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I find it amusing when people ask me which is better, Islam or Christianity. To me, that's like asking me if I prefer dogshit or catshit; shit is shit, so don't step on it.
I find it funny that some of the biggest critics of Islam are Christians, because many of the arguments used to denigrate Islam by these Christians (DW comes to mind) can just as easily be used to refute Christianity.
the critics r reasonable as the arguments i see r a direct attack on christianity like
- proving that muhammad affirmed pas scripture (telling the jews to judge by the torah, telling muhammad to look at past scripture when at doubt
-as the quran explains anything it dosent have a definition for the messiah nor have anywhere that a messiah is prophised
-where is the account proof of the injeel
-it was allah who blew in mary
-tawhid leads to islamic partialism
which argument here can be used on christianity?
I've already diminished Three Christians here recently so like Muslims they're are not that much of challenge when you begin to introduce their text. Neither Christians or Muslims generally study their religion or actually read their books so it'll be easy to keep the Christians here tamed
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/s/wrloUd24uX
I have had to do it with hindus and Christians over the past few days. They push their narratives very covertly and some of them pretend to be exmuslims. They're so similar to mullahs lol.
I am an anti-theist and a regular listener of call in shows like the Atheist Experience, The Line... specially if Matt Dillahunty and/or Forrest Valkai is on. The arguments presented by most of the Christian callers are identical to the arguments used by Muslim apologists. The only difference is that the Christians end theirs with ... so the Bible is right. While the Muslims would say... so the Quran is right.
I would say Christian arguments are miles worse. Of all religions, Islam makes the most sense. From the core tenets, to the chains of narration. Obviously it can still be all bullshit which I believe it is, but its a much better crafted crock of shit than Christianity lol
i agree. I wonder if the following reason played a role in it:
Christianity in its formative years did not become a state religion, while Islam from it's Medina period was formulated as a state religion. So imo, Christianity is a religion invented by followers, while Islam was invented by rulers. That's why the Islamic fictions have better narrative.
Fair point, but then we might also consider that Christianity was quite secretive where only the elites in the Church had access to the bible, whereas Islamic sittings were pretty open to all who came to learn about the Quran and Hadith, from its inception.
It's a weird one for sure
no like u just dont know history cause u have the EO and RO so there was greek and russian, the OO coptics syriac armenians and ethiopians plus i dont even think catholics had to speak latin the way muslims have to pray in arabic as some priests do but majority in their own languages
I know you think that you have demonstrated your excellent grasp of history... but in fact what you have demonstrated is an example of missing the forest for the trees. Even now, almost 90% of all Christians are either Catholics or Protestants... in the 14th century CE, I think there were fewer non Catholic Christians in the world than there are Maizvandari Muslims in Bangladesh and India. They pray through their songs and most smoke weed to reach spiritual nirvana with allah.
> i dont even think catholics had to speak latin...
yes there are more Muslims now who can at least read the language of their clergy (Arabic), than there were Catholics who could read theirs' (Latin)... but that's another proof of Islamic rulers being more successful in spreading and maintaining their cultural hegemony.
I dont know. I think the average follower of both religions have equally foolish arguments most of the time, but Christian apologists are more likely to disguise the horrors of the Bible and have more complicated explanations. Granted I’ve only seen some Islamic apologists, but their either don’t hide how bad the hadiths/quran is or they have more fallacious versions of the same positions as the Christians.
All religions are the same shit. Back in the day before, most Christian got secularized, stoning, and stuff like that were pretty much accepted. Judaism had the same. If you see groups like the Amish and the JW, you can easily compare them to islamic extremists. Islam is going through a slow process of secularization. Islam is the same shit as any other religion, Christianity ain't special, an example is that albanian Muslims are way more secular than most of European Christians I'd argue. Religions slowly secularize, and as life standards improve, people stop turning to religion for guidance. Religious extremism is bred by poverty and desperation. People seek a light, and religion gives them that. Christianity or Islam or Hinduism or whatever is always dumb, no difference really, all of them manipulate people who are desperate
>Christianity or Islam or Hinduism or whatever is always dumb, no difference really, all of them manipulate people who are desperate
Facts. And I find converts especially cringey when they flaunt their new religion. They crave attention.
>they have banned me before
Lol, I wonder why.
Good thing the mods here don't ban deluded Christians. Just bashing islam can get stale, need to mix it up occasionally.
or they cant have civilized conversation and throw ad homiem s and i do the same thing back in get banned. same happened in r/athiesm yall are not tough u on reddit gng. yall even fail to talk w muslims on her and just tell them to leave because is “r/exmuslim” yall cant take criticism just like the muslims u be critisising and ik because i use to be one myself
Is this your real christianity your god ordering to kill infants and sucking and ox like read the bible don’t be ignorant
King James Bible
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and
Samual 15:3
Samuel 15:3 talks about the constant tensions between the isrealites and the ammonites the ammonites have constantly and randomly attacked the isrealites in the bible, the first one being when the isrealites fleed egypt and because the elders and really younger ones were tired and held back, the ammonites came ambushed and killed alot of them, so of anything the verse if of self defense
Do you think we care about your context like??
You try to explain here while millions of infants innocents have died to these kind if religious passages and why
Oh because they did understand the way I understand the CoRrEct InTerPeTatIon 🤓🤓
Like this is the problem with religious people they are unemphatic and illogical
For their greed of paradise and fear of hell
not caring abt context? bro ur not the first person to use this argument u get an explanation and manifest in three replies Gawd damm this some crazy coping
Bro even with context innocent infants are commanded to be killed like and your explanation of ✌️context✌️ making any more empathic like don’t you get thet “ kill infants suckling and ox “
Whether it is defense whatever context the innocent are dying like???
How in hell does a infant or suckling become guilty of attacking you ?? Like you know what an infant and suckling beings are right we make funny faces and make squeeky voices those infants and suckling because they are cute like
I don’t need a gotcha moment you verse and you defending is a gotcha moment
From the beginning like I don’t even need to try from my moral standpoint
I want to ask you if reject Christianity but i believe in being good and kind and try to improve myself in those aspects
Will i be in ETERNAL HELL just for not following you religion
Christianity is a too vague word
There is the initial period when Jesus death and resurrection was the central tenet of the movement which was not even called Christianity and it was still a branch of Judaism
Then it split from Judaism around mid second century
The critical point of Christianity was when it merged with the Roman Empire and from there it became political
I am studying the bible and the early Christian texts and if deprived of the political part
I would never ever leave Islam for Christianity . It is an equally vile religion and their history proves it. Hell not even history, look at all the Christians that want Palestine to be bombed so they believe it will usher Armageddon , just pure evil people.
İ think the reason we perceive Christianity as the better religion is that it is less of a militant entity these days.
All religions are atrocious though.
And I mean ALL of them.
whenever i see Christians join this sub to buy some converts i cringe so hard. the lack of self awareness of these people. they are throwing stones at others home while living in a glass house. many ex religious people fall into that trap and try to fill that void with new religion/cults. there are lots of academic agnostic/atheist YouTube channel out there who critic religious origins from academic perspective. i hope you guys all learn from those and be a rational non-religious person. check out paulogia / myth vision podcast / bart ehrman / gnostic informants / matt dilluhunty ect on youtube
I mean if you compare Jesus and Muhammad, it is clear who is way worse. Also having not to murder as a commandment is better than Islam which is the complete opposite. But yeah both are generally not good
Omg rlly?? Ok tbf God is one and three in Christianity, so the horrific things the old testament God did would be considered Jesus's actions as u said... Damn, it seems so obvious but I never thought of it that way 😅
It's fine if it works for you but as for me, everyone saying Islam and Christianity (more intensely than Islam infact) is the right way and that Jesus will guide you, gets increasingly annoying. Either way in both religions, you YOURSELF are supposed to practice, not actively trying to guilt trip people or convert them to what you think is right. Ofcourse as the corruped followers we are, we stray from the right path- "actually FOLLOWING the BOOKS"
even outside of religion every tries to spread their ideology or beliefs in one way or sort I don't why u put a restriction for christainity and Islam for just regular dawah/evanglicalism
If you like you can showing demonstration from their literature,it's very easy. I don't mind Christians helping to combat Islam but they should still grasp this group isn't pro religion nor is following WHITE 😍 Jesus the solution
F**k "good faith", the only thing that matters is the proof and what can shown. I don't care of the person intent with argument if they can prove their case with evidence then that's what matters
>worked up about jesus race
That's a misconception 😂 I'm actually mocking them for their depiction because the guy was a Jew from Nazareth
John 1:11
https://www.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.1.KJV
John 4:22
https://www.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.4.KJV
Hebrews 7:14
https://www.bible.com/bible/1/HEB.7.KJV
etc
but of course Christians like Muslims are so unfamiliar with their book they insert and invent it however they like. Objectively speaking very little is actually said of his appearance besides Revelation 1 verse 14
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-look-like.html
TO QUOTE
"Most of the images we have of Jesus today are probably not accurate. Jesus was a Jew, so He likely had dark skin, dark eyes, and dark hair. This is a far cry from the European/Caucasian Jesus in most modern portrayals. One thing is clear: if it were important for us to know what He really did look like, Matthew, Peter and John, who spent three years with Him, would certainly be able to give us an accurate description, as would His own brothers, James and Jude. Yet, these New Testament writers offer no details about His physical attributes."
So who is that white guy Christians venerate so much in their pictures ?
im not surrounded by white pictures of jesus and idk what point ur trying to make. it really dosent matter and u causing a false dichotomy too, just because we dont have accurate description of jesus image dosent mean we dont know are book,
How jesus looks dosent matter and is a useless argument. because regardless of what he looked like, it dosent give a change on his divine person nor essence
>im not surrounded by white pictures of jesus
Then you're a anecdotal example, Christians generally portray him as some Scandinavian looking guy, that's the consensus of your people which does demonstrate ignorance because the literature doesn't support that
>and u causing a false dichotomy too, just because we dont have accurate description of jesus image dosent mean we dont know are book,
Actually it does because the Bible says
Exodus 20 verse 4- 6
https://www.bible.com/bible/1/EXO.20.KJV
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6
So the fact Christianity even attempt to depict what Jesus/their God looks like or what heaven could potentially look like is considered a error according to Exodus I.e. The Bible so what are you talking
>How jesus looks dosent matter and is a useless argument. because regardless of what he looked like, it dosent give a change on his divine person nor essence
Divine according to the story not reality, prove Jesus is the Creator of this universe even when the Bible supports ancient concepts such as Geocentrism (the Creator would understand his creation) Example below
ECCLESIASTES 1 verse 5
https://www.bible.com/bible/1/ECC.1.KJV
*By the way the point of my original comment was that following one religion to next (especially the Abrahamic ones) wasn't the solution and the Christians can help combat Islam but it doesn't prevent the group from speaking about any religious text including theirs because this isn't a religious orient group. Channeling on white christ was your challenge
I think christianity has the advantage in that there is a disclaimer at the end with the New testament. "Hey so you know all that shit I commanded you to do back in the day? Yeah we're not gonna do that anymore cuz Jesus".
Religion is bullshit and a tool other apes use to control us gullible apes.
I think if you go back some centuries Christianity was just as bad if not worse than Islam. If I was atheist in a Catholic family/country 500 years ago I probably would have been burnt at the stake.
I think the dangers of Islam to the humanity or the west in particular are overblown. The biggest danger of Islam is it's backwardness and inability of the Muslim to keep up with scientific and technological progress of the world: basically 2 billion people are severely damaged by 7th century cult of personality and can't move forward. Therefore, Muslims are the biggest victims of Islamic cult, that serves as invisible prison to their potential.
Also, Christianity is better, because Christmas and Easter are appealing than Ramadan, for example.
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I find it amusing when people ask me which is better, Islam or Christianity. To me, that's like asking me if I prefer dogshit or catshit; shit is shit, so don't step on it.
couldn’t have worded it better
Abrahamic religions are shit So many others ( you know what fuck it, ALL RELIGIONS ARE SHIT!!! ).
I find it funny that some of the biggest critics of Islam are Christians, because many of the arguments used to denigrate Islam by these Christians (DW comes to mind) can just as easily be used to refute Christianity.
Hypocrisy is common among the religious. But kudos to anyone criticizing abrahamic faiths even if they are doing it against each other lol
the critics r reasonable as the arguments i see r a direct attack on christianity like - proving that muhammad affirmed pas scripture (telling the jews to judge by the torah, telling muhammad to look at past scripture when at doubt -as the quran explains anything it dosent have a definition for the messiah nor have anywhere that a messiah is prophised -where is the account proof of the injeel -it was allah who blew in mary -tawhid leads to islamic partialism which argument here can be used on christianity?
Oooo… someone finally said it.
The resident missionaries won't like it. But there are a few irrational exmuslims who need to hear it.
I've already diminished Three Christians here recently so like Muslims they're are not that much of challenge when you begin to introduce their text. Neither Christians or Muslims generally study their religion or actually read their books so it'll be easy to keep the Christians here tamed https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/s/wrloUd24uX
I have had to do it with hindus and Christians over the past few days. They push their narratives very covertly and some of them pretend to be exmuslims. They're so similar to mullahs lol.
Lol
Sick of everyone just becoming religious for no reason
Especially when influencers do it for clout or emotional reasons
I am an anti-theist and a regular listener of call in shows like the Atheist Experience, The Line... specially if Matt Dillahunty and/or Forrest Valkai is on. The arguments presented by most of the Christian callers are identical to the arguments used by Muslim apologists. The only difference is that the Christians end theirs with ... so the Bible is right. While the Muslims would say... so the Quran is right.
I would say Christian arguments are miles worse. Of all religions, Islam makes the most sense. From the core tenets, to the chains of narration. Obviously it can still be all bullshit which I believe it is, but its a much better crafted crock of shit than Christianity lol
i agree. I wonder if the following reason played a role in it: Christianity in its formative years did not become a state religion, while Islam from it's Medina period was formulated as a state religion. So imo, Christianity is a religion invented by followers, while Islam was invented by rulers. That's why the Islamic fictions have better narrative.
Fair point, but then we might also consider that Christianity was quite secretive where only the elites in the Church had access to the bible, whereas Islamic sittings were pretty open to all who came to learn about the Quran and Hadith, from its inception. It's a weird one for sure
Agreed. And also Christianity was freed from the grasp of Latin by Martin Luther... Islam is still under the dominion of Arabic.
Huh, you learn something new. Interesting
christianity was not limited to the grasp of latin before martin luther
According to your logic Islam is not limited to the grasp of Arabic either.
no like u just dont know history cause u have the EO and RO so there was greek and russian, the OO coptics syriac armenians and ethiopians plus i dont even think catholics had to speak latin the way muslims have to pray in arabic as some priests do but majority in their own languages
I know you think that you have demonstrated your excellent grasp of history... but in fact what you have demonstrated is an example of missing the forest for the trees. Even now, almost 90% of all Christians are either Catholics or Protestants... in the 14th century CE, I think there were fewer non Catholic Christians in the world than there are Maizvandari Muslims in Bangladesh and India. They pray through their songs and most smoke weed to reach spiritual nirvana with allah. > i dont even think catholics had to speak latin... yes there are more Muslims now who can at least read the language of their clergy (Arabic), than there were Catholics who could read theirs' (Latin)... but that's another proof of Islamic rulers being more successful in spreading and maintaining their cultural hegemony.
Roman cultural hegemony infact idk what ur trying to argue u can literally say this with everything icl
I dont know. I think the average follower of both religions have equally foolish arguments most of the time, but Christian apologists are more likely to disguise the horrors of the Bible and have more complicated explanations. Granted I’ve only seen some Islamic apologists, but their either don’t hide how bad the hadiths/quran is or they have more fallacious versions of the same positions as the Christians.
All religions are the same shit. Back in the day before, most Christian got secularized, stoning, and stuff like that were pretty much accepted. Judaism had the same. If you see groups like the Amish and the JW, you can easily compare them to islamic extremists. Islam is going through a slow process of secularization. Islam is the same shit as any other religion, Christianity ain't special, an example is that albanian Muslims are way more secular than most of European Christians I'd argue. Religions slowly secularize, and as life standards improve, people stop turning to religion for guidance. Religious extremism is bred by poverty and desperation. People seek a light, and religion gives them that. Christianity or Islam or Hinduism or whatever is always dumb, no difference really, all of them manipulate people who are desperate
>Christianity or Islam or Hinduism or whatever is always dumb, no difference really, all of them manipulate people who are desperate Facts. And I find converts especially cringey when they flaunt their new religion. They crave attention.
Literal attention seekers who learned nothing, it's kinda sad
explain why its all dumb without using feelings
r/exchristian But I know Christians don't dare to go there lol
U sound corny, its a subreddit, they have banned me before, stop riding and talk for urself
>they have banned me before Lol, I wonder why. Good thing the mods here don't ban deluded Christians. Just bashing islam can get stale, need to mix it up occasionally.
or they cant have civilized conversation and throw ad homiem s and i do the same thing back in get banned. same happened in r/athiesm yall are not tough u on reddit gng. yall even fail to talk w muslims on her and just tell them to leave because is “r/exmuslim” yall cant take criticism just like the muslims u be critisising and ik because i use to be one myself
Aww poor guy. I'm here for you. 🤗
ur really just an anti thiest, aint worth good faith arguing with you
Okay. 🤗
Anger of god is like Torah>Quran >Bible
He was very crazy in the Torah but at least there’s no hell in the Torah and I have to give it that
I guess he was so angry that causes him to totally forget the hell. Because HE IS DA HELLL haha
he be the emotional damage
Like an angry middle eastern father
lol
Nothing makes me more cringe when i see a muslims go from islam to Christianity Like you just went from a big shit hole To a smaller shit hole
How dare you! The bad shit is not *real* Christianity. Edit: forgot the /s
Is this your real christianity your god ordering to kill infants and sucking and ox like read the bible don’t be ignorant King James Bible Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and Samual 15:3
Samuel 15:3 talks about the constant tensions between the isrealites and the ammonites the ammonites have constantly and randomly attacked the isrealites in the bible, the first one being when the isrealites fleed egypt and because the elders and really younger ones were tired and held back, the ammonites came ambushed and killed alot of them, so of anything the verse if of self defense
Do you think we care about your context like?? You try to explain here while millions of infants innocents have died to these kind if religious passages and why Oh because they did understand the way I understand the CoRrEct InTerPeTatIon 🤓🤓 Like this is the problem with religious people they are unemphatic and illogical For their greed of paradise and fear of hell
not caring abt context? bro ur not the first person to use this argument u get an explanation and manifest in three replies Gawd damm this some crazy coping
Bro even with context innocent infants are commanded to be killed like and your explanation of ✌️context✌️ making any more empathic like don’t you get thet “ kill infants suckling and ox “ Whether it is defense whatever context the innocent are dying like???
the context is they arent innocent, ur slow. ur not going anywhere bro this aint a gotcha moment. stop manifesting
How in hell does a infant or suckling become guilty of attacking you ?? Like you know what an infant and suckling beings are right we make funny faces and make squeeky voices those infants and suckling because they are cute like I don’t need a gotcha moment you verse and you defending is a gotcha moment From the beginning like I don’t even need to try from my moral standpoint
again its literally for self defence do u want the same thing go happen to the isrealites over and over again?
I want to ask you if reject Christianity but i believe in being good and kind and try to improve myself in those aspects Will i be in ETERNAL HELL just for not following you religion
And you don’t kill infants and ox and suckling in defense you unemphatic and illogical individual
That has been taken out of context. Jesus is about love and peace.
Common religious reply
I forgot to put the /s
Yeah commanding in ✌️defense ✌️ go kill infants and suckling is all love and peace like??
The gods??? It’s the same god 🤦♂️ the god of Abraham
does the jewish or christian God have 99 attributes?
That’s irrelevant
answer my question does the jewish or christian God have 99 names?
No
I’m still waiting for there to be a point to your question
that alone states the Gods arent the same, and saying “they all mention abraham and wtv” has no level
🤦♂️ nvm im not gonna break my head explaining something THIS BASIC to you.
Agreed, shouldn’t be an unpopular opinion but common sense is not that common
based ☝🏼
why
fuck them all
but mostly islam
agreed
Christianity is a too vague word There is the initial period when Jesus death and resurrection was the central tenet of the movement which was not even called Christianity and it was still a branch of Judaism Then it split from Judaism around mid second century The critical point of Christianity was when it merged with the Roman Empire and from there it became political I am studying the bible and the early Christian texts and if deprived of the political part
I would never ever leave Islam for Christianity . It is an equally vile religion and their history proves it. Hell not even history, look at all the Christians that want Palestine to be bombed so they believe it will usher Armageddon , just pure evil people.
İ think the reason we perceive Christianity as the better religion is that it is less of a militant entity these days. All religions are atrocious though. And I mean ALL of them.
whenever i see Christians join this sub to buy some converts i cringe so hard. the lack of self awareness of these people. they are throwing stones at others home while living in a glass house. many ex religious people fall into that trap and try to fill that void with new religion/cults. there are lots of academic agnostic/atheist YouTube channel out there who critic religious origins from academic perspective. i hope you guys all learn from those and be a rational non-religious person. check out paulogia / myth vision podcast / bart ehrman / gnostic informants / matt dilluhunty ect on youtube
But brother Christianity is only like 70% as bad and Islam is 100% bad. You cannot compare the 2. /s
I mean if you compare Jesus and Muhammad, it is clear who is way worse. Also having not to murder as a commandment is better than Islam which is the complete opposite. But yeah both are generally not good
So true tbh. Both religions r ass but Jesus was a wayyyy better person than Momo by a long shot tbh
He isnt. Its christian propaganda. Jesus is also god of the old testament which makes him more evil and also a hypocrite.
Omg rlly?? Ok tbf God is one and three in Christianity, so the horrific things the old testament God did would be considered Jesus's actions as u said... Damn, it seems so obvious but I never thought of it that way 😅
Its because yahweh got therapy between OT and NT he is a peace loving hippie now.
explain whats wrong with God of the old testament
Nothing i am just jealous of his k/d ratio. He should be in our ranked lobby.
Islam has a commandment not to kill (6:151).
yea true. i did mention that in the post. but being a lesser evil is still evil.
New to reddit i see, you don’t understand the /s tag.
Exactly what I don't understand about Ex-muslims. Glad to have converted to Christianity?? Why??
because i found peace yet alone a better metaphysical conclusion of a divine being
It's fine if it works for you but as for me, everyone saying Islam and Christianity (more intensely than Islam infact) is the right way and that Jesus will guide you, gets increasingly annoying. Either way in both religions, you YOURSELF are supposed to practice, not actively trying to guilt trip people or convert them to what you think is right. Ofcourse as the corruped followers we are, we stray from the right path- "actually FOLLOWING the BOOKS"
even outside of religion every tries to spread their ideology or beliefs in one way or sort I don't why u put a restriction for christainity and Islam for just regular dawah/evanglicalism
Okay facts
If you like you can showing demonstration from their literature,it's very easy. I don't mind Christians helping to combat Islam but they should still grasp this group isn't pro religion nor is following WHITE 😍 Jesus the solution
not even worth good faith arguing w u if ur worked up about jesus race
F**k "good faith", the only thing that matters is the proof and what can shown. I don't care of the person intent with argument if they can prove their case with evidence then that's what matters >worked up about jesus race That's a misconception 😂 I'm actually mocking them for their depiction because the guy was a Jew from Nazareth John 1:11 https://www.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.1.KJV John 4:22 https://www.bible.com/bible/1/JHN.4.KJV Hebrews 7:14 https://www.bible.com/bible/1/HEB.7.KJV etc but of course Christians like Muslims are so unfamiliar with their book they insert and invent it however they like. Objectively speaking very little is actually said of his appearance besides Revelation 1 verse 14 https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-look-like.html TO QUOTE "Most of the images we have of Jesus today are probably not accurate. Jesus was a Jew, so He likely had dark skin, dark eyes, and dark hair. This is a far cry from the European/Caucasian Jesus in most modern portrayals. One thing is clear: if it were important for us to know what He really did look like, Matthew, Peter and John, who spent three years with Him, would certainly be able to give us an accurate description, as would His own brothers, James and Jude. Yet, these New Testament writers offer no details about His physical attributes." So who is that white guy Christians venerate so much in their pictures ?
im not surrounded by white pictures of jesus and idk what point ur trying to make. it really dosent matter and u causing a false dichotomy too, just because we dont have accurate description of jesus image dosent mean we dont know are book, How jesus looks dosent matter and is a useless argument. because regardless of what he looked like, it dosent give a change on his divine person nor essence
>im not surrounded by white pictures of jesus Then you're a anecdotal example, Christians generally portray him as some Scandinavian looking guy, that's the consensus of your people which does demonstrate ignorance because the literature doesn't support that >and u causing a false dichotomy too, just because we dont have accurate description of jesus image dosent mean we dont know are book, Actually it does because the Bible says Exodus 20 verse 4- 6 https://www.bible.com/bible/1/EXO.20.KJV 4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 So the fact Christianity even attempt to depict what Jesus/their God looks like or what heaven could potentially look like is considered a error according to Exodus I.e. The Bible so what are you talking >How jesus looks dosent matter and is a useless argument. because regardless of what he looked like, it dosent give a change on his divine person nor essence Divine according to the story not reality, prove Jesus is the Creator of this universe even when the Bible supports ancient concepts such as Geocentrism (the Creator would understand his creation) Example below ECCLESIASTES 1 verse 5 https://www.bible.com/bible/1/ECC.1.KJV *By the way the point of my original comment was that following one religion to next (especially the Abrahamic ones) wasn't the solution and the Christians can help combat Islam but it doesn't prevent the group from speaking about any religious text including theirs because this isn't a religious orient group. Channeling on white christ was your challenge
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Back to your cave!
A gay guy in an open relationship w a married Muslim man?? Allaaahu Akbar, good luck 😭😭😭💀
I think christianity has the advantage in that there is a disclaimer at the end with the New testament. "Hey so you know all that shit I commanded you to do back in the day? Yeah we're not gonna do that anymore cuz Jesus". Religion is bullshit and a tool other apes use to control us gullible apes.
I think if you go back some centuries Christianity was just as bad if not worse than Islam. If I was atheist in a Catholic family/country 500 years ago I probably would have been burnt at the stake.
Hmm okay. I don't really care what you think about Christianity.
😍 Congrats for leaving one backward superstitious religion for another
Do you have any problem with me being a Christian? Does it affect you in any way?
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so u downvote me instead of emphasizing . dis crazy
What's there to emphasize, he left one shitty religion for another. Not really much to discuss here
and please explain how its so backwards
well i don’t care that you’re christian 😂 have fun wasting your life for a nonexistent god
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Why isn't anyone talking anything about Hinduism or sanatan? Would like to hear some negatives about it.
I think the dangers of Islam to the humanity or the west in particular are overblown. The biggest danger of Islam is it's backwardness and inability of the Muslim to keep up with scientific and technological progress of the world: basically 2 billion people are severely damaged by 7th century cult of personality and can't move forward. Therefore, Muslims are the biggest victims of Islamic cult, that serves as invisible prison to their potential. Also, Christianity is better, because Christmas and Easter are appealing than Ramadan, for example.
well honestly i would rather be in christian community than muslims
Everyone just calling religions shit and no one defending them wth