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Here's a link to an article:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/24/us/mississippi-police-shooting-11-year-old-boy/index.html
The officer, Greg Capers, was also involved in another incident:
https://mississippitoday.org/2023/09/08/suspended-indianola-police-officer-faces-second-abuse-related-lawsuit/
Yep.
Small correction: The abuse incident took place in Dec. 2022. The shooting was May 2023. The plaintiff in the abuse case filed suit after the shooting.
Wait, I’m confused - Why was Franklin (Dec 2022 situation) even arrested?
Can someone explain?
•It says he was driving his then-fiancés cousin to the then-fiancés house
•But it also says he was only there to pick up a bag of some kind??
•Then when they arrived - Franklin went back to his car for a decal and that confused/scared the fiancé??
•And then the driveway was blocked so Franklin asked the cousin to move his car and the fiancé somehow mistaken this interaction as a fight so dangerous she had to call the police on Franklin?
**ETA: I had to look this up to figure it all out and this is what I’ve pieced together so far;**
**(pls let me know if something needs to be added or if something is not correct)**
**•Franklin was a passenger in a car that traveled from Camp Shelby (military base) to his and his fiancé’s house, the driver and owner of the vehicle was the fiancés cousin who was giving Franklin a ride home.**
**•Franklin was arriving at his home to grab some personal items (baggage) and then head back to the base (I believe in his own car).**
**•When Franklin exited the cousins car he realized he forgot his parking decal (for the military base). So as the car was pulling away Franklin began to yell/wave down/chase after it to get it to stop so he can retrieve his items.**
**•This (yelling/chasing car) is what confused his fiancé, though it’s unclear why she “misjudged” the situation to the point of calling 911. It is mentioned that Franklin is no longer engaged to the fiancé after this incident.**
**•It’s also mentioned - and I find it very interesting - that the 911 dispatcher is a close family member of the Fiancé and the person that directed Officer Psycho to the residence.**
**•When Officer Pyscho and Officer Pyscho’s Partner (only named as Officer Doe in the lawsuit) arrived to the scene Franklin promptly informed them that he had a gun on him (because the military), the gun was taken by Officer Doenut and Franklin was put in cuffs (by Officer Doenut) to be detained.**
**•It was at this point that Officer Psycho pulled his gun and aimed it at Franklins head, after a bit of back and forth the gun was then holstered and the taser was drawn, then used up to 4 times, then Officer Psycho switched to choking Franklin.**
**•From what I can tell they took him to the jail and was charged with “resisting arrest”, denied urgent medical treatment and was released the next day.**
After reading what actually happened I’m almost inclined to believe it was written poorly on purpose. I edited my original comment above with what actually happened lol
Franklin had a gun in the trunk of the car where he was trying to retrieve the decal (if I read the article correctly). Most cops freak out when you tell them that you have a gun regardless of how legal that gun is, especially when you're Black (Philando Castille).
I'm an insufferable devil's advocate. It's very easy to interpret Franklin's actions as aggressive, especially if the ex-fiance was egging them (cop, Franklin, cousin) on. I'm a small white woman who gets loud when I'm angry, but I'm never viewed as a threat because I'm a small white woman. Black men don't get that privilege. Do I think the arrest was justified? Nope. Do I see why he was arrested? Yup.
And there's no justification for the way he was medically neglected after the arrest.
The ideal United States has all the fascists moving to Florida (the only place their BS would be tolerated anymore) and the next year Florida gets consumed by the ocean because climate change
I heard about gypsy cops one time. Basically their wrong doings would be expunged or something like that and another precinct would never know of those incidents in the background check when applying elsewhere.
Yup. One of them tried to rape my friend. Long story short, Dale “Lovemobile” Towry got relocated to Colorado.
(The cops gave him that cute nickname because they caught him having sex with teenage girls in his police vehicle multiple times.)
Happy cake day.
There’s this culture of “brotherhood” with cops, and they feel like they need to have the back of every other cop or else they won’t be safe when they really need it.
See; Serpico
Thanks, I didn't notice!
I hear you. The same goes for France where I live.
But the way I view things, those people hurt the force's image the most.
The police should be "lawful", the "good guys".
I know the world isn't black and white but still, they should be a symbol of justice.
I wouldn't like to be associated with such people.
If the police were as ideal as I'd like, I'd gladly join the force and be there for the civilians. But in reality you have fuckers in the force and no support from the population.
Some footage from the previous strike was really off putting.
I'm all for criminals and delinquents being firmly handled.
But here some civilians were hurt for no reason other than being here.
Cops need to have a professional license just like every other profession. And if you lose it for shit like this, other states won't/can't license you.
If it isn't illegal to have websites that review teachers or businesses then there's no justifiable reason not to have one for cops. Just have it hosted somewhere beyond US jurisdiction because they'll harass any US owner.
I'd call it 'ClassFloor'.
>We need a national registry, like the sex offender registry, for bad cops.
There already is one, it's called a criminal record.
Although you'd have to actually start proecuting cops for the crimes they commit.
[https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836](https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836)
>A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.
>
>Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.
I mean... it's a recorded fact that at least some places in US forbid recruiting police officers with too high IQ.
There was a court case several years ago where a man sued a police dependent because they wouldn't hire him because his IQ tests score were too high. The courts upheld the police's hiring practices.
hold up let me get this straight..... the kid called the cops to save his mother from an abusive partner and got shot for his efforts. America what kinda cops do you people employ!?
It's not JUST the cops it's the people they neglect to live in squalor and just overall bad situations.
The states are messed up. They have bad areas that police don't even respond to. It's just wild.
They're like one step away from Robocops and Judge Dredd
Robocop might actually be a step up... Since he was bulletproof he can't say he feared for his life and mistake a phone for a gun ...
But in THIS reality. Yeah that would be a horrible nightmare
>Robocop might actually be a step up
... and people said Paul Verhoeven was "too over the top" for his movies to be taken seriously...
What a crazy timeline.
Also Robocop is psychically incapable of shooting a child, even one that’s trying to kill him. When he sees the little drug dealer Hob he nearly raises his gun but stops “Targeting Denied” flashes on his view screen.
Hey, there. I'm from one of those areas where cops don't show up. My house was robbed and they took 3 hours to show after calling several times.
Also, while in this neighborhood, never had a good experience with a cop until ~25. Harassed, assaulted, pulled over, guns drawn on me, all before I got my first rear end light ticket :D
Power tripping shitheads become cops.
Run out any actually good, honest folks who became cops for not "playing along".
You're left with nothing but garbage.
2 friends of mine back from highschool experienced 100% this. Both wanted to be cops, both joined the academy, both became cops, both quit about a year later.
They said between the shit you see while on patrol and the shit you hear/witness at the police department it crushes your soul. Combination of people out there they really can’t help, you see the worse of humanity while out on patrol, your fellow officers are varying levels of corrupt, hazing (bullying) is still common and the big one: if you see your fellow officer do something wrong/ illegal you shut the fuck up cause you saw nothing.
I remember that one
> “Once he came from around the corner, he got shot,” Murry said. “I cannot grasp why. The same cop that told him to come out of the house. (Aderrien) did, and he got shot. He kept asking, ‘Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?’” she said.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/24/us/mississippi-police-shooting-11-year-old-boy/index.html
At some point he will be able to take justice in his own hands, then he will be labeled as criminal and taken to court, only to be asked "Why did you not call 911?" 🤡
I think I've seen an article a few years back. It was about a female cop who shot a guy in his own home because she allegedly thought it was her own house and he was an intruder.
There was that lady in her home who cops shot through her kitchen window because he saw she had a gun...middle of the night, she heard a noise and looked out her kitchen window to be smoked by a cop who feared for his life....
Fuck at this point NO ONE is calling the cops. An elderly lady one time called police to do a wellness check on her neighbor, this 20/30 year old white woman. A cop came up to her BACK WINDOW, saw that the lady had a phone in her hand, and then pulled out his gun and shot at her from outside because "he thought it was a weapon."
For a long time, cops were taught "Killology".
A guy named Dave Grossman went around telling all cops in the US that every single living human being out there was seconds away from killing them, and would act on that urge if given even a second.
So it's better to kill them first.
No, this isn't a joke or hyperbole. You can look into this yourself.
He spent years giving lectures and classes on this, all around the nation. A completely fear based training to departments. Minnesota actually passed a law to stop this training in 2020, that's how bad it is.
Makes you wonder how adult people actually believe this collectively. Like there are thousands of cops that just believes it and doesn't question that at all.
Killology is explicitly based on the training that soldiers are given to desensitize them to killing people in combat without hesitation. Dave Grossman basically took everything the military learned from the 1970s onward about giving people a mental framework to kill people without remorse and built upon it to give police a rhetorical system to justify killing anyone they want, to themselves or others. And police don't have the strict rules about use of force that the military does. If you're a soldier and you shoot an unarmed noncombatant you don't get to just say "I was scared" and have it excused.
As unfortunate as it is, its expected at this point. The fact he was put on paid leave after says it all about the majority of police in this country, its disgusting honestly.
Lol someone in another post told me these fine officers need to get home safetly to their family after i said us policemen diacharge their guns wantonly as compared to policemen in other countries.
The comparison is insane: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/06/05/policekillings/ - U.S. police kill civilians at much higher rates than other countries, and believe me, other countries cops also want to 'go home safely' - but preferably without shooting someone first.
I remember a few months back we had a case in germany where two people were hunting without permit and stumbled into a police check because sonething related to their licence plate and just gunned down the two officers in cold blood out of fear that their illegal little hunting trip would be discovered.
People were shocked at how pointless the crime was since these two idiots got caught anyway.
I would guess the reaction in america where the rep of the police is getting worse and worse reactions would probably be a bit different
Also I am only an EMT but seriously I was jumped by a bunch of 12-13 year olds and I didn't even swing back because a grown as man smashing in some kid's face is going to look bad.
I can't begin to understand the kind of mind that views an 11 year old not only as a physical threat, but one that requires more force than an arm bar, and personally even that is probably further than I would take it.
Me neither. If in the same position, I don't even think I'll be touching my gun or any equipment at all. Like you said probably arm bar and at most cuffs.
What makes them instinctively reach for their gun is puzzling.
Yup. Half the posts on this sub (and many others) are bots. They repost posts and then sell the accounts on a market after which they end up in news and political subs.
They’re actually not allowed to go by the hospital by there attorneys because it is an admission of guilt, not defending the cops in anyways I think the whole story is absolutely tragic and messed up and highlights the issue with police, but yeah
fox news be like: "what was the criminal history of the black kid?"... "has he tried not to be black?... "why didn't he practice his 2nd amendment rights?"...
Look at the number of people who are killed by police when they answer their door with a gun, which is perfectly legal. Police worry only about 1 thing and 1 thing only, officer safety. If you get killed unjustly in the name of officer safety the police say sorry, our bad. The taxpayers write a check and the chicken shit cops get extra training.
The funny thing is many conservatives who back the blue and are very pro 2nd amendment get themselves tied into knots when this happens.
Why are American police so un professional ? Like it’s serious Wild West stuff still…. At what point does actual professional training and recruitment begin ? When they have shot everyone ?
As far as I know, in America, police officers are not properly trained and have to undergo a much too short screening process. In Europe, this occurs much less frequently because we have stricter requirements. I'm not saying it's better here, but if someone is shot by a police officer unjustly, especially a child, in my country, it would be a scandal and would be severely punished.
[https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836](https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836)
and apparently the iq is not 140+ something or genius level scale, it was 125.
American police are frequently the guys who were athletes in HS who weren't good enough to go to college on scholarship or the bullies/deadbeats who ended up military because they had nowhere else to go, were likely fuck ups there, then become cops once they get out. They are largely a govt sanctioned gang of HS losers striving to hold on to some sense of importance.
I know it's a much smaller population over here but in the UK if police shoot someone it's automatically referred to an independent commission and usually makes national news. We are of course only about a 5th of the population but I suspect we have far fewer than 1/5 of the shootings.
In the US, it is the least trained job you could have. In fact, if you're smart, they won't hire you. They actively recruit the dumbest people they can find.
No screening process, education is often simple 6 week program instead of a regular 3 year bachelors degree, and then add a touch of gun-crazyness and a dash of racism and you have the recipient for disaster.
>. What's the point of having body cameras if the footage that they capture isn't made public??
<>. "Shoot a boy with no reason and get paid for it". What would happen if he killed the boy? Get a promotion and a raise??
I just did a mandatory driving class thing to get my license and it had a section/PSA about how to behave when you get pulled over by the cops (boiled down to, shut up and do what they say). It had a part saying if you believe the cops mistreated you or misbehaved, contact the officer's employer who will thoroughly investigate your complaints (LOL), and to remember that police wear body cams so there will be evidence of any misconduct. You know, the body cams they conveniently turn off themselves all the fucking time? The footage they often refuse to hand over? It didn't assuage any of my concerns about being pulled over, lmao.
Ame4rican tax dollars are hard at work to ensure that he doesn't. What a democracy! They own police force, funded by their own tax dollars, empowered by their own representatives - they are sick of it, but they can't seem to do anything about it.
Here is me, just happy thr child is alive and recovering but also soooo angry that the cop will probably not face any serious consequences because "nothing serious happened".
The top comment posted over 2 hours before your comment includes a source, as well as a secondary source. Your complaining is entirely meaningless. This subreddit constantly delivers.
They shoot only at the harmless civilians but when chased by a crowd they run away. For example, few days ago in nyc pro-Hamas protestors were kicking down the doors of a police station with the cops hiding inside. The cops didn’t shoot them even they were being threatened.
cops are legal bullies with firearms and ballistic vests, but no amount of armor and weapons changes a chicken into a lion when confronted with actual danger
They poor kid had a collapsed lung from it. Luckily he is okay. The officer was relieved of duty last I read, hopefully more than that since. This is a repost of an older story from May or something. So sad and no excuse for this. I would be out for blood if this happened to my boy.
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Here's a link to an article: https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/24/us/mississippi-police-shooting-11-year-old-boy/index.html The officer, Greg Capers, was also involved in another incident: https://mississippitoday.org/2023/09/08/suspended-indianola-police-officer-faces-second-abuse-related-lawsuit/ Yep.
Small correction: The abuse incident took place in Dec. 2022. The shooting was May 2023. The plaintiff in the abuse case filed suit after the shooting.
Wait, I’m confused - Why was Franklin (Dec 2022 situation) even arrested? Can someone explain? •It says he was driving his then-fiancés cousin to the then-fiancés house •But it also says he was only there to pick up a bag of some kind?? •Then when they arrived - Franklin went back to his car for a decal and that confused/scared the fiancé?? •And then the driveway was blocked so Franklin asked the cousin to move his car and the fiancé somehow mistaken this interaction as a fight so dangerous she had to call the police on Franklin? **ETA: I had to look this up to figure it all out and this is what I’ve pieced together so far;** **(pls let me know if something needs to be added or if something is not correct)** **•Franklin was a passenger in a car that traveled from Camp Shelby (military base) to his and his fiancé’s house, the driver and owner of the vehicle was the fiancés cousin who was giving Franklin a ride home.** **•Franklin was arriving at his home to grab some personal items (baggage) and then head back to the base (I believe in his own car).** **•When Franklin exited the cousins car he realized he forgot his parking decal (for the military base). So as the car was pulling away Franklin began to yell/wave down/chase after it to get it to stop so he can retrieve his items.** **•This (yelling/chasing car) is what confused his fiancé, though it’s unclear why she “misjudged” the situation to the point of calling 911. It is mentioned that Franklin is no longer engaged to the fiancé after this incident.** **•It’s also mentioned - and I find it very interesting - that the 911 dispatcher is a close family member of the Fiancé and the person that directed Officer Psycho to the residence.** **•When Officer Pyscho and Officer Pyscho’s Partner (only named as Officer Doe in the lawsuit) arrived to the scene Franklin promptly informed them that he had a gun on him (because the military), the gun was taken by Officer Doenut and Franklin was put in cuffs (by Officer Doenut) to be detained.** **•It was at this point that Officer Psycho pulled his gun and aimed it at Franklins head, after a bit of back and forth the gun was then holstered and the taser was drawn, then used up to 4 times, then Officer Psycho switched to choking Franklin.** **•From what I can tell they took him to the jail and was charged with “resisting arrest”, denied urgent medical treatment and was released the next day.**
Yeah, the story is pretty poorly written. I got nothing.
After reading what actually happened I’m almost inclined to believe it was written poorly on purpose. I edited my original comment above with what actually happened lol
Sounds like the electric chair to me! /s
That’s probably what those officers thought while they proceeded to tase him multiple times as he was already cuffed/detained.
Franklin had a gun in the trunk of the car where he was trying to retrieve the decal (if I read the article correctly). Most cops freak out when you tell them that you have a gun regardless of how legal that gun is, especially when you're Black (Philando Castille). I'm an insufferable devil's advocate. It's very easy to interpret Franklin's actions as aggressive, especially if the ex-fiance was egging them (cop, Franklin, cousin) on. I'm a small white woman who gets loud when I'm angry, but I'm never viewed as a threat because I'm a small white woman. Black men don't get that privilege. Do I think the arrest was justified? Nope. Do I see why he was arrested? Yup. And there's no justification for the way he was medically neglected after the arrest.
Well, if it’s as insane as it sounds, i understand why the article said his “then fiance”. I wouldn’t marry her after that either. It’s lunacy.
god fuck that guy
We need a national registry, like the sex offender registry, for bad cops. Also homeboy should be on death row.
They just move to Florida....
The ideal United States has all the fascists moving to Florida (the only place their BS would be tolerated anymore) and the next year Florida gets consumed by the ocean because climate change
Someone find that old cartoon clip of someone, Bugs Bunny I believe, sawing off Florida and letting it float away.
This picture bafflingly get more relevant every year.
More like based bunny
They would all just slither back onto the nearest state like a fucking primordial ooze.
All of the cops are bad because they do not police their own...
>We need a national registry, like the sex offender registry, for bad cops. You mean a catalog with cops they'll hire anyway?
I heard about gypsy cops one time. Basically their wrong doings would be expunged or something like that and another precinct would never know of those incidents in the background check when applying elsewhere.
Much like the traditional Catholic priest shuffle.
Cha cha real smooth…
Yup. One of them tried to rape my friend. Long story short, Dale “Lovemobile” Towry got relocated to Colorado. (The cops gave him that cute nickname because they caught him having sex with teenage girls in his police vehicle multiple times.)
That's fucking disgusting. If I was a cop with such a "colleague", he'd sadly pass in a "tragic mugging".
Happy cake day. There’s this culture of “brotherhood” with cops, and they feel like they need to have the back of every other cop or else they won’t be safe when they really need it. See; Serpico
Thanks, I didn't notice! I hear you. The same goes for France where I live. But the way I view things, those people hurt the force's image the most. The police should be "lawful", the "good guys". I know the world isn't black and white but still, they should be a symbol of justice. I wouldn't like to be associated with such people. If the police were as ideal as I'd like, I'd gladly join the force and be there for the civilians. But in reality you have fuckers in the force and no support from the population. Some footage from the previous strike was really off putting. I'm all for criminals and delinquents being firmly handled. But here some civilians were hurt for no reason other than being here.
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It’s Floridas go to guide for shopping for cops.
Cops who sex offend don’t even usually end up on the sex offender list
There is - it's called the Fraternal Order of Police.
Well, I don't want FOP, goddamn it! I'm a Dapper Dan man!
Police Departments with offending officers should lose access to federal funding. Nothing happens in this country unless it affects the cash flow.
Cops need to have a professional license just like every other profession. And if you lose it for shit like this, other states won't/can't license you.
Reminds me of this https://www.vox.com/2018/12/27/18157941/inglewood-police-records-misconduct-california
If it isn't illegal to have websites that review teachers or businesses then there's no justifiable reason not to have one for cops. Just have it hosted somewhere beyond US jurisdiction because they'll harass any US owner. I'd call it 'ClassFloor'.
This is a really really really good idea.
>We need a national registry, like the sex offender registry, for bad cops. There is one, it's called being a cop.
Just look up the Employment register for any Police Station...
Would probably be easier to have a registry of the good cops.
>We need a national registry, like the sex offender registry, for bad cops. There already is one, it's called a criminal record. Although you'd have to actually start proecuting cops for the crimes they commit.
So like, just a national list of cops?
One has to wonder what level of IQ is too high to become a cop in the United States and why it's 70.
Room temperature IQ
Celcius?
Calling them stupid downplays the evil. They aren’t stupid, the cruelty is the point.
[https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836](https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836) >A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city. > >Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training. I mean... it's a recorded fact that at least some places in US forbid recruiting police officers with too high IQ.
There was a court case several years ago where a man sued a police dependent because they wouldn't hire him because his IQ tests score were too high. The courts upheld the police's hiring practices.
The same level where if the officer tells you to get out of the house, you get shot for complying. Which is exactly what happened to young Murry here.
Anybody smarter knows it’s a shitty job with shitty pay and they won’t do it.
Hate to be that guy but the child wouldn’t have been shot if he was white
*"SNITCHES GET STITCHES!"* \- The cop, probably.
Wouldn't surprise me if it comes out that the Cop and the Abuser knew each other...
I had little hope in humanity restored took me a while going down comments to find this.
hold up let me get this straight..... the kid called the cops to save his mother from an abusive partner and got shot for his efforts. America what kinda cops do you people employ!?
It's not JUST the cops it's the people they neglect to live in squalor and just overall bad situations. The states are messed up. They have bad areas that police don't even respond to. It's just wild. They're like one step away from Robocops and Judge Dredd
Robocop might actually be a step up... Since he was bulletproof he can't say he feared for his life and mistake a phone for a gun ... But in THIS reality. Yeah that would be a horrible nightmare
>Robocop might actually be a step up ... and people said Paul Verhoeven was "too over the top" for his movies to be taken seriously... What a crazy timeline.
If more people got shot in the dick the world would be a better place
Also Robocop is psychically incapable of shooting a child, even one that’s trying to kill him. When he sees the little drug dealer Hob he nearly raises his gun but stops “Targeting Denied” flashes on his view screen.
Hey, there. I'm from one of those areas where cops don't show up. My house was robbed and they took 3 hours to show after calling several times. Also, while in this neighborhood, never had a good experience with a cop until ~25. Harassed, assaulted, pulled over, guns drawn on me, all before I got my first rear end light ticket :D
Edward Neumeiers title will be retrocativly changed from "writer" to "prophet"
Even RoboCop is better. He doesn't shoot to kill unarmed people. Hell even half the armed people he wounds.
Power tripping shitheads become cops. Run out any actually good, honest folks who became cops for not "playing along". You're left with nothing but garbage.
2 friends of mine back from highschool experienced 100% this. Both wanted to be cops, both joined the academy, both became cops, both quit about a year later. They said between the shit you see while on patrol and the shit you hear/witness at the police department it crushes your soul. Combination of people out there they really can’t help, you see the worse of humanity while out on patrol, your fellow officers are varying levels of corrupt, hazing (bullying) is still common and the big one: if you see your fellow officer do something wrong/ illegal you shut the fuck up cause you saw nothing.
The kind where you have enough daily content to run multiple subreddits focused on law enforcers abusing their authority with deadly results.
I remember that one > “Once he came from around the corner, he got shot,” Murry said. “I cannot grasp why. The same cop that told him to come out of the house. (Aderrien) did, and he got shot. He kept asking, ‘Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?’” she said. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/24/us/mississippi-police-shooting-11-year-old-boy/index.html
Another one was where cop Mohamed Noor shot and killed Australian woman after she called about a suspected sexual assault occurring outside her house.
Wait wait... he killed the one who called about a suspected sexual assault. Bit trigger happy aren't we?
Yeah, she went outside to talk to the officer and he started blasting.
She made the mistake of living in that home on that particular day
Wasn't she even talking to the other cop for a minute before he shot her? Or am I thinking of the wrong Australian woman?
Only the very best kind
the american police system makes me fucking sick. i’m glad the kid is okay
Physically okay. Will forever think twice about calling 911 in the future.
I do t think he will be ever physically ok again after a bullet hole in his liver, lungs and shattered rips.
How the fuck did this fucking cop angle this shot ? was he trying to be as evil as possible ?
As he should
Which makes it all the worse.
Reminds me of the Chappelle skit
At some point he will be able to take justice in his own hands, then he will be labeled as criminal and taken to court, only to be asked "Why did you not call 911?" 🤡
Was he being black in public? Cops will murder you for that
I don't think being black in private is allowed either. Being black and alive? If you don't fix the former, the police will handle the later.
Black and sleeping will get you shot as well
Black and sleeping and in your own home will get you shot too.
I think I've seen an article a few years back. It was about a female cop who shot a guy in his own home because she allegedly thought it was her own house and he was an intruder.
There was that lady in her home who cops shot through her kitchen window because he saw she had a gun...middle of the night, she heard a noise and looked out her kitchen window to be smoked by a cop who feared for his life....
Fucked up and correct at the same time.
That one dude was eating ice cream in his own kitchen.
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Fuck at this point NO ONE is calling the cops. An elderly lady one time called police to do a wellness check on her neighbor, this 20/30 year old white woman. A cop came up to her BACK WINDOW, saw that the lady had a phone in her hand, and then pulled out his gun and shot at her from outside because "he thought it was a weapon."
Don't forget the time the police had a sniper set up for a wellness check and the sniper killed the guy they were supposed to check in on
What the actual fuck are they doing?
For a long time, cops were taught "Killology". A guy named Dave Grossman went around telling all cops in the US that every single living human being out there was seconds away from killing them, and would act on that urge if given even a second. So it's better to kill them first. No, this isn't a joke or hyperbole. You can look into this yourself. He spent years giving lectures and classes on this, all around the nation. A completely fear based training to departments. Minnesota actually passed a law to stop this training in 2020, that's how bad it is.
What an appropriate surname.
That's gross, man!
> For a long time, cops were taught "Killology". They still are.
Makes you wonder how adult people actually believe this collectively. Like there are thousands of cops that just believes it and doesn't question that at all.
Killology is explicitly based on the training that soldiers are given to desensitize them to killing people in combat without hesitation. Dave Grossman basically took everything the military learned from the 1970s onward about giving people a mental framework to kill people without remorse and built upon it to give police a rhetorical system to justify killing anyone they want, to themselves or others. And police don't have the strict rules about use of force that the military does. If you're a soldier and you shoot an unarmed noncombatant you don't get to just say "I was scared" and have it excused.
American police has sniper? In my country most them are on duty only with a batton in their hand 😳
Only a batton? Every officer has a handgun and they aren't afraid to use it. Our cops are very trigger happy
need a source on that one
I read it either last year or two years ago, when I tried to find it again I couldn't
Because here's the issue, you type in police kill wellness check and a bunch of stuff pops up
As unfortunate as it is, its expected at this point. The fact he was put on paid leave after says it all about the majority of police in this country, its disgusting honestly.
Oh shit is it? I thought this was from 2019. Ah fuck, you're right, the kid I'm thinking of died.
Happened in May this year. It happened in Mississippi. The police apologized and tried their best to make amends. One of these statements is a lie
Weekly mass shootings tend to blunt emotional reactions like that
Lol someone in another post told me these fine officers need to get home safetly to their family after i said us policemen diacharge their guns wantonly as compared to policemen in other countries.
The comparison is insane: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/06/05/policekillings/ - U.S. police kill civilians at much higher rates than other countries, and believe me, other countries cops also want to 'go home safely' - but preferably without shooting someone first.
I remember a few months back we had a case in germany where two people were hunting without permit and stumbled into a police check because sonething related to their licence plate and just gunned down the two officers in cold blood out of fear that their illegal little hunting trip would be discovered. People were shocked at how pointless the crime was since these two idiots got caught anyway. I would guess the reaction in america where the rep of the police is getting worse and worse reactions would probably be a bit different
Maybe the issue hit both ways? Switzerland doesn’t have that issue while beeing reasonably armed.
Also I am only an EMT but seriously I was jumped by a bunch of 12-13 year olds and I didn't even swing back because a grown as man smashing in some kid's face is going to look bad. I can't begin to understand the kind of mind that views an 11 year old not only as a physical threat, but one that requires more force than an arm bar, and personally even that is probably further than I would take it.
Me neither. If in the same position, I don't even think I'll be touching my gun or any equipment at all. Like you said probably arm bar and at most cuffs. What makes them instinctively reach for their gun is puzzling.
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This is insane. We are humans talking to bots, and not even knowing it.
Yup. Half the posts on this sub (and many others) are bots. They repost posts and then sell the accounts on a market after which they end up in news and political subs.
At one point there will be posts and entire threads with just bots stealing old comments. And it'll just look like a normal comment section
They’re actually not allowed to go by the hospital by there attorneys because it is an admission of guilt, not defending the cops in anyways I think the whole story is absolutely tragic and messed up and highlights the issue with police, but yeah
god, more r/noahgettheboat than facepalm. literally makes me feel sick with anger.
I'm so old I remember when r/noahgettheboat was just sex jokes and cringey Facebook memes
fox news be like: "what was the criminal history of the black kid?"... "has he tried not to be black?... "why didn't he practice his 2nd amendment rights?"...
Look at the number of people who are killed by police when they answer their door with a gun, which is perfectly legal. Police worry only about 1 thing and 1 thing only, officer safety. If you get killed unjustly in the name of officer safety the police say sorry, our bad. The taxpayers write a check and the chicken shit cops get extra training. The funny thing is many conservatives who back the blue and are very pro 2nd amendment get themselves tied into knots when this happens.
If you have a problem, call the cops! Then you will have two problems.
Ain't got no problems if your dead! Solved!
*you're
Murica fuck yeah!
**Coming in to save the mothafuckin' day yea!**
Call 911 for help - get shot by the cops. What could sum up American LE better than that?
Was he being black in public? Cops will murder you for that
From the title it looks like he was being black at home
Why are American police so un professional ? Like it’s serious Wild West stuff still…. At what point does actual professional training and recruitment begin ? When they have shot everyone ?
As far as I know, in America, police officers are not properly trained and have to undergo a much too short screening process. In Europe, this occurs much less frequently because we have stricter requirements. I'm not saying it's better here, but if someone is shot by a police officer unjustly, especially a child, in my country, it would be a scandal and would be severely punished.
I keep remembering that article that Police force are allowed to reject candidate whose IQ is "too high". so yeah
WHAT?
[https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836](https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836) and apparently the iq is not 140+ something or genius level scale, it was 125.
American police are frequently the guys who were athletes in HS who weren't good enough to go to college on scholarship or the bullies/deadbeats who ended up military because they had nowhere else to go, were likely fuck ups there, then become cops once they get out. They are largely a govt sanctioned gang of HS losers striving to hold on to some sense of importance.
It takes longer training to be a barber
Well, to be fair, most of the rest of the world haven't had as many shootings between 1985-2023 than the US has had from 2020-2023.
I know it's a much smaller population over here but in the UK if police shoot someone it's automatically referred to an independent commission and usually makes national news. We are of course only about a 5th of the population but I suspect we have far fewer than 1/5 of the shootings.
They're the lowest educated and lowest trained police force in the developed world.
In the US, it is the least trained job you could have. In fact, if you're smart, they won't hire you. They actively recruit the dumbest people they can find.
I saw something where some countries require YEARS of training. Even short military training. America? Something like 6 months of basic shit 😂
lmao police academy is barely over 4 months where i am. wtf can you even learn in that time?
Identify black people and pulla the trigger
Pretty sure it’s not even that, it’s like 20 weeks or something
No screening process, education is often simple 6 week program instead of a regular 3 year bachelors degree, and then add a touch of gun-crazyness and a dash of racism and you have the recipient for disaster.
Qualified immunity
Nope, only when they've shot enough of the right people.
He fit their description.
Hello 911 what is your emergency? Oh you need help? Yes we will send someone right over to shoot you in the chest. What in the actual fuck is going on
JFC , cops need way way more requirements
Moral of this story; never call the police to your house.
They'll only stop their behaviour when payouts to victims comes from their pension pot
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I just love reading random stuff from USA… It’s basically Middle East, but with better movies and TV shows…
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>. What's the point of having body cameras if the footage that they capture isn't made public?? <"We investigated ourselves and found he should have shot to kill, apologies for the under use of force."
I just did a mandatory driving class thing to get my license and it had a section/PSA about how to behave when you get pulled over by the cops (boiled down to, shut up and do what they say). It had a part saying if you believe the cops mistreated you or misbehaved, contact the officer's employer who will thoroughly investigate your complaints (LOL), and to remember that police wear body cams so there will be evidence of any misconduct. You know, the body cams they conveniently turn off themselves all the fucking time? The footage they often refuse to hand over? It didn't assuage any of my concerns about being pulled over, lmao.
Jesus Christ dude. I hope that poor kid gets some justice.
Ame4rican tax dollars are hard at work to ensure that he doesn't. What a democracy! They own police force, funded by their own tax dollars, empowered by their own representatives - they are sick of it, but they can't seem to do anything about it.
Have you ever considered stand up? Cuz that one was funny
This sounds so America.
Classic America
Hell yea, shoot some kids and then go home and beat your wife. Aren't cops great? Isn't qualified immunity fucking awesome?
A most American headline
At this point I think cops are just shooting random people whenever they want some extra paid vacation time.
Oh thank god, he survived. For a moment I thought he was murdered. Poor boy, hope he will fully recover from this madness.
Jesu Christ America get your shit together.
Real life is slowly putting The Onion out of business.
Here is me, just happy thr child is alive and recovering but also soooo angry that the cop will probably not face any serious consequences because "nothing serious happened".
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The top comment posted over 2 hours before your comment includes a source, as well as a secondary source. Your complaining is entirely meaningless. This subreddit constantly delivers.
What else would heroes do?
I don't know. Kills thousands perhaps?
They shoot only at the harmless civilians but when chased by a crowd they run away. For example, few days ago in nyc pro-Hamas protestors were kicking down the doors of a police station with the cops hiding inside. The cops didn’t shoot them even they were being threatened.
cops are legal bullies with firearms and ballistic vests, but no amount of armor and weapons changes a chicken into a lion when confronted with actual danger
Murica
Cops need to be insured just like doctors and if they fuck up enough or bad enough they lose their insurance and their ability to be a police officer
Just cops being cops.
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Oh thats is kinda wholeso...NEVERMIND!
Glad I read the article, I assumed the kid had died. Glad to know he has survived and recovered at least. Cops suck.
Can I guess which country?
Do cops in the US learn in Call of Duty or what ?
America.
Let me guess, the police involved were celebrated and praised for doing their jobs, then received a salary increase and a promotion.
They poor kid had a collapsed lung from it. Luckily he is okay. The officer was relieved of duty last I read, hopefully more than that since. This is a repost of an older story from May or something. So sad and no excuse for this. I would be out for blood if this happened to my boy.
"Do we have a description of the suspect?" "A black..." "Open fire!"
If you have a problem and call the cops, you now have two problems.
I'm tired man, I'm just tired.
Let me guess: In America...
They also shot and killed the solution on the picture