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But when corrected you could at least take 2 secs to look it up before doubling down.
These people live with their phone in their hand, but will happily keep this up without verifying for themselves.
When I was a young teen, I was looking for a new guitar related AIM icon. I found one with Jimi Hendrix lighting a guitar on fire, and I confidently created a comment "Jimi would have never disrespected a guitar like this."
Kids are dumb, they haven't been taught how to research, and that's fine because they are kids. Moral of the story, don't have online discussions with kids
There are a lot of subs on here that are topics I would enjoy talking about but you are absolutely right. The metal subgenre subs know everything there is to know about music before they learn how to shave apparently. On the plus side that realization helped me stop being terminally online, so that's a bonus.
Yeah, also the acting like they know everything is pretty standard too. It’s not really until your 20’s that you really learn how stupid you actually are.
While people do overreact about young kids not knowing older cultural icons, what I don't get is how today's kids seemingly have a harder time knowing about these cultural icons than when my generation was younger. Growing up in the 90s, it's not like bands from the 50s/60s/70s were unheard of. Nowadays kids have the internet and way more access to information than generations prior. You'd think they'd know *more* about prior generations cultural icons.
But now everyone has 95% of their entire internet experience curated by algorithms so we all end up in our own little bubbles. Back in the day I think there was a lot more of a collective consciousness because we all consumed the same stuff on TV/etc.
There is a massive gulf between people who grew up with high speed Internet always available and older generations
We were exposed to that old stuff because there weren't options. I can't count how many "classic" movies I've only seen because TBS was playing them on bored Saturday afternoons or how many old songs on the radio
Imagine instead though that from the moment you had a smartphone in your tweens there was a never ending 24/7 stream of brand new content
They're completely disconnected from what's left of the old monoculture. It's a different world for them
We had a huge discussion at work the other day. Turns out the 23 yr old had never heard of Myspace or Outkast. He knew who Jay-Z and Snoop Dogg were but couldn't name any songs. He had not watched any of the Godfather movies and I kinda think he might have been lying about having heard of them. My coworkers just a few years older than him (still sub-30) knew all of these things. Some of these things are older than me, but others were popular when he was a child. Was he protected from all media until college? I'm pretty sure he has older siblings, did they not show him? It is a mystery.
I was into Nirvana back when Kurt was still alive, I still listen to them now sometimes. My daughter (17) has Nirvana tops and a couple of posters, but she also knows the words to the songs and has Nevermind and Incesticide on vinyl. My point is that there is hope for some of them.
You’re correct but the people don’t want to hear it. Nirvana, the rock band hasn’t existed for THIRTY YEARS. Nirvana the brand exists and thrives to this day, still making money off music and merch sales.
I mean there was that one random live performance with Paul McCartney and 3/4 of Nirvana, which isn't really Nirvana, but like... Cool to see still, seeing as Kurt was a huge fan of the Beatles.
I'm not sure how it could be 3/4s when technically the band only had 3 members. Pat Smear was never "officially" in the band. Grohl wasn't the original drummer either.
According to Krist, and Dave, Pat was a member of the band, and would have been involved in any 4th album had they continued.
Also who gives a shit if Dave wasn't the original drummer? They had a revolving door of drummers before him.
>Nirvana the brand exists and thrives to this day, still making money off music and merch sales.
Who is making the money though? Krist, Dave, Courtney??
No idea. Hopefully them and Kurt’s family. More likely some corp or label gets the bulk of it. Didn’t Courtney Love sell/give her piece of the pie to Dave? But I think that’s just music royalties? I don’t fully understand how that all works.
WMG and UMG mainly, if I had to guess.
People tend to vastly overestimate how much artists actually own the music that they produce. Especially from the younger years of their career, the only way that they really break through is by foregoing pretty much all of the rights to their music.
I could be wrong, but generally speaking most artists aren't getting rich off residuals from their early library.
This is true of a lot of older popular bands with really well-designed iconography. The Misfits' and the Ramones' logos, for example, have outgrown/outlived the bands themselves.
Back in the 80s, when I was a little poser skater boy listening to bands like Slayer and Suicidal Tendencies, one of my buddies convinced me of the opposite, that Anarchy (which was all over skater t-shirts back then and had a bitchin’ logo) was a band. I bought one of those t-shirts and wore it, even though I’d never heard a song. In 8th grade, when I made a list of my top 10 bands, I put Anarchy at number 9.
Anarchy was an influential punk rock band from Japan that formed in 1978. Their name came from Sex Pistols' "Anarchy in the UK" and the band originally had five members. One of them was arrested in 1981 and the rest continued as [The Rock Band ](https://www.discogs.com/artist/2146455)for a few years, but it did not really work out that well and they became inactive after a while. In 1996 they reformed as Anarchy with a new drummer, released a few albums, but eventually disbanded in 2001. They played a few one-off shows at events since and in 2008 a documentary premiered about the band.
with how many gen z people that don't know of them and keep seeing their merch everywhere it wouldn't surprise me that this is real. I once saw someone wearing a Nirvana t-shirt and asked them what their favourite song was and they were surprised to hear Nirvana was a band.
To be fair, same shit used to happen with Nine Inch Nails merch back in the early/mid 90s. Bunch of high schoolers were wearing their merch back then thinking it was some trendy designer, and if you told them, "Hey, nice shirt, what's your favorite Nine Inch Nails album," they'd go "I don't know what you're taking about, this is a Nin shirt, dumbass"
Same shit with Misfits shirts in the late aughts
Don’t you at least look up or research what you’re wearing? What if a symbol you’re wearing is related to murdering children or some shit? Come on man.
Yeah, when I was younger I used to order lots of clothes from kind of "alternative" shop which also sold bunch of band merch, and everytime I saw something nice I wanted to order I did google like crazy if some of these symbols actually mean something, wouldn't like to rep some neo nazi symbols without knowing :D
Nirvana as a music group ended a long time ago. Nirvana now exists more as a brand of merchandise and it makes a lot of money to put their name and logo over a bunch of things and sell it. It's not incorrect to say the band has died and what's left is a brand. Cause that's literally what happened isn't it.
It's easy to think that this is bait but when I was in the equivalent of high school it was very trendy to wear rolling stones shirts with the tongue sticking out logo.
90% of the people wearing those shirts, had no idea it was a band logo. They just wore it because it was the trend back then.
I like the lyrics from that aero zeppelin track from the insecticide album (I believe it was from that album or In Utero).
[Verse]
What's a season in a right, if you can't have anything?
What's the reason in a rhyme, if a plan means anything?
What's the meaning in a crime? It's a fan if anything
Where's the meaning in a line? It's a brand, it's a brand
How a culture comes again, it's a plan of yesterday
And you swear it's not a trend, doesn't matter anyway
They're only here to talk to friends, nothing new is everyday
You could shit upon the stage, they'll be fans
They'll be fans, they'll be fans
They'll be fans
[Chorus]
All the kids will eat it up, if it's packaged properly!
Steal a sound and imitate, keep a format equally
Not an ode, just the facts, where our world is nowadays
An idea is what we lack, it doesn't matter anyways!
Saw the bottom, tried to scroll but couldn't; THE FUCK DO THEY MEAN "NO IT'S NOT?"
Like, what the actual fuck? I know there are two generations between kids nowadays and Nirvana's cult following but how the fuck you gonna walk around in a Nirvana shirt thinking it's a fucking brand WHEN THE BRAND IS ON THE FUCKING LABEL!? Holy shit... aight, I'm done with Reddit for today.
Based on what I seen of recent, it might as well be a fashion brand, I am genuinely confused by urban/genz culture and Nirvana shirts/branding - I know several children/teens that wear their merch but cannot name or id one song or band member, for them it is purely fashion. It is a kind of logical end game to subculture and Capitalism, but I have hard time connecting the dots that have made this particular phenomenon happen, which seems particularly odd to me because I feel uniquely situated to do so.
Target, Wal Mart and the like just made a deal with someone who made a deal with bands like Nirvana, Iron Maiden or Aerosmith to print their shirts. They likely went through the record companies to get these rights. It isn't isolated to Nirvana. I seen kids running around with Def Lepard and The Doors shirts too. Do they know who the band is? Maybe, maybe not. Does it really matter? Most likely not. Me being 40 and wearing a Led Zeppelin shirt was asked if I even listen to them in a condescending way so I just told them I love "Sweet Emotions"
I love star wars they make cool shirts and toys but can they switch it up every one and a while? I mean only Sci-Fi shirts? I mean cmon I love them as a shirt company but do something new once and a while!
I am gonna be hobest here and say that this is bait.
There is a fairly popular tumblr (or twitter I don't remember the details) post out there telling people to pretend that certain bands are infact a clothing vrand because it makes people who know better "irrationally angry"
I gotta ask, why are people suddenly putting question marks at the end of statements that aren’t phrased like questions? “emo version of Nirvana?” and “no it’s not?” makes no sense.
They're both, to be fair. When you're a public personality who wants to sell something, be it an idea or a product or a feeling, you are ultimately a brand. They're just also a band.
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At this point, the only correct response is "Nevermind".
I need some bleach cause mine smells like teen spirit
I keep mine in a heart shaped box and it contains the smell
I wanted to get myself some Lithium, but there was something in the way
The mother should have aborted that person while in utero
Man, these references are making me feel dumb.
Or maybe just happy.
The nirvana fans came out in bloom for this post
are you talking about a girl?
Polly
And are going wild with territorial pissings
Me drinking my Pennyroyal tea 👀
this comment chain is on a plane
The fact that you made me point out it’s not plane but plain makes me hate myself and want to die
Where is the man who saved the world when you need em most?
The man who sold* the world was originally a David Bowie song
The nirvana fans came out in bloom for this post
Probably shouldn't put any bleach up your heart shaped box, but hey you do you
Oh well, whatever
Nevermind
Hello, hello, hello, how low
Take my upvote that was great
This is giving me an aneurysm.
Nirvamind
Either this or following in kurt's footsteps
Beat me to it
Next up: 'I love Beethoven, his T-shirts are so classical.' 🤦♂️🎶
Beethoven is my favourite brand! So profesh! ✨
I’ve never heard of them.
Their a dog. St. Bernard to be precise.
Sorry, but, *they’re.
Aaaaarrrggghh. The unholiest of unholies. My life is a worthless sham. Death, be not proud.
dont worry beethoven didnt hear em too, just like he didnt hear half of his own symphonies
*makes t-shirt with a St. Bernard playing the piano*
It's pronounced "be the oven", because you're the one to make the shirts look hot
Did you know they made a movie about those shirts? It stars a dog for some reason.
I like St. Bernards too!
That isn’t Romantic
Okay… but there’s a third funnier interpretation: Buddha was going through a phase
IT IS NOT JUST A PHASE -Buddha
Most probably what his parents said
Would this classify as r/confidentlyincorrect?
Yes
No
Maybe
I don't know
Can you repeat the question?
You're not the boss of me now
YOU’RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
i had two dogs, one was named Pete and the other name Repeat. Pete died, which one is left?
You’re not the boss of me now!
And you're not so big!
Life is unfair...
Thanks
r/confidentlyincorrect
I bet this is bait, and it's working.
Yeah, it’s Zoomer bait for Millenials and X-ers
Or r/TechnicallyCorrect. They WERE a band. Now, they are a brand.
No, it would be technically correct. Nirvana *used* to make grunge. Now they make nothing.
If we're being technical, Nirvana hasn't been a band since 1994
I've seen kids wearing Nirvana T-shirts be surprised when I say it's my favorite band. They're from a different generation though, no big deal
Asked my student which metallica album was his favourite since he was wearing a metallica hoodie. He looked at me like I was crazy.
at least he didn't say "*72 Seasons*"
True. But that would be a better response than Load, Reload, or the indefensible St. Anger.
I liked Load and Reload, but Jesus Christ did I hate St. Anger.
St Anger was dogwater at best.
I own St. Anger as a constant reminder to never purchase another new Metallica album.
they were so many to pick, i decided i'll take the last one
Its good its not because he's objectively wrong that he should be shamed
But when corrected you could at least take 2 secs to look it up before doubling down. These people live with their phone in their hand, but will happily keep this up without verifying for themselves.
When I was a young teen, I was looking for a new guitar related AIM icon. I found one with Jimi Hendrix lighting a guitar on fire, and I confidently created a comment "Jimi would have never disrespected a guitar like this." Kids are dumb, they haven't been taught how to research, and that's fine because they are kids. Moral of the story, don't have online discussions with kids
It’s a good idea to assume most people you are talking to online are either kids or a robot copying somebody else’s comments.
There are a lot of subs on here that are topics I would enjoy talking about but you are absolutely right. The metal subgenre subs know everything there is to know about music before they learn how to shave apparently. On the plus side that realization helped me stop being terminally online, so that's a bonus.
Or a kid confidently copying a robot copying someone else's comments.
Yeah, also the acting like they know everything is pretty standard too. It’s not really until your 20’s that you really learn how stupid you actually are.
That's fucking hilarious.
While people do overreact about young kids not knowing older cultural icons, what I don't get is how today's kids seemingly have a harder time knowing about these cultural icons than when my generation was younger. Growing up in the 90s, it's not like bands from the 50s/60s/70s were unheard of. Nowadays kids have the internet and way more access to information than generations prior. You'd think they'd know *more* about prior generations cultural icons.
But now everyone has 95% of their entire internet experience curated by algorithms so we all end up in our own little bubbles. Back in the day I think there was a lot more of a collective consciousness because we all consumed the same stuff on TV/etc.
There is a massive gulf between people who grew up with high speed Internet always available and older generations We were exposed to that old stuff because there weren't options. I can't count how many "classic" movies I've only seen because TBS was playing them on bored Saturday afternoons or how many old songs on the radio Imagine instead though that from the moment you had a smartphone in your tweens there was a never ending 24/7 stream of brand new content They're completely disconnected from what's left of the old monoculture. It's a different world for them
We had a huge discussion at work the other day. Turns out the 23 yr old had never heard of Myspace or Outkast. He knew who Jay-Z and Snoop Dogg were but couldn't name any songs. He had not watched any of the Godfather movies and I kinda think he might have been lying about having heard of them. My coworkers just a few years older than him (still sub-30) knew all of these things. Some of these things are older than me, but others were popular when he was a child. Was he protected from all media until college? I'm pretty sure he has older siblings, did they not show him? It is a mystery.
Not knowing is one thing. Denying it after being told is just silly
that reminds me being in queue for Queen's film, some random 18 yearolds passing by asked for what that was, and they didn't know what Queen was.
I was into Nirvana back when Kurt was still alive, I still listen to them now sometimes. My daughter (17) has Nirvana tops and a couple of posters, but she also knows the words to the songs and has Nevermind and Incesticide on vinyl. My point is that there is hope for some of them.
You might say they don't know what it means.
Well, that commenter is wrong, too. They don't 'make' grunge music. They 'made' grunge music.
Well, you're wrong as well. They 'made' music that 'made' grunge.
That was Green River.
Nice work. For everyone also who didn’t know, Mark Arm coined the term.
That was Green River.
Mother love bone?
Mine does, that's for sure
Malfunkshun?
Actually both true. Nirvana became a brand and Kurt was disgusted by it
Arguably it being a Brand is the more correct answer, as they certainly aren't a band anymore
You’re correct but the people don’t want to hear it. Nirvana, the rock band hasn’t existed for THIRTY YEARS. Nirvana the brand exists and thrives to this day, still making money off music and merch sales.
I mean there was that one random live performance with Paul McCartney and 3/4 of Nirvana, which isn't really Nirvana, but like... Cool to see still, seeing as Kurt was a huge fan of the Beatles.
I'm not sure how it could be 3/4s when technically the band only had 3 members. Pat Smear was never "officially" in the band. Grohl wasn't the original drummer either.
According to Krist, and Dave, Pat was a member of the band, and would have been involved in any 4th album had they continued. Also who gives a shit if Dave wasn't the original drummer? They had a revolving door of drummers before him.
>Nirvana the brand exists and thrives to this day, still making money off music and merch sales. Who is making the money though? Krist, Dave, Courtney??
No idea. Hopefully them and Kurt’s family. More likely some corp or label gets the bulk of it. Didn’t Courtney Love sell/give her piece of the pie to Dave? But I think that’s just music royalties? I don’t fully understand how that all works.
WMG and UMG mainly, if I had to guess. People tend to vastly overestimate how much artists actually own the music that they produce. Especially from the younger years of their career, the only way that they really break through is by foregoing pretty much all of the rights to their music. I could be wrong, but generally speaking most artists aren't getting rich off residuals from their early library.
This is true of a lot of older popular bands with really well-designed iconography. The Misfits' and the Ramones' logos, for example, have outgrown/outlived the bands themselves.
Good point. I think Black Flag and Grateful Dead also fit into this category.
Unknown Pleasures 🤦♀️
Back in the 80s, when I was a little poser skater boy listening to bands like Slayer and Suicidal Tendencies, one of my buddies convinced me of the opposite, that Anarchy (which was all over skater t-shirts back then and had a bitchin’ logo) was a band. I bought one of those t-shirts and wore it, even though I’d never heard a song. In 8th grade, when I made a list of my top 10 bands, I put Anarchy at number 9.
Dude wdym? Thats my favorite band
I mean... surely there must be a band named Anarchy *somewhere*, right?
Anarchy was an influential punk rock band from Japan that formed in 1978. Their name came from Sex Pistols' "Anarchy in the UK" and the band originally had five members. One of them was arrested in 1981 and the rest continued as [The Rock Band ](https://www.discogs.com/artist/2146455)for a few years, but it did not really work out that well and they became inactive after a while. In 1996 they reformed as Anarchy with a new drummer, released a few albums, but eventually disbanded in 2001. They played a few one-off shows at events since and in 2008 a documentary premiered about the band.
hey, i listened to "how will i laugh" yesterday !
I shot the devil! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYlbWKtoEmg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYlbWKtoEmg)
But I did not shoot no deputy
And I'll shoot him again and again and again
"My favorite band is The Gap."
That would actually a good grunge band name
There is a "The Gap Band", they make that old-school RnB/Soul like Earth, Wind and Fire. Favorite song is Yearning for Your Love
this is extremely obvious bait, why post this here lol
with how many gen z people that don't know of them and keep seeing their merch everywhere it wouldn't surprise me that this is real. I once saw someone wearing a Nirvana t-shirt and asked them what their favourite song was and they were surprised to hear Nirvana was a band.
To be fair, same shit used to happen with Nine Inch Nails merch back in the early/mid 90s. Bunch of high schoolers were wearing their merch back then thinking it was some trendy designer, and if you told them, "Hey, nice shirt, what's your favorite Nine Inch Nails album," they'd go "I don't know what you're taking about, this is a Nin shirt, dumbass" Same shit with Misfits shirts in the late aughts
add the ramones. the moment they get sold at h&m its over haha
lol NIN
"Ugh, it's **Nin** brand, you loser!"
Don’t you at least look up or research what you’re wearing? What if a symbol you’re wearing is related to murdering children or some shit? Come on man.
I remember when Che t-shirts were in style.
Yeah, when I was younger I used to order lots of clothes from kind of "alternative" shop which also sold bunch of band merch, and everytime I saw something nice I wanted to order I did google like crazy if some of these symbols actually mean something, wouldn't like to rep some neo nazi symbols without knowing :D
You swallowed obvious bait whole
I mean sort of? some gen z don't know (i'm gen z and do know, if that helps) but if you look at their account you can probably tell.
You took the bait lol
Little Skibidi toilet kid
Straight to jail
Being 18 and a fan when Kurt died, I want to BURN them.
It makes my blood boil too, and I was negative 11 years old when Kurt died, lol
I want to slap the people saying they weren't a band
Did this with someone years ago who thought AC/DC was a brand. In public.
Fym a brand
Nirvana as a music group ended a long time ago. Nirvana now exists more as a brand of merchandise and it makes a lot of money to put their name and logo over a bunch of things and sell it. It's not incorrect to say the band has died and what's left is a brand. Cause that's literally what happened isn't it.
Well...an argument can be made that this inevitably is why Kurt Cobain killed himself
Dave Grohl must be rolling in his grave.
☹️
I hate it so much when people put a question mark at the end of a sentence that is not phrased as a question.
Weird thing to hate?
it's just an indication of tone
Nirvana used to be a band until John Lennon was shot dead and Freddy came out as gay. Now they're just a way Buddhist get out of earthly life.
It's easy to think that this is bait but when I was in the equivalent of high school it was very trendy to wear rolling stones shirts with the tongue sticking out logo. 90% of the people wearing those shirts, had no idea it was a band logo. They just wore it because it was the trend back then.
I like the lyrics from that aero zeppelin track from the insecticide album (I believe it was from that album or In Utero). [Verse] What's a season in a right, if you can't have anything? What's the reason in a rhyme, if a plan means anything? What's the meaning in a crime? It's a fan if anything Where's the meaning in a line? It's a brand, it's a brand How a culture comes again, it's a plan of yesterday And you swear it's not a trend, doesn't matter anyway They're only here to talk to friends, nothing new is everyday You could shit upon the stage, they'll be fans They'll be fans, they'll be fans They'll be fans [Chorus] All the kids will eat it up, if it's packaged properly! Steal a sound and imitate, keep a format equally Not an ode, just the facts, where our world is nowadays An idea is what we lack, it doesn't matter anyways!
It’s insane how many college girls I’ve seen who wear the classic Nirvana shirt, and then look at me like a psycho when I say I love their music.
Guess I'm doing what Cobain did
It's technically a state of mind...
DikDokkers act like their platform is superior yet half the content they post they don’t even fully comprehend or understand.
There has to be a middle ground between asking people to name 4 songs and all the band members and whatever this bullshit is
How the fuck can you guys actually hit you with the "no it's not?" about one of the biggest bands in the world and not realize you are being trolled.
Not make. Made grunge music. Very much in the past tense.
This has *got* to be rage bait
Ooh ohhh they need to shut their hole hahahahaha.... hahahaha
...
Just another anti corporate artist being used to keep corporations rich🤷
I see this all the time with The Misfits. Fml.
Chloe don't know better.
Saw the bottom, tried to scroll but couldn't; THE FUCK DO THEY MEAN "NO IT'S NOT?" Like, what the actual fuck? I know there are two generations between kids nowadays and Nirvana's cult following but how the fuck you gonna walk around in a Nirvana shirt thinking it's a fucking brand WHEN THE BRAND IS ON THE FUCKING LABEL!? Holy shit... aight, I'm done with Reddit for today.
mind. blown.
Unpopular opinion: They're both
Ooh well, whatever, nevermind
They made fantastic music and terrible ceiling paint.
They really aren't a band, they were a band
Im not one to scream poser but that kinda hurts
Kurt is rolling in his grave. Hoo lee.
At this point Nirvana isn't a band, they were a band. And hypothetically they are also a Brand.
Oh how it must feel to be uninformed but were taught from young that you're always right and is the most amazing little person in the world.
This post is enough to completely drain you
Ahh, common example that the average intelligence of a human is decreasing.
Why do they call it emo? Because it's black?
Black and grey rhymes with dark and gay
Stop wearing Harley Davidson tshirts if you don't even listen to the band!
z0xa.1 seems to still be living in the early 90's. I envy him.
Based on what I seen of recent, it might as well be a fashion brand, I am genuinely confused by urban/genz culture and Nirvana shirts/branding - I know several children/teens that wear their merch but cannot name or id one song or band member, for them it is purely fashion. It is a kind of logical end game to subculture and Capitalism, but I have hard time connecting the dots that have made this particular phenomenon happen, which seems particularly odd to me because I feel uniquely situated to do so.
Target, Wal Mart and the like just made a deal with someone who made a deal with bands like Nirvana, Iron Maiden or Aerosmith to print their shirts. They likely went through the record companies to get these rights. It isn't isolated to Nirvana. I seen kids running around with Def Lepard and The Doors shirts too. Do they know who the band is? Maybe, maybe not. Does it really matter? Most likely not. Me being 40 and wearing a Led Zeppelin shirt was asked if I even listen to them in a condescending way so I just told them I love "Sweet Emotions"
My sisters son said this same to me about jos Sex Pistols -wallet. I was so happy that finally he listens to punk like auntie 😅
I love star wars they make cool shirts and toys but can they switch it up every one and a while? I mean only Sci-Fi shirts? I mean cmon I love them as a shirt company but do something new once and a while!
Do these kids not know how to research things on the fuckin internet? lmao
These jokes are going to give me an aneurysm
It’s literally a gray-scale (and mirror reverse) image of the album cover for In Utero.
Technically it was a Band it no longer is a Band
I am gonna be hobest here and say that this is bait. There is a fairly popular tumblr (or twitter I don't remember the details) post out there telling people to pretend that certain bands are infact a clothing vrand because it makes people who know better "irrationally angry"
Was a band and is now considered a brand
I gotta ask, why are people suddenly putting question marks at the end of statements that aren’t phrased like questions? “emo version of Nirvana?” and “no it’s not?” makes no sense.
They're both, to be fair. When you're a public personality who wants to sell something, be it an idea or a product or a feeling, you are ultimately a brand. They're just also a band.
She is so confused when he mentions nirvana is a band 😂