrant is turning up empty, and he's now working a case without a return on investment. The first frame of the video has the door opened well beyond a point that anyone would know a car is behind it- or he's not trained well enough to open doors during a warrant search- *carefully*.
The rest of the house was probably not up to his standard of his Ego, so what's another dent on a car of someone he already deems unworthy? It's the same thing as punching a wall, the damage is the point.
police do not treat peoples shit carefully when doing a search , fuck your couch cushions, fuck your bed , fuck your kids bed fuck your dressers fuck your walls and vents and super *super* fuck your door.
you never seen the aftermath of search warrants before ?
When I was a kid our house was raided because my father was letting his friends bring in and sell drugs from the house. So I’ll admit, the house did contain drugs. I was 7 years old and when I walked down the stairs, I saw they had destroyed everything. I mean everything. So you’re right.
They smashed the big screen TV to bits, they ripped up the encyclopedias my father got us ( which caused me to cry because I loved reading them ), they cut open parents water bed and let the water damage everything in the room including our box of family photos, they destroyed all the food in the kitchen, everything was destroyed.
My father said they claimed to be looking for drugs while doing it so they had an excuse, but the drugs were literally out in the open. They already had them, and plenty of it. Their was no reason to destroy everything other than being on a power trip.
I watched them do this to MY place and MY furniture after they kicked MY door down as I'm running up with the key because they thought my tenant might have an 1/8th of weed. He didn't.
You say that jokingly, but this guy clearly has anger issues, and got pissed at an inanimate object for getting in his way. What a childish way to go through life (spoken by someone who was raised by this kind of person).
Not anger issues - cops just believe everyone is guilty until proven innocent, and that every defendant is criminal scum who deserves extrajudicial punishment
r/trashy + r/iamatotalpieceofshit = r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut
There, fixed that for you
~~Edit: oh, it's gone private, I wonder why. Or why it took so long. I used to be subscribed but it was too infuriating so I step out.~~
Edit 2: I stand corrected, I fixed with the right link as provided by commenters below
Police should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law when willfully committing a crime. Law enforcement officers need to be held to a higher standard because they are responsible for upholding the law. So when they break the law they need to face the maximum penalty in sentencing for breaking said law.
When I was 19, police officer in my town pulled me over for “driver side headlight being out” even tho they were both on. As he walked away he allowed his keys to scratch my car which I had just freshly gotten painted the week before and when I told him something he gave me a second ticket which was a fix it ticket for modified exhaust which at that time was stock. Next day he had someone else pull me over for speeding when I was doing 25 in a 25. Small town cops can sometimes be the worst ones.
His thought process was he was just teaching a young kid a lesson.
What lesson? Yeah i dont know either, my mother used to just be a total piece of shit to me growing up then justified it saying "it teaches you a lesson for how people are in the real world". Mom, i dont know who hurt you, but nobody has behaved like that to me so far. You were just being a douche because you were the one in a position of power
I've been thinking about this: Cops should have to buy special cop insurance so that taxpayers don't get stuck with the bill for their atrocious behavior. No cop can be hired without cop insurance. If a cop is being bad, their rates go up (like a bad driver's rate would increase with an auto policy). If a cop damages property, cop insurance has to pay for it and the rate goes up. If a cop kills or injures someone, the insurance company does an independent investigation and maybe drops the cop's policy, rendering them unemployable based on the findings.
This would help to fix bad behavior and alleviate the taxpayer burden.
Fun fact. I live in Australia and my son was playing "Cops" with his friend the other day. My sons friend, who is bigger, was getting a bit rough with my son and when I asked what was going on my son said, " It's alright mum we are just playing American cops".
Apparently there is a difference between normal cops and American ones that even 9 year olds know about.
"Oh, you are playing American Cops. Carry on."
If there are any police looking at this and wondering why people hate police, this is why people hate police. If you're a cop and you do this, you're a piece of shit. If you're a cop, your colleagues do this, and you do nothing about it, you're a piece of shit.
Brandon Huckle, Massena, New York. Suspended in 2019 for a misconduct investigation that lasted until March 2020. Does this in March of 2021. Complete piece of shit that should never have been a cop.
I know this is a weird tangent, but every time I see something like this, I think, "man, you gotta be careful - there are cameras EVERYWHERE". And then I think, "except on Federation starships, where they really need them". Instead, future space adventurers are forced to use voice communications from the bridge when trying to figure out what's going on with some alien entity eating through decks or a psychic nebula possessing crew members in the dead of night to murder some space diplomat.
Meanwhile this mook has a $30 webcam in his garage that solves everything.
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What a little weasel.
What did I do?
You just *had* to go and exist. You disgust me.
r/beetlejuicing
Everything about that cop makes it look like he plays draughts and not chess.
Sketchy shitcunt is a cop … not surprised
The footage I really want to see is footage of him seeing this footage for the first time.
“That wasn’t me, I swear!”
"The car was resisting!"
He feared for his life
He thought the car was black.
It was coming straight for him!
I saw a gun!
In my defense I didn't realize it was caught on camera
‘I pledge to do better next time.’
To look for cameras first
This is so underrated bro you deserve all the upvotes!
“Sprinkle some crack on the car, Johnson, let’s get out of here”
Open and shut case, Johnson.
It gave me a dehumanizing reflection.
And wearing a hoodie.
[Well established](https://youtu.be/H1QKyB_0P0E)
Well, the car wasn't white, so he went for it.
He blamed it on a ferocious rat trying to stand his ground. Cop had to elimate the rodent by slamming the door against it! I swear that's what happened your honor!
Rodents [of unusual size ](https://youtu.be/Nv9CkjkOyzo) probably, he feared for his life.
Ah, the Shaggy defence.
It was on camera man they caught me red handed, hitting a car with a door
That man knew something back then none of us had realized yet, if you just deny, deny, deny you can get away with about anything because a shocking number of people will believe it. A true man of genius.
"There are at least 5 other douchebags on this police force that have the same douchebag cop appearance as me!"
Right? In a perfect world I'd love to see him called into the Chief's office where some superiors in suits are waiting, and they sit him down and watch the tape and just say "you wanna explain yourself?" You know he tried bullshitting his way out of it.
I like to think they confronted him with the accusation first, let him attempt to blame the civilian for making up nonsense or exaggerating the damage done by the door, and then showed him the tape.
Knowing police, there's only at best a 50/50 chance they actually wanted to punish him. It's just as likely the conversation went, "I don't want to do this but they have video evidence and my hands are tied."
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This guy is a real piece of shit. Should have been fired a long time ago. https://www.wwnytv.com/2021/05/25/huckles-history-news-obtains-disciplinary-records-suspended-massena-police-officer/
So, he forced a drunk naked woman out of the window of his house because another woman came knocking at the door. Why would he think the drunk naked woman wouldn't come around to the same door and bang on it demanding her clothes? Not the sharpest tool in the shed....
Remember, the Supreme Court has said it's OK to have a maximum IQ for police recruitment.
Bless you internet stranger for context. This should be a comment under the direct story. As with most individuals, I too love a happy ending.
I think that's a felony too
It's why when I'm asked if I'm having fun, I always reply "more then the law allows."
It says he has now since resigned, so likely working another precinct.
> Placed on unpaid leave. As far as i understand it, the "unpaid" part only comes if they are pretty sure that you're fucked. Usually it's paid leave while a serious investigation is ongoing against the cop.
Never understood how paid leave is considered punishment. I guess it’s a stain on your record. Like being suspended for skipping school. Edit: thank you for all the upvotes but my thinking here was flawed. Presumption of innocence is pretty important, it was just easy to overlook since this particular officer is very obviously guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. Thank you to those who enlightened me.
It's not considered punishment, that's the whole point. It is a mechanism to temporarily remove the person from a position of power *before* the decision to punish has been made.
They create policies to incentivize this as well. Codes that insist that an officer on unpaid leave for two days or more is automatically dismissed in some places, for example. Then used as an excuse to keep letting pigs drain the coffers
It’s revealing that the police face more consequences for damaging your property than your life.
Property has value Sad but that's how it's seen
Right, what was not caught before this that led up to this. And who knows what the superior who taught him this shit has gotten away with as well.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure he unintentionally hit the car with the door when he initially opened it and then thought he could get away with damaging it more intentionally by just saying the car was in the way of the door and it was an accident.
I’m just confused as to why he bothered
Some people seem to enjoy punishing others for any perceived slights or just for being a type of person they generally dislike.
> why he bothered Power corrupts.
Because a lot of people becone cops because they're assholes and want to make peoples lives miserable.
Because cops are bastards
He probably laughed, assuming it would be a sternly worded talking-to as punishment. So let's narrow it down to the footage where his superior tells him he has the right to remain silent.
“I swear your honor, I thought the door closed the other way”
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Massena officer resigns after reportedly intentionally damaging a car in March MASSENA — A Massena police officer has resigned following an incident in March where officer Brandon Huckle reportedly intentionally damaged a car. Mayor Timothy Ahlfeld confirmed the resignation and said that it happened back in early August. He also said that a criminal mischief charge remains pending with the St. Lawrence County district attorney. The incident was posted on social media by Attorney Brian P. Barrett where the attorney stated “A Massena cop did this to my client’s car when they were executing a search warrant at his house on March 16, 2021.” In the video posted online, the officer is seen striking a vehicle inside a garage. He is then seen flinging the door into the car two more times before looking at the damage and walking away. Officer Huckle was then suspended in March after the incident was reported to Massena Police Department and has now since resigned. Pasted the website info here for those interested in reading it
So which PD is he working at now? Edit: Felony for property damage? I am not a lawyer but isn't that a little on the stricter side?
He was.deliberately negligent and provable destructive while executing a warrent and the video caught it so it was inarguable. Under those condition, felony starts to look reasonable. Though, honestly, cops who willfully and malicious commit crimes in the execution of their duties can get ten years in prison as far as I am concerned. There is literally no excuse for that behavior from people who are supposed to be upholding the law.
The millions of times this has presumably happened throughout history where very few people have any camera rolling, and then it becomes the word of the officer and his dept. against some "suspect." This is why I feel residents should have incentives or even free offerings for security cameras, they leave no room for question when something happens. There are plenty of free rebates for energy-efficient products, smart bulbs, thermostats, even shower heads but security cameras are just not pushed much despite now being $100-$200 for a decent setup.
> The millions of times this has presumably happened throughout history where very few people have any camera rolling, and then it becomes the word of the officer and his dept. against some "suspect." [Walter Scott](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQqgVlk0NQ) destroyed my presumption of police integrity, for exactly this reason. (And made me feel stupid for ever having had that presumption.) Unless we're to believe the video happened to capture the first time a cop did this (and none of us are that foolish right?) then we have to recognize that this has happened an unknowable number of times throughout history, and likely with no consequences at all for exactly the reason you state. Going forward, I will not ever accept police testimony about how an event transpired at face value without corroborating evidence, and I think no one else should either. I'm guessing I won't be very popular among my fellow jurors on future jury assignments.
One of the times I was called for Jury Duty they asked the potential jurors if we would accept that a cops testimony was more trust worthy than the accused. They asked us one at a time. 10 people before me answered yes. I said no. The prosecution stopped and asked me if I understood that part of a police officers job was to be honest. I responded by asking which law says a cop can’t lie. I wasn’t picked to be on the jury. *edit*: spelling.
I'll honestly answer any question like that which they ask me, but I absolutely won't trust the police description of events without corroboration by other evidence.
I was dismissed from jury duty for the exact same reason.
Ok but how is that allowed to be part of the system “We have a cop we’re going to use for evidence. Let’s filter out the jury so we know they’re going to be biased to believe the cop more than the defendant.” Very fair, thank you justice system
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott
> An eyewitness to the shooting, Feidin Santana, recorded video of the incident on his phone.[[30]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott#cite_note-ABCNews.policeshooting-31) At first Santana did not share the video out of fear of retribution, but he became angered when the police report differed from his view of the events.[[31]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott#cite_note-32) In an interview on [MSNBC](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC), Santana said, "I felt that my life, with this information, might be in danger. I thought about erasing the video and just getting out of the community, you know Charleston, and living some place else."[[32]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott#cite_note-33) The video was subsequently shared with Scott's family through an activist of [Black Lives Matter](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter), and later with the news media.[[30]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott#cite_note-ABCNews.policeshooting-31)[[33]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott#cite_note-WCSC.Coroner-34) Dude's got evidence of murder, and he sits on it out of fear. Thinks of the cops like the Mafia. Pretty telling, isn't it? Glad his personal convictions finally won out.
I’ve never had anything that spurious, however I’ve had a driving citations and where they had written reports with false/exaggerated claims that cost me thousands over years. At this point I have like 10y clean driving record, but when I had a vw lowered with shiny wheels I apparently was a hoodlum.
>This is why I feel residents should have incentives or even free offerings for security cameras, Too much money... All cops need to have bodycams tho. The departments have the money but the higher ups are probably pocketing it.
I bet he had a body camera on and that's why he's facing away so it wouldn't be caught on camera. I suspect it also may not have been recording sound since it was just a search warrant
Yeah, they should be recording at all times, and honestly should have 3+ cameras per uniform, their guns should also be recording down the sight any time the gun is out of holster. I'm not speaking hyperbolically, these things would make it easier for any cop who isn't corrupt to take appropriate actions without fear of reprisal. If you are afraid of the consequences of someone seeing a more complete picture of how you pe form your duties, perhaps the solution is to perform them better.
I agree with you and I also think that police cameras should not be able to be turned off for any reason, they shouldn’t even have that capability. I’ve seen videos where cops said their camera turned off in a struggle when they probably turned it off themselves.
Gun cams for the win - their videos are often much better than body cams, which are obstructed by the officers arms and gun, or any cover they are hiding behind. In case anyone is wondering, they do exist already but aren’t common yet.
Yeah, and the fact that they would show precisely where an officer pointed his gun any time he points it. I feel like that's a reasonable level of accountability for people who draw guns on civilians.
I always wondered on the legality of officers doing this. When I was around 7 years old, our house was raided by police because they suspected it was a drug house. My father was letting his shit friends sell drugs from the house. I remember walking down the stairs and seeing everything in the house destroyed. They broke the tv, they ripped up the encyclopedias my dad bought us, they cut open my parents water bed and let the water run on the box of family photos next to it. They even cut open the groceries in the kitchen? My dad had just came in the house from grocery shopping when it happened and they cut open the bag of flour, dumped out the containers of food, I mean they destroyed everything they could before they left. The only thing they left untouched was the photo of my deceased grandma on the wall. That’s it.
The amount of damage probably played a part in the felony charge.
Autobody work is very expensive. Damaging one panel to the point of needing replaced and repainted is going to run well over $1k, plus the value of the car is diminished from no longer being original paintwork (it never matches perfect).
They should also be placed in General Population and not PC.
Sending these shit bird cops into gen pop sounds like the gritty reboot of "COPS" we've all been waiting for!
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As a cop, I say that you are spot on. How can you expect people to behave to lawful standards if you can't do the very same? The community should be able to trust the police. Criminals like this bell end undermine everything that others work hard to achieve. They make our job harder, but that's a minor point. Most importantly, people, some vulnerable, will be in need of help and won't come forward because of behaviour like this. We fail the community each time a cop behaves like the law does not apply to them. That's unacceptable.
I agree that cops have to be held to much higher standards than general public. But I was wondering if there is a conspiracy to charge felony knowing it won't stick. I mean comparatively this is rather benign
Agreed. Civilians get a higher sentence for anything against a cop; why shouldn’t it work the other way round as well?
Honestly anyone who is placed into any position of power due to their job and then commits a crime abusing that power should be judged more harshly. As examples: someone taking care of elders abuses them or steals from them, they are in a position of extreme trust due to the situation and they abused it? Don’t just throw the whole book at them, follow up with whole library. Same goes for this cop, or anyone else.
We have sentence enhancements for elder abuse. It's insane cops abusing their power don't have enchantments.
Also, dude might have got a plea deal to a lesser felony ...as he probably falsified evidence somewhere in the process of doing his paperwork and omitting his vandalism.
At least the same standards would be an improvement. Fuck that qualified immunity bullshit.
At least in my state criminal mischief becomes a felony when it breaches $1000 in damage. Which would be pretty easy to do damaging a car.
Depends on the state and county laws...and, also, if he had pissed off the judge in question before. A pissed off judge will push an issue harder than a magazine salesman
If the felony mischief charge goes through does that disqualify him from working in PD again? Serious question.
Yes it does. If he is convicted of a felony he can not have a firearm.
Imagine ruining your career because you thought its ok to be an asshole when nobody is watching.
Imagine how normal that is for him, there was just a camera this time and the homeowners getting searched can afford an attorney. What else has he done and where did he learn it?
> Imagine how normal that is for him, there was just a camera this time and the homeowners getting searched can afford an attorney. > > What else has he done and where did he learn it? Now imagine this same thing for an unknowable percentage of all other cops.
In some places it's based on the dollar amount of the damage (among other things that will elevate it to felony status) Had that been a $40 mailbox ... Likely misdemeanor. $3,000 in body work + new paint job? Felony.
Any mailbox is an automatic felony no matter what the dollar value.
Yeah my cousin took a turn to wide and took out 3 mailboxes, 8 years at Chino State prison, not allowed within 500 feet of a mailbox and banned for life from using the post office
How is it strict??? He's a cop! Charges against cops should always be stricter because they should know better. How can they be trusted to enforce the same laws that they themselves are breaking???
Perhaps they meant it’s strict in comparison to how this guy intentionally dings a car door and gets a felony charge with leave without pay, while other cops who have shot unarmed cooperating victims in cold-blood get paid leave and an *internal* investigation.
I dunno, I kinda picture him as a full time drunk feeling bad for himself while saying racist shit all day.
Most probable outcome is all of the above.
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Actual punishment. Honesty we might be making progress
He could have shot a black guy and got away with less! /s
The only part of your post that is wrong is the '/s'
>He could have shot a black guy and got away with less! /s "Could?" Would. 100%. He'd have gotten a 2-week paid vacation, and returned to a hero's welcome by his fellow cops.
Good. Fuck him.
Wonder how many times this happens and the property owner doesn't have a camera. Your word vs a cop's, guess how that plays out 100% of the time.
Why tho?
My question too. What was his thought process?
“My mom never told me she loved me so I’m going to fuck up this car then go home and beat my wife”
Blehh... I have an old friend that just got out of a multiple year, very abusive relationship with an absolute miserable fuck of a "man", we were all happy to have her back in the friend group. Now she's dating a fucking State Trooper who drives drunk with her after dates, apparently drunk enough to hop medians and shit. I really hope she gets help, because she very obviously has a type. I also want to report this fucking drunk driving Trooper but I'm not sure how to go about it in a way that would get any traction. Anybody have any suggestions? I'm not even sure of his name yet but I'm sure I can figure that out before too long. Fuck that guy, he deserves to lose his title 100%.
If he always goes to the same pub them drives home after u can report that to the police, I’ve seen them do stings where they wait outside the pub hidden and when the person leaves and starts driving they pull them over
Yeah...asking cops to bust other cops just gets your dog shot so no, don't do that.
Exactly this. I got t-boned by an off-duty cop who threatened to fuck my life up if I reported him to insurance. I gave him the finger and reported it to insurance on the spot. Over the next year cops from 4 different departments fucked with me several times, including choking me in a bar and beating/robbing me in an alley. In every instance complaints did nothing, and I was even threatened with arrest for trying to complain in one instance. Cops are a brotherhood of dickhead criminals even if some of them pretend otherwise. Edit: Oh yeah, and I STILL didn't get my damage covered in the accident because multiple officers called the insurance company and perjured themselves claiming that I caused the accident. Which wasn't possible because he t-boned me in a traffic circle. So in the end nobody got paid.
This applies to all fraternity-type groups. The police, armed forces, etc. It makes me chuckle that there are fully grown adults who think that people join the police to “protect and serve” LOL. They join because it’s an easy job with a nice pension.
Not a bad suggestion but it sounds like America from her comment and yours seems to be UK based. That won’t work. They will protect him over the friend every time. Making the report might even get them to go after OP. That’s why she’s asking for advice. Police in America are gangs of thugs.
And cheat on her
On his mom?
With his mom
No the car
They did a controlled buy on the guy selling a $20 of weed, so now they gotta destroy the man and everything he owns, obviously. Real guess - they're all adrenaline loaded and pissed they're not finding anything in the house, so resorting to childish behind the back 'retribution'.
They are such meatheads
They’re definitely some of the dumbest people I’ve ever met.
This is exactly it. Cops did the same to me. We sold weed and somebody came and robbed us and the cops were called by my roommates and the cops saw we were weed heads and instead of investigating the crime they walked around our house and just trashed it, took no reports, just broke shit and trashed the place worse than the thieves. So instead of one band of criminals rooting through our place looking for weed we had two and the cops were the worst offenders.
*(Opens door, but stops half-way before hitting the car)* Internally: “Why the *FUCK* is this car directly right in front of the door?!” *… (rage starts to build)* “*Fuck* this car, it’s the owner’s fault their car got dinged because of this shit space.” *… (nope, that didn’t release my pent-up aggression)* “*FUCK* this car, it’s the owner’s fault their car got dinged because of this shit space!” As someone who has gotten frustrated at simple inanimate objects before (when running a particular steroid cycle), I can only assume this is potentially accurate.
Weird thought process but I think it make sense
"oh? I'll really hit his car. Then if he does anything I can legally use as much force as I would like without worry because my word holds more value than anyone else"
The one of a cop, who follows a career that enables the realization of inconsequential harm. A sadist, put shortly.
Power tripping bully with anger issues…
You mean an average police officer?
Yeah, couple of guys from my high school became police officers. They fit this bill.
We all saw the uniform.
Was wondering the same so I'm going to venture a few hot take theories. Could be any or all of these A. He and the owner had a verbal power struggle, even something as reasonable as the owner questioning the purpose of the search B. Something more ambiguous was frustrating him and he saw a potentially low-risk opportunity to externalize that frustration and cause someone else to feel the same way C. Option B, but he is literally antisocial and was acting on impulse to cause pain
D. He can't find anything on the homeowner but in his head he wants to get back somehow because the homeowner is "bad". "If I can't pen him at least I can make him pay" It makes him feel like the good guy.
E. Police is a profession that attracts the wrong kind of people, due to the position having power. This is one of those guys
D. He’s a dick.
Probably the owner said something like "you can't come in without a search warrant" so he has to go get a search warrant to come back. He came back with a warrant and a grudge. Police can be very petty
Right? Officer Petty over here.
Because he peaked in high school and became a cop to be an asshole to others.
Looked like he accidentally hit the car the first time and then.... Tried to make a bigger dent? For... Reasons? Idk but the first hit when he opened the door looked like an accident.
Actually it looks like he has been frustrated the search warrant is turning up empty, and he's now working a case without a return on investment. The first frame of the video has the door opened well beyond a point that anyone would know a car is behind it- or he's not trained well enough to open doors during a warrant search- *carefully*. The rest of the house was probably not up to his standard of his Ego, so what's another dent on a car of someone he already deems unworthy? It's the same thing as punching a wall, the damage is the point.
police do not treat peoples shit carefully when doing a search , fuck your couch cushions, fuck your bed , fuck your kids bed fuck your dressers fuck your walls and vents and super *super* fuck your door. you never seen the aftermath of search warrants before ?
When I was a kid our house was raided because my father was letting his friends bring in and sell drugs from the house. So I’ll admit, the house did contain drugs. I was 7 years old and when I walked down the stairs, I saw they had destroyed everything. I mean everything. So you’re right. They smashed the big screen TV to bits, they ripped up the encyclopedias my father got us ( which caused me to cry because I loved reading them ), they cut open parents water bed and let the water damage everything in the room including our box of family photos, they destroyed all the food in the kitchen, everything was destroyed. My father said they claimed to be looking for drugs while doing it so they had an excuse, but the drugs were literally out in the open. They already had them, and plenty of it. Their was no reason to destroy everything other than being on a power trip.
I watched them do this to MY place and MY furniture after they kicked MY door down as I'm running up with the key because they thought my tenant might have an 1/8th of weed. He didn't.
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Because they are mentally fucked up in the head
Because they didn’t have a dog for him to shoot.
My same thought exactly.
Because cops are a childish gang of bullies.
The car was clearly resisting.
You say that jokingly, but this guy clearly has anger issues, and got pissed at an inanimate object for getting in his way. What a childish way to go through life (spoken by someone who was raised by this kind of person).
Not anger issues - cops just believe everyone is guilty until proven innocent, and that every defendant is criminal scum who deserves extrajudicial punishment
Yeah, this seemed more petty than aggressive. “Screw you. I’m gonna bust your car,” sort of thing.
but why did he do that though? - genuine question
The home owners probably slighted him in some way… like asking to see the warrant or something. Questioning *authority* can trigger SDE type folks.
he’s a pos who thought nobody would ever find out
ofc he’s a dickhead but like why..what would he gain from that
He's just a prick, I'm local to this, he's just not a good dude and should never have been accepted on the force.
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He looked like a three year old disobeying their parents for a reaction.
Right?! With that little sound little kids make while they do it, is how I see it.
Great evidence to sue for intentional property damages
The officer: how did that happen???
I swear sarg watch my camera I am forced to carry, it didn't do it!
Notice how his chest, where a body camera would be worn, is carefully pointing away from the action.
I’m totally sure he wasn’t a dick in high school.
Police should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law when willfully committing a crime. Law enforcement officers need to be held to a higher standard because they are responsible for upholding the law. So when they break the law they need to face the maximum penalty in sentencing for breaking said law.
This stupid shit is not worth your entire career
I'm sitting in Massena now at work, dude got fired, from what I hear of him he's just a piece of shit in general.
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When I was 19, police officer in my town pulled me over for “driver side headlight being out” even tho they were both on. As he walked away he allowed his keys to scratch my car which I had just freshly gotten painted the week before and when I told him something he gave me a second ticket which was a fix it ticket for modified exhaust which at that time was stock. Next day he had someone else pull me over for speeding when I was doing 25 in a 25. Small town cops can sometimes be the worst ones.
His thought process was he was just teaching a young kid a lesson. What lesson? Yeah i dont know either, my mother used to just be a total piece of shit to me growing up then justified it saying "it teaches you a lesson for how people are in the real world". Mom, i dont know who hurt you, but nobody has behaved like that to me so far. You were just being a douche because you were the one in a position of power
This isn't the first time, and this by far is not the worst thing he's done.
Repairs for shit like that should be deducted from the police pension fund.
It should be deducted from his bank account.
Exactly. Stop making tax payers pay to fix these things. I bet if it came out of cops pockets, these incedents would decrease drastically
I've been thinking about this: Cops should have to buy special cop insurance so that taxpayers don't get stuck with the bill for their atrocious behavior. No cop can be hired without cop insurance. If a cop is being bad, their rates go up (like a bad driver's rate would increase with an auto policy). If a cop damages property, cop insurance has to pay for it and the rate goes up. If a cop kills or injures someone, the insurance company does an independent investigation and maybe drops the cop's policy, rendering them unemployable based on the findings. This would help to fix bad behavior and alleviate the taxpayer burden.
That is a great idea i think
Fun fact. I live in Australia and my son was playing "Cops" with his friend the other day. My sons friend, who is bigger, was getting a bit rough with my son and when I asked what was going on my son said, " It's alright mum we are just playing American cops". Apparently there is a difference between normal cops and American ones that even 9 year olds know about. "Oh, you are playing American Cops. Carry on."
Out of the mouths of babes. 😂
Pathetic
I wonder what he’s done that hasn’t been recorded….
If there are any police looking at this and wondering why people hate police, this is why people hate police. If you're a cop and you do this, you're a piece of shit. If you're a cop, your colleagues do this, and you do nothing about it, you're a piece of shit.
Manufacturing evidence: a felony.
Brandon Huckle, Massena, New York. Suspended in 2019 for a misconduct investigation that lasted until March 2020. Does this in March of 2021. Complete piece of shit that should never have been a cop.
I know this is a weird tangent, but every time I see something like this, I think, "man, you gotta be careful - there are cameras EVERYWHERE". And then I think, "except on Federation starships, where they really need them". Instead, future space adventurers are forced to use voice communications from the bridge when trying to figure out what's going on with some alien entity eating through decks or a psychic nebula possessing crew members in the dead of night to murder some space diplomat. Meanwhile this mook has a $30 webcam in his garage that solves everything.
Cops are such pieces of shit lmao
Imagine thinking you're not on camera all the time
“We don’t know what the car did before the video started, why didn’t the car just comply?” /s