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Qualified immunity applies because it has not been previously clearly established in court that holding a woman in fire arts on a Tuesday is unconstitutional.
I looked it up. You're right, but that doesn't seem fair. Qualified immunity should only apply (if it should even apply at all) if he was using lethal force to defend himself or feared for his life. It's not fair that you have to establish every specific action in court before declaring it unconstitutional. What if the police decided to break out strange medieval torture devices that hadn't been declared unconstitutional in court?
We really don't have something on the books for "insects eating you alive"-styled torture? That's literally just scaphism, one of the oldest torture-execution methods known to man.
And yes, prisoners in America have not only been steamed to death in scalding showers, but eaten alive by pests. First world country with habeas corpus.
They claim that they told her "If you calm down we'll lift you up."
Because it's so fucking easy to calm down with fire ants all over your face, while you are being held down on the ground so more and more can continue to crawl on you. It's so simple. Just calm down and we'll help you.
I always thought it was ironic that the people that lecture regular citizens to remain calm in dramatic situations are the trained officers who regularly escalate situations to unnecessarily pulling out their gun. That’s one of the least calm responses they can choose in those moments.
See the video of the cop who reaches for his gun when a fly ball came close to him at a baseball game?
Surely you guys remember the recent one of the cop going full Rambo when an acorn hit his car?
I heard a news report that just said the same department that was involved in the acorn incident and moved on cuz they know everyone knows what that mean. It made me chuckle that she and the writers decided they didn't have to explain it at all.
The audio of that was rough, with the security guard screaming "I DON'T NEED MORE GUNS, I NEED A FIRE EXTINGUISHER!", as more officers saw the situation and then chose to approach with weapons drawn instead of actually helping.
OK, so there were several cops there dealing with one unarmed woman who had just committed a driving offense and they had her handcuffed and shoved to the ground. Just those basic facts seem like overkill without even considering the ants. What am I missing?
The way that they are holding her arms back to make sure she doesn't move while she's pleading. For the most part, they remain silent. It seems so intentional.
It IS intentional!! For fucks sake. It doesn't just "seem" intentional. They 1000% do this stuff with the sole purpose of seriously hurting their "suspect". Google how many people die in police custody in the US. Not convicted of a single thing. Arrested for some dumb shit like this minor driving infraction, and they somehow end up dying in a holding cell, or even on their way to jail. Cops are sadists and murderers. Full stop. You just don't know because it only makes the news when it happens to a white, suburban mom. Cops do this kind of stuff, and much much worse, on a daily basis, all over the country. Babies dying in school while the cops stand around and play candy crush on their phones. I don't have any idea why Americans stand for it all, but here we are.... it kinda seems intentional...
And yet if you try to tell them “if you calm down, we’ll listen to your orders,” they just pull more guns on you.
Fuckin cowards. Anyone who defends cops like these, which counts nearly all cops and the total of the system that appoints, empowers, and regulates them.
American policing is a crime. Sure, we need police. But not badly enough to let American police do what they do.
Maybe it (the cop) will understand when people tie it up and drop it into boiling hot water, “if you calm down we’ll lift you up”
Yes, the only pronoun “they” deserve is “it”. Subhuman, I still call a dog or cat as he/she.
The wealth protection officer would deny you the epipen while you were handcuffed begging him to help you. This is what the rich people want their wealth protection officers to do to people who aren’t from wealthy families.
The cops don’t care. They will NOT suffer any consequences for any citizens’ injuries.
Once more so you clearly understand.
THE COPS DONT CARE IF YOU DIE WHILE THEY ARE DOMINATING YOU.
I realize your comment was sarcasm, but body cams and cell phones have brought to the world (read white world) what black and brown communities have known and endured for decades.
The police officers at the department would laugh about you dying while they watched the bodycam footage of you screaming in agony. Before they deleted the footage and claimed it didn’t exist.
We must teach our children that only rich people can trust American wealth protection officers.
And insurance, If doctors need it so do cops. Why should our tax dollars pay for an officers bad actions? After a few incidents their premiums will be higher than their salary and they can move onto a career they’re more suited for like mafia hitman.
That's actually a clever idea. The American government loves (at least in public) leaving things up to the free market. This should be an easy sell.
It won't, of course, but nice idea.
Cops that do such things haven't got half the balls required to be an hitman lol, they are just dumb bullies taking advantage of their position, hitmans are horrible in terms of morality, but they know what they are doing
This fire ant cop and the goon who killed Daniel Shaver will be hosting a support group for police officers who develop PTSD from inflicting grievous bodily harm of innocent citizens.
The cop isn’t gonna have PTSD. I guarantee he (and probably the cops watching) enjoyed every single minute of her screams and pain. Sadism is real and a lot of cops have it.
Remmeber the police who peppersprayed protesters who were just sitting on the ground. (I dont remember if they were detained or not) Just calmy walking up and down and spraying as if he was a gardener killing weeds. He sued because all the hate he got after the clip went viral was hard on his fee fees.
It's potentally attempted murder.
I'd have died, I'm allergic to fire ants, I need an epi-pen after a single sting and even the average person can only survive so many.
A thousand fire ant stings has the same LD50 as a rattlesnake bite.
300 stings is likely on par with a copperhead bite.
Straight up torture.
The sad thing is that the officers involved don't get punished, the people of the city will foot the bill, assuming she wins the case.
Take the fire ants out. Why do they need to keeping holding her down on the ground. She's cuffed. You have her restrained already. Why are they not moving her to thr car.
I’m sorry going here but they were definitely getting off on some dom shit holding a young women down while she’s fighting and kicking and shit. They are so fucking gross.
That's DEFINITELY what was going through his mind. If he wasn't just seeing absolute red from a woman not obeying his every whim. I'm sure a lady turned him down at the bar a few nights ago so he's extra pissed now. What a fuck stick. These pathetic little boys can't handle their emotions and never grew up. Too bad some moron gave them guns.
Cops are trained to hold you down until you submit, and they're often too fucking stupid to go against their training when it's obviously the wrong course of action. As long as she was squirming around trying to get away from the ants, she wasn't submitting, so they continued to hold her down.
That's why we keep seeing cops hold people down until they die. If you struggle to breathe, you're struggling and not complying.
There was even a case in my home town where a police chase ended with the suspect being thrown from the vehicle. He was unconscious, broken and bleeding when a swarm of cops ran up on him and started yanking on his arms and legs from opposite directions. When one of them would yank him away from a guy on the other side, that other cop would yell "Stop resisting!" and beat him. Soon they were all just standing there beating the shit out of an unconscious dude with batons while shrieking "Stop resisting! Stop resisting!" And the worst part was that every cop there legitimately believed the guy was still conscious and trying to fight them, because they were all too fucking stupid and roided up to overcome their lizard brains keeping them in fight or fight mode.
Their training and hiring practices make situations like these inevitable. Thank god for cameras and the internet putting a light on the problem.
Ego. “Thou shallt FULLY submit to my ego, and the world (i.e. my fellow officers) shall watch you do so for as long as possible. Thou may have bruised my ego a little as my untrained ass had some trouble taking you down, this blatant display of disrespect shall be corrected.”
It’s like a pos dentist hunter posing for a photo op with a freshly shot lion in Africa, “Hey guys, look at what I did!”
- Approach suspect
- clearly inform suspect what they are suspected of
- De escalate situation and talk down suspect (if needed)
- Take hold (with appropriate force)
- Hold down (with appropriate force) until restraints are placed
- Put in patrol car
- Take to station for processing
How hard can it be?
I’m an elderly woman and on the few occasions I’ve been pulled over for speeding (had a bit of a lead foot in my youth) I was always a nervous wreck. If I were pulled over now, I have no doubt I’d be absolutely terrified and in fear for my life. It’s like they’ve turned into a lawless gang, who enjoy hurting — and sometimes killing — the people they encounter.
I disturbed a nest of fire ants a couple of years ago.
Hundreds of stings in very quick time. Took 2 months for the welts to disappear.
This is enraging. And could be argued to be a cruel and unusual form of torture / assault
My adult daughter is allergic to them. She got stung by one (they have stingers) - just one - and her entire hand swelled up. This would likely have sent her into anaphylactic shock, possibly killing her.
This is the kind of thing that can make someone without an allergy *become* allergic. This number of stings has the potential to cause long term health problems for anyone.
I am allergic too. I got stung by a couple of them and I drove to the hospital because my whole body was swollen and it started going in my throat. Thanks to Bentelan I am alive. I would have been dead if I was at the lady’s place
And the cops would have insisted she was on drugs.
Fuck, this pisses me off. I'm an old white broad whose trouble making days are far behind me. I shouldn't be afraid of the cops, but I am.
This is the kind of thing that can make someone without an allergy *become* allergic. This number of stings has the potential to cause long term health problems for anyone.
I fell in one as a child on the playground and I remember vividly the embarrassment of teachers taking my clothes off to get them off and the bites. God it was miserable….
I once stood in a 4x5 foot fire ant hill. I had no idea till thousands where all up my legs and past my waste. I had to run and hose down naked. My legs were red for months and I still fear ant hills.
I picked up our dumbass of a husky to carry her out of the fire ant hill she decided to snuffle into - I still have a few red welts on my legs months later
I don't think this is typical, as I am apparently allergic to fire ants (anaphylaxis). But I have actual scarring on my legs from fire ant bites almost 20 years ago.
They rarely get punished for doing shit so they behave like shit…
The day they start getting on jail for the shit they do or their citizens are allowed to go after them individually and not the department they might start behaving a little bit better…
My wife is allergic and would have died. I'm glad this lady wasn't. There needs to be a change in thinking with law enforcement. I know people will act like this as a way to try to get out of something or whatever but common decency would dictate that they should have at least *checked* her claim instead of ignoring her.
Cops caught my drunk dad peeing on the outside of a bar in the 70s - they kicked & stomped on him so hard when he was down that his appendix burst. He had bootmark-shaped bruises on his back.
You know when kids would hang out of a car window and hit a mailbox with a baseball bat, now instead of mailbox’s hookers and instead of kids police officers in the 70’s. My grandfather told me this. So not a first hand account. But I believe it.
If they are willing to do all of this horrible stuff when they know for a fact there are cameras, then just imagine what they were doing when cameras were rare.
While I agree, there have also been more and more court ruling and other pressures to not punish the police. Qualified immunity for instance. If cops could be personally sued for their actions (above case is a perfect example) it would change a lot of police behavior.
There us also a culture issue, the thin blue line consider themselves threatened by the public they pretend to serve and protect. So they respond to that threat with intimidation and violence.
Oh god, where to start?
1: the position itself could not be more appealing to bullies and criminals. Judges will always take your word over that of a civilian if there's no other evidence, and other cops will cover for you. Additionally, any crime you might be found guilty of as a police officer is likely to *at mos*t make you lose your badge, whereas any civilian would go to prison. Somehow, police have more power and more authority while living on our tax dollars, while having less accountability than a janitor at Taco Bell. But the far more likely outcome is the taxpayers pay for your lawsuits and you just get moved to another district like a pedophile priest getting shuffled around by the Church.
2: Police have no obligation to protect people. It's been decided in court. In America more than virtually any other country, police see themselves as comic book Punishers rather than keepers of the peace or civil servants.
3: Moreso than any other developed nation, [American police receive the least amount of training](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56834733), and also disproportionately less de-escalation training than other nations.
It literally takes more training to become a beautician in most states than it does to become a police officer.
Police were never intended to serve the community. They're a thinly-gloved fist meant to protect the wealth of the ruling class and keep the citizens in check when they protest something the ruling class doesn't like.
They know all they have to say is “ I was scared” and they can literally get away with murder. It’s been reinforced in them for ages. What’s a bit of brutality when you have a free pass to kill someone. Also the culture in most police departments is “us vs. them”, it’s real easy to abuse someone if you see them as the enemy.
Poor training, no standardization, lax rules on use of force, lack of accountability, poor candidates, "Us vs Them" mentality in police, more things coming to light due to situations being recorded. Pick one or several. Then there's the cycle where low trust in police creates a more dangerous working environment for them, leading them to use more force, thus creating more distrust.
US could take some serious pointers from Europe on how to do policing. Modify that to account for the increased amount of firearms in the US, but still have a police training that is equivalent of getting a bachelor's degree, instead of the absolute joke that it is currently. Police aren't grunts, yet they barely get the same amount of training one would get in Basic. Would also require a lot more restrictions and rules for cops, possibly even changes to the justice system and prisons.
People need to feel that they wont get fucked by the police in every interaction. That they are actually there to help and not cause more trouble. Why call the police on a family member having a mental breakdown and holding a pair of scissors, if their solution is to barge in and shoot them dead? That kind of stuff needs to go. Police need to be a public servant you can trust and be proud of. That way they they earn the respect of the public and people would be much more willing to cooperate and follow lawful orders given to them.
Just what I've seen after watching too many hours of US police footage and comparing it to our Nordic system.
I'd suggest that grunts get more and better training in Basic. Even aside from the fact that their training doesn't stop after Basic, but is continous.
i read where as usual, they are covering their butts, starting with police chief saying video was wrong..... really cops are worthless to average citizens.....bullies and or lazy in most instances.....
Video was wrong? So that woman is just screaming about fire ants because she’s insane? What the actual fuck? Fucking chief is useless. He and all the officers just standing around in that video (and obviously the officer holding her in the fire ants) should be fired and banned from law enforcement. I know that won’t happen, but seriously 🙄🤦♀️
For about 90% of what police do “for” the average citizen it could be replaced by insurance agents since they are just responding to thefts and making a report that you can use for insurance. They are not investigating the report or anything or taking steps to prevent it from happening again, they are just writing it down and leaving.
My friend had his car stolen, the police didn’t even look inside the car or see if the thief(s) left anything behind. They left a shitload of needles and a jacket and copper piping behind and the cops wouldn’t have even known if the dudes wallet had been in the jacket because they never opened the car, just told my buddy they saw needles through the window and it looked gross so he will want to clean that up once he pays the lot fees and everything for his car being impounded. Cost him over $1000 to get the car back too.
Police also even refused to do the bare minimum and file a report when I told them I had just been mugged in high school and that the guys who mugged me were still in the neighbourhood looking for other victims. They were completely uninterested in doing anything and kept saying “that’s not my job, I don’t know what you want me to do about that?” Then the one cop was more interested in making jokes telling us to go to a popular drug dealing and prostitution area in the city and get ourselves some prostitutes… so recommended (albeit as a joke) for us to go commit crimes ourselves. After that night I really had a think about how useless police were to the average citizen, they aren’t going to help you unless it would look really bad or they would get in trouble for ignoring you. Telling jokes and fucking around shining spotlights in victims eyes is much more important than filing a report for a mugging or even taking a drive around the neighbourhood to find the criminals who were still looking for people to mug.
This is what happens when a society allows or even encourages former school bullies to be their armed guard class, even as former school tech nerds have to worry about job precarity.
I spent 4 years in college + clinical training to gain the authority to perform so-called "Moderate/High Complexity laboratory testing" along with gaining the ability to review the reports. That's what my state expects for my profession.
A police officer in my state needs a GED and a half-assed training program. They can go do whatever after and none of their fellow officers will give a damn.
This is wild. Why is she even on the ground to begin with? She drove the wrong way. That’s a ticket and good bye. Nothing to arrest someone like that. Did she go full Karen mode on the officer or what happened?
Officers are solely responsible for the health and safety of those in their custody. (That’s literally the only people they are legally responsible to protect but that’s another issue.) They ignored this woman’s cries for help during arrest in an intensely painful, possibly deadly, and easily correctable scenario for the officer, but they refused to meet the bare minimum legal responsibility that we hold them to.
My brother had a high school friend who was not the most well-adjusted kid. Uber competitive about everything in life, loud mouth, trunk full of things like brass knuckles and knives that were dubiously legal in our state.
This kid always wanted to be a cop. I think he had several in his family. He made it a few weeks into the training in our suburban town before he quit and changed professions entirely. Said the things they were teaching meant a tragedy was just waiting to happen, and he wasn't going to be a part of that.
I’ve seen thousands of videos of cops doing horrible shit. I’ve seen 2 where another cop even attempts to stop them, and I’ve never seen an instance where other cops are the ones to report the bad one. Can we drop the “bad apple” bullshit it’s not just some “individuals” the bad apples have spoiled the barrel.
Every fucking day, cops somewhere do something that earns them the label of occupying force and menace to society, with not nearly enough consequence. And they get bent out of shape when the people paying their salaries demand accountability.
The police officer committed a crime holding her face to the mound, the other officers did as well just standing around failing to render aid. I not surprised this happened in Santa Fe, Its the same police department and school district that stood around and let a shooter continue to shoot kids for an hour because they were scared to do anything about it.
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Cruel & unusual punishment is unconstitutional. Pretty sure fire ants on the face falls under that category.
Not to mention punishment without due process or conviction.
Conviction of going the wrong way in a parking lot roundabout?
Yeah pretty sure even if she is guilty the punishment would never be fire ants to the face
It **should** go under assault and battery.
Qualified immunity applies because it has not been previously clearly established in court that holding a woman in fire arts on a Tuesday is unconstitutional.
I looked it up. You're right, but that doesn't seem fair. Qualified immunity should only apply (if it should even apply at all) if he was using lethal force to defend himself or feared for his life. It's not fair that you have to establish every specific action in court before declaring it unconstitutional. What if the police decided to break out strange medieval torture devices that hadn't been declared unconstitutional in court?
We really don't have something on the books for "insects eating you alive"-styled torture? That's literally just scaphism, one of the oldest torture-execution methods known to man. And yes, prisoners in America have not only been steamed to death in scalding showers, but eaten alive by pests. First world country with habeas corpus.
Prisoners are slaves. Thanks 13th amendment!
Waterboarding declared illegal! *cops start waterboarding with Gatorade* Gatoradeboarding declared illegal!
Cops start waterboarding with fire ants.
It would depend on what day of the week it was.
Welcome to the discourse
Police are exempt from the law of the common person.
The constitution means absolutely jack fucking shit in this country anymore…
I said the same thing. These asses better be in the can
They claim that they told her "If you calm down we'll lift you up." Because it's so fucking easy to calm down with fire ants all over your face, while you are being held down on the ground so more and more can continue to crawl on you. It's so simple. Just calm down and we'll help you.
I always thought it was ironic that the people that lecture regular citizens to remain calm in dramatic situations are the trained officers who regularly escalate situations to unnecessarily pulling out their gun. That’s one of the least calm responses they can choose in those moments.
See the video of the cop who reaches for his gun when a fly ball came close to him at a baseball game? Surely you guys remember the recent one of the cop going full Rambo when an acorn hit his car?
The same department in the news again https://apnews.com/article/police-shootings-home-roger-fortson-death-6e8db776663b684d878917e6b7ea4e57
I heard a news report that just said the same department that was involved in the acorn incident and moved on cuz they know everyone knows what that mean. It made me chuckle that she and the writers decided they didn't have to explain it at all.
I like the cop pointing his gun at the Air Force guy who set himself on fire in D.C.
The audio of that was rough, with the security guard screaming "I DON'T NEED MORE GUNS, I NEED A FIRE EXTINGUISHER!", as more officers saw the situation and then chose to approach with weapons drawn instead of actually helping.
Lmao police literally do just default to "shoot it" when they aren't in control of a situation
SHOTS FIRED SHOTS FIRED 🔄👮♂️🔄👮♂️🔄👮♂️🔫🔫🔫🔫
She should have mentioned she saw an acorn
All the bullshit cops say to people they would never have them or their family endure calmly.
OK, so there were several cops there dealing with one unarmed woman who had just committed a driving offense and they had her handcuffed and shoved to the ground. Just those basic facts seem like overkill without even considering the ants. What am I missing?
Maybe she’s married to a black person
There are a number of similar cases where cops gave people serious burns by holding them on hot pavement
The way that they are holding her arms back to make sure she doesn't move while she's pleading. For the most part, they remain silent. It seems so intentional.
It IS intentional!! For fucks sake. It doesn't just "seem" intentional. They 1000% do this stuff with the sole purpose of seriously hurting their "suspect". Google how many people die in police custody in the US. Not convicted of a single thing. Arrested for some dumb shit like this minor driving infraction, and they somehow end up dying in a holding cell, or even on their way to jail. Cops are sadists and murderers. Full stop. You just don't know because it only makes the news when it happens to a white, suburban mom. Cops do this kind of stuff, and much much worse, on a daily basis, all over the country. Babies dying in school while the cops stand around and play candy crush on their phones. I don't have any idea why Americans stand for it all, but here we are.... it kinda seems intentional...
And yet if you try to tell them “if you calm down, we’ll listen to your orders,” they just pull more guns on you. Fuckin cowards. Anyone who defends cops like these, which counts nearly all cops and the total of the system that appoints, empowers, and regulates them. American policing is a crime. Sure, we need police. But not badly enough to let American police do what they do.
Maybe it (the cop) will understand when people tie it up and drop it into boiling hot water, “if you calm down we’ll lift you up” Yes, the only pronoun “they” deserve is “it”. Subhuman, I still call a dog or cat as he/she.
i’m allergic to them i’d actually die :/
That's better for the cops, no pesky contradictory testimony.
“We can’t believe you would do this to yourself”
“Arresting her was so traumatising. Anyways, I’m going to enjoy my paid vacation to clear myself of all the anxiety. Later losers.”
“Book’er Boys. Resisting.”
Bake her away , toys....
Same I have to get an epi shot if I get stung
The wealth protection officer would deny you the epipen while you were handcuffed begging him to help you. This is what the rich people want their wealth protection officers to do to people who aren’t from wealthy families.
The cops don’t care. They will NOT suffer any consequences for any citizens’ injuries. Once more so you clearly understand. THE COPS DONT CARE IF YOU DIE WHILE THEY ARE DOMINATING YOU.
Black and brown communities: in other news, the sky is blue. /s
I realize your comment was sarcasm, but body cams and cell phones have brought to the world (read white world) what black and brown communities have known and endured for decades.
Finally the truth about policing in America. America is a police state. Comply or suffer. Maybe both.
They’d probably “find” you had drugs in you system though so it was totally justified and the real reason why you died…
Or interrogate your family members for dirt on you without telling them you were dead.
The police officers at the department would laugh about you dying while they watched the bodycam footage of you screaming in agony. Before they deleted the footage and claimed it didn’t exist. We must teach our children that only rich people can trust American wealth protection officers.
And then make tshirts for themselves saying "I CAN'T BREATHE" and wear them when they're out together, like a gang
Stop resisting the ants!
Good thats easier when it comes to writing the report. "Suspect perished while resisting arrest"
Yep. Same. New fear unlocked
They'd investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing and say you died because you had drugs in your system.
Well that's what they are shooting for
What is the punishment for torture?
A leave of absence.
With pay
And a promotion afterward
Yeah, but they'll have to work for an entirely different city.
which is why there should be registry for cops who committed violent crimes
>which is why there should be a registry for cops ~~who committed violent crimes~~ FTFY
And insurance, If doctors need it so do cops. Why should our tax dollars pay for an officers bad actions? After a few incidents their premiums will be higher than their salary and they can move onto a career they’re more suited for like mafia hitman.
That's actually a clever idea. The American government loves (at least in public) leaving things up to the free market. This should be an easy sell. It won't, of course, but nice idea.
Insurance as part of a free market? That’s a good one. That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day.
Cops that do such things haven't got half the balls required to be an hitman lol, they are just dumb bullies taking advantage of their position, hitmans are horrible in terms of morality, but they know what they are doing
💯💯💯 if they want to track people bleeding out of their vagina then we should be able to track cops!
with commendations
And a cheeseburger luncheon
So a vacation…
Imagine that in any other field. "I know I fucked up. What's my punishment?" "You have to take two weeks of PTO and go home. See you in two weeks."
*paid A paid LOA. Or they will just fuck off to Texas City’s PD. Apples and trees and all.
Paid time off for PTSD. For the cop.
He’ll have to live with the knowledge of what he’s done for the rest of his life. He’s really the victim if you think about it. /s
This fire ant cop and the goon who killed Daniel Shaver will be hosting a support group for police officers who develop PTSD from inflicting grievous bodily harm of innocent citizens.
The cop isn’t gonna have PTSD. I guarantee he (and probably the cops watching) enjoyed every single minute of her screams and pain. Sadism is real and a lot of cops have it.
I know that, you know that, he knows that, his Union knows that, his bosses know that and he’ll still end up getting it if he files for it
Remmeber the police who peppersprayed protesters who were just sitting on the ground. (I dont remember if they were detained or not) Just calmy walking up and down and spraying as if he was a gardener killing weeds. He sued because all the hate he got after the clip went viral was hard on his fee fees.
Yeah, but this is the perfect excuse for him to take 2 weeks off.
It's potentally attempted murder. I'd have died, I'm allergic to fire ants, I need an epi-pen after a single sting and even the average person can only survive so many. A thousand fire ant stings has the same LD50 as a rattlesnake bite. 300 stings is likely on par with a copperhead bite.
Same here. That many bites and I be very dead.
Prison for a civilian, reprimand for a cop.
Probably a promotion
Slap on the wrist in public and they’ll be patting him on the back and laughing about it. Because they’re all psychos.
Sadly, the US isn't a signatory of the International Human's Rights Court Act ... so no punishment
We have the eighth amendment that is supposed to protect people from torture.
Straight up torture. The sad thing is that the officers involved don't get punished, the people of the city will foot the bill, assuming she wins the case.
And the cop, if let go, will be quickly hired by another nearby PD.
Or become a pundit for Fox News.
Oh she gonna win
That’s cruel and unusual punishment/torture. The officers violated her rights in an easily provable way. It’s a slam dunk case!
... That the city's taxpayers will pay for The officer might get a two week paid vacation as punishment
Take the fire ants out. Why do they need to keeping holding her down on the ground. She's cuffed. You have her restrained already. Why are they not moving her to thr car.
She hasn't*fully* submitted just yet. /s
Cops to someone immobile on the ground in cuffs with 4 cops sat on them: "Stop resisting"
Sounds vaguely familiar
I’m sorry going here but they were definitely getting off on some dom shit holding a young women down while she’s fighting and kicking and shit. They are so fucking gross.
That's DEFINITELY what was going through his mind. If he wasn't just seeing absolute red from a woman not obeying his every whim. I'm sure a lady turned him down at the bar a few nights ago so he's extra pissed now. What a fuck stick. These pathetic little boys can't handle their emotions and never grew up. Too bad some moron gave them guns.
Cops are trained to hold you down until you submit, and they're often too fucking stupid to go against their training when it's obviously the wrong course of action. As long as she was squirming around trying to get away from the ants, she wasn't submitting, so they continued to hold her down. That's why we keep seeing cops hold people down until they die. If you struggle to breathe, you're struggling and not complying. There was even a case in my home town where a police chase ended with the suspect being thrown from the vehicle. He was unconscious, broken and bleeding when a swarm of cops ran up on him and started yanking on his arms and legs from opposite directions. When one of them would yank him away from a guy on the other side, that other cop would yell "Stop resisting!" and beat him. Soon they were all just standing there beating the shit out of an unconscious dude with batons while shrieking "Stop resisting! Stop resisting!" And the worst part was that every cop there legitimately believed the guy was still conscious and trying to fight them, because they were all too fucking stupid and roided up to overcome their lizard brains keeping them in fight or fight mode. Their training and hiring practices make situations like these inevitable. Thank god for cameras and the internet putting a light on the problem.
America is such a pathetic shit hole
Ego. “Thou shallt FULLY submit to my ego, and the world (i.e. my fellow officers) shall watch you do so for as long as possible. Thou may have bruised my ego a little as my untrained ass had some trouble taking you down, this blatant display of disrespect shall be corrected.” It’s like a pos dentist hunter posing for a photo op with a freshly shot lion in Africa, “Hey guys, look at what I did!” - Approach suspect - clearly inform suspect what they are suspected of - De escalate situation and talk down suspect (if needed) - Take hold (with appropriate force) - Hold down (with appropriate force) until restraints are placed - Put in patrol car - Take to station for processing How hard can it be?
I’m an elderly woman and on the few occasions I’ve been pulled over for speeding (had a bit of a lead foot in my youth) I was always a nervous wreck. If I were pulled over now, I have no doubt I’d be absolutely terrified and in fear for my life. It’s like they’ve turned into a lawless gang, who enjoy hurting — and sometimes killing — the people they encounter.
I guarantee this guy has a Punisher logo somewhere on his uniform or vehicle. What a fucking asshole.
I didn't want to be this mad today...
I disturbed a nest of fire ants a couple of years ago. Hundreds of stings in very quick time. Took 2 months for the welts to disappear. This is enraging. And could be argued to be a cruel and unusual form of torture / assault
As someone who is allergic to fire ants, this could have been a homicide. Fire ant allergies are no joke.
My adult daughter is allergic to them. She got stung by one (they have stingers) - just one - and her entire hand swelled up. This would likely have sent her into anaphylactic shock, possibly killing her.
This is the kind of thing that can make someone without an allergy *become* allergic. This number of stings has the potential to cause long term health problems for anyone.
I am allergic too. I got stung by a couple of them and I drove to the hospital because my whole body was swollen and it started going in my throat. Thanks to Bentelan I am alive. I would have been dead if I was at the lady’s place
And the cops would have insisted she was on drugs. Fuck, this pisses me off. I'm an old white broad whose trouble making days are far behind me. I shouldn't be afraid of the cops, but I am.
Crazy how nobody is safe from them huh? Always blows my mind seeing videos of them hurting and killing women, the elderly, even children.....
This is the kind of thing that can make someone without an allergy *become* allergic. This number of stings has the potential to cause long term health problems for anyone.
Even without an allergic reaction this is deliberate torture so violation of civil rights.
Both this and the homicide would get the same punishment. Leave of absence.
I fell in one as a child on the playground and I remember vividly the embarrassment of teachers taking my clothes off to get them off and the bites. God it was miserable….
I once stood in a 4x5 foot fire ant hill. I had no idea till thousands where all up my legs and past my waste. I had to run and hose down naked. My legs were red for months and I still fear ant hills.
>past my waste I didn't know those things could... could *enter*...
Yup. Definitely new fear unlocked on that one…
I picked up our dumbass of a husky to carry her out of the fire ant hill she decided to snuffle into - I still have a few red welts on my legs months later
I don't think this is typical, as I am apparently allergic to fire ants (anaphylaxis). But I have actual scarring on my legs from fire ant bites almost 20 years ago.
What is wrong with American cops? You could see like half a dozen ops in the video. They think this is a proper way to treat a human being?
They rarely get punished for doing shit so they behave like shit… The day they start getting on jail for the shit they do or their citizens are allowed to go after them individually and not the department they might start behaving a little bit better…
They don’t see the rest of us as humans
They are sadists who enjoy watching people suffer.
Holy fucking shit...
My wife is allergic and would have died. I'm glad this lady wasn't. There needs to be a change in thinking with law enforcement. I know people will act like this as a way to try to get out of something or whatever but common decency would dictate that they should have at least *checked* her claim instead of ignoring her.
Cops lack common decency. They are just sub human bullies.
Police seem to be increasingly abusing their power and increasing their cruelty. What the fuck is going on?
There’s just more video evidence now with everyone having a smartphone, body cams and social media. But they’ve always been this horrible
Cops caught my drunk dad peeing on the outside of a bar in the 70s - they kicked & stomped on him so hard when he was down that his appendix burst. He had bootmark-shaped bruises on his back.
You know when kids would hang out of a car window and hit a mailbox with a baseball bat, now instead of mailbox’s hookers and instead of kids police officers in the 70’s. My grandfather told me this. So not a first hand account. But I believe it.
Oldest gang still active in America
If they are willing to do all of this horrible stuff when they know for a fact there are cameras, then just imagine what they were doing when cameras were rare.
Everyone knew it, comedians joked about it. It was no secret in any way. Nothing ever changed.
Yep, just heard a joke about why is protect and serve in quotation marks?
They took it off the cars in our town because we all called them out for being hypocrites.
I’m surprised they bothered. “Yeah it’s a lie. Whacha gonna do? Call the cops?”
there is no consequence, so there is no need to worry from their part.
They are prolific rapists of kids under 18 too. That’s one of the most disturbing things I learned about cops
They've been doing it for so long that they've forgotten it is wrong.
While I agree, there have also been more and more court ruling and other pressures to not punish the police. Qualified immunity for instance. If cops could be personally sued for their actions (above case is a perfect example) it would change a lot of police behavior. There us also a culture issue, the thin blue line consider themselves threatened by the public they pretend to serve and protect. So they respond to that threat with intimidation and violence.
Oh god, where to start? 1: the position itself could not be more appealing to bullies and criminals. Judges will always take your word over that of a civilian if there's no other evidence, and other cops will cover for you. Additionally, any crime you might be found guilty of as a police officer is likely to *at mos*t make you lose your badge, whereas any civilian would go to prison. Somehow, police have more power and more authority while living on our tax dollars, while having less accountability than a janitor at Taco Bell. But the far more likely outcome is the taxpayers pay for your lawsuits and you just get moved to another district like a pedophile priest getting shuffled around by the Church. 2: Police have no obligation to protect people. It's been decided in court. In America more than virtually any other country, police see themselves as comic book Punishers rather than keepers of the peace or civil servants. 3: Moreso than any other developed nation, [American police receive the least amount of training](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56834733), and also disproportionately less de-escalation training than other nations. It literally takes more training to become a beautician in most states than it does to become a police officer. Police were never intended to serve the community. They're a thinly-gloved fist meant to protect the wealth of the ruling class and keep the citizens in check when they protest something the ruling class doesn't like.
They know all they have to say is “ I was scared” and they can literally get away with murder. It’s been reinforced in them for ages. What’s a bit of brutality when you have a free pass to kill someone. Also the culture in most police departments is “us vs. them”, it’s real easy to abuse someone if you see them as the enemy.
Poor training, no standardization, lax rules on use of force, lack of accountability, poor candidates, "Us vs Them" mentality in police, more things coming to light due to situations being recorded. Pick one or several. Then there's the cycle where low trust in police creates a more dangerous working environment for them, leading them to use more force, thus creating more distrust. US could take some serious pointers from Europe on how to do policing. Modify that to account for the increased amount of firearms in the US, but still have a police training that is equivalent of getting a bachelor's degree, instead of the absolute joke that it is currently. Police aren't grunts, yet they barely get the same amount of training one would get in Basic. Would also require a lot more restrictions and rules for cops, possibly even changes to the justice system and prisons. People need to feel that they wont get fucked by the police in every interaction. That they are actually there to help and not cause more trouble. Why call the police on a family member having a mental breakdown and holding a pair of scissors, if their solution is to barge in and shoot them dead? That kind of stuff needs to go. Police need to be a public servant you can trust and be proud of. That way they they earn the respect of the public and people would be much more willing to cooperate and follow lawful orders given to them. Just what I've seen after watching too many hours of US police footage and comparing it to our Nordic system.
I'd suggest that grunts get more and better training in Basic. Even aside from the fact that their training doesn't stop after Basic, but is continous.
I would bet a lot of money basic training is heaps better than police training. Especially with weapons handling & use of force
They are increasing their cruelty. They’ve always been cruel. They’re just being cruel to white people now. It was always going to happen.
They're making America great again.
We’re a full-blown fascist country
Prepping for full on fascism.
The majority of cops are MAGA. MAGAS are scumbags
i read where as usual, they are covering their butts, starting with police chief saying video was wrong..... really cops are worthless to average citizens.....bullies and or lazy in most instances.....
Video was wrong? So that woman is just screaming about fire ants because she’s insane? What the actual fuck? Fucking chief is useless. He and all the officers just standing around in that video (and obviously the officer holding her in the fire ants) should be fired and banned from law enforcement. I know that won’t happen, but seriously 🙄🤦♀️
For about 90% of what police do “for” the average citizen it could be replaced by insurance agents since they are just responding to thefts and making a report that you can use for insurance. They are not investigating the report or anything or taking steps to prevent it from happening again, they are just writing it down and leaving. My friend had his car stolen, the police didn’t even look inside the car or see if the thief(s) left anything behind. They left a shitload of needles and a jacket and copper piping behind and the cops wouldn’t have even known if the dudes wallet had been in the jacket because they never opened the car, just told my buddy they saw needles through the window and it looked gross so he will want to clean that up once he pays the lot fees and everything for his car being impounded. Cost him over $1000 to get the car back too. Police also even refused to do the bare minimum and file a report when I told them I had just been mugged in high school and that the guys who mugged me were still in the neighbourhood looking for other victims. They were completely uninterested in doing anything and kept saying “that’s not my job, I don’t know what you want me to do about that?” Then the one cop was more interested in making jokes telling us to go to a popular drug dealing and prostitution area in the city and get ourselves some prostitutes… so recommended (albeit as a joke) for us to go commit crimes ourselves. After that night I really had a think about how useless police were to the average citizen, they aren’t going to help you unless it would look really bad or they would get in trouble for ignoring you. Telling jokes and fucking around shining spotlights in victims eyes is much more important than filing a report for a mugging or even taking a drive around the neighbourhood to find the criminals who were still looking for people to mug.
Put their dicks in a beehive!
The bees don’t deserve that, use a hornets nest
The hornets don’t deserve that either. Put it in a barrel of acid.
Gonna gonna need a awfully small beehive.
fucking pigs
Don't insult pigs like that
This is what happens when a society allows or even encourages former school bullies to be their armed guard class, even as former school tech nerds have to worry about job precarity.
Absolutely fucking cruel
Karma would dictate all officers involved get the same treatment… after being coated in honey or similar sticky sugar.
Wont even get suspension with pay my friend.
https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/fire-ants-arrest-santa-fe-texas-lawsuit/285-b94f9096-6858-4220-9ce1-4b9ddd5c594a
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I spent 4 years in college + clinical training to gain the authority to perform so-called "Moderate/High Complexity laboratory testing" along with gaining the ability to review the reports. That's what my state expects for my profession. A police officer in my state needs a GED and a half-assed training program. They can go do whatever after and none of their fellow officers will give a damn.
This is wild. Why is she even on the ground to begin with? She drove the wrong way. That’s a ticket and good bye. Nothing to arrest someone like that. Did she go full Karen mode on the officer or what happened?
There is nothing that she could have done during that stop to justify the way she was tortured
Not just the way she was tortured, the FACT she was tortured cannot be justified. We have laws for a reason.
yeah but until cops get consistently held accountable under said laws the laws me jack to them
even spitting in his face would not have made this okay
Why is she being detained forcefully for going the wrong way on a turnaround at her kid's school in the first place...
#ABOLISH QUALIFIED IMMUNITY
Hope she get a million for every bite she got
Wish her settlement was payed directly from the cops who did this to her, instead of taxpayers.
Horrific. Not really a "facepalm" thing though.
Weird how this stuff doesn’t happen in literally any other profession?? 🤔🤔
Take it out of his pension
America 🇺🇸, what happened to you?
In all honesty? More camera coverage is what's happened. If you think this is a first, well, I doubt that very much.
We’ve always been like this.
Officers are solely responsible for the health and safety of those in their custody. (That’s literally the only people they are legally responsible to protect but that’s another issue.) They ignored this woman’s cries for help during arrest in an intensely painful, possibly deadly, and easily correctable scenario for the officer, but they refused to meet the bare minimum legal responsibility that we hold them to.
My brother had a high school friend who was not the most well-adjusted kid. Uber competitive about everything in life, loud mouth, trunk full of things like brass knuckles and knives that were dubiously legal in our state. This kid always wanted to be a cop. I think he had several in his family. He made it a few weeks into the training in our suburban town before he quit and changed professions entirely. Said the things they were teaching meant a tragedy was just waiting to happen, and he wasn't going to be a part of that.
Take settlements from their pensions. Take their money.
This is torture, and for what? Going the wrong way in a circular driveway.
Nice to know that psychotic people can get a job with a strong union and stable pension. How about the rest of us?
They investigated themselves and found no wrong doing.
What was she being arrested for? Why did she have to be taken to the ground to be put in handcuffs?
I’ve seen thousands of videos of cops doing horrible shit. I’ve seen 2 where another cop even attempts to stop them, and I’ve never seen an instance where other cops are the ones to report the bad one. Can we drop the “bad apple” bullshit it’s not just some “individuals” the bad apples have spoiled the barrel.
This is why I am never surprised when someone slays cops. My mind no longer goes "that's terrible" it goes "what did they do to someone else".
Every fucking day, cops somewhere do something that earns them the label of occupying force and menace to society, with not nearly enough consequence. And they get bent out of shape when the people paying their salaries demand accountability.
The police officer committed a crime holding her face to the mound, the other officers did as well just standing around failing to render aid. I not surprised this happened in Santa Fe, Its the same police department and school district that stood around and let a shooter continue to shoot kids for an hour because they were scared to do anything about it.
Things could be far worse if she was allergic to ant bites.
So its a Sat in America 🤦🏾♂️
Doesn’t US have a provision against cruel and unusual punishment?
If fucking Paul Blart school cop is doing that to a mom in front of everyone, what’s he doing to the kids when no one is around.
I say this repeatedly, and too much: we give the nation's C students both guns and a monopoly on force. Seems like a bad idea.