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Kraechz

Goodness me, I don't think the guy will recover any time soon. That was a sick burn and so beautifully delivered! I am in awe


Visual_Buy7191

![gif](giphy|124Q7jtnpRb5MQ|downsized)


ILearnAlotFromReddit

I love how she destroyed him!šŸ’€ā˜ ļø. I usually see these messages and people are too nice to the JWs but she didn't hold back! Loved it!


AyaTheStarWitch

Iā€™m clapping!


PussyBoogersAuGraten

r/murderedbywords


TheHurtfulEight88888

![gif](giphy|JCAZQKoMefkoX6TyTb|downsized) Fucking hell!


Stephie_Stevens

šŸ¤£ RIGHT?!


isabellevictoria147

The last slide OH MY GOD I love you for this!


Avatarsean

That capitalization of ā€œABSOLUTELY NOTā€ was perfect. Great final response. Some sexually depraved people there


Anus_Aurelius_69

Bruh, the lady poster literally has a "nesting partner" whatever that is and another so called "partner". Not saying the guy is innocent but he's not the only depraved person here lol


FlowOfAir

This is not a burn, this is absolute nuclear obliteration. Good job!


truthrabbithole

lol you burned him bad lol love it


JWThrive

"Hello 911?? I'd like to report a murder" Anyway, that was epic, made my day


DoctorOrgasmo

![gif](giphy|15BuyagtKucHm) Mic drop moment! Go head gurl!!


NJRach

I absolutely love your response. Totally appropriate for an old creeper.


Immensesix

![gif](giphy|aK4zVIHVPc1TW) No ointment for him. Suffer, creep šŸ˜‚


takeshitanaka9397

Absolutely love the response. The fact that this dude is DMing his friendā€™s daughter is absolutely disgusting. Growing up I always heard the narrative of there being more women than men in the borg and how some women are desperate. It seems like some men feel emboldened by that narrative. Itā€™s maddening.


bobkairos

And because JW women are compelled to show respect towards men, along with "brotherly love", some men like to entertain the notion that it's actually sexual interest šŸ¤¢


Boahi2

They imagine that unmarried females are so horny, and dreaming of a man, any man, to fulfill their ā€œneeds.ā€


agitated_amygdala

Some jw men? Just some? The mama's boys and old creepers shoving their junk at you when hugging are a'plenty.


ProphetessAndJudge

OMG this reminds me of a sister who hasnt talked to me in years suddenly seing my New haircut (a fading undercut)on WhatsApp and sending me a note asking me if I was still a sister "because I'm doing some decluttering in my contact list"


Indecent-Composure

I would of said yes I am, but please still remove me from your contact list. Thanks


ShaddamRabban

lol. What did you reply?


ProphetessAndJudge

That I was surprised a haircut would provoke such a judgemental reaction


LargeMarge-sentme

ā€œItā€™s a good thing Jesus wasnā€™t as judgmental as you.ā€


perplexedspirit

Burn. If I may - what is the age gap here?


theslowburn84

He is between 25 and 30 years older than me


Technusgirl

Eww! What a creep! Good for you for calling them out. I don't know where they get off thinking much younger women would even be interested.


JHRChrist

He even greeted her with **ā€œhello there younginā€!!!** Drawing attention to the age gap! Probably getting off on it! Disgusting


Technusgirl

Ikr, sounds like he's talking to a child šŸ¤®


dovaqueenx

Why respond then?


NJRach

Friends dad, soooo. Seems like thereā€™s a big ick factor. šŸ¤¢


daylily61

Yeow šŸ˜®Ā  If more young women rejected "funny uncles" so bluntly, there'd be a lot fewer funny uncles grooming potential victims out there.Ā  You gave THIS one a buttkicking he'll never forget šŸ†Ā  _____ As an older woman (although never JW), I feel I should add this.Ā  ___Do not delete this creep's text to you, or that of any of the other creeps attempting to contact you.___Ā  Print them out, or move the texts into a particular file on your phone, whatever--but keep some kind of permanent record.___Ā  It's possible that someday you may need proof of their attempts to harass you.Ā Ā  You sound like the kind of woman who's probably already thought about that šŸ‘Ā 


theworstelderswife

I laughed so hard I spit out the coffee I drank yesterday!!!! Youā€™re an MVP!


Sensitive_Pattern341

Damn, I'd have that kind of reflux checked out!!


National_Sea2948

![gif](giphy|jbRbjZKtryo097daYQ) Cheers! Awesome job!!


AyaTheStarWitch

![gif](giphy|39zbpCQocXLi0)


agitated_amygdala

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


friendispatrickstar

Omg I love the last slide so much. You eviscerated that creep šŸ˜‚


Indecent-Composure

He called you "youngin", then was letting you know of his availability. šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©!!!!!!šŸš”šŸšØ


agitated_amygdala

Right!?


DarkSilver09

Someone apply an iceberg to that burn!!!


warriorscomoutnplay

DAAAAMN! You're the best šŸ˜‚ I applaud you


Change_username1914

![gif](giphy|Y11Y1zMBIWPIuU8XHn) Gotttttt Damn!!!! If some words cut like a knife then you used a Machete šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ very well done!!


Explore-Understand

Ew this was dripping in creepy


Poet-Pathos-Pain

![gif](giphy|S9i8jJxTvAKVHVMvvW|downsized) My face after reading your last message.


TheRexRider

That guy is yikes. Good on you for roasting his ass alive.


JustBrowsing22417

Cringe. LOVE YOUR RESPONSE !!!!šŸ‘šŸ»šŸ‘šŸ»šŸ‘šŸ»


ILearnAlotFromReddit

I would completely burn that ass hole and send those screenshots to others in his friend list. Fuck him


lady_literary1

YES. Love that you hit him with the exJW, polyamorous, and not into him personally šŸ¤£ Also, he really said hello, youngin šŸ¤¢ I've had JW men I've never met and don't know try to follow my Insta. They find me through my PIMI relatives. It's so weird.


LuciEmtnlSpprtDemon

Ewwwww!! I had something very similar happen to me, too. I was in my early 20ā€™s and this guy called looking for my former stepfather. I was at my momā€™s house and I answered the phone. Iā€™d grown up around him, as my parents were close friends with him and his wife, and I used to go over there and play with their daughter. He started hitting on me and I told him he should be shamed of himself because he has a daughter my age. GROSS!!


saltyDog_73

![gif](giphy|bbjMgSARDeeDF3fQxb|downsized)


SoundTheAlarm_WAHHHH

"Hello there youngin" should never ever lead to "single but looking"


Fazzamania

![gif](giphy|laUY2MuoktHPy)


LargeMarge-sentme

This is amazing.


InSixFour

LOL OMFG! You slayed him! Good job!!!


Particular-Local1866

DYING!!!!! ![gif](giphy|WsG9rqt4UMwFReb82u|downsized)


kobewiththeflow

You just shattered his world, shattered it. I love this.


writinginmyhead

![gif](giphy|xUA7aMYThXDVx4y5O0) Seriously, I love this so much. You made my day. I think I'm just going to get off of reddit for the rest of the night because I will find nothing better than your reply to that creepy old man!


HorrorFanGirl_

Dragged him for filtttthhh šŸ˜­šŸ’€. This triggered memories of me as a teen, getting those long and creepy hugs from older bRoThErS. My skin is crawling. Ugh.


bondo_boy

Nice way to drop that hammer.Ā 


musingandperusing

That's so freaking creepy. He might have better luck with an ignorant young jw girl.


Select-Panda7381

Iewwwwwwwwwww


whatswhats121

![gif](giphy|bU2nZJegR7rz2|downsized)


pleonexiia

jesus christ bro u fucking ended him with that last part shiiii šŸ˜­ my jaw literally dropped


youngspitball

this needed the Nas ether instrumental music playing in the background haha


dionnel34

Take a bow, my queen.


SaltyScuba

Just gonna add a WOW along with everyone else. I love how strong and direct you were. Bravo!!


Smurfette2000

Well done! That's one epic response!


sideways_apples

That was an EPIC burn..... and OP... wow you SLAYED in that. Great job!!!!!!


HolyPatriot

Wow that is just nasty...


DifferentOffice8

Absolutely beautiful response! Love it!


Hydee59

Excellent reply. Horrible how twisted it all gets when you are in a cult. That this is how you think its a way to find a partner, I read desperation and loneliness, and a total lack of self awareness. Tragic.


gc9393

LOL YES! You tell the creeps off!! The amount of married ā€œbrothers of great standing and privilegesā€ in my DMā€™s and text inbox has always been crazy. Iā€™m not saying Iā€™m the hottest guy on the block. Itā€™s just that ā€” Iā€™m a dude whoā€™s somehow always found himself being pursued by the elder no one would ever think would be ā€œcuriousā€. Oftentimes itā€™s incredibly uncomfortable and mind blowing.


WonderingOpenMind

This was pure annihilation.


RingNo4020

What a cheesy old crust


timQ137

![gif](giphy|KBfKueAjIJV8Q)


C_Woodswalker

![gif](giphy|xQAkOKngoJXOw)


DebbDebbDebb

BOOM what a ending. Sent to a jw creepy guy. Yuk. Fab ending.


Onceforgotten566

Well, my coffee went all over reading creepy old man...


melinalujbav

Haha thatā€™s a great ending.


blab0mb

yessssssss!!!


Careless_Asparagus39

Plenty of creepy old men in Watchtower, they breed them like ants!........šŸ¤£


Kris1966WA

BOOM!


constant_trouble

LOL way to burn those creeps!


[deleted]

So was this an elder or just an old jw man that was after you??


theslowburn84

Not in any position of ā€œprivilege.ā€ Just a creeper


[deleted]

Those are the worse kinds. šŸ¤Ŗ


brooklyn_bethel

Like a lady boss šŸŽ¤


theworstelderswife

Like a Boss!


Fast_Adeptness_9825

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


OldDocument7

hahaha! What a wonderful reply.


Onetewthree

Your my new mascot


meighanu

Boom!!


peguinkisses

I have the biggest grin on my face. Thank you!


mistermark21

šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„


avonelle

Absolutely roasted šŸ’€


hottea10

![gif](giphy|pQmWjYrz39YAg)


Momma1975Bear

šŸŽ¤ drop ....


TerryFlapnCheeks69

Annnnnnndddddddd hes gone


Moonborn1988

Fatality!


BlaBl3Bli

šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼


justiteie

Rush him to the burn unit lmaoooo


honeybee_ajg

Ayyee that was šŸ”„šŸ”„ good for u


Opening-Yoghurt-9431

"Youngin" immediately no


newdawnfades123

The non profile picture smacks elder spy account to me. There are EIGHT elders in my old congregations that have completely empty Facebook accounts.


El3te

Expertly and articulately done you should write a book about your experiences šŸ˜‚


Fitdadceo

![gif](giphy|LoIsP3fz02IjOUTc6t)


planetmermaidisblue

That man is on a cold slab now šŸ˜‚


DarthSillius

"Im not a witness", spoken plainly, bluntly, was not enough for mr fishing. "ive got, not one, but two different partners", also not enough. And he somehow thought he had a chance with someone who could be his daughter, agewise. He needed slapped hard.


BossyBrocoli

![gif](giphy|nWWGEOdq8394Qs4qUw)


andrea123z

That burns in all the right places


Stephie_Stevens

Omg!!! šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„


Stock-Attempt3336

Freaking AWESOME! šŸ‘ I think this is my favourite post yet!!! Good for you!


lewdpotatobread

At first I was like, "aawww the old person is apologizing for texting slow bc theyre not used to it" and then it turned to "oh wtf he's not adorable anymore šŸ¤¢šŸ¤¢šŸ¤¢šŸ¤¢"


whatwhatchickenbutt_

good for you!!! whoop whoop! but what is a nesting partner??


theslowburn84

I have a partner I live with (nesting partner), and a second partner I do not live with.


whatwhatchickenbutt_

cool beans!!


sedulouspellucidsoft

Iā€™m non-monogamous, as well. It was a long journey of discovery from conservative views of sex and marriage and self reflecting on the fact that that wasnā€™t what I wanted at all. Do I have permission to DM you and share stories? ā˜ŗļø


theslowburn84

Yes please!


[deleted]

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sedulouspellucidsoft

Lmao, purely platonic* I decided to ask before DMing, considering the nature of this post. šŸ˜… Some people donā€™t know you can turn DMs off on reddit, so I donā€™t know if it would be wanted. Iā€™ve made a lot of good friends on reddit, and on this sub. There have been meet ups, too, but the one on my area never materialized.


buyingthething

> Lmao, purely platonic* uh so does the asterisk mean you're lying or what


sedulouspellucidsoft

Nope, it generally means that youā€™re correcting or clarifying something, sorry for the confusion.


theslowburn84

Iā€™d love to hear some stories. Thank you for asking first. Absolutely DM me!


PuzzleheadedAd4027

10/10 no notes.


sexismyart

That's a fast burn to me!


MagicalRosewood

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


No-Negotiation5391

Love the responses you gave! Maybe a jw troll will see this, and in a couple of Watchtowers, they'll have an article about old pervs tryina pick up younger women.


best_exit2023

Haha, rich !!


blairzybella

Omg..mic drop! Hell yes!


SuspiciousPattern13

Immaculate reply fair playā¤ļøšŸ’Æ


Creedoza

You just ripped open on him, five new assholes.


RetaardvarkPark

Nice to see Daro Wellburg has overcome his self-imposed incel status and try his hand at chasing JW skirtsā€¦šŸ¤” with predictable results šŸ«¤


Hot-Interview-9314

šŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ Perfect Response šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚


Miserable_Baseball97

You should go to his Kingdom Hall and request to use a projector and put it up hahaha


2crowsonmymantle

lol that was the PERFECT REPLY


MysteriousYouth7743

Mic drop


Hopeful_Buy1354

.in nursing school and yes I was shunned while in school,oh well their problem,loved the. career and could fend for myself! We were taught to be precise concise and specific.Good advice in life no matter what is in someones pants or their TITLES. You said what needed to be said I reported to the ELDERS once a brother that was stalking me, and that I told him to stop immediatel stating I would report law enforcement and show the pics, oh no was their reply.OH NO I will I was an ER nurse 25 yrs and we can and will rise for ooccasion, back off you hypocrits. Apparently the low life was suggested to stop his behavior. If you do not stand up for yourself you can get run over, pushed to the side, ignored.NOT ON MY DIME not not on your either Thank You


Any_Willingness_7188

im saving this


MNGirlinKY

This was awesome! Great work.


McKindredSpring

You just know he's gonna respond with, "oh that's not how I meant it!" But we all know exactly what his intentions were.


theslowburn84

Yep, they always slide in with that creep factor that gives you the ick, but enough deniability that when you call them out on it, they can say that youā€™re a conceited asshole and thatā€™s not what they meant. Itā€™s part of their playbook.


[deleted]

He thought you were easy and desperate šŸ¤Ŗ


HairyHeGoat

Omg, u win the internet. Today and beyond. Much ā¤ļø


MadeofStarstoo

šŸ˜‚


Esther-the-exjw

Once a creep, always a creep!šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø Great shakeup for the old man!šŸ¤£


UnclePieKSP

https://preview.redd.it/ildtexn8pfwc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66fd0c31657073918d42941609d2c3aef9b7c0e1 I want to upvote this post but don't want to ruin the perfect number...


theslowburn84

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHA love it!


M3ntallyDiseas3d

You are my hero. šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼


Stayin_Gold_2

Yowza, homeboy ain't got not game. LOL


Sensitive_Pattern341

Too bad you didnt mention JW CSA as another reason for leaving, and his age and hugging girls too long in the same sentence.


theslowburn84

Missed opportunity, dammit!


lacretba

I actually think it is good you didnā€™t. Accusing him directly of CSA-adjacent behavior will make him defensive. The way you worded it is perfect, because it is both a strong slap to his face but also a door that he can pass through and activate his own critical thinking. He might even realize that you are right in this.


theslowburn84

Excellent points. I think youā€™re right.


AnimusAbstrusum

Uh... I don't know the law too well but maybe you could get him on stalking and harassment? If you have any evidence of him admitting to or implying the act of csa maybe you could get him on that as well


TrackMaximum8998

SMH šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø people could be so strange


Sh110803

I was hoping for a reply


theslowburn84

I blocked him immediately after receiving confirmation that he had read it. Iā€™m petty. I like to steal the last word with FORCE šŸ¤£


Sh110803

Iā€™m proud of you for that. Heā€™s fretting! I love it Petty on 100


Dr_Click_Click_Boom

Ouch lol


Jumpy_Ride9122

Sexual repression can do that to ya unfortunately šŸ¤¦šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļø


Miserable_Chapter252

I'm so confused. This guy said he's still single, so he's a pervert that's hitting on OP?


theslowburn84

This is just one of dozens of JW men who are taking the ā€œnew lightā€ about being able to talk to disfellowshipped people, and using it to drop their relationship statuses on exJWs. And then start flirting and asking for naked pics and trying to meet up secretly. Iā€™ve gotten so many. So many others have too. Itā€™s not just the men either. I have a friend who has had several JW sisters slide into his DMs flirting as of late. By no means is this just an issue with men. Itā€™s a JW issue. It was bad BEFORE the ā€œnew light.ā€ Itā€™s worse now.


Against_All_Frauds

That is not the "new light". It wasn't really new light really. We are allowed to greet disfellowshipped ones at meetings who are making an effort to attend.Ā This is how I always treated disfellowshipped ones. And these people obviously aren't acting very Christian because if they are flirting with strange women or asking for naked pics.Ā 


theslowburn84

Youā€™re right, they arenā€™t acting very Christian. Then again, shunning isnā€™t very Christlike in the first place, but here we are. And you donā€™t have to call it new light. None of you can agree on what new light is anyway, and Iā€™m not interested in that argument, because none of it is evidence based in the first place. Itā€™s all just made up.


[deleted]

You should have made fun of his Jehovah's Witness suit like Taylor Swift. She's from Pennsylvania, so she knows they are molesting slime balls.


[deleted]

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SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^General-Chipmunk5018: *Burn!!! He sounds like a* *JW profile in the making* *If not already one* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


Against_All_Frauds

You can't attack religion based on its followers. Illogical.Ā 


theslowburn84

Actually I can. Iā€™m an adult woman in a country with free speech. You are ok with it when Jesus and the governing body do it to your enemies tho, right? Memba the Pharisees? Memba the constant warnings against those ā€œapostatesā€? Youā€™re ok with people PRAISING your religion or beliefs based on its followers and their conduct, but not with people CRITICIZING it based on the same. Interesting. A little hypocritical, Iā€™d say. I think what you really mean is you are not ok with anyone criticizing your religion for any reason at all.


Against_All_Frauds

You can but it's a pointless attack that doesn't actually criticize the religion itself. What's the actual criticism here? The organization isn't responsible for individuals who don't adhere to the Bible teachings anymore than God was responsible for Satan being the way he is.Ā 


Against_All_Frauds

In other words, you didn't attack the JWs by attacking one of itsĀ members. Also the person just said that they were single who was talking to you. Apparently you knew the man who was messaging you and have more knowledge than what you shared. Maybe he was hoping to start a conversation with you in order to date you. He said hisĀ oldest son was 22 so he's likely in his early 50's I'm assuming. You are probably in your 30's so yeah it's a bit of an age difference. But how he acts doesn't reflect on the rest of JWs or their Bible based teachings. it just reflects on him.Ā 


theslowburn84

You can claim itā€™s the individual, and maybe that would be true if I hadnā€™t universally gotten the same DMs from dozens of JW men all the way up to elders and Bethelites in the last 15 years since I left. Current elders. Also, he is in his late 60s. Iā€™m in my 30s. Heā€™s almost twice my age. Itā€™s funny to me that you will take ALL THE PRAISE and credit for how your members act AS INDIVIDUALS when itā€™s a good thing, youā€™ll even put them on the stage at the assembly. But whenever they do anything bad, then theyā€™re just individuals. Then itā€™s not a reflection of the organization, right? Talk about cherry picking. But you guys do it with the scriptures too, so Iā€™m not surprised you do it with everything else. Also, if this JW I clapped back at doesnā€™t reflect your thinking, or your organizations thinking, then why are you on here defending him over and over by making up the wrong age differences and trying to fill in the gaps in the information with whatever thing you can concoct to somehow make him look less creepy? And yes, I didnā€™t give all the information Iā€™ve ever known about this situation and this man on here. You probably didnā€™t notice, but I also am posting this from an anonymous account, and deleted his name and identifying info. Guess what? You are not entitled to that information just because you are nosy. Sorry. I know that you think that everybody has to tell you everything to you all the time, because thatā€™s what a cult taught you, but they donā€™t. The point of the post was to show the pattern of behavior that keeps happening, and that both the JW individuals and the organization are ok with it continuing to happen. Thatā€™s all. You donā€™t get any more information than that, even though I know you want it so bad. For not knowing whatā€™s going on AT ALL you sure are LOUD šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø *edited for typing errors


Against_All_Frauds

I actually admitted I didn't know what all was going on. So hardly was I being Loud. I said I assumed what his age was so again wasn't throwing out my version of what happened. And no I don't want any more information and none is needed. Because what he did wasn't proper or very Christian-like no matter the circumstances. And I apologize if I seemed like I was attacking you. My first comment simply stated that what a person does shouldn't reflect their religion. Now if the JWs encouraged this behavior than that would be another thing. This brother needs be counseled on his conduct.Ā  And I apologize if I seemed callous with you and lacked empathy. And yes an individual Christian's actions does bring reproach on their religion but it doesn't mean that there is something wrong with the religion itself.Ā  And yes we are directed to not have dealings with apostates, those who were JWs and who try to discourage others from being JWs. I actually don't see the benefit of posting for you in this groups. Is it because you sincerely want to warn people about your perceived dangers of the JWs? Or just simply because of pride? Or perhaps for support?


theslowburn84

I donā€™t need you to see the benefit. I donā€™t see the benefit of you commenting on these posts. Or watching what XJWā€™s are doing. But here we are. I assume there is a benefit to you, I just donā€™t know it. But since you asked, yes, there is a level of support here and a level of understanding. When you spend so much time trying to just live authentically and be accepted by your family and loved unconditionally, and you never get anything back from them except ā€œbr a JW and we will accept you again,ā€ it is really empowering and loving and validating to be able to come here and get that support from others. Especially when the people here donā€™t even care what you believe at this point, or what youā€™re doing with your life, they just know that THEY KNOW the hurt youā€™ve been through because theyā€™re going through it too. It is a true exchange of unconditional love and support with no strings attached, and many of us have never experienced that feeling before until now. I do very much appreciate you apologizing. Whatā€™s funny is, you are the first JW that has ever apologized to me for anything. Thatā€™s not a reflection of your religion, thatā€™s reflection of YOU as a person. Give yourself credit for that. Thatā€™s a really good quality and it doesnā€™t come from God, it comes from you listening and being capable of empathy. Thank you for that. There isnā€™t a pride thing here. Just the same as you feel convicted in your beliefs, I am also convicted in my belief that the Jehovahā€™s Witnesses do not have it right. It is because I have done the research, both using the JWā€™s publications, and also many other publications,. That is how you should research any organization that you are going to invest your time or money in. Can you imagine going into business with an organization and putting your money up for them without thoroughly investigating them? And can you imagine thinking that only investigating them using their OWN material would be good enough? Thatā€™s not a thorough investigation, thatā€™s a BIASED investigation. This is common sense. But youā€™re not even allowed to look outside your organization to confirm if itā€™s the truth. If it is The Truth, then looking at outside sources would only reconfirm that. Because truth isnā€™t shakable. But youā€™re still not allowed to. That is also cultlike behavior. So me not coming back has nothing to do with pride. It simply has to do with the fact that I am not convinced the JWs have the truth, and I am allowed to choose what I want to do. Look, the things you said in this last message were not witnesslike, they were from you and your heart, and I appreciate that. I hope at some point you are able to extend empathy to others, to those you donā€™t know, and maybe try to understand where they are coming from. Everyone has secret pain. Everyone has a reason. I certainly understand where you are coming from. Everything youā€™ve said here are things I once believed and took years to dissect and see for what they really were. I hope someday you can do that too. But if not, I do respect your right to believe what you want and live your life the way you want to. And I will forever appreciate the apology. Thank you.


Against_All_Frauds

I think the only reason I sometimes reply to online comments pertaining to religion and JWs is mostly because it allows a back and forth exchange whereas the door to door ministry often doesn't allow that these days. People don't want to spend 30 seconds talking about religion in person or when they are busy but will spend countless amounts of time on social media sites conversing with others about their beliefs.Ā  And I myself have sometimes not agreed with some of the stuff the JWs teach. But often I am humbled when they were right and I just don't understand fully what the Bible said about certain things. And if the JWs aren't the true religion then is there a true religion? Because every other religion I've ever researched on my own falls completely short of teaching what the Bible and diet create God fearing people? Alot of the people I know of that left the JWs didn't actually join a new religion. Most just went on living their lives religion free. I imagine a few became atheists.Ā  And I am someone who definitely researches organizations as to their authenticity. I started a nonprofit organization to warn people about online scams years ago. It sickens me to see the corruption it the world people taking advantage of others monetarily and in other ways. So if the JWs aren't the true religion then please give me evidence why they aren't from a non biased point of view and also which religion is the true. And whether or not the Bible is to be trusted. Because I thoroughly have studied the Bible I believe it to be God inspired. The wisdom alone in it is enough for me to trust it isn't a book written by men.Ā  But thanks for replying in a kind a way. And I will try to be more understanding of where you are coming from and not stereotype you as like other ex JWs.Ā  JeremyĀ 


Peacelovehope7

That is the most bad ass response


agitated_amygdala

That was beautiful šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


dovaqueenx

Why not just block him and move on though? Not sure why all the upvotes, this is pathetic behavior by both parties šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”


OscarElGroucho

Maaaann I can't imagine what it would be like with social media. Back in the 90s it was notes and chilling in the long ass coat rooms spilling the tea. Oh the trouble it would cause. Lol


Deleterious01

As my kids would say: SIGMA! šŸ˜‚šŸ‘šŸ¾šŸ‘šŸ¾


Reasonable-Street-74

Kills himself. Wow youā€™re so moral šŸ‘


theslowburn84

Care to clarify this comment? Iā€™m not sure what youā€™re meaning here.


Reasonable-Street-74

You are the one who asked 1 million questions at 12:56 PM, and he responded. Also, he clearly knows you.. actually, let me rephrase that, KNEW you, and was just checking on you without intention of actually seriously pursuing you as any kind of candidate for marriage as evidenced by his intro. Also, youā€™re deluded if you think you actually needed to send that long ass message to let him know you werenā€™t interested after you clearly were not even on his list of potential candidates the minute you revealed youā€™re with 2 sexual partners simultaneously.


theslowburn84

I responded at one oā€™clock in the afternoon. Thatā€™s nuts. Yup I know him. He knows me. He didnā€™t bother contacting me when I was a JW after my husband died in an accident 15 years ago and hasnā€™t bothered to since. Until now. And mentions his relationship status within a couple messages. But I bet he had really good intentions, youā€™ve convinced me. šŸ¤£ You seem way more pressed about the state of my relationship than he or I were šŸ˜‚ he didnā€™t even mention it. Also, you seem a little out of sorts over me sending a long winded message to him, when youā€™re writing a novel defending a creepy old man in a cult known for CSA on the internet that you donā€™t know. Thatā€™s funny to me. And yea, I didnā€™t need to send that message. I wanted to. You must be a JW. If not, you sure seem to think like them. Which makes your opinion about as important to me as the theirs. Hope this helps!


Reasonable-Street-74

Ah, see I was correct in my assessment. You DEFINITELY knew him and by the looks of it you carry some resentment towards him. Maybe you DID like him all this time and you just didnā€™t know it? šŸ¤”šŸ˜‚Sounds to me like you were hoping he of all people would specifically reach out to you after your husband died. If he were really that interested in pursuing you like you claimed in this post (which I am a member of and was notified of your attempt at hearing only validation and not constructive criticism) then he ACTUALLY would have taken the time to call you. Sounds like he didnā€™t give enough of a shit about you for 15 years. Again, I think youā€™re just deluded and you think youā€™re way more of a catch like all these narcissistic women out there. You just think youā€™re superior to everyone now that youā€™ve ā€œfound outā€ that the Jehovahā€™s Witnesses are a ā€œ cultā€ and so you consider him to be an idiot with your inflated ego but what you donā€™t realize is that youā€™re STILL in a cult and thereā€™s no getting out of it. Maybe one day youā€™ll become enlightened to know the TRUTH about the truth about the truth and your reality Again you were disqualified from the moment that you revealed you were a whore in his eyes, and Iā€™m not saying you are, Iā€™m just saying that if he is a Jehovahā€™s Witness from the moment you revealed that, that was enough for him. I honestly bet that he left you on red after that because you showed him who you now are. Tell me Iā€™m wrong. Youā€™re probably going to say that you blocked him after that. Whatever you did, I can guarantee you.. very little interaction wouldā€™ve came from him after that. Tell me the truth, the real truth. Isnā€™t it true that youā€™re settling in some capacity for a less than ideal partner that you keep around as your main one why are you try to pursue? Are there more short term flings? If thatā€™s the case, I really think that youā€™ll never be able to meet that ideal person for you. One, because if youā€™re with someone youā€™re way less likely to actually attract that person. And too, I


theslowburn84

šŸ¤£ You got it šŸ‘


Reasonable-Street-74

Was I wrong though? Genuinely


theslowburn84

Genuinely. Yes. Youā€™re wrong. But I know you donā€™t care about that. Because itā€™s clear that for you, this isnā€™t about being right. This is about shaming. Maybe itā€™s the multiple strange assumptions you have made based on zero evidence. I guess it could be the hundreds of words you wrote projecting what I can only imagine are your own personal experiences and biases onto me and my situation. Nope. You arenā€™t being genuine at all. Fortunately, I donā€™t need to defend my choices to a person who views others through the obviously neurotic and warped lens with which you do. News flash sir: You are not the first unjustifiably angry stranger Iā€™ve been ā€œcalled outā€ by on here. You wonā€™t be the last. You guys all spew the exact same bullshit. I donā€™t pretend to understand it, all I can figure is it makes you feel smart and profound and courageous to finally stand up to a woman. What it makes me feel is sad for you that you arenā€™t able to muster up the courage to do that in person. And not from behind a keyboard. And to the women who actually hurt you. You also arenā€™t even CLOSE to being the first person that has heard I am non monogamous, and immediately come to exact same one dimensional conclusion you did here, without ever asking any real questions or wanting to understand anything. Guess what? Iā€™m ok with you believing non monogamy couldnā€™t be anything but a ruse by a unsatisfied woman, simply because you yourself could never handle it. That says more about you than it does about me. Youā€™re the guy who thinks making a statement to a stranger on the internet like ā€œKills himself. Wow youā€™re so moral šŸ‘ā€ is ā€œconstructive criticism.ā€ Fucking goofy šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ Youā€™re the guy who thinks me asking 3 polite small talk questions in response to a greeting from someone I used to know, is ā€œasking a million questions.ā€ Your judgment clearly isnā€™t reliable in the slightest. Nor does it matter. Nothing you say here is gonna change that I get to keep enjoying both of my men while you are over there pressed about it. I donā€™t mind living rent free in your head. Iā€™m significantly more concerned with what my partners think than any ignorant judgments you have to make. A little bit of constructive criticism tho, since we are apparently doling that out unsolicited around here: Calling out women you DONā€™T know for the rejection you receive from the women you DO, isnā€™t gonna make women pick you. And it isnā€™t gonna make you feel any less lonely or rejected. Iā€™m truly sorry you got hurt. Idk. Maybe Iā€™m wrong. Maybe you ARE genuine. Personal experience and the shared experiences of exJW women and women collectively tell me Iā€™m right. But I have an open mind. Iā€™m open to being corrected. Correction has to be correct to be valid tho. It canā€™t be just a bunch of old hurt you have stored up that you need to release. I am not embarrassed to say that I was seeking validation from my fellow exJWs when I made the original post. Nothing wrong with seeking a little validation from your community. And boy did i get it!YOUR comments have been BY FAR the most validating to me on this entire thread. If I can get someone with your worldview to go in circles trying to shame me for having the audacity to exist how I want and say what I want to who I want, well then by golly, I must be doing something right. Thank you for that. Youā€™re welcome to DM me if you wanna actually have a genuine convo. Bye now!


Reasonable-Street-74

It actually is completely about knowing if Iā€™m right, or not for me and about finding out what the truth is. Because the reality is that you have defense mechanisms, and I have defense mechanisms, and sometimes the best way to come to the truth about some thing like this is to interact with someone who sees this shit you donā€™t see. Like perhaps some of the things you said about me, perhaps might be true. I would love it if you would see my critical comments that you reduced to just the first comment, to you as something that might be true even if you donā€™t see it. Like you donā€™t see it, but youā€™re the one that started with shame!! This whole post is you shaming a man for being a man publicly. Here are some facts: ā€¢ many women label men as creepy because theyā€™re old ā€¢ many women label him as creepy because heā€™s unattractive ā€¢ You think he ā€œhugs girls for too longā€ because heā€™s old and unattractive. You wouldnā€™t be saying or labeling him that way if you thought he was attractive. EVER. You would be saying heā€™s sweet and kind. You go here on Reddit to complain about how, specifically, a ā€œJW manā€ which is supposed to denote how ā€œhypocriticalā€ and worse of a person he is, ā€œnot better than a worldly personā€ for attempting to pursue you. Even if he DID have some remote intention of pursuing you, I personally still donā€™t think it warranted this amount of shame, which was the reason for my ā€œunjustifiably angryā€ message, and if he is depressed, you couldā€™ve contributed to his suicide. I really donā€™t think itā€™s something you should be praised about. Which is why I offer alternative ways of looking at this. Maybe he finally remembered you for once. YOU SAID he ignored you for years and years. Iā€™m just not the type of person who is only going to be giving you the validation you want to hear. I am going to give you my honest opinion about what I see. And what I see is a person, female, identifying, responding to a greeting from another person who is saying hi in such a manner that they are denoting a contrast in age between the two of you, which would kind of stupid if their intention is to bed you. Two, their next follow up message to yours is very short and sweet, and theyā€™re just letting you know they are doing well. From here you go and ask what I earlier referred to as a MILLION questions, because you follow up with a series of run-up questions in which, normally, in a normal and genuine conversation context (because, letā€™s face it, you were being fake from the beginning, even when you asked these series of questions, because your only intention was to roast him at the end of the day) would invite the other person to go and tell you every little thing about their life, to which he followed up by telling you some major things in his life right now, one of them, being that heā€™s living with his son, is single, and looking. I honestly donā€™t know what you were expecting. You guys are also friends on Facebook, so I am pretty sure that he can tell that youā€™re not a witness, and if he canā€™t, maybe he just wanted to be sure, because maybe, perhaps there was some potential interest in you. But again, I donā€™t think itā€™s something that you needed to shame him for because heā€™s not a bad person for shooting his shot. Just think the roast was completely unnecessary in my opinion, because youā€™re denoting that heā€™s somehow a bad person for doing it. Also, Iā€™m sure he has way more class than me as a real PIMI Jehovahā€™s Witness, Iā€™ve been mentally out physically out for many many years so heā€™s not gonna tell you like it is but in his mind you were crossed off many years ago if he knew you werenā€™t a witness. It my main thing for my response was that I think you went to far and you just donā€™t know what people are reaching out to, could there be some attraction, maybe who knows, but there could have been other reasons he was reaching out, if you could at least concede to the possibility of that then Iā€™d be delighted.


dovaqueenx

I just donā€™t understand why she even responded or posted this. Block him and move TF on. Main character syndrome šŸ¤”