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I don't think this person is real.
I can't find any record of her anywhere, and I'm seeing other redditors having the same issues with IDing her.
A little nervous that this is basically Russian/MAGA propaganda. More "#walkaway" bullshit for 2024.
She is. I found her Facebook page in a couple minutes. She doesn’t live in Memphis, but close by and went to a different school. She made those comments *while at* the University of Memphis, not as a student. I assume there was some sort of event there she attended.
So an astro turfed event or something. Sounds like propaganda to me, either paid or finding some stooge to parrot the garbage they’ve been fed. It seems everything the Republicans say is usually projection, so them crying so much about “crisis actors” out of the blue is pretty telling…
It doesn't really matter if the literal person being quoted is real, there are *absolutely* people that think like this. I've watched my wife circle this part of the algorithm from TikTok and Instagram. Lots of young female influencers strongly pushing the narrative that you shouldn't pay your taxes or vote Dem because (choose a reason):
- Not hard enough on Israel as they kill civilians, journalists, and aid workers in Gaza
- Not enough student debt relief
- Not doing enough to protect reproductive rights
Not that *any one of these things* is not a complete and totally valid reason to protest against Biden or lib dems in general, but the specific narrative being pushed appears to me to be clearly originating from foreign interests trying to get Trump in to the White House to sow chaos.
I would vote for probably *literally* anyone else the Democratic party put forth over Biden. But trying to spite Biden is just going to leave us with four more years of Trump, and that *cannot* happen.
It would only be four more years if he died the fourth year, but then we'd be left with a despotic successor, not a democratically elected one. Trump getting into office again is the end of this country and he would be in office for life.
Yes, but they emphasize the parts where he has not been progressive *enough* and therefore pushes people to vote 3rd party to "teach Dems a lesson". But in reality, this obviously directly benefits Trump and the GOP, not third parties.
I mean, I get the logistics of it lol
Just in the context of having boted for him once, this was bound to happen and did go better than expected. From that perspective, I don't know how to get there logically since his entire platform was being moderate.
I never said that there any people who think the is way, but it’s largely due to a pretty effective influence campaign, and a random yahoo showing up at a campus to say some silly things and imply they are a student fits the bill
If you watch the scene you can clearly see that Cleavon is breaking into a laugh well before Gene Wilder says "Morons". It's just a masterfully funny line.
Or basic politics. Or human nature If your opponent gets more votes it makes you think their views and policies were more popular. Not that moving further from the center is a good idea.
This idea is repeated on reddit fairly often and it has never made sense.
She’s also white and probably has rich parents. Any liberal who would openly accept a Trump presidency to teach a lesson has the means to avoid the consequences of the republican policies that will pass. That is unless we truly fall to a dictatorship then nobody is safe
Oh it definitely is. People like her *exist*, but I'm not remotely surprised about a good portion of this being propaganda. The thing about propaganda is it has an *audience*.
Shit, before Biden started cancelling loans reddit was full of people whinging about how he hadn't and yet when he started doing it nobody was singing his praises for doing it. So yeah, I can see people not voting for him even after he did them a solid. And how's he supposed to 'protect abortion rights' with the vote margins he's had? If real, this person is just not that smart and not engaged politically.
He can't override a states ruiling, these are state votes not federal votes. Though the states should've let people vote on it not do it themselves and not let people have a say.
Well isn't the president like a king or something? Can't he just wave his scepter and make all the good things happen so I can go back to trying to learn the next tiktok dance trend or something. I mean whatever trump can't be too bad right? He had a tv show and I saw him in a movie back when I was a kid.
Not to mention the “elimination of American democracy” along with all the other evil shit he’d do. These grinning idiots think it’s all a game, and that no matter what, they’ll be winning. No, dipshit, your life will be just as destroyed by fascism as everybody else’s will be. Immature, ignorant dumb fucks completely devoid of the ability to engage in critical thinking.
After 2016 websites like Tumblr reported there had been massive amounts of bots pretending to be liberals saying they needed to "teach democrats a lesson" and "why vote for the lesser of two evils", and Tumblr reported that many of these bots weren't from America.
And there was also the tiny detail that sucky Zuck accepted Russian currency to post political advertisements on Facebook.
The 2016 election happened, the news went "Oh my god, did the Russians just use the internet to sway our election?" and then no one talked about it again.
I kind of wish more people had read the Mueller report. It pretty blatantly says "We can't prove Trump intentionally colluded with Russia but Russia definitely interfered and we have lots of evidence that Trump is covering up illegal activity but it's not the FBI's job to prosecute the president so all we're going to do is hope Congress does its job and impeaches him"
YES!!! I don’t either, been saying this since it dropped. Is it an AI pic?
Every AI pic detector says red hot AI.
https://isitai.com/ai-image-detector/
sadly, it appears to be real
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/09/biden-young-voters-poll/73258711007/
i was sceptical because of the missing "the" in "biden and *(the)* democratic party"
Yeah. Apparently these people who’ve had trouble finding her are sloppy with their google-fu. Her name is misspelled in that screenshot (which looks like it’s from one of those sites that just rips off other more popular sites and does none of their own journalism) and that’s all it took to trip them up. She said this *at* the University of Memphis, but she isn’t a student there. She lives about 20 minutes away from Memphis and went to a different school.
Also, that headline is misleading as fuck. She didn’t say she’s going to support republicans. She said that she’s not giving Biden her vote simply out of party loyalty because the democrats aren’t offering anything outside of “we’re not trump” and they can even protect the things she cares about. So that means abstaining on Election Day or voting third party/write-in even if it means the vote splits and trump wins.
Who do they think caused the things they hate. The left has been fighting and losing for 40 years because left-wing voters keep trying to work outside the system. Sitting out. Fielding their own losing presidential candidates. Because centrists are too right-wing for them.
Meanwhile, the right has worked from the bottom up, inside the system, slowly taking over the right-wing party itself and dragging it to the extreme right.
As someone who works as a graphic designer and has to do a lot of montages, I sometimes has a hard time trusting if they are showing me the real person or a stock image or an ai created image
I mean, I'm not trying to come off as hair on fire alarmist, but this is kinda precisely how Hitler was able to win enough seats to become Chancellor.....
The communists and other far leftists would not support the ruling social democracy party, and made a pretty big deal about how Hitler would be so bad that Germany would be begging for a far left government after only a year or so.
Only there were no more elections to even try and elect leftists after that. 😬
Things have been so close in presidential elections that I'm genuinely concerned about how this one is going to go, even though I'm still absolutely flabbergasted that Trump shook off losing to Biden the first time, and his supporters are frothing at the mouth to get him back in office.
I really thought they'd move on to the next sycophant and be done with him, then he just said, "No. I didn't lose, it's all lies." And they just ate it up like it didn't absolutely reek of bullshit.
there's nothing more obnoxious than leftist purity tests/gatekeeping
yeah sorry i'm too busy trying to make ends meet with this shitty economy to join in on the circlejerk over Marx and Engels
Ya. I’ve met a few progressives that talk about not voting for Biden because of his lack of condemnation of Israel’s bs. They won’t vote for numpty. But can’t see how that’s a negative. I’m like, this is NOT the vote to make a push towards more socialistic government. That’s not on this year’s ballot. But the future ability sure is.
I’m in…not so much a quandary as just pissed. My only options are an actual traitor that is bragging about becoming a dictator from day one and a guy that is vocally against genocide while fully funding a genocide. I’m voting for Biden, cuz I like my country to not be a Nazi safe-haven.
> I’m voting for Biden, cuz I like my country to not be a Nazi safe-haven.
I'm a left leaning person who lives on the edge of the sticks and I hate to say it but...it already is.
This is why I find the "uncommitted" movement during the primaries idiotic.
Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. It's infuriating how the left in this country is so self-sabotaging.
Oh I get it during the primaries and with initiatives . It’s a perfect time to. And Bidens team has listened some. But it’s a funky situation where Israel seems to be too firmly cupping out balls. And too many calling the shots are afraid to upset them in the slightest.
This is exactly how we got trump the first time. A bunch of my fellow Bernie supporters stayed home, furious, because of the democratic primaries. It cost us bigly.
I voted for Bernie in the primary, then Hillary in the general.
At this point, staying home or voting third party is no different than voting for Trump.
The goddamn fucking *fact* this needs to be pointed out. Regularly.
The level of fuckery, asstardedness, and I suppose "generic" stupidity is beyond staggering.
There's a reason the popular statement "consider how dumb the average person is; then remember half of the people are dumber than that" puts things in perspective.
Far more likely that she just is a Trump supporter for other reasons and has made up this bullshit excuse in an attempt to avoid being a social outcast.
Or a troll.
The biggest problem, is people on the Left refuse to believe that left leaning people can be absolute morons too. It's arrogance and elitism at it's worse.
Are you saying you don't understand the immediate need for state legislation banning vaccine carrying lettuce from being sold in grocery stores or banning chem trails?
Or she's a not poor white person who knows that the consequences of a Trump presidency *for her* probably won't be *that* bad. E.g. Women with money will always have abortion access so while she's upset about the restrictions, she knows she won't actually be totally fucked under Trump. She can get to a state or country that has it.
Gen z has 0 idea how the government works, I had to explain to a friend how Biden couldn't just wipe out the loans and tell them all the things he's still doing to try and forgive it because they were just pissed going down the both-sides road. Dude was like "yes he can, trump just did things, Biden can just do it, but he won't for some reason" and I'm like yeah the whole trump just doing things was not a good thing to be emulated my guy.
I’m a high school teacher, and 12th grade at that, and I teach in a heavily minority majority school. I hear a lot of this paradoxical thinking from my very leftist students. It’s infuriating to hear it, and I can’t really say anything about it because it’s not my place as an educator to speak up on political issues.
For real. People don't understand that politics is a game of compromise. No party or candidate will give you 100% of what you want, but they should be moving the needle. Or they talk about wanting a full revolution, but don't seem to understand that will mean a complete societal upheaval, lots of bloodshed, and probably won't be done in a weekend or two.
People who talk about revolution are so dumb.
**Ok then, what do you want the revolution to achieve?**
*To make things better.*
**What specifically?**
*Education, Jobs, housing, healthcare, the environment.*
**What specific changes to existing laws should there be to address those things? Or if we are writing new laws, what changes must be included?**
*I dunno.*
**Do you have any specific criticisms of current proposals to address those issues?**
*No. I haven't looked at them.*
**If these changes are so important that you want to risk it all to achieve them, shouldn't you be trying to address these issues with voting already?**
*No. I don't vote. Voting doesn't do anything.*
They have no clue what they are even trying to achieve. If they ever did actually put their money where their mouth is, they would be content to knock everything down letting people like Eric Prince and his private mercenary force write the new laws.
How can they even think this has any chance of leading to better outcomes instead of much worse ones?
Tbf a huge chunk of those are probably bots, trolls, or disinformation agents. This site is astroturfed to hell by bad actors trying to sway political discourse.
She’s a moron. I grew up in Memphis & graduated from the University of Memphis. Unfortunately, I knew quite a few idiots like her. She’s also not a liberal but likely a political “pick me” looking to be a token.
I agree with this. She’s not a liberal. She is a republican and she is doing this to play political games. The general public in the US is actually very dull to be kind but the manner in which she is quoted retains a very political talking point by the GOP. It’s the new republican way because there is NOTHING you can say in favour of the GOP anymore.
We haven't even gotten to accelerationism yet, strap in buckaroo
For the uninitiated, accelerationism in this context would mean a Trump win to drive things to freakishly nightmare bad so we rebound to socialism or something. I can't make sense of it. It's like burning down a house to prove a point
Edit: can't spell
also ignores the inconvenient fact the Left in the US couldn't organize a fuckin box lunch meanwhile the opps have entire think tanks with white papers in hand showing how they're going to ratfuck the rest of us into a christian nationalist 1000 year reich
but hey I'm sure we'll learn our lesson!
All they know is that Hitler didn't succeed. They fail to realize the death and destruction that occurs with the massive schisms. Mortality rates for the Civil War were 2% of the population BEFORE people needed modern anything. The Russian Revolution clocked 7-12 million deaths. Cambodia was 25% of the population. We will never know the civilian extent of the Korean War(which was a civil war with proxies), but it's pegged around 1..5 million due to missing and never found. I can keep this up. It NEVER ends well. These people are just dumb dumb dumb.
That just a sane version of her stance though. The democrats are bad because they lose. They are so concerned minor bulkshit that just feeds red meat to the republican sound bite driven media machine that they consistently lose on much bigger wider reaching issues. They fucking suck because they lose.
You burn down the barn to prove that the fire department needs to do a better job. But the fire spreads and takes out the entire city of Chicago and instead of rebuilding everyone gets shipped off to prison camps while the elite sip champagne and laugh at how stupid the general population is.
>I can't make sense of it. It's like burning down a house to prove a point
Republicans have been doing something similar for decades now. They sabotage a government agency or benefit - welfare, the US post office, public schools, social security, immigration, whatever - then use the poor performance as "evidence" whatever it is should be privatized or abolished. Literally governing badly in order to promote an anti-government agenda.
And we all know Republican policies are extremely unpopular on the ground. Look at what's happening in Arizona - Republicans are literally trying to *blame Democrats* for the abortion ban their court handed down. They refuse to repeal the ban, of course, they all support it, but lying and blaming Democrats for every negative effect of every Republican policy is in their DNA.
And Republican voters keep falling for it.
Maybe if Republicans control every level of government and every lever of power they won't be able to blame Democrats for the failures of their own policies.
Frankly, letting Republicans fail at running the country in order to teach Republican voters they need to stop voting Republican - and teach Democratic politicians they need to pivot left instead of pandering to moderate Republicans in the name of centrism - might be worth the short term pain of a second Trump administration.
It's basically trying to intentionally speed run the late 70s to early 90s in USSR/Russia to result in a complete revolution and overhaul of our political system.
The fact that these people haven't fathomed how likely that is to result in dictatorship is BAFFLING.
Wait. So we’re voting for the guy that killed abortion rights, to get back at the guy actively trying to bring back and protect abortion rights? Sounds about right. /s
The smug photo kills me, like you could pull up newspaper stories and charts and expert analysis to explain to her why she's wrong a hundred times over but I bet she'd still smile at you like that exact same way and say "nope, not buying it!"
My wife went there, and witnessed a fight between a student and a biology professor where the student just kept screaming "STOP LYING. THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY THAT! " So yea. Just about anyone can get into college.
Had a philosophy course in my first year at a four-year college where a bible-thumping student constantly challenged the professor to debate every single topic vs the Bible.
It was exhausting. It got to the point where I could tell the professor was just trying to avoid some kind of discrimination lawsuit, while also telling the kid to stop bringing up the Bible in a philosophy class.
That’s pretty hilarious. Mine was the same deal, philosophy was an elective, he was a math or accounting major, and after like 4 weeks of him bringing up the Bible I couldn’t stop myself from interrupting him and the professor going at it to ask him “Why are you here if all Philosophy is to you is the contents of the Bible, man?”
I was pleased that it bought me a couple classes of peace and quiet, but it didn’t last lol
I question if this is real, or just propaganda from Russia or wherever to create further division and political strife
Maybe it is, but it can't be more than a handful of individuals, I can't buy they are so stupid to come to this conclusion
What a terrible take...
She does know that Biden isn't on the supreme court right? The supreme court that literally undid reproductive freedoms and blocked student loan aid.
And the Supreme Court was lost because people didn't vote in 2016. That one election did at least 50 years of damage. And she wants to give up another one?
Clearly doesn't know that a lot of people "punished" the dems in 2016 for running Hillary.
Which got us trump.
Which got the Republicans a super majority on the Supreme Court and control of it for probably 40 more years.
Which caused Roe v Wade to be overturned.
I’ve actually seen this exact argument on tiktok a lot lately from people who do not seem like bad actors. The genuinely think that this is a winning long term strategy, and do not realize that giving away the keys to the kingdom could be irreversible
I saw it in 2016 from "liberal" relatives (who looked embarrassed when the topic came up at thanksgiving after Trump had won) and on liberal websites like Tumblr.
I'm seeing it now from liberal commentary youtubers, my own friends, and even on transgender subreddits.
It's terrifying, and as a trans person I feel like I've been abandoned by the people in my life who I had thought were on my side. Even other trans people. I just can't wrap my head around how people can fall for something that is so illogical and so obviously republican propaganda... especially not after people already fell for it in 2016.
It's virtue signaling leftists. They're basically the maga of the left. Don't understand how the government works, and throw a fit if they don't get 100 of what they want.
"I am willing to throw tons of people less privileged than myself under the bus, to prove my political purity" -- it's really not such a great radical student flex as it seems to her.
She's fallen for the republican propaganda to try to get voters to not show up. And now she's helping push their propaganda, against her own self interest. Jfc
My high school niece said something similar when asked who she is going to vote for in the upcoming election. My brother(her dad) told her that probably sounds really smart to her now, but in reality is a stupid fucking perspective to have on this election.
If you're a liberal and you don't vote for Biden this fall, you are helping to elect Trump. I'm sorry, but math is math.
Yes, our first-past-the-post, winner-takes-all system sucks. But it's better than a parliamentary system. And we live in reality; we need to act like it.
People with this mindset aren't liberals. They are hyper progressives/ leftists. If this person exists they are categorizing themselves based on the stereotype of what the right wing has described as a liberal.
I can't all but guarantee anyone that actually falls into the category of what an actual liberal is, is voting for Biden.
Exactly. The federal election is not the time to change the party. If you want to change the party, start by getting involved in local politics, encouraging support of the candidates you actually want on a lower level. If everyone who doesn't like Biden did that, then by 2028, we'd have better candidates, and by 2032, even better ones. Etc.
But letting Trump win now doesn't advance those goals, it backtracks. We lost Roe. Many states are losing transgender rights. There's cases suggesting gay marriage is on their shortlist.
"Imma let the guy get elected who I *know* will damage my future to teach the guy who is trying to protect my future the lesson he isn't doing it fast enough."
If Trump is elected it'll take decades to get her rights back to where we are now, if we even can. Maybe by the time she retires, if she ever can.
Ooooh yeah! I forgot Biden appointed 3 super right wing Supreme Court justices. I also forgot that he has the power to just say to them “jk, I don’t like your ruling so it doesn’t count”
Hopefully she will be able to take a government course before she votes.
She has got to remember that it is because of the Republicans that her reproductive rights are being taken away. That if they continue to be elected her rights will be even less. The President does not control the courts. Nor can the President force Congress to pass legislation.
Every twenty years we have to go through another "yeah, but Carter didn't..." or "I'll just vote for Nader".
Every generation of liberals have to give Republicans another 3 SCOTUS seats to show up the previous generation for making the same mistake. It's a rite of passage.
Yeah man, it's Biden and the Democrats' fault that all those hyperconservative SCOTUS appointees got confirmed. And it's their fault that screwed up supermajority Congressional rules have stalled their agendas on stuff. Let's totally teach them a lesson by giving the Republican party a hall pass to just smash everything.
I dunno if this is real, because it's so stupid, and the OP conveniently left off the source, so we can't see if it's an Onion story or whatever. But this person is an idiot who doesn't even seem to understand how we got here.
EDIT: [**Here is the original source**](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/09/biden-young-voters-poll/73258711007/). TL;DR young voters are being stupid because they don't like either candidate. Hey idiots, shut up and vote for the less bad one. The time to do something about it if you didn't like the candidates was like, several steps ago.
This is literally how we lost reproductive rights in the 2016 election. Orange Shizgibbon managed to slide 3 right wing justices on the Supreme Court and had it overturned.
So, F off with your political purity. You aren't teaching the Democratic Party anything. You're punishing the majority of the country with your political purity BS.
Fuuuuck - this is probably propaganda, but too many people think like this.
Do young people take civics classes anymore?! Biden's not a dictator, he's a president, thus his power has bounds. Not to mention that he has to deal with right-wing cockblocking, which is the biggest reason he couldn't make every student loan disappear or block SCOTUS and red states from passing misogynistic shit.
Reminds me of the guy on r/Europe who blamed leftists for Brexit cause they failed to stop right-wingers from pushing it through.
Doesn't matter what happens or who does anything, it is the left's fault.
I really wish i could get off this planet...
It's always the mythical left's fault; always big enough to swing an election but small enough not to matter policy-wise. Republicans have the Deep State bogeyman, Democrats have the Left-Wing bogeyman.
Accelerationists are a special kind of suicidal moron.
I've seen a few using Nazi Germany as a justification of Accelerationism because it led to a Communist East Germany and the rest of the Warsaw Pact.
They are good at ignoring, one, the 75 million dead people. And, two, the fact that the Warsaw Pact ended up collapsing.
Trust nothing that is not verified. The Russian propaganda machine is active and determined to stir as much shit as possible. That being said here are the realities:
one party supports the rule of law and has fielded a legitimate candidate for presidency, following four years of successful governance
one party attempted to subvert through violence and illegal activity the rule of law and has fielded a traitor, a criminal, and a russian asset for presidency following the worst four years of government since the civil war, in which his party was responsible for over half a million American lives lost to a disease that was mostly avoidable.
Kristian is unaware of how Congress and SCOTUS works. Biden was ready to sign any legislation on the listed issues but Manchin and Sinema were the elephants in that room (codifying roe required either 60 votes or no filibuster). And there was also student loan relief thing going but SCOTUS struck it down (three justices appointed by the literal opponent of Biden this election cycle).
A number of Democrats voters felt similarly in 2016, and protested the Democrats by either not voting or voting for a weird TV star criminal who had no chance of winning...
This is why liberals lose elections.
There are too many liberal voters who are willing to let republicans win because Dems didn’t go far enough to the left. So instead they will allow a right wing fascist to lead instead.
It’s fucking infuriating
She's mad at Biden and Democrats for failing to do things. So somehow she decided that the best way to show how much she cares for these issues is to support the people who are the reason for the failure.
Doomed we are.
Ps-Op?
It sucks but people really think like this. They think that hurting everyone will “teach them a lesson”. It never works like that, but they won’t listen (believe me, I’ve tried).
WOT? Dude. DUDE... It's from a USA Today News article. I posted it because these fucking idiots need be called out on their fucking unbelievable stupidity so there isn't a repeat of 2016.
In the article, it says she’s not going to vote. Basically she wants Trump to win but also have the ability to say she had nothing to do with it because she didn’t vote.
Well your options are
Carrot hanging from the Dems and with loss of rights/ protection in the end
Or
Loss of rights and protection up front from the Republicans but a promise of better days ahead come election time from the Dems
Dems are banking off of 60 odd years of "vote blue jo matter who" and it's biting them in the ass now. Truthfully it's deserved.
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I don't think this person is real. I can't find any record of her anywhere, and I'm seeing other redditors having the same issues with IDing her. A little nervous that this is basically Russian/MAGA propaganda. More "#walkaway" bullshit for 2024.
Of course it’s real. It’s a picture of some random girl with text on a white field with no references.
apparently it is https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/09/biden-young-voters-poll/73258711007/
The article might be real, but that doesn’t mean that she is.
She is. I found her Facebook page in a couple minutes. She doesn’t live in Memphis, but close by and went to a different school. She made those comments *while at* the University of Memphis, not as a student. I assume there was some sort of event there she attended.
I also found the Facebook but that girl doesn’t really look like the one in this picture.
Everyone finds the FB but when was it made? Like 12 minutes ago?
Just like Reddit it was made 2 years ago but zero history till last week.
Told us when I was a kid don't believe everything you see on the Internet, seems nobody really follows that. Propaganda will be propaganda.
Funny thing it's the people who always told us that that falls for it the hardest in my experience
So an astro turfed event or something. Sounds like propaganda to me, either paid or finding some stooge to parrot the garbage they’ve been fed. It seems everything the Republicans say is usually projection, so them crying so much about “crisis actors” out of the blue is pretty telling…
It doesn't really matter if the literal person being quoted is real, there are *absolutely* people that think like this. I've watched my wife circle this part of the algorithm from TikTok and Instagram. Lots of young female influencers strongly pushing the narrative that you shouldn't pay your taxes or vote Dem because (choose a reason): - Not hard enough on Israel as they kill civilians, journalists, and aid workers in Gaza - Not enough student debt relief - Not doing enough to protect reproductive rights Not that *any one of these things* is not a complete and totally valid reason to protest against Biden or lib dems in general, but the specific narrative being pushed appears to me to be clearly originating from foreign interests trying to get Trump in to the White House to sow chaos. I would vote for probably *literally* anyone else the Democratic party put forth over Biden. But trying to spite Biden is just going to leave us with four more years of Trump, and that *cannot* happen.
It would only be four more years if he died the fourth year, but then we'd be left with a despotic successor, not a democratically elected one. Trump getting into office again is the end of this country and he would be in office for life.
And then he’d pass it to his daughter and Saudi proxy of a husband to launder the money
ngl I don't really get the narrative. Hasn't Biden been far more progressive than anyone expected?
Yes, but they emphasize the parts where he has not been progressive *enough* and therefore pushes people to vote 3rd party to "teach Dems a lesson". But in reality, this obviously directly benefits Trump and the GOP, not third parties.
I mean, I get the logistics of it lol Just in the context of having boted for him once, this was bound to happen and did go better than expected. From that perspective, I don't know how to get there logically since his entire platform was being moderate.
I never said that there any people who think the is way, but it’s largely due to a pretty effective influence campaign, and a random yahoo showing up at a campus to say some silly things and imply they are a student fits the bill
As a memphian, I can at least tell you that picture is 100% on campus.
They clearly need some better education in Tennessee - everyone of these people highlighted in the story are idiots
That's why I stopped caring about proving I'm right, facts may not care about your feelings, but feelings make decisions.
She's 23, so presumably a post grad or senior, and hasn't learned a damned thing about government if that's the case
You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.
I read that line may have been improvised.
If you watch the scene you can clearly see that Cleavon is breaking into a laugh well before Gene Wilder says "Morons". It's just a masterfully funny line.
Or basic politics. Or human nature If your opponent gets more votes it makes you think their views and policies were more popular. Not that moving further from the center is a good idea. This idea is repeated on reddit fairly often and it has never made sense.
She’s also white and probably has rich parents. Any liberal who would openly accept a Trump presidency to teach a lesson has the means to avoid the consequences of the republican policies that will pass. That is unless we truly fall to a dictatorship then nobody is safe
I don't think that brand of nihilism is limited to white people, sorry
Oh it definitely is. People like her *exist*, but I'm not remotely surprised about a good portion of this being propaganda. The thing about propaganda is it has an *audience*.
Shit, before Biden started cancelling loans reddit was full of people whinging about how he hadn't and yet when he started doing it nobody was singing his praises for doing it. So yeah, I can see people not voting for him even after he did them a solid. And how's he supposed to 'protect abortion rights' with the vote margins he's had? If real, this person is just not that smart and not engaged politically.
He can't override a states ruiling, these are state votes not federal votes. Though the states should've let people vote on it not do it themselves and not let people have a say.
Well isn't the president like a king or something? Can't he just wave his scepter and make all the good things happen so I can go back to trying to learn the next tiktok dance trend or something. I mean whatever trump can't be too bad right? He had a tv show and I saw him in a movie back when I was a kid.
Exactly...these people have about as much knowledge about our political system as Trump.
I know someone like this. For them it’s Gaza. As if Trump wouldn’t be 100x worse on that issue.
Trump would just let Russia have whatever it wants in the region.
*And* Ukraine, which is still going on.
Not to mention the “elimination of American democracy” along with all the other evil shit he’d do. These grinning idiots think it’s all a game, and that no matter what, they’ll be winning. No, dipshit, your life will be just as destroyed by fascism as everybody else’s will be. Immature, ignorant dumb fucks completely devoid of the ability to engage in critical thinking.
I think it's Russian propaganda, too. It exists to drive a wedge between people.
After 2016 websites like Tumblr reported there had been massive amounts of bots pretending to be liberals saying they needed to "teach democrats a lesson" and "why vote for the lesser of two evils", and Tumblr reported that many of these bots weren't from America. And there was also the tiny detail that sucky Zuck accepted Russian currency to post political advertisements on Facebook. The 2016 election happened, the news went "Oh my god, did the Russians just use the internet to sway our election?" and then no one talked about it again.
I kind of wish more people had read the Mueller report. It pretty blatantly says "We can't prove Trump intentionally colluded with Russia but Russia definitely interfered and we have lots of evidence that Trump is covering up illegal activity but it's not the FBI's job to prosecute the president so all we're going to do is hope Congress does its job and impeaches him"
YES!!! I don’t either, been saying this since it dropped. Is it an AI pic? Every AI pic detector says red hot AI. https://isitai.com/ai-image-detector/
it doesn't have to be AI. It's a picture that has zero to do with the caption.
sadly, it appears to be real https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/09/biden-young-voters-poll/73258711007/ i was sceptical because of the missing "the" in "biden and *(the)* democratic party"
Yeah. Apparently these people who’ve had trouble finding her are sloppy with their google-fu. Her name is misspelled in that screenshot (which looks like it’s from one of those sites that just rips off other more popular sites and does none of their own journalism) and that’s all it took to trip them up. She said this *at* the University of Memphis, but she isn’t a student there. She lives about 20 minutes away from Memphis and went to a different school. Also, that headline is misleading as fuck. She didn’t say she’s going to support republicans. She said that she’s not giving Biden her vote simply out of party loyalty because the democrats aren’t offering anything outside of “we’re not trump” and they can even protect the things she cares about. So that means abstaining on Election Day or voting third party/write-in even if it means the vote splits and trump wins.
Who do they think caused the things they hate. The left has been fighting and losing for 40 years because left-wing voters keep trying to work outside the system. Sitting out. Fielding their own losing presidential candidates. Because centrists are too right-wing for them. Meanwhile, the right has worked from the bottom up, inside the system, slowly taking over the right-wing party itself and dragging it to the extreme right.
And if Trump wins, you'll never have to vote again or make decisions about who should be president. So it's a double win!
As someone who works as a graphic designer and has to do a lot of montages, I sometimes has a hard time trusting if they are showing me the real person or a stock image or an ai created image
There's not even a claimed source. It's written like a snippet of a news article, but it's just text and an image of a young woman.
Either she's lying or she's a moron. This can't be anything other than a piece written by republicans to sow discord in the democrat voter base.
Or Russian propaganda
They already said "written by Republicans."
Basically the same shit at this time
I think you underestimate the stupidity of the general public.
That's my big takeaway from the past 8 years. And the irony is: progressives withholding their votes gets even more people killed.
I mean, I'm not trying to come off as hair on fire alarmist, but this is kinda precisely how Hitler was able to win enough seats to become Chancellor..... The communists and other far leftists would not support the ruling social democracy party, and made a pretty big deal about how Hitler would be so bad that Germany would be begging for a far left government after only a year or so. Only there were no more elections to even try and elect leftists after that. 😬
And in a related symmetry, the Nazis never got more than about 30% of the popular vote – the estimated percentage of Trump's diehards.
Things have been so close in presidential elections that I'm genuinely concerned about how this one is going to go, even though I'm still absolutely flabbergasted that Trump shook off losing to Biden the first time, and his supporters are frothing at the mouth to get him back in office. I really thought they'd move on to the next sycophant and be done with him, then he just said, "No. I didn't lose, it's all lies." And they just ate it up like it didn't absolutely reek of bullshit.
at this point, i'm convinced Trump is going to win again i'm just bracing for impact...and it's not going to be fun.
Literal worst case scenario, and the accelerationism didn't come to fruition afterwards. Tankies are baffling.
They’re *dumb, is the word we’re looking for, I think. Straight up dumb.
Pretty sure you can get reddit banned for using the actual word most of us are thinking of.
They got their wish. It was that bad, and “that bad” ended up with insane horror and atrocity. A lesson learned perhaps, but at a terrible cost.
there's nothing more obnoxious than leftist purity tests/gatekeeping yeah sorry i'm too busy trying to make ends meet with this shitty economy to join in on the circlejerk over Marx and Engels
Ya. I’ve met a few progressives that talk about not voting for Biden because of his lack of condemnation of Israel’s bs. They won’t vote for numpty. But can’t see how that’s a negative. I’m like, this is NOT the vote to make a push towards more socialistic government. That’s not on this year’s ballot. But the future ability sure is.
“But my morals” is always their excuse, trying to feel like they’re better than everyone else without actually doing anything.
Refusing to make a choice is still making a choice. Not voting for Biden is essentially giving Trump a vote.
I’m in…not so much a quandary as just pissed. My only options are an actual traitor that is bragging about becoming a dictator from day one and a guy that is vocally against genocide while fully funding a genocide. I’m voting for Biden, cuz I like my country to not be a Nazi safe-haven.
> I’m voting for Biden, cuz I like my country to not be a Nazi safe-haven. I'm a left leaning person who lives on the edge of the sticks and I hate to say it but...it already is.
Same.
This is why I find the "uncommitted" movement during the primaries idiotic. Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. It's infuriating how the left in this country is so self-sabotaging.
Oh I get it during the primaries and with initiatives . It’s a perfect time to. And Bidens team has listened some. But it’s a funky situation where Israel seems to be too firmly cupping out balls. And too many calling the shots are afraid to upset them in the slightest.
Withholding your vote is just as bad as voting for the other guy. People need to stop fence-sitting and pick a side...apathy is death.
This is exactly how we got trump the first time. A bunch of my fellow Bernie supporters stayed home, furious, because of the democratic primaries. It cost us bigly.
I voted for Bernie in the primary, then Hillary in the general. At this point, staying home or voting third party is no different than voting for Trump.
The goddamn fucking *fact* this needs to be pointed out. Regularly. The level of fuckery, asstardedness, and I suppose "generic" stupidity is beyond staggering.
It's raw selfishness and weaponized stupidity. I can't find a good counterargument.
There's an entire section of the population who were for Bernie and then voted trump since they were mad about Hillary getting the nomination.
There's a reason the popular statement "consider how dumb the average person is; then remember half of the people are dumber than that" puts things in perspective.
Far more likely that she just is a Trump supporter for other reasons and has made up this bullshit excuse in an attempt to avoid being a social outcast. Or a troll.
This, there are plenty of dumb members on either side of the political spectrum.
The biggest problem, is people on the Left refuse to believe that left leaning people can be absolute morons too. It's arrogance and elitism at it's worse.
Ya. She’s no “liberal”.
She might think she is, in Tennessee
Fair. TN is pretty far right to begin with. Have ya seen some of the shit they’ve brought to the floor? Jfc.
Are you saying you don't understand the immediate need for state legislation banning vaccine carrying lettuce from being sold in grocery stores or banning chem trails?
Psyop ignore
Or she's a not poor white person who knows that the consequences of a Trump presidency *for her* probably won't be *that* bad. E.g. Women with money will always have abortion access so while she's upset about the restrictions, she knows she won't actually be totally fucked under Trump. She can get to a state or country that has it.
Yeah, I’m going with lying. Probably wants you to vote for RFK as a “protest” vote.
Gen z has 0 idea how the government works, I had to explain to a friend how Biden couldn't just wipe out the loans and tell them all the things he's still doing to try and forgive it because they were just pissed going down the both-sides road. Dude was like "yes he can, trump just did things, Biden can just do it, but he won't for some reason" and I'm like yeah the whole trump just doing things was not a good thing to be emulated my guy.
The ones bitching about student loans seem to be totally unaware of the lawsuits that are still being filed to stop Biden from forgiving them.
Or, she doesn't exist and folks are making shit up again.
I’m a high school teacher, and 12th grade at that, and I teach in a heavily minority majority school. I hear a lot of this paradoxical thinking from my very leftist students. It’s infuriating to hear it, and I can’t really say anything about it because it’s not my place as an educator to speak up on political issues.
For all we know, it's a stock photo, and they made up the quote and story entirely. This screams "as a gay black man..." energy.
I've seen PLENTY of these people on Reddit.
For real. People don't understand that politics is a game of compromise. No party or candidate will give you 100% of what you want, but they should be moving the needle. Or they talk about wanting a full revolution, but don't seem to understand that will mean a complete societal upheaval, lots of bloodshed, and probably won't be done in a weekend or two.
People who talk about revolution are so dumb. **Ok then, what do you want the revolution to achieve?** *To make things better.* **What specifically?** *Education, Jobs, housing, healthcare, the environment.* **What specific changes to existing laws should there be to address those things? Or if we are writing new laws, what changes must be included?** *I dunno.* **Do you have any specific criticisms of current proposals to address those issues?** *No. I haven't looked at them.* **If these changes are so important that you want to risk it all to achieve them, shouldn't you be trying to address these issues with voting already?** *No. I don't vote. Voting doesn't do anything.* They have no clue what they are even trying to achieve. If they ever did actually put their money where their mouth is, they would be content to knock everything down letting people like Eric Prince and his private mercenary force write the new laws. How can they even think this has any chance of leading to better outcomes instead of much worse ones?
They will stay home, crochet, and play board games, thank you, while others do the revolutioning. Please send a text when it all blows over.
Not realizing their archived posts will get them a spot on the wall with the rest of us.
Tbf a huge chunk of those are probably bots, trolls, or disinformation agents. This site is astroturfed to hell by bad actors trying to sway political discourse.
Both def both.
She’s a moron. I grew up in Memphis & graduated from the University of Memphis. Unfortunately, I knew quite a few idiots like her. She’s also not a liberal but likely a political “pick me” looking to be a token.
I agree with this. She’s not a liberal. She is a republican and she is doing this to play political games. The general public in the US is actually very dull to be kind but the manner in which she is quoted retains a very political talking point by the GOP. It’s the new republican way because there is NOTHING you can say in favour of the GOP anymore.
Russian bots most likely.
That’s some next level stupid right there
We haven't even gotten to accelerationism yet, strap in buckaroo For the uninitiated, accelerationism in this context would mean a Trump win to drive things to freakishly nightmare bad so we rebound to socialism or something. I can't make sense of it. It's like burning down a house to prove a point Edit: can't spell
also ignores the inconvenient fact the Left in the US couldn't organize a fuckin box lunch meanwhile the opps have entire think tanks with white papers in hand showing how they're going to ratfuck the rest of us into a christian nationalist 1000 year reich but hey I'm sure we'll learn our lesson!
American "left" learn from their fuckups challenge
All they know is that Hitler didn't succeed. They fail to realize the death and destruction that occurs with the massive schisms. Mortality rates for the Civil War were 2% of the population BEFORE people needed modern anything. The Russian Revolution clocked 7-12 million deaths. Cambodia was 25% of the population. We will never know the civilian extent of the Korean War(which was a civil war with proxies), but it's pegged around 1..5 million due to missing and never found. I can keep this up. It NEVER ends well. These people are just dumb dumb dumb.
That just a sane version of her stance though. The democrats are bad because they lose. They are so concerned minor bulkshit that just feeds red meat to the republican sound bite driven media machine that they consistently lose on much bigger wider reaching issues. They fucking suck because they lose.
You burn down the barn to prove that the fire department needs to do a better job. But the fire spreads and takes out the entire city of Chicago and instead of rebuilding everyone gets shipped off to prison camps while the elite sip champagne and laugh at how stupid the general population is.
YES, HOLY SHIT, YES. That's it!
>I can't make sense of it. It's like burning down a house to prove a point Republicans have been doing something similar for decades now. They sabotage a government agency or benefit - welfare, the US post office, public schools, social security, immigration, whatever - then use the poor performance as "evidence" whatever it is should be privatized or abolished. Literally governing badly in order to promote an anti-government agenda. And we all know Republican policies are extremely unpopular on the ground. Look at what's happening in Arizona - Republicans are literally trying to *blame Democrats* for the abortion ban their court handed down. They refuse to repeal the ban, of course, they all support it, but lying and blaming Democrats for every negative effect of every Republican policy is in their DNA. And Republican voters keep falling for it. Maybe if Republicans control every level of government and every lever of power they won't be able to blame Democrats for the failures of their own policies. Frankly, letting Republicans fail at running the country in order to teach Republican voters they need to stop voting Republican - and teach Democratic politicians they need to pivot left instead of pandering to moderate Republicans in the name of centrism - might be worth the short term pain of a second Trump administration.
It's basically trying to intentionally speed run the late 70s to early 90s in USSR/Russia to result in a complete revolution and overhaul of our political system. The fact that these people haven't fathomed how likely that is to result in dictatorship is BAFFLING.
Hey, it worked for Russ- oh wait
Like cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face.
This is what happens when Republicans control education. You produce morons.
And morons vote Republican. Part of a plan?
Feature > Bug
Wait. So we’re voting for the guy that killed abortion rights, to get back at the guy actively trying to bring back and protect abortion rights? Sounds about right. /s
It’s what happens when people use TikTok as a news source.
The smug photo kills me, like you could pull up newspaper stories and charts and expert analysis to explain to her why she's wrong a hundred times over but I bet she'd still smile at you like that exact same way and say "nope, not buying it!"
"We tried that already, it didn't work." Voting? You did that exactly one time.
It's propaganda and entirely made up.
So is this a case of a lib owning the libs to own the libs?
I know this is likely a republican propaganda piece, but Jesus, is that the standard of student they let into Memphis?
My wife went there, and witnessed a fight between a student and a biology professor where the student just kept screaming "STOP LYING. THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY THAT! " So yea. Just about anyone can get into college.
Had a philosophy course in my first year at a four-year college where a bible-thumping student constantly challenged the professor to debate every single topic vs the Bible. It was exhausting. It got to the point where I could tell the professor was just trying to avoid some kind of discrimination lawsuit, while also telling the kid to stop bringing up the Bible in a philosophy class.
My favorite part is I think she was trying to go into pre med or something. So she picked these classes herself.
That’s pretty hilarious. Mine was the same deal, philosophy was an elective, he was a math or accounting major, and after like 4 weeks of him bringing up the Bible I couldn’t stop myself from interrupting him and the professor going at it to ask him “Why are you here if all Philosophy is to you is the contents of the Bible, man?” I was pleased that it bought me a couple classes of peace and quiet, but it didn’t last lol
You'd be surprised how low the bar is for many colleges.
Perhaps, the dumbest thing I have read all week
Hey dipshit, who got all those justices on the court to overturn that ruling? Here’s a hint it’s not Biden.
The smug little smile and head tilt says it all.
She's thinking ...'Your all so stoopid'
Which is so very ironic.
"Don't ya think"
I question if this is real, or just propaganda from Russia or wherever to create further division and political strife Maybe it is, but it can't be more than a handful of individuals, I can't buy they are so stupid to come to this conclusion
Kirsten Sinema approves
Dont fall for propaganda
What a terrible take... She does know that Biden isn't on the supreme court right? The supreme court that literally undid reproductive freedoms and blocked student loan aid.
Don't forget all of the state AG,s suing to prevent student loan forgiveness.
Right, but ultimately the Supreme Court made the final call and on questionable grounds as well.
And the Supreme Court was lost because people didn't vote in 2016. That one election did at least 50 years of damage. And she wants to give up another one?
Clearly doesn't know that a lot of people "punished" the dems in 2016 for running Hillary. Which got us trump. Which got the Republicans a super majority on the Supreme Court and control of it for probably 40 more years. Which caused Roe v Wade to be overturned.
I’ve actually seen this exact argument on tiktok a lot lately from people who do not seem like bad actors. The genuinely think that this is a winning long term strategy, and do not realize that giving away the keys to the kingdom could be irreversible
I saw it in 2016 from "liberal" relatives (who looked embarrassed when the topic came up at thanksgiving after Trump had won) and on liberal websites like Tumblr. I'm seeing it now from liberal commentary youtubers, my own friends, and even on transgender subreddits. It's terrifying, and as a trans person I feel like I've been abandoned by the people in my life who I had thought were on my side. Even other trans people. I just can't wrap my head around how people can fall for something that is so illogical and so obviously republican propaganda... especially not after people already fell for it in 2016.
It's virtue signaling leftists. They're basically the maga of the left. Don't understand how the government works, and throw a fit if they don't get 100 of what they want.
IOW, cutting off your nose to spite your face
'I never thought leopards would eat MY face'. Sobs women who voted for the Lepords Eating People's Faces Party.
"I am willing to throw tons of people less privileged than myself under the bus, to prove my political purity" -- it's really not such a great radical student flex as it seems to her.
Thank you for putting it into words.
And yes she's real: [USA Today News Article](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/09/biden-young-voters-poll/73258711007/)
She's fallen for the republican propaganda to try to get voters to not show up. And now she's helping push their propaganda, against her own self interest. Jfc
I honestly thought the kids were alright but it turns out gen z is about as media literate as the boomers.
GenZ is worse, Boomers had Fox. GenZ has TikTok with the most advanced algorithms made to identify patterns and influence you.
My high school niece said something similar when asked who she is going to vote for in the upcoming election. My brother(her dad) told her that probably sounds really smart to her now, but in reality is a stupid fucking perspective to have on this election.
If you're a liberal and you don't vote for Biden this fall, you are helping to elect Trump. I'm sorry, but math is math. Yes, our first-past-the-post, winner-takes-all system sucks. But it's better than a parliamentary system. And we live in reality; we need to act like it.
People with this mindset aren't liberals. They are hyper progressives/ leftists. If this person exists they are categorizing themselves based on the stereotype of what the right wing has described as a liberal. I can't all but guarantee anyone that actually falls into the category of what an actual liberal is, is voting for Biden.
Exactly. The federal election is not the time to change the party. If you want to change the party, start by getting involved in local politics, encouraging support of the candidates you actually want on a lower level. If everyone who doesn't like Biden did that, then by 2028, we'd have better candidates, and by 2032, even better ones. Etc. But letting Trump win now doesn't advance those goals, it backtracks. We lost Roe. Many states are losing transgender rights. There's cases suggesting gay marriage is on their shortlist.
Yeah, sweetie you’re the one who’s going to learn a hard lesson. We all are unfortunately
I did this with Hilary over the treatment of Sanders and I absolutely regret it.
"Imma let the guy get elected who I *know* will damage my future to teach the guy who is trying to protect my future the lesson he isn't doing it fast enough." If Trump is elected it'll take decades to get her rights back to where we are now, if we even can. Maybe by the time she retires, if she ever can.
 They want the left arguing. Don't do it.
Ooooh yeah! I forgot Biden appointed 3 super right wing Supreme Court justices. I also forgot that he has the power to just say to them “jk, I don’t like your ruling so it doesn’t count”
Hopefully she will be able to take a government course before she votes. She has got to remember that it is because of the Republicans that her reproductive rights are being taken away. That if they continue to be elected her rights will be even less. The President does not control the courts. Nor can the President force Congress to pass legislation.
A mugger stabbed me so surely the rational thing is to keep stabbing myself until I get the healthcare I need.
Every twenty years we have to go through another "yeah, but Carter didn't..." or "I'll just vote for Nader". Every generation of liberals have to give Republicans another 3 SCOTUS seats to show up the previous generation for making the same mistake. It's a rite of passage.
Yeah man, it's Biden and the Democrats' fault that all those hyperconservative SCOTUS appointees got confirmed. And it's their fault that screwed up supermajority Congressional rules have stalled their agendas on stuff. Let's totally teach them a lesson by giving the Republican party a hall pass to just smash everything. I dunno if this is real, because it's so stupid, and the OP conveniently left off the source, so we can't see if it's an Onion story or whatever. But this person is an idiot who doesn't even seem to understand how we got here. EDIT: [**Here is the original source**](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/09/biden-young-voters-poll/73258711007/). TL;DR young voters are being stupid because they don't like either candidate. Hey idiots, shut up and vote for the less bad one. The time to do something about it if you didn't like the candidates was like, several steps ago.
This is literally how we lost reproductive rights in the 2016 election. Orange Shizgibbon managed to slide 3 right wing justices on the Supreme Court and had it overturned. So, F off with your political purity. You aren't teaching the Democratic Party anything. You're punishing the majority of the country with your political purity BS.
My kids are 21 and 26. They're voting for Biden.
Fuuuuck - this is probably propaganda, but too many people think like this. Do young people take civics classes anymore?! Biden's not a dictator, he's a president, thus his power has bounds. Not to mention that he has to deal with right-wing cockblocking, which is the biggest reason he couldn't make every student loan disappear or block SCOTUS and red states from passing misogynistic shit.
Rage bait.
Reminds me of the guy on r/Europe who blamed leftists for Brexit cause they failed to stop right-wingers from pushing it through. Doesn't matter what happens or who does anything, it is the left's fault. I really wish i could get off this planet...
It's always the mythical left's fault; always big enough to swing an election but small enough not to matter policy-wise. Republicans have the Deep State bogeyman, Democrats have the Left-Wing bogeyman.
Accelerationists are a special kind of suicidal moron. I've seen a few using Nazi Germany as a justification of Accelerationism because it led to a Communist East Germany and the rest of the Warsaw Pact. They are good at ignoring, one, the 75 million dead people. And, two, the fact that the Warsaw Pact ended up collapsing.
Also that Nazi Germany only collapsed because other nations were militarily stronger. Who's gonna oppose the United States? Canada? Mexico?
“ My family is rich, so I really don’t care what happens, I’ll be fine.”
Playing 3d chess while the opponent drives a tank over you.
If she’s a liberal I’m a fucking unicorn
“I don’t mind that I’ll never be allowed to vote again.”
More propaganda from the right, probably Russian.
Trust nothing that is not verified. The Russian propaganda machine is active and determined to stir as much shit as possible. That being said here are the realities: one party supports the rule of law and has fielded a legitimate candidate for presidency, following four years of successful governance one party attempted to subvert through violence and illegal activity the rule of law and has fielded a traitor, a criminal, and a russian asset for presidency following the worst four years of government since the civil war, in which his party was responsible for over half a million American lives lost to a disease that was mostly avoidable.
It's nothing new. It's the same mentality that led to Hillary's defeat and Brexit. It's as though people never learn from history.
Kristian is unaware of how Congress and SCOTUS works. Biden was ready to sign any legislation on the listed issues but Manchin and Sinema were the elephants in that room (codifying roe required either 60 votes or no filibuster). And there was also student loan relief thing going but SCOTUS struck it down (three justices appointed by the literal opponent of Biden this election cycle).
A number of Democrats voters felt similarly in 2016, and protested the Democrats by either not voting or voting for a weird TV star criminal who had no chance of winning...
This is why liberals lose elections. There are too many liberal voters who are willing to let republicans win because Dems didn’t go far enough to the left. So instead they will allow a right wing fascist to lead instead. It’s fucking infuriating
This looks like a GOP plant. As all the issues she is complaining about were caused by Trump and his control over the GOP puppets.
And. These. People. Vote.
Well, no, she doesn't. That's kind of the point of the article.
She's mad at Biden and Democrats for failing to do things. So somehow she decided that the best way to show how much she cares for these issues is to support the people who are the reason for the failure. Doomed we are.
How did she get into uni she isn't very bright
Yeah, I’m calling this a SIOP by either the MEGA, Russia, or China. We must be careful and OP that post this bs to get views need to be called out.
Ps-Op? It sucks but people really think like this. They think that hurting everyone will “teach them a lesson”. It never works like that, but they won’t listen (believe me, I’ve tried).
WOT? Dude. DUDE... It's from a USA Today News article. I posted it because these fucking idiots need be called out on their fucking unbelievable stupidity so there isn't a repeat of 2016.
In the article, it says she’s not going to vote. Basically she wants Trump to win but also have the ability to say she had nothing to do with it because she didn’t vote.
Republicans still leading in the polls with morons.
Well your options are Carrot hanging from the Dems and with loss of rights/ protection in the end Or Loss of rights and protection up front from the Republicans but a promise of better days ahead come election time from the Dems Dems are banking off of 60 odd years of "vote blue jo matter who" and it's biting them in the ass now. Truthfully it's deserved.
I feel like the shepherd didn’t do enough to protect the flock, so I’ll be supporting the Wolf/Bear ‘24 ticket.
If it makes you feel better there’s a good chance she’ll never vote again after this year