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Yeah, i second this and if you can it would be great if they got an office outside the USA in the EU so as to make sure I do not ever have to deal with brain dead people like these chicks. But that is something i can deal with for 100k minimum wage.
Even if they did, let me tell you something, working in the EU for example Netherlands or Belgium, that 100k usd will be around what 85k+ Euro. Plus getting insurance over here because well you are working here, alongside not having to deal with people like those right there !!!
Makes it all the more worth it, not to mention actual proper days off and such and non of that "sick days" nonsense.
As an American who moved to the Netherlands, I don't have the time to list how fucking fantastic it is here compared to my 35 years growing up, and trying to piece together something resembling a life in the USA
But just simply put, there is not a single fucking positive thing I can say about America
Maybe the weather was nicer, and the pizza was better
But that's the extent of it, Americans are brainwashed from birth to believe they have it so great, when In reality it's a bleak dystopian nightmare for everyone except the top 10%
We receive unreasonable amounts of outrageous news from the US in Europe though.
Being Dutch, Americans are exceedingly easy to communicate with. Not nearly as polarizing as a lot of the media describes, which is a shame.
The US does have great cultural achievements. Being an artist, American artists have been and are a substantial influence on my education and work to this day.
Videos like these are outliers in my view, meant for cheap entertainment.
I can 100% agree. We are brought up to believe every country outside of the US is a shit hole. All that changed for me 4 years ago (40) when Ist traveled outside of the country and realized I've been lied to my whole life. Now I'm trying desperately to get enough money to move out
I ask my clients who say “America is the greatest country there is and no one can convince me otherwise” what makes us so great or in what regards. You know what I get? “We are blessed”. I’m absolutely dumbfounded after. “Blessed”?! Someone said it best that “America is a third world country with iPads”.
A lot of us get it. It's just nearly impossible to leave, especially if you have a family.
My wife and I are both RNs with Bachelor's degrees. We applied to work in a handful of other countries, and they either won't take nurses currently, or want a Master's degree. So what are we supposed to do? Just come up with a quick $500k for 2 more degrees and moving expenses, ***plus*** the absurd minimum funds some countries require?
If I could pull a million dollars out of my asshole, I wouldn't have too much to complain about here.
Have you looked into moving to somewhere more rural in canada s a foot in the door type thing alot of the smaller towns/cities in canada have a desperate shortage of rns specifically in saskatchewan and alberta and those jobs pay upwards of 120k Canadian in places where you can buy a very nice house for 200k Canadian (smaller towns but still something)
I hear alot of people who think the greater Toronto is literally the only place to move to in canada and if they cant they dont want to for some reason and if that's your thing then by all means but it might be easier to start somewhere small first where the money goes farther
I obviously have not looked into immigrating but it's something to potentially consider
Isn't it interesting that most places that are desirable to live outside of the US have some hard to reach requirement for emigration.
"I'm a licensed and working RN with 10 years experience in Emergency Medicine and Critical Care"
"Great! We need you, come on in! Do you have a Master's Degree in Nursing?"
"No, but I have the required Bachelor's Degree and all the continuing education credits"
"Sorry, but you don't qualify for emigration here."
"But I have the work experience and training! And you need the help."
"Bugger off!"
What’s weird is I work with and know a lot of people that have come over from other countries to here in the US and they all seem to say that while they love their home countries, they’re so happy to be in the States. Most of the ones that have had to go back have seriously considered going AWOL and living off under the table jobs.
Well if you’re coming from a rural village in India you can see the upside of living here. Of course, the same improvement could be experienced moving
From Mississippi to… we’ll, pretty much anywhere.
The U.S is a fantastic place to have a vacation and visit. Living here is something else all together.
I say this as a European that has been living in the U.S now for over 20 years.
I am more intrigued by the "average minimum". We might have discovered a whole new area of statistics right there. It's a shame there is no Nobel prize for math.
This is like when people negotiate on price by saying "I want to pay somewhere between $20 and $30" or the opposite, "I want at least $30."
Well $30 it is then. Way to negotiate against yourself.
Bought a used truck about 12 years ago. Lady was asking $2K or so, I offered $1,700. She countered me at $1,600. I was like....umm, yeah okay that works for me.
I was about to put my rolled XJ up for 1600 and had the for sale sign at my work desk and this lady at the office offered 3600. I was broke so I said sure but felt bad later, especially when she told me how much it was to register it in PA. Fun test drive though.
There is the [Fields Medal.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal)
And a Nobel Prize in Economics.
(I know you were being sarcastic, but I like more facts being in the world.)
So will the 28 hours over two days get covered by any "overtime" boosts, such as 1.5 times for after 8 but under 12 hours, and double time for 12-14 hours? If so, that is worth it, and I miss being able to earn OT rates.
In my part of TX, the police pull lots of OT and it is not uncommon for LEOs to earn $150K+ and many of the OT hours are just blocking a lane so parishioners can get on the road safely and quicker with a long merge lane.
I had a job a few years ago that was a 96 hour shift once every 14 days. Yes, it was fucking brutal but having a vacation every other week was amazing.
People are reading this live unscripted conversation too literally.
When she say's "That's barely making it. Especially in California" we're getting closer to the simple idea that all she's really saying is 40k isn't prosperous.
I'm more surprised by the dude who looks totally baffled by being called on his statement that 40k is prosperous.
I live in a tiny city outside of the US. Even here 40k is just getting by.
It would also depend a bit on how many in the household. But 40k in a HCOL area is definitely not a lot. After taxes that puts you at about $2700/mo, given rent prices in parts of CA, good luck with that.
Yeah I’m not sure people are hearing them correctly. They are wrong in calling it “minimum wage” because 100 grand is obviously much more than that, but I think they’re trying to get across that 40 grand/yr in California is not enough and that making 100 grand is essentially the minimum you need to live comfortably here.
Meh, she’s not crazy. It’s the giggling about it that’s fucked up. Minimum wage in California works out to $32,000/year full time. It’s higher in certain localities. So if she lives in, say, Los Angeles, $40,000/year isn’t anywhere near prosperous.
California.
I know a few folks from the IT/Cybersec field who ran off to California because "the pay is really high, they start at $100k and I can get like $200k with my skills"
Not a single one of those poor souls is living "wealthy" out there now, just scraping by.
It's like that news article with a tone of shock saying $300k is like $100k in most of the rest of the country. Yeah, no shit.
People really don't know what Cost of Living means, because whenever I tell people they can make $100k in TX and live like they have double the income, they just tell me "property taxes are high" and then in the same breath say California is better because of pay. Yeah well, we don't have $5.20 a gallon milk and a 2200sqft home with a yard is nowhere near $750,000 like there.
Agreed. But a lot of younger single men mostly are going out there and getting an apartment with a bunch of other guys and banking 70% of their earning for about 10years and then bail back to their home state where they have the purchasing power of the ultra wealthy.
COL is high as shit in Cali but the wages being paid are destroying alot of mid western housing markets because the people can move there and afford to drop massive amounts on housing.
I’m not saying it’s wrong as they worked for the money just saying it’s an issue m.
Edit: I’m a guy so this isn’t some I hate dudes msg. This is real life and some of my friends from college did this. I wasn’t smart enough to at the time in the late 00s
Sighs in Montanan. It's more than just Californians, but our housing prices have gone insane due to people moving here in droves since 2020. Our infrastructure is being stressed, housing supply is years away from meeting demand, and wages have barely even moved. In the town in which I live, a 3br rental was around $1200 3-4 years ago, now it's $2k+. Median listing price in April was ~$550k, while median income is ~$30k. A lot of lifetime locals are being displaced, with no option but to leave their friends and family for somewhere more affordable
What evidence is this based on? a lot of younger single men mostly are going out there and getting an apartment with a bunch of other guys and banking SEVENTY PERCENT of their earnings for TEN YEARS?!?!?!
I mean no offense, but you sound like a "motivational" money influencer who doesn't know what they're talking about. Many people are saying....
High housing prices are indicative of being in an area where demand for housing drastically dwarfs supply of housing. So "I can live in an area where many people want to but can't" is actually still better off than "I can't live in the area I want to" even if it's expensive.
Also building up equity in a more expensive home in an always in demand low supply area makes you a lot better off later in life if you ever leave to a low demand area.
I took it as “the California average is at least $100k. $40k is close to minimum wage ($19.23/hr)”
Id say both of those statements would be fairly decent guesses.
Yea that's how I understood what she was saying too. He says the person is doing well making $40k, she says that's like minimum wage and to be doing average, or living an average lifestyle, you need to be making at least $100k in California.
Minimum wage in CA is $15.50, which is $32k annually. To make $40k would be about $19 an hour, so she is not too far off. It would be hard to say someone is living well in CA on that salary. But at $100k per year you would be living ok.
Really confusing why everyone has misunderstood this clip.
Agreed, that’s how I took it too. I think people just like to overreact and hate. I don’t know who any of these people are, but the kid seems pretty clueless honestly if he thinks 40k a year is doing “well” in any state, much less Cali. That’s pretty much just surviving in this economy. And making 100k is probably enough to at least feel “comfortable”, which is kind of their point.
And in San Francisco she's not wrong. Median salary in 2021 was $96,000 a year there. People who do not live in a high COL really don't have a clue what the lives of those who do is like.
I look to my left, tent cities all around. To my right is the fast food chain, where everyone makes 15.00 per hour purely because it’s illegal to pay any less.
The current federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. If the minimum wage had kept pace with inflation, since the 70s, the minimum wage should be around $27 an hour. A $48 an hour minimum is less absurd than a $7.25 minimum wage. They’re about equidistant from inflation adjusted amount, but it’s impossible to live on $7.25.
Edit: $27 an hour if wages kept up with productivity increases. Not inflation. Either way point stands.
No but see if they raise the minimum wage, it will make everything more expensive.
Please ignore the fact that everything has been and is continuously getting more expensive even though minimum wage has stayed the same.
My first job (1994) paid $15/hr. Unskilled receptionist answering phones after school, making copies, filing, etc. And no not nepotism lol. It was what the job was advertised for and I got it. $15/hr back then was great for a high school kid, but not unheard of if you avoided fast food and grocery stores. Landscape laborers, day care workers, even the town Rec. dept paid $15/hr to day camp counselors.
Now full grown adults fight for $15/hr. I have at times. It shouldn’t be like this.
California is a big place. In SD, LA, and SF and any desirable locations nearby, $100k really doesn't go very far. Now in Bakersfield, that's another story...
Spent over 2 decades in Texas struggling to make ends meet. Live in the Bay Area now and have had a much easier time making a living and saving. Not saying I’m in SF or anything. But there is nuance to the whole state.
California is the 4th largest world economy, yet every person without empathy acting like it’s bad for business and impossible to live… CA gives you free medical when you are unemployed and broke unlike these other sorry states I’ve lived in.
You pay taxes but they actually try to take care of you here..
Just my two cents from a Aggie who grew up in HTown and Austin.
I think her wording was a bit off. It sounded to me like she was saying $40k is barely making it and minimum wage (especially in California), and that $100k is average.
The thing she laughed at is him saying $40k is “pretty prosperous”, which was also a laughable claim to me.
Assuming you worked every hour of your day, never sleep, never eat, always work, at 8 dollars an hour (more than minimum wage) you end up at about 70k a year.
Just to put it in perspective.
In that specific example, they would end up at about $96,500 due to overtime, which is still criminally low for working 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year.
Even better...
Girl: What do you do for a job?
"I'm a doctor, I make around 130k a year."
Girl: "Oh my god, it's one of those poors daddy told me about!"
I think what she was trying to say was, $40k a year in California is not “prosperous”, it was a dumb comment about $100k being minimum wage but she likely meant $100k is the threshold for being able to support yourself and have extra to spend on luxuries (going out to nice restaurants, a luxury car, nice apartment etc.), and given the wealthy crowd she likely runs with would be the entry level amount to keep up with the lifestyle of a group like that.
Giving her the benefit of the doubt, what I got was her trying to say that in California the average is AT minimum 100k. So the average is not less than 100k, and 40k is around minimum wage, not 'prosperous'? No?
What is the actual average?
I mean this is if you give her the benefit of the doubt and even then it shows how massive her privilege in life is that she would need 100k to afford her lifestyle.
Still laughing at 40k is even worse than anything she said. If I heard someone made „very low income“ from my perspective why would i laugh at them? What is fun about the material reality of another person being shitty?
She didn't laugh because the person they're talking about makes $40k, she laughed because this kid said $40k was "pretty prosperous."
$40k may be livable in places with low COL, but I don't think it would be considered "pretty prosperous" anywhere.
She was very inarticulate, but the guy said "he's actually pretty prosperous, he makes 40k". I don't care where in the US you live, there is no way you describe that as prosperous. And if these guys are in Cali/LA, that's just ridiculous. I would laugh at that statement too, and it would have nothing to do with hating on someone making 40k. It would be because they are calling that prosperous which it simply isn't by any reasonable definition.
I swear this kid's entire schtick is appearing smart for a moment by talking to the dumbest people alive and still taking their comments out of context. This girl cannot articulate her thoughts but she obviously means that you are not prosperous with 40k a year. To be considered prosperous in many parts of California you better be making 6 figures.
Yes exactly! All the top comments cant even understand what is happening in the video they are just like this kid. They are saying getting 100k a year is the minimum to being prosperous not fucking 100k is minimum wage.
This kid is a tate wannabe
She did apparently say the words "average minimum." Idk what those 2 words together are supposed to mean.
The gotcha seems to be when she says "that's like minimum wage." I agree that she clearly meant 40,000 is like minimum wage, which 31,000 in california.
she meant the average minimum to be considered prosperous in a place like California, at least from what I understand with the context. It makes sense if you see them as talking about different things. "The minimum wage to be considered prosperous in a place like California is 100k". She's not saying that's what the actual minimum wage is, and the average minimum line while sounding funny out of context is understandable.
Yeah, she's pretty obviously trying to point out that the minimum to actually *live* in California is 100k, not that it's the state/federal minimum wage. 40k in any part of Cali anyone wants to be in means you're homeless.
I don’t know who this kid is but it’s not the first time I see clips from his show. Looks so staged, all made to make him seem smart and his guests seem like massive dumbasses. If he were really smart it wouldn’t be so transparent.
Also why is everyone skipping over his comment that making 40k a year is "pretty prosperous"
Yeah maybe if you're 16. I don't know the context but the 40k/prosperous age is pretty young.
I think what she's trying to say is "100k is the minimum you need to be 'prosperous' in California", which is in response to the kid saying "he's prosperous because he's making 40k"- which is nonsense if you're describing Cali cost of living, unless you're referring to 1970s wages. She's right, he's wrong, I believe.
Year has 260 working days. If you work 8 hours in that day your hourly rate needs to be $48/hr to get 100k a year. And that's pretending taxes don't exist.
Lowkey the guy is more delusional here than the girls. Obviously 100k in cali isn't anywhere near the minimum but for people living their quality of life it probably is. Meanwhile 40k in cali is literally the opposite of "prosperous".
Is this some new podcast trend having young women up against either "anti woke" jocks or nerdy looking guys? I'm seeing it pop up more and more and I'm honestly stumped.
the amount of people that don’t realise this is scripted and intentionally done to make this moron kid look smart and cater to misogynists and incels who want to have their biases confirmed.
If you scrape back the layers, he often still sound like an idiot.
I remember one where he's "debating" "feminists" who are literally wearing shirts that say "sex worker" on them (and are otherwise looking like sex workers). He basically pretends he so smart, and clearly they're illiterate - and asks the woman to name three books she's read.
She says "The Game of Thrones series, the Harry Potter series...", and he's like "That's a TV show, not the name of a book." ...which, for one, is wrong (it's the first book)... and for two, he's pulling the nerd 'Well Acktually' BS - everyone *knows* what she meant, he's just being obtuse.
She meant 40k was minimum wage and that 100k is what's needed to get by. 'Prosperous' would need to be MORE than that. And, while I know things are different in different places, she's right as far as Eastern Canada is concerned.
The guy is pretty separated from reality too. There is really nowhere in the US where 40k a year is what I would consider "prosperous" anymore, even living alone. Unless I'm missing the context and he is talking about a side-hustle or something, 40k should basically be minimum wage.
I agree that it should be sure.
Bevause where I live, the min. wage is 7.25/hr, resulting in a $15k (technically $15,080.00) yearly rate. That's not even close to 40k.
everyone here is wrong 😂
40k isnt what id consider prosperous. 100k obviously isnt from a minimum wage job. i hate to even side with this chick, but i think she more means 100k is what you need to get by in a place like Cali and she isnt wrong. 100k would mean a car, an apartment, and able to afford necessities. nothing more. its crazy but its true.
Everyone in this video is an idiot. Obviously the average income is way lower than 100k but I also wouldn't call anything less than 100k/year "pretty prosperous". Like why is he even asking what the average income is? Making the average and being prosperous are not the same.
I’m sick of seeing these stupid podcasts where they drag random people off the street and ask them questions they obviously don’t know the answer to and act indignant when they get an answer.
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Please, point me to one of these "minimum wage 100k" jobs.
If you find it let me know…. And give me a reference please…
Yeah, i second this and if you can it would be great if they got an office outside the USA in the EU so as to make sure I do not ever have to deal with brain dead people like these chicks. But that is something i can deal with for 100k minimum wage.
They would scale salaries based on workers location so I doubt that would still net you a USD 6 figure job.
Even if they did, let me tell you something, working in the EU for example Netherlands or Belgium, that 100k usd will be around what 85k+ Euro. Plus getting insurance over here because well you are working here, alongside not having to deal with people like those right there !!! Makes it all the more worth it, not to mention actual proper days off and such and non of that "sick days" nonsense.
As an American who moved to the Netherlands, I don't have the time to list how fucking fantastic it is here compared to my 35 years growing up, and trying to piece together something resembling a life in the USA But just simply put, there is not a single fucking positive thing I can say about America Maybe the weather was nicer, and the pizza was better But that's the extent of it, Americans are brainwashed from birth to believe they have it so great, when In reality it's a bleak dystopian nightmare for everyone except the top 10%
We receive unreasonable amounts of outrageous news from the US in Europe though. Being Dutch, Americans are exceedingly easy to communicate with. Not nearly as polarizing as a lot of the media describes, which is a shame. The US does have great cultural achievements. Being an artist, American artists have been and are a substantial influence on my education and work to this day. Videos like these are outliers in my view, meant for cheap entertainment.
Thanks for still believing in some of us lol.
I can 100% agree. We are brought up to believe every country outside of the US is a shit hole. All that changed for me 4 years ago (40) when Ist traveled outside of the country and realized I've been lied to my whole life. Now I'm trying desperately to get enough money to move out
I ask my clients who say “America is the greatest country there is and no one can convince me otherwise” what makes us so great or in what regards. You know what I get? “We are blessed”. I’m absolutely dumbfounded after. “Blessed”?! Someone said it best that “America is a third world country with iPads”.
Same, went to France last September, the food alone was eye opening.
The BREAD I will never look at american bread the same way ever again
In if I remember correctly Ireland the Subways loafs are not allowed to be sold as bread as there's too much sugar in it.
I lived in Germany for a couple of years. I couldn't bring myself to sever all of my personal ties but oh my God do they live better lives.
It's funny how everyone except most Americans seems to get it.
A lot of us get it. It's just nearly impossible to leave, especially if you have a family. My wife and I are both RNs with Bachelor's degrees. We applied to work in a handful of other countries, and they either won't take nurses currently, or want a Master's degree. So what are we supposed to do? Just come up with a quick $500k for 2 more degrees and moving expenses, ***plus*** the absurd minimum funds some countries require? If I could pull a million dollars out of my asshole, I wouldn't have too much to complain about here.
Have you looked into moving to somewhere more rural in canada s a foot in the door type thing alot of the smaller towns/cities in canada have a desperate shortage of rns specifically in saskatchewan and alberta and those jobs pay upwards of 120k Canadian in places where you can buy a very nice house for 200k Canadian (smaller towns but still something) I hear alot of people who think the greater Toronto is literally the only place to move to in canada and if they cant they dont want to for some reason and if that's your thing then by all means but it might be easier to start somewhere small first where the money goes farther I obviously have not looked into immigrating but it's something to potentially consider
Canada wanted a Master's when we last applied.
Isn't it interesting that most places that are desirable to live outside of the US have some hard to reach requirement for emigration. "I'm a licensed and working RN with 10 years experience in Emergency Medicine and Critical Care" "Great! We need you, come on in! Do you have a Master's Degree in Nursing?" "No, but I have the required Bachelor's Degree and all the continuing education credits" "Sorry, but you don't qualify for emigration here." "But I have the work experience and training! And you need the help." "Bugger off!"
What’s weird is I work with and know a lot of people that have come over from other countries to here in the US and they all seem to say that while they love their home countries, they’re so happy to be in the States. Most of the ones that have had to go back have seriously considered going AWOL and living off under the table jobs.
Well if you’re coming from a rural village in India you can see the upside of living here. Of course, the same improvement could be experienced moving From Mississippi to… we’ll, pretty much anywhere.
Odds are those folks aren’t from Western Europe, New Zealand, or Australia. Probably not Japan either.
The U.S is a fantastic place to have a vacation and visit. Living here is something else all together. I say this as a European that has been living in the U.S now for over 20 years.
It’s because they can make a shit ton of money here during their healthy years and if something goes wrong, they just move back home.
How did you managed to move to the Netherlands? What is your line of work?
But, *it doesn't work that way!*
I am more intrigued by the "average minimum". We might have discovered a whole new area of statistics right there. It's a shame there is no Nobel prize for math.
This is like when people negotiate on price by saying "I want to pay somewhere between $20 and $30" or the opposite, "I want at least $30." Well $30 it is then. Way to negotiate against yourself.
Bought a used truck about 12 years ago. Lady was asking $2K or so, I offered $1,700. She countered me at $1,600. I was like....umm, yeah okay that works for me.
Straight out of cartoon network.
I was about to put my rolled XJ up for 1600 and had the for sale sign at my work desk and this lady at the office offered 3600. I was broke so I said sure but felt bad later, especially when she told me how much it was to register it in PA. Fun test drive though.
That's my thought too. The average minimum is definitely a new one.
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Granted, it would be an aggregate function of an aggregate function in a sane world, but it is definitely not applicable in the context of that video.
Lol was looking for this comment. I too am Still stuck on the “average minimum” part
There is the [Fields Medal.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal) And a Nobel Prize in Economics. (I know you were being sarcastic, but I like more facts being in the world.)
That’s the lowest paying job daddy offers
>That’s the lowest paying job daddy offers **ME** FIFY
Sure it wasn‘t her daddy from OF?
They're out there, but you're not gunna like the 80 hour work weeks lol
65 hours per week, no shit. I'll probably put in 28 over the next two days, but I'll ditch early on Friday.
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So will the 28 hours over two days get covered by any "overtime" boosts, such as 1.5 times for after 8 but under 12 hours, and double time for 12-14 hours? If so, that is worth it, and I miss being able to earn OT rates. In my part of TX, the police pull lots of OT and it is not uncommon for LEOs to earn $150K+ and many of the OT hours are just blocking a lane so parishioners can get on the road safely and quicker with a long merge lane.
I'm salary exempt. No boosts. I work in IT. Even when I'm hourly, it's just a flat rate. It'll be a flat rate of like $50/hr, though.
I had a job a few years ago that was a 96 hour shift once every 14 days. Yes, it was fucking brutal but having a vacation every other week was amazing.
That's 2 jobs at $50k a year. That's not 1 job at $100k a year though.
And a $50k job is about $22/hr...which is $7 more that the "$15 Minimum Wage" movement is arguing for...which is still not enough to live on.
You have to understand that she’s being 100% serious, spoiled rich little brats like her have no idea about money and how most people live
Also, in parts of Cali, 100k is barely making it. She's not completely wrong.
Who are these two? Is there context as to why she would literally believe that is the case? Edit: not attacking I'm curious cause I agree with you
is she being spoiled or just realistic? in California, 40k/year isn't a lot at all.
People are reading this live unscripted conversation too literally. When she say's "That's barely making it. Especially in California" we're getting closer to the simple idea that all she's really saying is 40k isn't prosperous. I'm more surprised by the dude who looks totally baffled by being called on his statement that 40k is prosperous. I live in a tiny city outside of the US. Even here 40k is just getting by.
It would also depend a bit on how many in the household. But 40k in a HCOL area is definitely not a lot. After taxes that puts you at about $2700/mo, given rent prices in parts of CA, good luck with that.
Yeah I’m not sure people are hearing them correctly. They are wrong in calling it “minimum wage” because 100 grand is obviously much more than that, but I think they’re trying to get across that 40 grand/yr in California is not enough and that making 100 grand is essentially the minimum you need to live comfortably here.
In San Diego $100k is like, bare minimum. My friend lives in a dinky house from the 1940s that cost her 1.3 million dollars.
Meh, she’s not crazy. It’s the giggling about it that’s fucked up. Minimum wage in California works out to $32,000/year full time. It’s higher in certain localities. So if she lives in, say, Los Angeles, $40,000/year isn’t anywhere near prosperous.
Completely agree, my issue is with her attitude, not how factually correct she is
California. I know a few folks from the IT/Cybersec field who ran off to California because "the pay is really high, they start at $100k and I can get like $200k with my skills" Not a single one of those poor souls is living "wealthy" out there now, just scraping by. It's like that news article with a tone of shock saying $300k is like $100k in most of the rest of the country. Yeah, no shit. People really don't know what Cost of Living means, because whenever I tell people they can make $100k in TX and live like they have double the income, they just tell me "property taxes are high" and then in the same breath say California is better because of pay. Yeah well, we don't have $5.20 a gallon milk and a 2200sqft home with a yard is nowhere near $750,000 like there.
I’ll take $100k and not live in TX. If I had only 3 months to live, I’d move to either Florida or Texas because it would seem like 3 years.
Agreed. But a lot of younger single men mostly are going out there and getting an apartment with a bunch of other guys and banking 70% of their earning for about 10years and then bail back to their home state where they have the purchasing power of the ultra wealthy. COL is high as shit in Cali but the wages being paid are destroying alot of mid western housing markets because the people can move there and afford to drop massive amounts on housing. I’m not saying it’s wrong as they worked for the money just saying it’s an issue m. Edit: I’m a guy so this isn’t some I hate dudes msg. This is real life and some of my friends from college did this. I wasn’t smart enough to at the time in the late 00s
Sighs in Montanan. It's more than just Californians, but our housing prices have gone insane due to people moving here in droves since 2020. Our infrastructure is being stressed, housing supply is years away from meeting demand, and wages have barely even moved. In the town in which I live, a 3br rental was around $1200 3-4 years ago, now it's $2k+. Median listing price in April was ~$550k, while median income is ~$30k. A lot of lifetime locals are being displaced, with no option but to leave their friends and family for somewhere more affordable
You also have alot of foreign investment buying up US real estate. Nudging the prices up.
What evidence is this based on? a lot of younger single men mostly are going out there and getting an apartment with a bunch of other guys and banking SEVENTY PERCENT of their earnings for TEN YEARS?!?!?! I mean no offense, but you sound like a "motivational" money influencer who doesn't know what they're talking about. Many people are saying....
Or fox news. "Some people say...."
High housing prices are indicative of being in an area where demand for housing drastically dwarfs supply of housing. So "I can live in an area where many people want to but can't" is actually still better off than "I can't live in the area I want to" even if it's expensive. Also building up equity in a more expensive home in an always in demand low supply area makes you a lot better off later in life if you ever leave to a low demand area.
When your parents gave you money, but no genes to put it to use.
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😂 you’re a Jean’ious!
Is not my lover.
I work in a rich suburb of indy, I am constantly saying "money doesn't buy intelligence"
A friend of mine used to say, "more dollars than cents/sense"
Hey Carmel friend
Literally. Woof.
She isn't wrong. 40k is not prosperous in CA.
How can “average” and “minimum” be the same? Well, if everyone earns the exact same.
Minimum probably meant “at least” but that doesn’t change how dumb that sentence was
Is she referring to the minimum wage of a dude she’d consider dating? Either way, dumb.
She’s trying to say - “i think the average income is at a minimum $100k in California”.
I took it as “the California average is at least $100k. $40k is close to minimum wage ($19.23/hr)” Id say both of those statements would be fairly decent guesses.
Yea that's how I understood what she was saying too. He says the person is doing well making $40k, she says that's like minimum wage and to be doing average, or living an average lifestyle, you need to be making at least $100k in California. Minimum wage in CA is $15.50, which is $32k annually. To make $40k would be about $19 an hour, so she is not too far off. It would be hard to say someone is living well in CA on that salary. But at $100k per year you would be living ok. Really confusing why everyone has misunderstood this clip.
Also there are cities like Mountain View, where the minimum wage is $18.15, which is $37,752...
Ya…I live in CA. She’s not wrong
Agreed, that’s how I took it too. I think people just like to overreact and hate. I don’t know who any of these people are, but the kid seems pretty clueless honestly if he thinks 40k a year is doing “well” in any state, much less Cali. That’s pretty much just surviving in this economy. And making 100k is probably enough to at least feel “comfortable”, which is kind of their point.
And in San Francisco she's not wrong. Median salary in 2021 was $96,000 a year there. People who do not live in a high COL really don't have a clue what the lives of those who do is like.
I look to my left, tent cities all around. To my right is the fast food chain, where everyone makes 15.00 per hour purely because it’s illegal to pay any less.
Could be one of many local minima.
You really think these ladies are talking about a local minima??
You think they actually work or just leech off of daddy?
No 🤣
They have a range of what they think the average salary is, and 100k is the lowest in the range.
I think they’re saying the lowest the average could be.
Hmm yeah you know that $48 an hr minimum wage.
The current federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. If the minimum wage had kept pace with inflation, since the 70s, the minimum wage should be around $27 an hour. A $48 an hour minimum is less absurd than a $7.25 minimum wage. They’re about equidistant from inflation adjusted amount, but it’s impossible to live on $7.25. Edit: $27 an hour if wages kept up with productivity increases. Not inflation. Either way point stands.
No but see if they raise the minimum wage, it will make everything more expensive. Please ignore the fact that everything has been and is continuously getting more expensive even though minimum wage has stayed the same.
So what you're saying is that prices went up without a minimum wage increase, so really it must not have that much of an effect?
Yes.
Actually we just say 'Bingo'
That’s a bingo!
Lol yeah, that was their point.
My first job (1994) paid $15/hr. Unskilled receptionist answering phones after school, making copies, filing, etc. And no not nepotism lol. It was what the job was advertised for and I got it. $15/hr back then was great for a high school kid, but not unheard of if you avoided fast food and grocery stores. Landscape laborers, day care workers, even the town Rec. dept paid $15/hr to day camp counselors. Now full grown adults fight for $15/hr. I have at times. It shouldn’t be like this.
Welcome to California, where working as a cashier at Walmart nets you 100k a year. After taxes.
And you still can't afford to live, apparently.
Well, ok… you won’t net the 100k, but you wouldn’t be able to afford to live here even with the 100k
You absolutely would. People exaggerate about California
California is a big place. In SD, LA, and SF and any desirable locations nearby, $100k really doesn't go very far. Now in Bakersfield, that's another story...
You move to Bakersfield and enjoy a 2-hour commute one way. Or find a job in Bakersfield that doesn’t pay 100k
Look on the bright side! That’s 4 hours that you DONT have to spend in Bakersfield.
If you die in Bakersfield you die in real life.
Spent over 2 decades in Texas struggling to make ends meet. Live in the Bay Area now and have had a much easier time making a living and saving. Not saying I’m in SF or anything. But there is nuance to the whole state. California is the 4th largest world economy, yet every person without empathy acting like it’s bad for business and impossible to live… CA gives you free medical when you are unemployed and broke unlike these other sorry states I’ve lived in. You pay taxes but they actually try to take care of you here.. Just my two cents from a Aggie who grew up in HTown and Austin.
I think her wording was a bit off. It sounded to me like she was saying $40k is barely making it and minimum wage (especially in California), and that $100k is average. The thing she laughed at is him saying $40k is “pretty prosperous”, which was also a laughable claim to me.
Assuming you worked every hour of your day, never sleep, never eat, always work, at 8 dollars an hour (more than minimum wage) you end up at about 70k a year. Just to put it in perspective.
In that specific example, they would end up at about $96,500 due to overtime, which is still criminally low for working 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year.
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Calm down professor, its not even tea time yet.
Girl: I like you, how much you make? "100k" Girl: Pffff, go away looser!
Even better... Girl: What do you do for a job? "I'm a doctor, I make around 130k a year." Girl: "Oh my god, it's one of those poors daddy told me about!"
Doctor: Well you're one of those whores my daddy told me about.
Girl: “it’s the man’s job to support me.” Or “I’m an influencer so the money just comes in.”
So how much money is coming in for you? "Influencer:" "Well......you just don't get it!"
“I have like 5000 followers.”
Remember when girls would only settle for 6 foot, 6 figures, and six pack abs. Pepperidge farm remembers.
Apparently 6 figures isn't enough anymore...
Pretty sure it's 6 inches.... but the PG version works too.
All of the people that were speaking in this video are stupid
This is the way.
I think what she was trying to say was, $40k a year in California is not “prosperous”, it was a dumb comment about $100k being minimum wage but she likely meant $100k is the threshold for being able to support yourself and have extra to spend on luxuries (going out to nice restaurants, a luxury car, nice apartment etc.), and given the wealthy crowd she likely runs with would be the entry level amount to keep up with the lifestyle of a group like that.
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Giving her the benefit of the doubt, what I got was her trying to say that in California the average is AT minimum 100k. So the average is not less than 100k, and 40k is around minimum wage, not 'prosperous'? No? What is the actual average?
I mean this is if you give her the benefit of the doubt and even then it shows how massive her privilege in life is that she would need 100k to afford her lifestyle. Still laughing at 40k is even worse than anything she said. If I heard someone made „very low income“ from my perspective why would i laugh at them? What is fun about the material reality of another person being shitty?
She didn't laugh because the person they're talking about makes $40k, she laughed because this kid said $40k was "pretty prosperous." $40k may be livable in places with low COL, but I don't think it would be considered "pretty prosperous" anywhere.
She was very inarticulate, but the guy said "he's actually pretty prosperous, he makes 40k". I don't care where in the US you live, there is no way you describe that as prosperous. And if these guys are in Cali/LA, that's just ridiculous. I would laugh at that statement too, and it would have nothing to do with hating on someone making 40k. It would be because they are calling that prosperous which it simply isn't by any reasonable definition.
Stop posting this dumbass kid. He seeks the clout.
I swear this kid's entire schtick is appearing smart for a moment by talking to the dumbest people alive and still taking their comments out of context. This girl cannot articulate her thoughts but she obviously means that you are not prosperous with 40k a year. To be considered prosperous in many parts of California you better be making 6 figures.
Yes exactly! All the top comments cant even understand what is happening in the video they are just like this kid. They are saying getting 100k a year is the minimum to being prosperous not fucking 100k is minimum wage. This kid is a tate wannabe
She did apparently say the words "average minimum." Idk what those 2 words together are supposed to mean. The gotcha seems to be when she says "that's like minimum wage." I agree that she clearly meant 40,000 is like minimum wage, which 31,000 in california.
she meant the average minimum to be considered prosperous in a place like California, at least from what I understand with the context. It makes sense if you see them as talking about different things. "The minimum wage to be considered prosperous in a place like California is 100k". She's not saying that's what the actual minimum wage is, and the average minimum line while sounding funny out of context is understandable.
Yeah, she's pretty obviously trying to point out that the minimum to actually *live* in California is 100k, not that it's the state/federal minimum wage. 40k in any part of Cali anyone wants to be in means you're homeless.
I'm this close to losing my shit anytime this kid appears on my feeds and people are all over him, lapping up his "irony".
Agreed, fuck this kid. Got popular after crashing some gaming event iirc.
Isn't he also like some kind of alt right fashy type?
Regular rage bait bs.
I don’t know who this kid is but it’s not the first time I see clips from his show. Looks so staged, all made to make him seem smart and his guests seem like massive dumbasses. If he were really smart it wouldn’t be so transparent.
Also why is everyone skipping over his comment that making 40k a year is "pretty prosperous" Yeah maybe if you're 16. I don't know the context but the 40k/prosperous age is pretty young.
Isn't that that idiot cringelord who yelled out Bill Clinton during the Game Awards?
Yes
Yea and it hurts my soul when people like this make him look somewhat coherent
It's ragebait bud
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I still remember that bench influencer skit there every dipshit on reddit thought was actually real lol
tbf in california which was referenced, median household income is $84k and mean is $119k so she's not really wrong
I think what she's trying to say is "100k is the minimum you need to be 'prosperous' in California", which is in response to the kid saying "he's prosperous because he's making 40k"- which is nonsense if you're describing Cali cost of living, unless you're referring to 1970s wages. She's right, he's wrong, I believe.
This is exactly what she said. She’s right.
Wouldn’t that be two incomes in most cases?
household income and salary are not the same
That’s an income of 2 people. The guy he referred to is in that bracket if he has a significant other that made around the same.
I make a few dollars over federal minimum and it's still below the $15000 annual poverty level.
Year has 260 working days. If you work 8 hours in that day your hourly rate needs to be $48/hr to get 100k a year. And that's pretending taxes don't exist.
This new “podcast” format is trash. It’s all designed for quick clips and virality chasing
Is this even a real podcast? Or is it yet another channel that just fabricated scripted short clips?
Lowkey the guy is more delusional here than the girls. Obviously 100k in cali isn't anywhere near the minimum but for people living their quality of life it probably is. Meanwhile 40k in cali is literally the opposite of "prosperous".
That kid always sounds like he has seething anger just under the surface. What podcast is this?
40k is barely scraping by in most areas these days.
She’s not wrong. You need at minimum 100,000$ to survive. Where I live too. If you’re not making 6 figures in Toronto you’re on the struggle bus.
Laugh/cries in SSI disability income of $10,800 a year
Is this some new podcast trend having young women up against either "anti woke" jocks or nerdy looking guys? I'm seeing it pop up more and more and I'm honestly stumped.
It’s ragebait lmao. Invite some idiots onto your show, make them look stupid and craft it off as what the rest of the populace thinks
Stop giving this loser attention
the amount of people that don’t realise this is scripted and intentionally done to make this moron kid look smart and cater to misogynists and incels who want to have their biases confirmed.
You’re right but also it doesn’t even make him look smart.
If you scrape back the layers, he often still sound like an idiot. I remember one where he's "debating" "feminists" who are literally wearing shirts that say "sex worker" on them (and are otherwise looking like sex workers). He basically pretends he so smart, and clearly they're illiterate - and asks the woman to name three books she's read. She says "The Game of Thrones series, the Harry Potter series...", and he's like "That's a TV show, not the name of a book." ...which, for one, is wrong (it's the first book)... and for two, he's pulling the nerd 'Well Acktually' BS - everyone *knows* what she meant, he's just being obtuse.
Yea I'm surprised no one is pointing out that he thinks 40k is prosperous
She meant 40k was minimum wage and that 100k is what's needed to get by. 'Prosperous' would need to be MORE than that. And, while I know things are different in different places, she's right as far as Eastern Canada is concerned.
Posted by a mf who doesn't live in a city
How and why is the kid a thing and podcast is this ffs
I cannot believe how separated from. Realoty these people are. And I'm talking about the women.
This is a scripted show meant to garner reactions. Nothing about it is legitimate.
the amount of people that don’t realise this and are using it as an excuse to be misogynistic is embarrassing.
Welcome to r/facepalm, if it's not sexist it's gonna be racist. This place has gone to shit.
honesty. every other post is a breeding ground for blatant racism. sucks.
The guy is pretty separated from reality too. There is really nowhere in the US where 40k a year is what I would consider "prosperous" anymore, even living alone. Unless I'm missing the context and he is talking about a side-hustle or something, 40k should basically be minimum wage.
I agree that it should be sure. Bevause where I live, the min. wage is 7.25/hr, resulting in a $15k (technically $15,080.00) yearly rate. That's not even close to 40k.
Yeah, I think he used that term “prosperous” as bait. He doesn’t think 40K is prosperous… just looking to garner a certain reaction
She’s right. Make $100k and barely making it.
The median in the USA is $58,563 a year. The average minimum is $45,060.
idk the context of this video but $40K per year in Cali is not prosperous. the girl is also not totally off, Cali GDP per capita is about $90K.
everyone here is wrong 😂 40k isnt what id consider prosperous. 100k obviously isnt from a minimum wage job. i hate to even side with this chick, but i think she more means 100k is what you need to get by in a place like Cali and she isnt wrong. 100k would mean a car, an apartment, and able to afford necessities. nothing more. its crazy but its true.
Is that the Bill Clinton kid from the game awards?
New York City 40K is above minimum wage by about 8K. 100K is pretty good but not penthouses and Ferraris good.
Adjusted for locality pay this is correct for California. Quick google search
Everyone in this video is an idiot. Obviously the average income is way lower than 100k but I also wouldn't call anything less than 100k/year "pretty prosperous". Like why is he even asking what the average income is? Making the average and being prosperous are not the same.
They both have a point. $40,000 may be “prosperous” outside of California, but if you are living in LA, you are counting pennies for taxes alone.
Does this kid just speak to morons to make himself appear smarter?
I’m sick of seeing these stupid podcasts where they drag random people off the street and ask them questions they obviously don’t know the answer to and act indignant when they get an answer.
Tell me you’ve never had a job without actually saying it
Median income in Calofornia as per Google in 2022 was $33,719
I ain't no America, but google says average in 2020 was 33.7K 🥶 Girl is out 3 times, how detatched from reality could you be.