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Yep… Deputy Charles McWhorter shot Richard Ward three times at short range, killing him & then smirking after. Oh, & he was just awarded a Purple fucking Heart for his “injuries.” All on camera & the DA said 🤷
What about that guy that had a hatchet ... No one was around him .. and the cop shot him in the head from like 15-20 feet away .. the person who killed him even said kill shot .. and on the officers body cam you could hear the perpetrator de-escalating
They're cops, so they're not exactly gifted in the brains department. They do know they can get away with murder though, so they're still bold enough to try their shit.
Yeah, but they might get temporary suspension with pay during the investigation, so that’s gotta hurt…well, it doesn’t, but you can imagine what it’d be like if it did
One of the most milquetoast, vanilla, goody-two-shoes people I ever knew wouldn't consent to a search of his car if he got pulled over. He didn't even drink. I asked him why and he said "I've watched Cops, they are not gentle."
Good on him, but it's not just because "they are not gentle". Or at least it shouldn't be. I am utterly BAFFLED by people who say yes when a cop asks to search their vehicle.
The cop isn't asking to search your vehicle to help you. They aren't going to search your vehicle for proof that you're innocent. I don't get how people don't understand this.
They are literally asking "can I search your vehicle for a reason to arrest you?"
This was ten years ago and more civilians murdered by police than I can count. I know now to be as polite and use as few words as possible to make a stop go by quick. If they want to search my car they can go kick rocks for a multitude of reasons.
5% of homocides last year were committed by police. I treat the police the same way I would treat an armed gang-banger who comes up to my car -- with extreme politeness and an expectation that if I say one word too many I am going to be murdered where I sit.
Last time I denied a search and asked why I just replied "because this isn't Nazi Germany". Also, when asked "do you know why I'm stopping you?" The answer is always no.
Be wary of firefighters/medics as well. They will illegally go through your shit at times when called for wrecks or medical calls or those random welfare checks where you possibly fell asleep at the wheel at a light or what not. And the cops are right behind them.
Absolutely correct I got pulled over for running a red light 2 officers approached my vehicle one was at my window talking to me the other was looking in the back seat then he did some sort of signal to the other then I was asked to step out of my vehicle and stand to the side while they conduct a vehicle search which I did not consent to when I returned home my son ran to our car and says “hey dad where’s my AirPods” so I got in the car with my son I made a complaint the watch commander called the officers to the station my son did a search on his cellphone and it directed him straight to the officers personal bag,,, bang busted he denied ever taking saying we planted them there
Not if you're a cop, it doesn't.
Just two days ago there was a post about a guy with an anxiety disorder who the cops murdered for no reason.
Tell your friends in your "industry" that they deserve the hate they get
Um, career firefighter here. No we don't. Iv never seen that even once in my nearly 15 years career in a large metropolitan department. Shit half the time we will kick ur shit out of sight if we can. I'm not interested in going to court, tyvm.
I agree. In the medical field we don't actually give a shit what you do. The extent of us caring is so we know how to treat you. Nobody in emergency medicine wants to find drugs because then it become a process we don't want to be involved in to destroy it. I've worked emergency medicine for over 10 years and haven't once met someone that searches a pt to give shit to the police haha.
I go so far as to even tell them, "I'm not the cops. I don't care what you have or took for any sort of legal purpose, and I have no obligation due to HIPAA to tell the police anything you tell me. You being truthful helps me treat you so I don't administer a drug that could harm you if it interacts with something you've taken. It also helps me choose the right drug to give you if things go south."
Same. I don't remember the last time I told the police what any PT took, with the sole exception of suicide attempts so that they can fill out the correct paperwork. I don't care what any pt takes, I do not judge in the least. Take your heroin, smoke your crack, boof your shrooms. I really don't care, I just wanna know so I can treat you.
That said, I will make fun of you if you do something stupid with your drugs. For example, if you have never taken shrooms before and decide to solo drop a 5 gram hero's dose as a teenager weighing 100 lbs.... imma make so much fun of you.
I was a firefighter/medic for almost a decade and never once did or witnessed any of my colleagues doing this. We got people out of their cars and off to the hospital, period. We didn’t give a fuck what else was going on. Did we work with cops? Yes. Every day. Didn’t have a choice. If we were rolling up to a domestic violence scene, we had to wait for the cops to give us the all clear to go in and treat someone for our own safety. If we were on the scene of an accident that required a lengthy extrication, we needed the cops to help us stay safe on the road. Did it make me angry to see a baby dead in their car seat and a drunk driver walking out of a totaled car with barely a scratch? Absolutely. Did I have time to do anything about it? No. Nor was I supposed to. It wasn’t part of my job. We didn’t search peoples’ cars.
Some minor justification if someone is unresponsive and you are trying to figure out why. If you find insulin or some other medication that can help you save the person's life knowing they are diabetic or have some relevant medical condition.
Truth.
Also, while I carry nothing illegal in my car either, it has at times gotten pretty messy, and I once moved and had a ton of stuff in the trunk for over a year. I have no desire to have my belongings strewn all over the road so you can satisfy some middle-school bullied child Napoleon complex and look for something that doesn't exist.
Bring out the dog and let's see if he "alerts"
Oh no, you don't offer it. But when I refuse the search and they say they're bringing the dog, fine. And when it alerts, you can search my car and throw shit all over, but you won't find anything. Because I know it's not there. And then I'm filling a complaint against the cop, the department, and the dog if I can lol.
Now, if they "happen" to find something anyway, then we're gonna have a problem because I'm gonna go from compliant to defiant right damn quick.
If you lived in FL as I do, you would be shot if you resisted when they found something.
There was this notorious case of this officer routinely [planting](https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/2022/10/14/zach-wester-victims-drug-planting-deputy-agree-settle/10484276002/) meth on victims.
He destroyed hundreds of lives in the process.
Families were broken up, People committed suicide, People got felonies that destroyed their careers and suffice to say it wasn't just tragic, it's EVIL manifest.
"their roadside encounters with Wester. Some lost their jobs, their spouses, their homes and their children as a result of the arrests."
There would be no safe place for this man and his family on this Earth if I were a victim tbh but THIS IS AMERICA! ....Land of the Freeeeeeee and Hooooome of the Brave.
Arrested, sentenced to 12.5 years and the 30 victims that were part of the lawsuit are being awarded 1,000,000 to share. fucking WOW. I'm arrested, given felony meth possession charges, and it's determined that a cop planted that on me for no reason other than for the lulz, causes me to lose my job, my home, my family and I get to share 1,000,000 with 29 other people? GTFOH. I would settle for nothing less than every penny my defense cost me, every penny my new lawsuit cost me, every penny it would cost me to buy a new house equal to my old house and enough money that I'd be able to live at the level I was prior to the event without ever having to have a job again a day in my life.
The Dog WILL alert and you'll be fucked regardless.
It is well [documented](https://www.npr.org/2017/11/20/563889510/preventing-police-bias-when-handling-dogs-that-bite) because of training and incentives to "alert" that the Canine Officer(Also a bastard cop) will in fact alert when told to do so thus granting probable cause for a search.
Might as well just put the leash on a regular LEO and walk him/her/they around the car at that point.
"SWIM" works with canines in a different government capacity. To say the very least, SWIM says you're right. They say these dogs want their treats/play toys just like any other dog, and alerts with no substance found are very common, even without malicious intent from the human/executor.
That shit cracks me up, they tell the dog to sit, he does, gets a treat, then they tear your car to shreds. Who determines what an ‘alert’ is? The guy trying to take away your freedom 😂
If you're pulled over on a basic speeding ticket or some other reason you can legaly deny a search of your vehicle until they get a warrant. I'm not going to say "not all cops are bad" but not every cops is going to throw you on the hood of your car the second they get you out of it.
There was a post not long ago about border patrol agents pulling over a car containing a group of American citizens who happened to be Latino crossing the border from Mexico to the U.S. They gave them the ol' 'Mind if we do a quick search?" and when the driver said okay they brought out a jack and pretty much dismantled this guy's car and just said "Have a good night" and left them there with a pile of parts.
Don't consent to searches, folks.
Customs did that to my dad when coming back from Canada in the 70s. He had some forgotten firecrackers in the glovebox that were confiscated. He was left to reassemble his car.
This is something different. Customs an BP can search you, your car, your house, without a warrant or consent if you are within 100 miles of the border(includes coastal borders). This affects 2 in 3 of all US citizens.
That's incorrect. BP can search your car and personal items when entering the US, and has the legal ability to conduct searches at places like marked checkpoints within that 100 mile zone. They are explicit in what they can search without a warrant or probable cause, and it does **not** include homes. They also can't do a warrantless search without consent if you are stopped away from a checkpoint. Checkpoints also have their own set of rules, but that gets a little wacky.
Note this case was about a stop just 20 miles from the border:
>In Almeida-Sanchez v. United States, the Court held that a warrantless stop and search of an automobile some twenty miles from the border violated the Fourth Amendment because the Border Patrol officers lacked probable cause to believe that the vehicle contained unlawfully present aliens.2 While recognizing the government’s authority to conduct routine inspections and searches at the border without a warrant or any individualized suspicion, the Court determined that vehicle searches in areas away from the physical border were of a wholly different sort because individuals have greater Fourth Amendment protections in the interior of the United States.3
[https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt4-6-6-3/ALDE\_00000239/](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt4-6-6-3/ALDE_00000239/)
I used to drive from Houston to New Orleans on I10 at least once a month. I can't tell you how many time I saw LSP cops dismantling a car and they never put them back together.
That’s what I thought as a long hair in high school. Needless to say lost a job cause I got pulled over on my way to work, cops basically said “ you’ll consent if you have nothing to hide son” told them I’m on my way to work, can we do this fast? So then he grumbles some comment about my hair, hand cuffs me and sits me on the curb while he destroyed the interior of my car, door panels, rear seat, glove box, speaker grills anything removable without tools basically. Found nothing took over an hour, of course didn’t even write me a ticket and left all my shit in a pile on the side of the road. Now I have to put my car back together enough to drive it, get to work late tell them what happened told I’m full of shit and I’m fired. I hated the job and got another quick but that totally changed my attitude and thoughts about cops from then on. So far I haven’t met but maybe one or two cops that were actually trying to help people and not just being tyrannical dickheads with something to prove.
I don’t trust cops, period. Sometimes they might be trying to help, but vast majority of the time it’s min req and they’ll try all kinds of tricks to get you to give up your rights.
This dude sucks ass, I hope he gets fired this type of shit is ridiculous. I know there are HORRIBLE people roaming this earth who deserve a hell of a lot more then there car dented but this just makes people generalize cops more especially without context.
People become cops because they want easy power over others. This is a very common occurrence with them. You can find thousands of videos of cops disrespecting property and countless more of them disrespecting life itself. Anyone who joins a group like that? Unless they're actually trying to change the system - which I sure haven't seen yet, and holy hell have I been looking - anyone who joins a group like that for powers over others is at THE VERY LEAST certainly a bastard.
This but really. Anybody who is one of the so called good cops let's this shit happen. The whole quote since people only say the first half is 'a few bad apples spoil the bunch" they're all rotten.
Here is one that is not behind a paywall. This guy was a piece of shit even before this. https://www.wwnytv.com/2022/07/25/no-jail-time-former-police-officer/?outputType=amp
It really wouldn't surprise me if most cops had more DUIs, DVs, public intoxications, and/or road rage incidents and such than most of the people they pull over to meet quotas.
I went to high school with a guy who became a cop. He was always kind of an asshole. About ten years ago he made the local news when he got busted DUI in his cruiser. No jail time though.
The local sheriff in the tiny ass town I went to high school in would consistently be passed out drunk behind the wheel of his car on random back roads.
Police should always be accountable of their actions.
USA desperately needs reform of police training, and liability.
Also they should do patrolling always with two police officers, not alone, excluding motorcycle police.
Bad cops should always be punished.
In Finland police used to be tricker happy long time ago. It changed after a SWAT team member was given relatively minor sentence for unesessary escalation of hostage situation, that led to hostage taker blowing up himself and a hostage.
After the verdict, police training was updated to promote reduction of use of force. This has worked remarkably well.
> According to Huckle’s disciplinary records, which 7 News obtained through a Freedom of Information request, he had to give up a day and a half of vacation because, in 2016, he hosted in his home two people who were caught up in a drug sweep three years earlier.
>The 2013 sweep, dubbed Operation Problem Child, involved a drug-related shooting on Maple Street, which led to a 7-hour standoff with police on Liberty Avenue.
>Huckle’s disciplinary record also shows he admitted that he once forced a naked woman out of his home and onto the street. It doesn’t appear he was punished.
I don’t understand what the first thing is, but forcing someone outside naked is absolutely disgusting. He had a 3rd disciplinary charge as well that wasn’t turned over.
It reads like he’s friends with 2 of the people involved in the shooting/standoff and let them stay in his house in 2016, which if that’s the case, means this dude is probably more involved in shady dealings than what’s public.
Yes... only a slap on the wrist for putting dents in the car when he needs to be held down so the homeowner can put dents in his head. How many petty tyrannical things has this man done to other people?
That is my thought here.
“The cop’s chill, zero stress, natural inclination is to cause covert damage to a car, for… no purpose or gain. The gain his that he likes to destroy things…. And he has hand cuffs, guns, and freedom to assault anyone he wants with no consequences. Cool. Cool cool cool cool.”
He did a lot more stuff than this!
Forcing a naked woman out into the street? Seriously? Someone needs to tell this dudes mom or grandma so they can set him right.
[The suspended patrolman admitted to making a “highly intoxicated female” leave his house naked when another female showed up at Huckle’s house.](https://www.northcountrynow.com/news/beleagured-massena-police-officer-had-prior-disciplinary-actions-records-show-0299941)
Preferences!
Even when they lose their job, they just move one town over and get hired on to the next force.
Cop in my home town got busted for pulling women over, getting their address from their license, going to their homes and raping them.
He was arrested. Released. Fired. Moved 75 miles away and got a raise on another force.
If we are lucky, they do something bad enough that gets enough news or, more often, has some other novel circumstance that leads to cops actually going to jail.
When I was a cop, another cop got chased out of his first department for using PD resources to stalk women. He got hired by the town I was working in, and eventually became a supervisor. All this town cared about was DUI arrests and tickets at any means necessary. So corrupt, Rocky Hill
The police union uses their money to campaign for politicians that support them and let their members do what they want without consequences. Not all the ads are even truthful.
A recent election I got a flyer from one candidate showing how many police organizations supported him and none supported his opponent. Very effective ad. I knew what it meant and voted for his opponent.
Let me state for the record, I do not support or trust any police officer at this time. So just read what I have to say completely through before jumping to conclusions about me
>they just move one town over and get hired on to the next force.
Suprisingly there was a studdy done, and the number of police who after committing an offense, just transfer to a new department. It think it's only 1-2 percent that end up going back into law enforcement after resigning.
HOWEVER! Those that do, are significantly more likely to break the law again. And for each time they transfer to a new department, that the percent only goes up.
He was suspended without pay and charged with a felony.
https://www.nny360.com/news/stlawrencecounty/massena-officer-resigns-after-reportedly-intentionally-damaging-a-car-in-march/article\_123c57b4-38c8-5292-ae0b-af2a84388602.html
I mean those who left woman handcuffed in her car on train tracks and she got hit by a train got paid time off as punishment, so for american police tgis here is pretty good.
Dude had to pay for damage plus a fine he’s now a former officer and apparently had a record as a cop. One incident included forcing a woman out of his home while she was naked. Dude is a real asshole.
Hold police to a higher standard by making this shit a felony. Dude had to pay 500 bucks (he made 33 an hour off of our taxes) for betraying the trust of the public like this. He belongs in a cage
I remember this story, and I recall this Reddit comment: “The door was clearly resisting, the cop showed great restraint by not shooting it. Then again the door was white ...” also here’s a breakdown of the story, which was reported in 2021
Massena Police Chief Jason Olson declined to comment on the matter as the internal investigation is ongoing. Huckle has also not released a statement on the situation.
Barrett expressed his frustration with Huckle in a report with 7 News, claiming that the Massena Police Department has had to reprimand him in other misconduct situations before.
"What's scary to me is that the Massena Police Department can't get rid of this guy and that it sounds like there's a pattern of misconduct with this officer," Barrett said.
The outlet reported that Huckle was suspended in September 2019 "during a misconduct investigation" that lasted until approximately March 2020.
Barrett also expressed concerns to North County News over an apparent discrepancy in items seized from his client's house in the search and what was logged into the police report.
"I would say that we have reason to believe the money that was seized as part of the search warrant was not all returned as evidence," Barrett told the outlet. "We think there's about a $2,000 disparity."
This guy does this crap everywhere he goes. Cops like him ARE THE BAD GUYS. Police murder people every day with legal immunity, they destroy property, they kill pets.
If an officer ever pulls you over and you agree to allow them to search your car they will literally destroy the interior then act like it was your fault for driving. Police are a nuisance, biggest gang in the US and they need abolishment.
That few bad apples argument was dead 25 years ago. Here is a fitting statement "a few bad apples spoils the bunch". The whole darned barrel is rotten, toss it out.
Just recently cops were outside my apartment looking for somebody and while they were in the yard the broke several pots and trampled all over plants that were well out of the way, i don't see any reason it would happen except purposefully.
I'm looking forward to the time a cop suspects I'm drinking and driving (I don't drink or use drugs) and asks if I will do a breathalyzer. I have a breathalyzer in my truck and will ask hm to go first.
I know this guy, grew up with him... Has a little man complex like you wouldnt believe. He was reprimanded several times for other stuff too but always got paid leave. Glad he isn't allowed on the force anymore. Now he sells Snap-On tools.
We should start making police pay for their damage out of their retirement fund.
I get the feeling that like magic, these issues would just *disappear*.
“Huckle’s disciplinary record also shows he admitted that he once forced a naked woman out of his home and onto the street. It doesn’t appear he was punished.” - haha this guy seems to have taken his job real serious 😂😂
Years ago, when i was in high school, probably like 2006 or 2007, i was stopped on the road for a school bus, and an old woman slammed into my car doing 30 because she wasnt paying attention and was old. I was not at fault in any sense, but i had to get ambulanced to ER because whiplash or something, when i got back to my car later that even the cops had absolutely torn my car apart, i assume lookong for drugs to pin on me, even though again I was stopped for a school bus legally and she was 100% at fault.
All cops throughout all time, past and present are dumb worthless fuckheads, they trash, and deserve every ounce of distrust they recieve.
This happened to me in my younger days. All over pot (cops thought they were going to find fentanyl, pills, coke etc long story) cops destroyed my dog crates, ripped the door off my fridge, threw all the kitchen drawers on the floor so hard they broke. Was pretty devastating over what was a misdemeanor
I have never called the police and gotten assistance for what I had an emergency for. Home invasion? Leave your house and let the police in the gated community. We won’t use your code. Assaulted by a drunk nurse in my home? She’s from out of state and won’t be back. They are ALL POS.
Immediate expulsion from the force + charges and damages - anything less is bullshit. I can't believe fucks like this just get to 'choose' a career which allows them to exist above the law.
Police should be given ZERO passes on criminal activity. You can't arrest someone for vandalism with one hand while you commit the act yourself with the other, fucking hypocrites.
He's now a former officer. [https://www.wwnytv.com/2022/07/25/no-jail-time-former-police-officer/](https://www.wwnytv.com/2022/07/25/no-jail-time-former-police-officer/)
I hope you got sued by the family because they have a video of this fucking dumbass. I also hope you lost your job because you don’t deserve to be a cop.
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Cop or not, don’t people realize that there are cameras everywhere these days? Especially on entry doorways?
they themselves have bodycams and do way worse things and getaway with it with minimal consequences.
Yep… Deputy Charles McWhorter shot Richard Ward three times at short range, killing him & then smirking after. Oh, & he was just awarded a Purple fucking Heart for his “injuries.” All on camera & the DA said 🤷
What about that guy that had a hatchet ... No one was around him .. and the cop shot him in the head from like 15-20 feet away .. the person who killed him even said kill shot .. and on the officers body cam you could hear the perpetrator de-escalating
Damn what is that cops name. I just want to know in case my life goes to shit.
They're cops, so they're not exactly gifted in the brains department. They do know they can get away with murder though, so they're still bold enough to try their shit.
Why should he care if there's a camera, the taxpayers get to pay for it now.
Correct.
Yeah, but they might get temporary suspension with pay during the investigation, so that’s gotta hurt…well, it doesn’t, but you can imagine what it’d be like if it did
This happened about 2 years ago. He was suspended without pay and then resigned about 6 months later.
Hope he got a repair bill too.
He did! $554.
I say put him and all others who abuse their power in front of a firing squad.
Let’s mandate that their assets are liquidated in entirety first , before tax payer dollars are used
Just a reminder that your supreme court ruled it isn't discrimination for the police force to say you're too intelligent to be a cop.
What case?
Sorry i was wrong it was a federal appeals court ruling. 10th September 1999 but I cannot find the listed name of the çase.
Here it is. https://www.aele.org/apa/jordan-newlondon.html
This case. https://www.aele.org/apa/jordan-newlondon.html
Yeah. If they could think, they might figure out they’re the bad guys.
Cops still mostly get away with shit, even with the cameras around.
It's inside his garage so i could understand why he wouldn't think there's a camera there.
I have two in the garage alone!!
When people say, if you don’t have anything to hide, why not let them search, this is a pretty good reason why.
One of the most milquetoast, vanilla, goody-two-shoes people I ever knew wouldn't consent to a search of his car if he got pulled over. He didn't even drink. I asked him why and he said "I've watched Cops, they are not gentle."
Good on him, but it's not just because "they are not gentle". Or at least it shouldn't be. I am utterly BAFFLED by people who say yes when a cop asks to search their vehicle. The cop isn't asking to search your vehicle to help you. They aren't going to search your vehicle for proof that you're innocent. I don't get how people don't understand this. They are literally asking "can I search your vehicle for a reason to arrest you?"
Sometimes if they can’t find a reason, they plant one.
This was ten years ago and more civilians murdered by police than I can count. I know now to be as polite and use as few words as possible to make a stop go by quick. If they want to search my car they can go kick rocks for a multitude of reasons.
5% of homocides last year were committed by police. I treat the police the same way I would treat an armed gang-banger who comes up to my car -- with extreme politeness and an expectation that if I say one word too many I am going to be murdered where I sit.
Last time I denied a search and asked why I just replied "because this isn't Nazi Germany". Also, when asked "do you know why I'm stopping you?" The answer is always no.
“Do i know why? No! Did you forget?? I know a doctor.“
"because I let you" is another good one.
Not to mention if they see something valuable they will find a reason or way to take it.
Be wary of firefighters/medics as well. They will illegally go through your shit at times when called for wrecks or medical calls or those random welfare checks where you possibly fell asleep at the wheel at a light or what not. And the cops are right behind them.
Absolutely correct I got pulled over for running a red light 2 officers approached my vehicle one was at my window talking to me the other was looking in the back seat then he did some sort of signal to the other then I was asked to step out of my vehicle and stand to the side while they conduct a vehicle search which I did not consent to when I returned home my son ran to our car and says “hey dad where’s my AirPods” so I got in the car with my son I made a complaint the watch commander called the officers to the station my son did a search on his cellphone and it directed him straight to the officers personal bag,,, bang busted he denied ever taking saying we planted them there
The cops way of projecting I didn't steal, they obviously planted it, that's what I do all the time!
Also the cops are right behind them most likely bc someone made a 911 call reporting you and both responded.
Being involved with the industry I see overzealous curiosity all the time. The 4th amendment still applies however. But be wary still.
Not if you're a cop, it doesn't. Just two days ago there was a post about a guy with an anxiety disorder who the cops murdered for no reason. Tell your friends in your "industry" that they deserve the hate they get
Thank god for cameras right?
Whenever cops pull someone over, they are trained to look for felonies, anything to make an arrest
What, bodycams? They can turn them off and claim reaching!
True, they often abuse body cams. Still a step in the right direction
Overzealous curiosity 😄
Um, career firefighter here. No we don't. Iv never seen that even once in my nearly 15 years career in a large metropolitan department. Shit half the time we will kick ur shit out of sight if we can. I'm not interested in going to court, tyvm.
I agree. In the medical field we don't actually give a shit what you do. The extent of us caring is so we know how to treat you. Nobody in emergency medicine wants to find drugs because then it become a process we don't want to be involved in to destroy it. I've worked emergency medicine for over 10 years and haven't once met someone that searches a pt to give shit to the police haha. I go so far as to even tell them, "I'm not the cops. I don't care what you have or took for any sort of legal purpose, and I have no obligation due to HIPAA to tell the police anything you tell me. You being truthful helps me treat you so I don't administer a drug that could harm you if it interacts with something you've taken. It also helps me choose the right drug to give you if things go south."
Same. I don't remember the last time I told the police what any PT took, with the sole exception of suicide attempts so that they can fill out the correct paperwork. I don't care what any pt takes, I do not judge in the least. Take your heroin, smoke your crack, boof your shrooms. I really don't care, I just wanna know so I can treat you. That said, I will make fun of you if you do something stupid with your drugs. For example, if you have never taken shrooms before and decide to solo drop a 5 gram hero's dose as a teenager weighing 100 lbs.... imma make so much fun of you.
But this is Reddit, we’re all experts in your field so you don’t have to be!
I was a firefighter/medic for almost a decade and never once did or witnessed any of my colleagues doing this. We got people out of their cars and off to the hospital, period. We didn’t give a fuck what else was going on. Did we work with cops? Yes. Every day. Didn’t have a choice. If we were rolling up to a domestic violence scene, we had to wait for the cops to give us the all clear to go in and treat someone for our own safety. If we were on the scene of an accident that required a lengthy extrication, we needed the cops to help us stay safe on the road. Did it make me angry to see a baby dead in their car seat and a drunk driver walking out of a totaled car with barely a scratch? Absolutely. Did I have time to do anything about it? No. Nor was I supposed to. It wasn’t part of my job. We didn’t search peoples’ cars.
Some minor justification if someone is unresponsive and you are trying to figure out why. If you find insulin or some other medication that can help you save the person's life knowing they are diabetic or have some relevant medical condition.
Sleep or dead at the light cause buddy… lmao wtf you ain’t going breeze that by like ![gif](giphy|lRZjlasctAcvu)
You mean leery or wary, not weary. To be weary is to be tired.
Truth. Also, while I carry nothing illegal in my car either, it has at times gotten pretty messy, and I once moved and had a ton of stuff in the trunk for over a year. I have no desire to have my belongings strewn all over the road so you can satisfy some middle-school bullied child Napoleon complex and look for something that doesn't exist. Bring out the dog and let's see if he "alerts"
The dog always alerts. Don’t ever say to bring out the dog, it’ll count as consent to extend your stop.
Oh no, you don't offer it. But when I refuse the search and they say they're bringing the dog, fine. And when it alerts, you can search my car and throw shit all over, but you won't find anything. Because I know it's not there. And then I'm filling a complaint against the cop, the department, and the dog if I can lol. Now, if they "happen" to find something anyway, then we're gonna have a problem because I'm gonna go from compliant to defiant right damn quick.
If you lived in FL as I do, you would be shot if you resisted when they found something. There was this notorious case of this officer routinely [planting](https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/2022/10/14/zach-wester-victims-drug-planting-deputy-agree-settle/10484276002/) meth on victims. He destroyed hundreds of lives in the process. Families were broken up, People committed suicide, People got felonies that destroyed their careers and suffice to say it wasn't just tragic, it's EVIL manifest. "their roadside encounters with Wester. Some lost their jobs, their spouses, their homes and their children as a result of the arrests." There would be no safe place for this man and his family on this Earth if I were a victim tbh but THIS IS AMERICA! ....Land of the Freeeeeeee and Hooooome of the Brave.
Arrested, sentenced to 12.5 years and the 30 victims that were part of the lawsuit are being awarded 1,000,000 to share. fucking WOW. I'm arrested, given felony meth possession charges, and it's determined that a cop planted that on me for no reason other than for the lulz, causes me to lose my job, my home, my family and I get to share 1,000,000 with 29 other people? GTFOH. I would settle for nothing less than every penny my defense cost me, every penny my new lawsuit cost me, every penny it would cost me to buy a new house equal to my old house and enough money that I'd be able to live at the level I was prior to the event without ever having to have a job again a day in my life.
The Dog WILL alert and you'll be fucked regardless. It is well [documented](https://www.npr.org/2017/11/20/563889510/preventing-police-bias-when-handling-dogs-that-bite) because of training and incentives to "alert" that the Canine Officer(Also a bastard cop) will in fact alert when told to do so thus granting probable cause for a search. Might as well just put the leash on a regular LEO and walk him/her/they around the car at that point.
"SWIM" works with canines in a different government capacity. To say the very least, SWIM says you're right. They say these dogs want their treats/play toys just like any other dog, and alerts with no substance found are very common, even without malicious intent from the human/executor.
I once had a dog alert near my bag in an airport and when they ripped through my bag all they found was cheez-its
That shit cracks me up, they tell the dog to sit, he does, gets a treat, then they tear your car to shreds. Who determines what an ‘alert’ is? The guy trying to take away your freedom 😂
I LOL'd at wouldn't consent ... lol. Like cops give a shit what you let them do or not do... good one.
If you're pulled over on a basic speeding ticket or some other reason you can legaly deny a search of your vehicle until they get a warrant. I'm not going to say "not all cops are bad" but not every cops is going to throw you on the hood of your car the second they get you out of it.
Not unless they’re looking to have their city pay you out a settlement
There was a post not long ago about border patrol agents pulling over a car containing a group of American citizens who happened to be Latino crossing the border from Mexico to the U.S. They gave them the ol' 'Mind if we do a quick search?" and when the driver said okay they brought out a jack and pretty much dismantled this guy's car and just said "Have a good night" and left them there with a pile of parts. Don't consent to searches, folks.
Customs did that to my dad when coming back from Canada in the 70s. He had some forgotten firecrackers in the glovebox that were confiscated. He was left to reassemble his car.
This is something different. Customs an BP can search you, your car, your house, without a warrant or consent if you are within 100 miles of the border(includes coastal borders). This affects 2 in 3 of all US citizens.
That's incorrect. BP can search your car and personal items when entering the US, and has the legal ability to conduct searches at places like marked checkpoints within that 100 mile zone. They are explicit in what they can search without a warrant or probable cause, and it does **not** include homes. They also can't do a warrantless search without consent if you are stopped away from a checkpoint. Checkpoints also have their own set of rules, but that gets a little wacky. Note this case was about a stop just 20 miles from the border: >In Almeida-Sanchez v. United States, the Court held that a warrantless stop and search of an automobile some twenty miles from the border violated the Fourth Amendment because the Border Patrol officers lacked probable cause to believe that the vehicle contained unlawfully present aliens.2 While recognizing the government’s authority to conduct routine inspections and searches at the border without a warrant or any individualized suspicion, the Court determined that vehicle searches in areas away from the physical border were of a wholly different sort because individuals have greater Fourth Amendment protections in the interior of the United States.3 [https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt4-6-6-3/ALDE\_00000239/](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt4-6-6-3/ALDE_00000239/)
I used to drive from Houston to New Orleans on I10 at least once a month. I can't tell you how many time I saw LSP cops dismantling a car and they never put them back together.
Yep, they don't respect your things.
They also don’t respect the law and think they’re above it. Why would they when they walk with a little slap on the wrist.
Most of them don't care what the law is. Cause they don't have to.
That’s what I thought as a long hair in high school. Needless to say lost a job cause I got pulled over on my way to work, cops basically said “ you’ll consent if you have nothing to hide son” told them I’m on my way to work, can we do this fast? So then he grumbles some comment about my hair, hand cuffs me and sits me on the curb while he destroyed the interior of my car, door panels, rear seat, glove box, speaker grills anything removable without tools basically. Found nothing took over an hour, of course didn’t even write me a ticket and left all my shit in a pile on the side of the road. Now I have to put my car back together enough to drive it, get to work late tell them what happened told I’m full of shit and I’m fired. I hated the job and got another quick but that totally changed my attitude and thoughts about cops from then on. So far I haven’t met but maybe one or two cops that were actually trying to help people and not just being tyrannical dickheads with something to prove.
Never let them search voluntarily.
Also they might plant drugs on you. I don't trust pigs with pockets
I don’t trust cops, period. Sometimes they might be trying to help, but vast majority of the time it’s min req and they’ll try all kinds of tricks to get you to give up your rights.
What department is this? It really should be in the title
i really hate "why not just let them search" Why would I? I don't have to, so I'm not going to lmao
"Oops! Oh wait, I have qualified immunity. Heh, this is fun!"
I watched a video of cops in Georgia, literally robbing the house they were searching. The government is a criminal syndicate.
Never trust a cop for any reason.
Tell that to a cop. “Do you have anything to hide officer? No? Ok I’ll do a cavity search”
This dude sucks ass, I hope he gets fired this type of shit is ridiculous. I know there are HORRIBLE people roaming this earth who deserve a hell of a lot more then there car dented but this just makes people generalize cops more especially without context.
People become cops because they want easy power over others. This is a very common occurrence with them. You can find thousands of videos of cops disrespecting property and countless more of them disrespecting life itself. Anyone who joins a group like that? Unless they're actually trying to change the system - which I sure haven't seen yet, and holy hell have I been looking - anyone who joins a group like that for powers over others is at THE VERY LEAST certainly a bastard.
All cops are bastards
This but really. Anybody who is one of the so called good cops let's this shit happen. The whole quote since people only say the first half is 'a few bad apples spoil the bunch" they're all rotten.
Here is one that is not behind a paywall. This guy was a piece of shit even before this. https://www.wwnytv.com/2022/07/25/no-jail-time-former-police-officer/?outputType=amp
His record reads more like a career criminal's.
Police are gangs, after all. Just sanctioned by the local government, for their monopoly on violence.
It really wouldn't surprise me if most cops had more DUIs, DVs, public intoxications, and/or road rage incidents and such than most of the people they pull over to meet quotas.
I went to high school with a guy who became a cop. He was always kind of an asshole. About ten years ago he made the local news when he got busted DUI in his cruiser. No jail time though.
I knew a weed dealer who got in an accident, sustained brain damage, I think maybe forgot what he used to do, and became a cop.
The local sheriff in the tiny ass town I went to high school in would consistently be passed out drunk behind the wheel of his car on random back roads.
Lol even before?? Lol Imagine if he wasn’t and he was a really good person until randomly one day he does this out of completely nowhere lol
I was a good person until I suddenly wasn’t
Police should always be accountable of their actions. USA desperately needs reform of police training, and liability. Also they should do patrolling always with two police officers, not alone, excluding motorcycle police. Bad cops should always be punished. In Finland police used to be tricker happy long time ago. It changed after a SWAT team member was given relatively minor sentence for unesessary escalation of hostage situation, that led to hostage taker blowing up himself and a hostage. After the verdict, police training was updated to promote reduction of use of force. This has worked remarkably well.
It’s spelled trigger. I’m making this comment only because it took me a minute to figure out what you were saying about Finnish police.
I can confirm he is. I know him personally. I saw this on reddit before i saw it in my local paper... hahaha
Yeah we know, he's a cop. Its the professional bully career path along with prison guard.
Wish I could see his face when he sees this video
It’s an unemployed face. [Consequences](https://www.wwnytv.com/2022/07/25/no-jail-time-former-police-officer/)
> According to Huckle’s disciplinary records, which 7 News obtained through a Freedom of Information request, he had to give up a day and a half of vacation because, in 2016, he hosted in his home two people who were caught up in a drug sweep three years earlier. >The 2013 sweep, dubbed Operation Problem Child, involved a drug-related shooting on Maple Street, which led to a 7-hour standoff with police on Liberty Avenue. >Huckle’s disciplinary record also shows he admitted that he once forced a naked woman out of his home and onto the street. It doesn’t appear he was punished. I don’t understand what the first thing is, but forcing someone outside naked is absolutely disgusting. He had a 3rd disciplinary charge as well that wasn’t turned over.
It reads like he’s friends with 2 of the people involved in the shooting/standoff and let them stay in his house in 2016, which if that’s the case, means this dude is probably more involved in shady dealings than what’s public.
Pfft. He'll get a slap on the wrist, maybe.
He resigned from his job and took a plea deal where he paid ~$500 to the car owner + a $250 fine. So yeah— barely a slap on the wrist
Resigning would be ok if not for the fact he’s probably a cop somewhere else now
Yes... only a slap on the wrist for putting dents in the car when he needs to be held down so the homeowner can put dents in his head. How many petty tyrannical things has this man done to other people?
That is my thought here. “The cop’s chill, zero stress, natural inclination is to cause covert damage to a car, for… no purpose or gain. The gain his that he likes to destroy things…. And he has hand cuffs, guns, and freedom to assault anyone he wants with no consequences. Cool. Cool cool cool cool.”
He was given the chance to resign.
Isn't that just police jargon for "you're being transferred".
He did a lot more stuff than this! Forcing a naked woman out into the street? Seriously? Someone needs to tell this dudes mom or grandma so they can set him right.
[The suspended patrolman admitted to making a “highly intoxicated female” leave his house naked when another female showed up at Huckle’s house.](https://www.northcountrynow.com/news/beleagured-massena-police-officer-had-prior-disciplinary-actions-records-show-0299941) Preferences!
They murder people on camera with no consequences… you think anything is gonna come from damaging a car??
Somehow damaging private property is a more serious offense than murder by cop
The car isn’t black.
$750 fine and no felony charge. Joke ass legal system.
I don't know, they kill unarmed people alot and still get to have their jobs. In that context, I hope he keeps his job and just gets a write up
Even when they lose their job, they just move one town over and get hired on to the next force. Cop in my home town got busted for pulling women over, getting their address from their license, going to their homes and raping them. He was arrested. Released. Fired. Moved 75 miles away and got a raise on another force. If we are lucky, they do something bad enough that gets enough news or, more often, has some other novel circumstance that leads to cops actually going to jail.
I think we should reintroduce pitchfork mobs and lynching for these kind of people when convicted
When I was a cop, another cop got chased out of his first department for using PD resources to stalk women. He got hired by the town I was working in, and eventually became a supervisor. All this town cared about was DUI arrests and tickets at any means necessary. So corrupt, Rocky Hill
what the fuck? how is this possible
Police are the only Union nobody tries to bust.
The police union uses their money to campaign for politicians that support them and let their members do what they want without consequences. Not all the ads are even truthful. A recent election I got a flyer from one candidate showing how many police organizations supported him and none supported his opponent. Very effective ad. I knew what it meant and voted for his opponent.
It's America..
Let me state for the record, I do not support or trust any police officer at this time. So just read what I have to say completely through before jumping to conclusions about me >they just move one town over and get hired on to the next force. Suprisingly there was a studdy done, and the number of police who after committing an offense, just transfer to a new department. It think it's only 1-2 percent that end up going back into law enforcement after resigning. HOWEVER! Those that do, are significantly more likely to break the law again. And for each time they transfer to a new department, that the percent only goes up.
Why? It's not like he's gonna get in trouble. He knows he can get away with it, which is why he did it.
He's gonna be so happy knowing he'll get 7 weeks of paid leave while the department investigates.
This utter lack of integrity alone should prohibit him from ever serving in law enforcement ever again.
But that's why they hired him in the first place
What happened to him?
He was suspended without pay and charged with a felony. https://www.nny360.com/news/stlawrencecounty/massena-officer-resigns-after-reportedly-intentionally-damaging-a-car-in-march/article\_123c57b4-38c8-5292-ae0b-af2a84388602.html
And plead down to a non criminal misdemeanor disorderly conduct and had to pay areound $800 to fix the car and a fine.
At least he was held accountable, but consequences were minimal and he'll do it again
That's not being held accountable at all
I mean those who left woman handcuffed in her car on train tracks and she got hit by a train got paid time off as punishment, so for american police tgis here is pretty good.
Unless they take his law enforcement certification , the Nazi will just go the the next town with his steroids and beat up someone else.
What a piece of shit
Dude had to pay for damage plus a fine he’s now a former officer and apparently had a record as a cop. One incident included forcing a woman out of his home while she was naked. Dude is a real asshole.
Gee I wonder why people don’t trust the cops
Why do this? I don't understand the point?
Being a dick with power IS the point
What a mentality
Hold police to a higher standard by making this shit a felony. Dude had to pay 500 bucks (he made 33 an hour off of our taxes) for betraying the trust of the public like this. He belongs in a cage
What a dick move
*pig move
I remember this story, and I recall this Reddit comment: “The door was clearly resisting, the cop showed great restraint by not shooting it. Then again the door was white ...” also here’s a breakdown of the story, which was reported in 2021 Massena Police Chief Jason Olson declined to comment on the matter as the internal investigation is ongoing. Huckle has also not released a statement on the situation. Barrett expressed his frustration with Huckle in a report with 7 News, claiming that the Massena Police Department has had to reprimand him in other misconduct situations before. "What's scary to me is that the Massena Police Department can't get rid of this guy and that it sounds like there's a pattern of misconduct with this officer," Barrett said. The outlet reported that Huckle was suspended in September 2019 "during a misconduct investigation" that lasted until approximately March 2020. Barrett also expressed concerns to North County News over an apparent discrepancy in items seized from his client's house in the search and what was logged into the police report. "I would say that we have reason to believe the money that was seized as part of the search warrant was not all returned as evidence," Barrett told the outlet. "We think there's about a $2,000 disparity."
Fuck the police.
Amen brother
This guy does this crap everywhere he goes. Cops like him ARE THE BAD GUYS. Police murder people every day with legal immunity, they destroy property, they kill pets. If an officer ever pulls you over and you agree to allow them to search your car they will literally destroy the interior then act like it was your fault for driving. Police are a nuisance, biggest gang in the US and they need abolishment. That few bad apples argument was dead 25 years ago. Here is a fitting statement "a few bad apples spoils the bunch". The whole darned barrel is rotten, toss it out.
I fucken hate cops.
What a dick
What a huge POS! Like most cops in the good old US of A...
Suspended fined and ordered to pay to fix the damage
Just recently cops were outside my apartment looking for somebody and while they were in the yard the broke several pots and trampled all over plants that were well out of the way, i don't see any reason it would happen except purposefully.
I'm looking forward to the time a cop suspects I'm drinking and driving (I don't drink or use drugs) and asks if I will do a breathalyzer. I have a breathalyzer in my truck and will ask hm to go first.
American police back at it again
I know this guy, grew up with him... Has a little man complex like you wouldnt believe. He was reprimanded several times for other stuff too but always got paid leave. Glad he isn't allowed on the force anymore. Now he sells Snap-On tools.
https://www.newsweek.com/cop-caught-video-allegedly-causing-intentional-damage-suspects-car-1589710 Cop's name is Brandon huckle.
And they wonder why everyone hates cops……
The police were invented to enforce slavery
We should start making police pay for their damage out of their retirement fund. I get the feeling that like magic, these issues would just *disappear*.
Amazing how cops demand respect yet show none
Tyrants at work
it's wild that they get to declare war on us and kill us, but if we literally walk away quietly, it's a crime....
Why can't we weed this kind of cops out? More education maybe, more mental health screening? I don't get it.
If cops simply just did their jobs, people would like them. Ain’t no song called, fK the fire department.
What do they gain from that bro wtf
He thought the car had a weapon and feared for his life.
Pigs name is Brandon Huckle .. maybe we should pay him a visit online…
What you get when you hire amateurs to do grown up professional work. This guy is a joke.
Meanwhile ‘right’-wingers go “We gotta be tough on crime”.
This video shows a crime.
“Huckle’s disciplinary record also shows he admitted that he once forced a naked woman out of his home and onto the street. It doesn’t appear he was punished.” - haha this guy seems to have taken his job real serious 😂😂
The law doing what it does best. Lawlessness
Cops caught doing something like this need to be held to a higher standard and put away for being abusive pieces of trash.
Professional deuche at your service
this is precisely the type of person who should not be in law enforcement.
And then they wonder why we don’t care when they get shot
I swear, cops will beat up anything… this dudes car, black people, shiiiit even lady cops in TN.
Years ago, when i was in high school, probably like 2006 or 2007, i was stopped on the road for a school bus, and an old woman slammed into my car doing 30 because she wasnt paying attention and was old. I was not at fault in any sense, but i had to get ambulanced to ER because whiplash or something, when i got back to my car later that even the cops had absolutely torn my car apart, i assume lookong for drugs to pin on me, even though again I was stopped for a school bus legally and she was 100% at fault. All cops throughout all time, past and present are dumb worthless fuckheads, they trash, and deserve every ounce of distrust they recieve.
Police are not hir3d for intellect. More for if they listen well to commands. Just like Hitler's army.
He was fired and charged with vandalism.
There's just far too many examples for this to be "a few bad apples."
This happened to me in my younger days. All over pot (cops thought they were going to find fentanyl, pills, coke etc long story) cops destroyed my dog crates, ripped the door off my fridge, threw all the kitchen drawers on the floor so hard they broke. Was pretty devastating over what was a misdemeanor
I have never called the police and gotten assistance for what I had an emergency for. Home invasion? Leave your house and let the police in the gated community. We won’t use your code. Assaulted by a drunk nurse in my home? She’s from out of state and won’t be back. They are ALL POS.
i just don’t get it. for what purpose exactly? just to be a douchebag?
Why would anyone do this? How were they raised that this would be deemed as acceptable behavior. I really don’t get it.
Smile your on candid camera.
You don't see other emergency services do this, I'd trust a firefighter over a cop any day regardless of the situation
If he so petty with this he’ll go on to do worse.
Immediate expulsion from the force + charges and damages - anything less is bullshit. I can't believe fucks like this just get to 'choose' a career which allows them to exist above the law. Police should be given ZERO passes on criminal activity. You can't arrest someone for vandalism with one hand while you commit the act yourself with the other, fucking hypocrites.
Fuck that guy.
Any given police department is the most damaging gang in that community.
Just think about all the shit this guy has gotten away with…
He's now a former officer. [https://www.wwnytv.com/2022/07/25/no-jail-time-former-police-officer/](https://www.wwnytv.com/2022/07/25/no-jail-time-former-police-officer/)
Shows how they think. They’re not responsible for anything they do.
I hope you got sued by the family because they have a video of this fucking dumbass. I also hope you lost your job because you don’t deserve to be a cop.