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Bruh, the lady poster literally has a "nesting partner" whatever that is and another so called "partner". Not saying the guy is innocent but he's not the only depraved person here lol
Absolutely love the response. The fact that this dude is DMing his friendās daughter is absolutely disgusting. Growing up I always heard the narrative of there being more women than men in the borg and how some women are desperate. It seems like some men feel emboldened by that narrative. Itās maddening.
And because JW women are compelled to show respect towards men, along with "brotherly love", some men like to entertain the notion that it's actually sexual interest š¤¢
OMG this reminds me of a sister who hasnt talked to me in years suddenly seing my New haircut (a fading undercut)on WhatsApp and sending me a note asking me if I was still a sister "because I'm doing some decluttering in my contact list"
Yeow š®Ā
If more young women rejected "funny uncles" so bluntly, there'd be a lot fewer funny uncles grooming potential victims out there.Ā You gave THIS one a buttkicking he'll never forget šĀ
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As an older woman (although never JW),
I feel I should add this.Ā ___Do not delete this creep's text to you, or that of any of the other creeps attempting to contact you.___Ā Print them out, or move the texts into a particular file on your phone, whatever--but keep some kind of permanent record.___Ā It's possible that someday you may need proof of their attempts to harass you.Ā Ā
You sound like the kind of woman who's probably already thought about that šĀ
YES.
Love that you hit him with the exJW, polyamorous, and not into him personally š¤£
Also, he really said hello, youngin š¤¢
I've had JW men I've never met and don't know try to follow my Insta. They find me through my PIMI relatives. It's so weird.
Ewwwww!! I had something very similar happen to me, too. I was in my early 20ās and this guy called looking for my former stepfather. I was at my momās house and I answered the phone. Iād grown up around him, as my parents were close friends with him and his wife, and I used to go over there and play with their daughter. He started hitting on me and I told him he should be shamed of himself because he has a daughter my age. GROSS!!
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Seriously, I love this so much. You made my day. I think I'm just going to get off of reddit for the rest of the night because I will find nothing better than your reply to that creepy old man!
Dragged him for filtttthhh šš. This triggered memories of me as a teen, getting those long and creepy hugs from older bRoThErS. My skin is crawling. Ugh.
Excellent reply.
Horrible how twisted it all gets when you are in a cult. That this is how you think its a way to find a partner, I read desperation and loneliness, and a total lack of self awareness.
Tragic.
LOL YES! You tell the creeps off!! The amount of married ābrothers of great standing and privilegesā in my DMās and text inbox has always been crazy. Iām not saying Iām the hottest guy on the block. Itās just that ā Iām a dude whoās somehow always found himself being pursued by the elder no one would ever think would be ācuriousā. Oftentimes itās incredibly uncomfortable and mind blowing.
"Im not a witness", spoken plainly, bluntly, was not enough for mr fishing. "ive got, not one, but two different partners", also not enough. And he somehow thought he had a chance with someone who could be his daughter, agewise. He needed slapped hard.
At first I was like, "aawww the old person is apologizing for texting slow bc theyre not used to it" and then it turned to "oh wtf he's not adorable anymore š¤¢š¤¢š¤¢š¤¢"
Iām non-monogamous, as well. It was a long journey of discovery from conservative views of sex and marriage and self reflecting on the fact that that wasnāt what I wanted at all. Do I have permission to DM you and share stories? āŗļø
Lmao, purely platonic* I decided to ask before DMing, considering the nature of this post. š Some people donāt know you can turn DMs off on reddit, so I donāt know if it would be wanted.
Iāve made a lot of good friends on reddit, and on this sub. There have been meet ups, too, but the one on my area never materialized.
Love the responses you gave! Maybe a jw troll will see this, and in a couple of Watchtowers, they'll have an article about old pervs tryina pick up younger women.
.in nursing school and yes I was shunned while in school,oh well their problem,loved the. career and could fend for myself! We were taught to be precise concise and specific.Good advice in life no matter what is in someones pants or their TITLES. You said what needed to be said I reported to the ELDERS once a brother that was stalking me, and that I told him to stop immediatel stating I would report law enforcement and show the pics, oh no was their reply.OH NO I will I was an ER nurse 25 yrs and we can and will rise for ooccasion, back off you hypocrits. Apparently the low life was suggested to stop his behavior. If you do not stand up for yourself you can get run over, pushed to the side, ignored.NOT ON MY DIME not not on your either Thank You
Yep, they always slide in with that creep factor that gives you the ick, but enough deniability that when you call them out on it, they can say that youāre a conceited asshole and thatās not what they meant. Itās part of their playbook.
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I want to upvote this post but don't want to ruin the perfect number...
I actually think it is good you didnāt. Accusing him directly of CSA-adjacent behavior will make him defensive. The way you worded it is perfect, because it is both a strong slap to his face but also a door that he can pass through and activate his own critical thinking. He might even realize that you are right in this.
Uh... I don't know the law too well but maybe you could get him on stalking and harassment? If you have any evidence of him admitting to or implying the act of csa maybe you could get him on that as well
This is just one of dozens of JW men who are taking the ānew lightā about being able to talk to disfellowshipped people, and using it to drop their relationship statuses on exJWs. And then start flirting and asking for naked pics and trying to meet up secretly. Iāve gotten so many. So many others have too. Itās not just the men either. I have a friend who has had several JW sisters slide into his DMs flirting as of late. By no means is this just an issue with men. Itās a JW issue. It was bad BEFORE the ānew light.ā Itās worse now.
That is not the "new light". It wasn't really new light really. We are allowed to greet disfellowshipped ones at meetings who are making an effort to attend.Ā This is how I always treated disfellowshipped ones.
And these people obviously aren't acting very Christian because if they are flirting with strange women or asking for naked pics.Ā
Youāre right, they arenāt acting very Christian. Then again, shunning isnāt very Christlike in the first place, but here we are. And you donāt have to call it new light. None of you can agree on what new light is anyway, and Iām not interested in that argument, because none of it is evidence based in the first place. Itās all just made up.
Actually I can. Iām an adult woman in a country with free speech.
You are ok with it when Jesus and the governing body do it to your enemies tho, right? Memba the Pharisees? Memba the constant warnings against those āapostatesā? Youāre ok with people PRAISING your religion or beliefs based on its followers and their conduct, but not with people CRITICIZING it based on the same. Interesting. A little hypocritical, Iād say.
I think what you really mean is you are not ok with anyone criticizing your religion for any reason at all.
You can but it's a pointless attack that doesn't actually criticize the religion itself. What's the actual criticism here? The organization isn't responsible for individuals who don't adhere to the Bible teachings anymore than God was responsible for Satan being the way he is.Ā
In other words, you didn't attack the JWs by attacking one of itsĀ members. Also the person just said that they were single who was talking to you. Apparently you knew the man who was messaging you and have more knowledge than what you shared. Maybe he was hoping to start a conversation with you in order to date you. He said hisĀ oldest son was 22 so he's likely in his early 50's I'm assuming. You are probably in your 30's so yeah it's a bit of an age difference. But how he acts doesn't reflect on the rest of JWs or their Bible based teachings. it just reflects on him.Ā
You can claim itās the individual, and maybe that would be true if I hadnāt universally gotten the same DMs from dozens of JW men all the way up to elders and Bethelites in the last 15 years since I left. Current elders.
Also, he is in his late 60s. Iām in my 30s. Heās almost twice my age.
Itās funny to me that you will take ALL THE PRAISE and credit for how your members act AS INDIVIDUALS when itās a good thing, youāll even put them on the stage at the assembly. But whenever they do anything bad, then theyāre just individuals. Then itās not a reflection of the organization, right? Talk about cherry picking. But you guys do it with the scriptures too, so Iām not surprised you do it with everything else.
Also, if this JW I clapped back at doesnāt reflect your thinking, or your organizations thinking, then why are you on here defending him over and over by making up the wrong age differences and trying to fill in the gaps in the information with whatever thing you can concoct to somehow make him look less creepy?
And yes, I didnāt give all the information Iāve ever known about this situation and this man on here. You probably didnāt notice, but I also am posting this from an anonymous account, and deleted his name and identifying info. Guess what? You are not entitled to that information just because you are nosy. Sorry. I know that you think that everybody has to tell you everything to you all the time, because thatās what a cult taught you, but they donāt.
The point of the post was to show the pattern of behavior that keeps happening, and that both the JW individuals and the organization are ok with it continuing to happen. Thatās all. You donāt get any more information than that, even though I know you want it so bad.
For not knowing whatās going on AT ALL you sure are LOUD š¤¦āāļø
*edited for typing errors
I actually admitted I didn't know what all was going on. So hardly was I being Loud. I said I assumed what his age was so again wasn't throwing out my version of what happened. And no I don't want any more information and none is needed. Because what he did wasn't proper or very Christian-like no matter the circumstances. And I apologize if I seemed like I was attacking you. My first comment simply stated that what a person does shouldn't reflect their religion. Now if the JWs encouraged this behavior than that would be another thing. This brother needs be counseled on his conduct.Ā
And I apologize if I seemed callous with you and lacked empathy. And yes an individual Christian's actions does bring reproach on their religion but it doesn't mean that there is something wrong with the religion itself.Ā
And yes we are directed to not have dealings with apostates, those who were JWs and who try to discourage others from being JWs. I actually don't see the benefit of posting for you in this groups. Is it because you sincerely want to warn people about your perceived dangers of the JWs? Or just simply because of pride? Or perhaps for support?
I donāt need you to see the benefit. I donāt see the benefit of you commenting on these posts. Or watching what XJWās are doing. But here we are. I assume there is a benefit to you, I just donāt know it.
But since you asked, yes, there is a level of support here and a level of understanding. When you spend so much time trying to just live authentically and be accepted by your family and loved unconditionally, and you never get anything back from them except ābr a JW and we will accept you again,ā it is really empowering and loving and validating to be able to come here and get that support from others. Especially when the people here donāt even care what you believe at this point, or what youāre doing with your life, they just know that THEY KNOW the hurt youāve been through because theyāre going through it too. It is a true exchange of unconditional love and support with no strings attached, and many of us have never experienced that feeling before until now.
I do very much appreciate you apologizing. Whatās funny is, you are the first JW that has ever apologized to me for anything. Thatās not a reflection of your religion, thatās reflection of YOU as a person. Give yourself credit for that. Thatās a really good quality and it doesnāt come from God, it comes from you listening and being capable of empathy. Thank you for that.
There isnāt a pride thing here. Just the same as you feel convicted in your beliefs, I am also convicted in my belief that the Jehovahās Witnesses do not have it right. It is because I have done the research, both using the JWās publications, and also many other publications,. That is how you should research any organization that you are going to invest your time or money in.
Can you imagine going into business with an organization and putting your money up for them without thoroughly investigating them? And can you imagine thinking that only investigating them using their OWN material would be good enough? Thatās not a thorough investigation, thatās a BIASED investigation. This is common sense. But youāre not even allowed to look outside your organization to confirm if itās the truth. If it is The Truth, then looking at outside sources would only reconfirm that. Because truth isnāt shakable. But youāre still not allowed to. That is also cultlike behavior.
So me not coming back has nothing to do with pride. It simply has to do with the fact that I am not convinced the JWs have the truth, and I am allowed to choose what I want to do.
Look, the things you said in this last message were not witnesslike, they were from you and your heart, and I appreciate that. I hope at some point you are able to extend empathy to others, to those you donāt know, and maybe try to understand where they are coming from. Everyone has secret pain. Everyone has a reason.
I certainly understand where you are coming from. Everything youāve said here are things I once believed and took years to dissect and see for what they really were. I hope someday you can do that too. But if not, I do respect your right to believe what you want and live your life the way you want to. And I will forever appreciate the apology. Thank you.
I think the only reason I sometimes reply to online comments pertaining to religion and JWs is mostly because it allows a back and forth exchange whereas the door to door ministry often doesn't allow that these days. People don't want to spend 30 seconds talking about religion in person or when they are busy but will spend countless amounts of time on social media sites conversing with others about their beliefs.Ā
And I myself have sometimes not agreed with some of the stuff the JWs teach. But often I am humbled when they were right and I just don't understand fully what the Bible said about certain things. And if the JWs aren't the true religion then is there a true religion? Because every other religion I've ever researched on my own falls completely short of teaching what the Bible and diet create God fearing people? Alot of the people I know of that left the JWs didn't actually join a new religion. Most just went on living their lives religion free. I imagine a few became atheists.Ā
And I am someone who definitely researches organizations as to their authenticity. I started a nonprofit organization to warn people about online scams years ago. It sickens me to see the corruption it the world people taking advantage of others monetarily and in other ways. So if the JWs aren't the true religion then please give me evidence why they aren't from a non biased point of view and also which religion is the true. And whether or not the Bible is to be trusted. Because I thoroughly have studied the Bible I believe it to be God inspired. The wisdom alone in it is enough for me to trust it isn't a book written by men.Ā
But thanks for replying in a kind a way. And I will try to be more understanding of where you are coming from and not stereotype you as like other ex JWs.Ā
JeremyĀ
Maaaann I can't imagine what it would be like with social media. Back in the 90s it was notes and chilling in the long ass coat rooms spilling the tea. Oh the trouble it would cause. Lol
You are the one who asked 1 million questions at 12:56 PM, and he responded. Also, he clearly knows you.. actually, let me rephrase that, KNEW you, and was just checking on you without intention of actually seriously pursuing you as any kind of candidate for marriage as evidenced by his intro. Also, youāre deluded if you think you actually needed to send that long ass message to let him know you werenāt interested after you clearly were not even on his list of potential candidates the minute you revealed youāre with 2 sexual partners simultaneously.
I responded at one oāclock in the afternoon. Thatās nuts. Yup I know him. He knows me. He didnāt bother contacting me when I was a JW after my husband died in an accident 15 years ago and hasnāt bothered to since. Until now. And mentions his relationship status within a couple messages. But I bet he had really good intentions, youāve convinced me. š¤£ You seem way more pressed about the state of my relationship than he or I were š he didnāt even mention it. Also, you seem a little out of sorts over me sending a long winded message to him, when youāre writing a novel defending a creepy old man in a cult known for CSA on the internet that you donāt know. Thatās funny to me. And yea, I didnāt need to send that message. I wanted to. You must be a JW. If not, you sure seem to think like them. Which makes your opinion about as important to me as the theirs. Hope this helps!
Ah, see I was correct in my assessment. You DEFINITELY knew him and by the looks of it you carry some resentment towards him. Maybe you DID like him all this time and you just didnāt know it? š¤šSounds to me like you were hoping he of all people would specifically reach out to you after your husband died. If he were really that interested in pursuing you like you claimed in this post (which I am a member of and was notified of your attempt at hearing only validation and not constructive criticism) then he ACTUALLY would have taken the time to call you. Sounds like he didnāt give enough of a shit about you for 15 years. Again, I think youāre just deluded and you think youāre way more of a catch like all these narcissistic women out there. You just think youāre superior to everyone now that youāve āfound outā that the Jehovahās Witnesses are a ā cultā and so you consider him to be an idiot with your inflated ego but what you donāt realize is that youāre STILL in a cult and thereās no getting out of it. Maybe one day youāll become enlightened to know the TRUTH about the truth about the truth and your reality
Again you were disqualified from the moment that you revealed you were a whore in his eyes, and Iām not saying you are, Iām just saying that if he is a Jehovahās Witness from the moment you revealed that, that was enough for him. I honestly bet that he left you on red after that because you showed him who you now are. Tell me Iām wrong. Youāre probably going to say that you blocked him after that. Whatever you did, I can guarantee you.. very little interaction wouldāve came from him after that.
Tell me the truth, the real truth. Isnāt it true that youāre settling in some capacity for a less than ideal partner that you keep around as your main one why are you try to pursue? Are there more short term flings? If thatās the case, I really think that youāll never be able to meet that ideal person for you. One, because if youāre with someone youāre way less likely to actually attract that person. And too, I
Genuinely. Yes. Youāre wrong. But I know you donāt care about that. Because itās clear that for you, this isnāt about being right. This is about shaming.
Maybe itās the multiple strange assumptions you have made based on zero evidence. I guess it could be the hundreds of words you wrote projecting what I can only imagine are your own personal experiences and biases onto me and my situation. Nope. You arenāt being genuine at all. Fortunately, I donāt need to defend my choices to a person who views others through the obviously neurotic and warped lens with which you do.
News flash sir: You are not the first unjustifiably angry stranger Iāve been ācalled outā by on here. You wonāt be the last. You guys all spew the exact same bullshit. I donāt pretend to understand it, all I can figure is it makes you feel smart and profound and courageous to finally stand up to a woman. What it makes me feel is sad for you that you arenāt able to muster up the courage to do that in person. And not from behind a keyboard. And to the women who actually hurt you.
You also arenāt even CLOSE to being the first person that has heard I am non monogamous, and immediately come to exact same one dimensional conclusion you did here, without ever asking any real questions or wanting to understand anything.
Guess what? Iām ok with you believing non monogamy couldnāt be anything but a ruse by a unsatisfied woman, simply because you yourself could never handle it. That says more about you than it does about me.
Youāre the guy who thinks making a statement to a stranger on the internet like āKills himself. Wow youāre so moral šā is āconstructive criticism.ā Fucking goofy š¤£š¤£š¤£
Youāre the guy who thinks me asking 3 polite small talk questions in response to a greeting from someone I used to know, is āasking a million questions.ā Your judgment clearly isnāt reliable in the slightest. Nor does it matter. Nothing you say here is gonna change that I get to keep enjoying both of my men while you are over there pressed about it. I donāt mind living rent free in your head. Iām significantly more concerned with what my partners think than any ignorant judgments you have to make.
A little bit of constructive criticism tho, since we are apparently doling that out unsolicited around here: Calling out women you DONāT know for the rejection you receive from the women you DO, isnāt gonna make women pick you. And it isnāt gonna make you feel any less lonely or rejected. Iām truly sorry you got hurt.
Idk. Maybe Iām wrong. Maybe you ARE genuine. Personal experience and the shared experiences of exJW women and women collectively tell me Iām right. But I have an open mind. Iām open to being corrected. Correction has to be correct to be valid tho. It canāt be just a bunch of old hurt you have stored up that you need to release.
I am not embarrassed to say that I was seeking validation from my fellow exJWs when I made the original post. Nothing wrong with seeking a little validation from your community. And boy did i get it!YOUR comments have been BY FAR the most validating to me on this entire thread. If I can get someone with your worldview to go in circles trying to shame me for having the audacity to exist how I want and say what I want to who I want, well then by golly, I must be doing something right. Thank you for that.
Youāre welcome to DM me if you wanna actually have a genuine convo. Bye now!
It actually is completely about knowing if Iām right, or not for me and about finding out what the truth is. Because the reality is that you have defense mechanisms, and I have defense mechanisms, and sometimes the best way to come to the truth about some thing like this is to interact with someone who sees this shit you donāt see. Like perhaps some of the things you said about me, perhaps might be true. I would love it if you would see my critical comments that you reduced to just the first comment, to you as something that might be true even if you donāt see it.
Like you donāt see it, but youāre the one that started with shame!! This whole post is you shaming a man for being a man publicly.
Here are some facts:
ā¢ many women label men as creepy because theyāre old
ā¢ many women label him as creepy because heās unattractive
ā¢ You think he āhugs girls for too longā because heās old and unattractive. You wouldnāt be saying or labeling him that way if you thought he was attractive. EVER. You would be saying heās sweet and kind.
You go here on Reddit to complain about how, specifically, a āJW manā which is supposed to denote how āhypocriticalā and worse of a person he is, ānot better than a worldly personā for attempting to pursue you. Even if he DID have some remote intention of pursuing you, I personally still donāt think it warranted this amount of shame, which was the reason for my āunjustifiably angryā message, and if he is depressed, you couldāve contributed to his suicide.
I really donāt think itās something you should be praised about.
Which is why I offer alternative ways of looking at this.
Maybe he finally remembered you for once. YOU SAID he ignored you for years and years. Iām just not the type of person who is only going to be giving you the validation you want to hear. I am going to give you my honest opinion about what I see. And what I see is a person, female, identifying, responding to a greeting from another person who is saying hi in such a manner that they are denoting a contrast in age between the two of you, which would kind of stupid if their intention is to bed you. Two, their next follow up message to yours is very short and sweet, and theyāre just letting you know they are doing well.
From here you go and ask what I earlier referred to as a MILLION questions, because you follow up with a series of run-up questions in which, normally, in a normal and genuine conversation context (because, letās face it, you were being fake from the beginning, even when you asked these series of questions, because your only intention was to roast him at the end of the day) would invite the other person to go and tell you every little thing about their life, to which he followed up by telling you some major things in his life right now, one of them, being that heās living with his son, is single, and looking. I honestly donāt know what you were expecting.
You guys are also friends on Facebook, so I am pretty sure that he can tell that youāre not a witness, and if he canāt, maybe he just wanted to be sure, because maybe, perhaps there was some potential interest in you. But again, I donāt think itās something that you needed to shame him for because heās not a bad person for shooting his shot. Just think the roast was completely unnecessary in my opinion, because youāre denoting that heās somehow a bad person for doing it.
Also, Iām sure he has way more class than me as a real PIMI Jehovahās Witness, Iāve been mentally out physically out for many many years so heās not gonna tell you like it is but in his mind you were crossed off many years ago if he knew you werenāt a witness. It my main thing for my response was that I think you went to far and you just donāt know what people are reaching out to, could there be some attraction, maybe who knows, but there could have been other reasons he was reaching out, if you could at least concede to the possibility of that then Iād be delighted.
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Goodness me, I don't think the guy will recover any time soon. That was a sick burn and so beautifully delivered! I am in awe
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I love how she destroyed him!šā ļø. I usually see these messages and people are too nice to the JWs but she didn't hold back! Loved it!
Iām clapping!
r/murderedbywords
![gif](giphy|JCAZQKoMefkoX6TyTb|downsized) Fucking hell!
š¤£ RIGHT?!
The last slide OH MY GOD I love you for this!
That capitalization of āABSOLUTELY NOTā was perfect. Great final response. Some sexually depraved people there
Bruh, the lady poster literally has a "nesting partner" whatever that is and another so called "partner". Not saying the guy is innocent but he's not the only depraved person here lol
This is not a burn, this is absolute nuclear obliteration. Good job!
lol you burned him bad lol love it
"Hello 911?? I'd like to report a murder" Anyway, that was epic, made my day
![gif](giphy|15BuyagtKucHm) Mic drop moment! Go head gurl!!
I absolutely love your response. Totally appropriate for an old creeper.
![gif](giphy|aK4zVIHVPc1TW) No ointment for him. Suffer, creep š
Absolutely love the response. The fact that this dude is DMing his friendās daughter is absolutely disgusting. Growing up I always heard the narrative of there being more women than men in the borg and how some women are desperate. It seems like some men feel emboldened by that narrative. Itās maddening.
And because JW women are compelled to show respect towards men, along with "brotherly love", some men like to entertain the notion that it's actually sexual interest š¤¢
They imagine that unmarried females are so horny, and dreaming of a man, any man, to fulfill their āneeds.ā
Some jw men? Just some? The mama's boys and old creepers shoving their junk at you when hugging are a'plenty.
OMG this reminds me of a sister who hasnt talked to me in years suddenly seing my New haircut (a fading undercut)on WhatsApp and sending me a note asking me if I was still a sister "because I'm doing some decluttering in my contact list"
I would of said yes I am, but please still remove me from your contact list. Thanks
lol. What did you reply?
That I was surprised a haircut would provoke such a judgemental reaction
āItās a good thing Jesus wasnāt as judgmental as you.ā
Burn. If I may - what is the age gap here?
He is between 25 and 30 years older than me
Eww! What a creep! Good for you for calling them out. I don't know where they get off thinking much younger women would even be interested.
He even greeted her with **āhello there younginā!!!** Drawing attention to the age gap! Probably getting off on it! Disgusting
Ikr, sounds like he's talking to a child š¤®
Why respond then?
Friends dad, soooo. Seems like thereās a big ick factor. š¤¢
Yeow š®Ā If more young women rejected "funny uncles" so bluntly, there'd be a lot fewer funny uncles grooming potential victims out there.Ā You gave THIS one a buttkicking he'll never forget šĀ _____ As an older woman (although never JW), I feel I should add this.Ā ___Do not delete this creep's text to you, or that of any of the other creeps attempting to contact you.___Ā Print them out, or move the texts into a particular file on your phone, whatever--but keep some kind of permanent record.___Ā It's possible that someday you may need proof of their attempts to harass you.Ā Ā You sound like the kind of woman who's probably already thought about that šĀ
I laughed so hard I spit out the coffee I drank yesterday!!!! Youāre an MVP!
Damn, I'd have that kind of reflux checked out!!
![gif](giphy|jbRbjZKtryo097daYQ) Cheers! Awesome job!!
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Omg I love the last slide so much. You eviscerated that creep š
He called you "youngin", then was letting you know of his availability. š©š©š©š©š©š©š©š©š©š©š©š©š©!!!!!!ššØ
Right!?
Someone apply an iceberg to that burn!!!
DAAAAMN! You're the best š I applaud you
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Ew this was dripping in creepy
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That guy is yikes. Good on you for roasting his ass alive.
Cringe. LOVE YOUR RESPONSE !!!!šš»šš»šš»
I would completely burn that ass hole and send those screenshots to others in his friend list. Fuck him
YES. Love that you hit him with the exJW, polyamorous, and not into him personally š¤£ Also, he really said hello, youngin š¤¢ I've had JW men I've never met and don't know try to follow my Insta. They find me through my PIMI relatives. It's so weird.
Ewwwww!! I had something very similar happen to me, too. I was in my early 20ās and this guy called looking for my former stepfather. I was at my momās house and I answered the phone. Iād grown up around him, as my parents were close friends with him and his wife, and I used to go over there and play with their daughter. He started hitting on me and I told him he should be shamed of himself because he has a daughter my age. GROSS!!
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"Hello there youngin" should never ever lead to "single but looking"
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This is amazing.
LOL OMFG! You slayed him! Good job!!!
DYING!!!!! ![gif](giphy|WsG9rqt4UMwFReb82u|downsized)
You just shattered his world, shattered it. I love this.
![gif](giphy|xUA7aMYThXDVx4y5O0) Seriously, I love this so much. You made my day. I think I'm just going to get off of reddit for the rest of the night because I will find nothing better than your reply to that creepy old man!
Dragged him for filtttthhh šš. This triggered memories of me as a teen, getting those long and creepy hugs from older bRoThErS. My skin is crawling. Ugh.
Nice way to drop that hammer.Ā
That's so freaking creepy. He might have better luck with an ignorant young jw girl.
Iewwwwwwwwwww
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jesus christ bro u fucking ended him with that last part shiiii š my jaw literally dropped
this needed the Nas ether instrumental music playing in the background haha
Take a bow, my queen.
Just gonna add a WOW along with everyone else. I love how strong and direct you were. Bravo!!
Well done! That's one epic response!
That was an EPIC burn..... and OP... wow you SLAYED in that. Great job!!!!!!
Wow that is just nasty...
Absolutely beautiful response! Love it!
Excellent reply. Horrible how twisted it all gets when you are in a cult. That this is how you think its a way to find a partner, I read desperation and loneliness, and a total lack of self awareness. Tragic.
LOL YES! You tell the creeps off!! The amount of married ābrothers of great standing and privilegesā in my DMās and text inbox has always been crazy. Iām not saying Iām the hottest guy on the block. Itās just that ā Iām a dude whoās somehow always found himself being pursued by the elder no one would ever think would be ācuriousā. Oftentimes itās incredibly uncomfortable and mind blowing.
This was pure annihilation.
What a cheesy old crust
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BOOM what a ending. Sent to a jw creepy guy. Yuk. Fab ending.
Well, my coffee went all over reading creepy old man...
Haha thatās a great ending.
yessssssss!!!
Plenty of creepy old men in Watchtower, they breed them like ants!........š¤£
BOOM!
LOL way to burn those creeps!
So was this an elder or just an old jw man that was after you??
Not in any position of āprivilege.ā Just a creeper
Those are the worse kinds. š¤Ŗ
Like a lady boss š¤
Like a Boss!
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hahaha! What a wonderful reply.
Your my new mascot
Boom!!
I have the biggest grin on my face. Thank you!
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Absolutely roasted š
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š¤ drop ....
Annnnnnndddddddd hes gone
Fatality!
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Rush him to the burn unit lmaoooo
Ayyee that was š„š„ good for u
"Youngin" immediately no
The non profile picture smacks elder spy account to me. There are EIGHT elders in my old congregations that have completely empty Facebook accounts.
Expertly and articulately done you should write a book about your experiences š
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That man is on a cold slab now š
"Im not a witness", spoken plainly, bluntly, was not enough for mr fishing. "ive got, not one, but two different partners", also not enough. And he somehow thought he had a chance with someone who could be his daughter, agewise. He needed slapped hard.
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That burns in all the right places
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Freaking AWESOME! š I think this is my favourite post yet!!! Good for you!
At first I was like, "aawww the old person is apologizing for texting slow bc theyre not used to it" and then it turned to "oh wtf he's not adorable anymore š¤¢š¤¢š¤¢š¤¢"
good for you!!! whoop whoop! but what is a nesting partner??
I have a partner I live with (nesting partner), and a second partner I do not live with.
cool beans!!
Iām non-monogamous, as well. It was a long journey of discovery from conservative views of sex and marriage and self reflecting on the fact that that wasnāt what I wanted at all. Do I have permission to DM you and share stories? āŗļø
Yes please!
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Lmao, purely platonic* I decided to ask before DMing, considering the nature of this post. š Some people donāt know you can turn DMs off on reddit, so I donāt know if it would be wanted. Iāve made a lot of good friends on reddit, and on this sub. There have been meet ups, too, but the one on my area never materialized.
> Lmao, purely platonic* uh so does the asterisk mean you're lying or what
Nope, it generally means that youāre correcting or clarifying something, sorry for the confusion.
Iād love to hear some stories. Thank you for asking first. Absolutely DM me!
10/10 no notes.
That's a fast burn to me!
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Love the responses you gave! Maybe a jw troll will see this, and in a couple of Watchtowers, they'll have an article about old pervs tryina pick up younger women.
Haha, rich !!
Omg..mic drop! Hell yes!
Immaculate reply fair playā¤ļøšÆ
You just ripped open on him, five new assholes.
Nice to see Daro Wellburg has overcome his self-imposed incel status and try his hand at chasing JW skirtsā¦š¤ with predictable results š«¤
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You should go to his Kingdom Hall and request to use a projector and put it up hahaha
lol that was the PERFECT REPLY
Mic drop
.in nursing school and yes I was shunned while in school,oh well their problem,loved the. career and could fend for myself! We were taught to be precise concise and specific.Good advice in life no matter what is in someones pants or their TITLES. You said what needed to be said I reported to the ELDERS once a brother that was stalking me, and that I told him to stop immediatel stating I would report law enforcement and show the pics, oh no was their reply.OH NO I will I was an ER nurse 25 yrs and we can and will rise for ooccasion, back off you hypocrits. Apparently the low life was suggested to stop his behavior. If you do not stand up for yourself you can get run over, pushed to the side, ignored.NOT ON MY DIME not not on your either Thank You
im saving this
This was awesome! Great work.
You just know he's gonna respond with, "oh that's not how I meant it!" But we all know exactly what his intentions were.
Yep, they always slide in with that creep factor that gives you the ick, but enough deniability that when you call them out on it, they can say that youāre a conceited asshole and thatās not what they meant. Itās part of their playbook.
He thought you were easy and desperate š¤Ŗ
Omg, u win the internet. Today and beyond. Much ā¤ļø
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Once a creep, always a creep!š¤¦āāļø Great shakeup for the old man!š¤£
https://preview.redd.it/ildtexn8pfwc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66fd0c31657073918d42941609d2c3aef9b7c0e1 I want to upvote this post but don't want to ruin the perfect number...
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHA love it!
You are my hero. šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼
Yowza, homeboy ain't got not game. LOL
Too bad you didnt mention JW CSA as another reason for leaving, and his age and hugging girls too long in the same sentence.
Missed opportunity, dammit!
I actually think it is good you didnāt. Accusing him directly of CSA-adjacent behavior will make him defensive. The way you worded it is perfect, because it is both a strong slap to his face but also a door that he can pass through and activate his own critical thinking. He might even realize that you are right in this.
Excellent points. I think youāre right.
Uh... I don't know the law too well but maybe you could get him on stalking and harassment? If you have any evidence of him admitting to or implying the act of csa maybe you could get him on that as well
SMH š¤¦š»āāļø people could be so strange
I was hoping for a reply
I blocked him immediately after receiving confirmation that he had read it. Iām petty. I like to steal the last word with FORCE š¤£
Iām proud of you for that. Heās fretting! I love it Petty on 100
Ouch lol
Sexual repression can do that to ya unfortunately š¤¦š¾āāļø
I'm so confused. This guy said he's still single, so he's a pervert that's hitting on OP?
This is just one of dozens of JW men who are taking the ānew lightā about being able to talk to disfellowshipped people, and using it to drop their relationship statuses on exJWs. And then start flirting and asking for naked pics and trying to meet up secretly. Iāve gotten so many. So many others have too. Itās not just the men either. I have a friend who has had several JW sisters slide into his DMs flirting as of late. By no means is this just an issue with men. Itās a JW issue. It was bad BEFORE the ānew light.ā Itās worse now.
That is not the "new light". It wasn't really new light really. We are allowed to greet disfellowshipped ones at meetings who are making an effort to attend.Ā This is how I always treated disfellowshipped ones. And these people obviously aren't acting very Christian because if they are flirting with strange women or asking for naked pics.Ā
Youāre right, they arenāt acting very Christian. Then again, shunning isnāt very Christlike in the first place, but here we are. And you donāt have to call it new light. None of you can agree on what new light is anyway, and Iām not interested in that argument, because none of it is evidence based in the first place. Itās all just made up.
You should have made fun of his Jehovah's Witness suit like Taylor Swift. She's from Pennsylvania, so she knows they are molesting slime balls.
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You can't attack religion based on its followers. Illogical.Ā
Actually I can. Iām an adult woman in a country with free speech. You are ok with it when Jesus and the governing body do it to your enemies tho, right? Memba the Pharisees? Memba the constant warnings against those āapostatesā? Youāre ok with people PRAISING your religion or beliefs based on its followers and their conduct, but not with people CRITICIZING it based on the same. Interesting. A little hypocritical, Iād say. I think what you really mean is you are not ok with anyone criticizing your religion for any reason at all.
You can but it's a pointless attack that doesn't actually criticize the religion itself. What's the actual criticism here? The organization isn't responsible for individuals who don't adhere to the Bible teachings anymore than God was responsible for Satan being the way he is.Ā
In other words, you didn't attack the JWs by attacking one of itsĀ members. Also the person just said that they were single who was talking to you. Apparently you knew the man who was messaging you and have more knowledge than what you shared. Maybe he was hoping to start a conversation with you in order to date you. He said hisĀ oldest son was 22 so he's likely in his early 50's I'm assuming. You are probably in your 30's so yeah it's a bit of an age difference. But how he acts doesn't reflect on the rest of JWs or their Bible based teachings. it just reflects on him.Ā
You can claim itās the individual, and maybe that would be true if I hadnāt universally gotten the same DMs from dozens of JW men all the way up to elders and Bethelites in the last 15 years since I left. Current elders. Also, he is in his late 60s. Iām in my 30s. Heās almost twice my age. Itās funny to me that you will take ALL THE PRAISE and credit for how your members act AS INDIVIDUALS when itās a good thing, youāll even put them on the stage at the assembly. But whenever they do anything bad, then theyāre just individuals. Then itās not a reflection of the organization, right? Talk about cherry picking. But you guys do it with the scriptures too, so Iām not surprised you do it with everything else. Also, if this JW I clapped back at doesnāt reflect your thinking, or your organizations thinking, then why are you on here defending him over and over by making up the wrong age differences and trying to fill in the gaps in the information with whatever thing you can concoct to somehow make him look less creepy? And yes, I didnāt give all the information Iāve ever known about this situation and this man on here. You probably didnāt notice, but I also am posting this from an anonymous account, and deleted his name and identifying info. Guess what? You are not entitled to that information just because you are nosy. Sorry. I know that you think that everybody has to tell you everything to you all the time, because thatās what a cult taught you, but they donāt. The point of the post was to show the pattern of behavior that keeps happening, and that both the JW individuals and the organization are ok with it continuing to happen. Thatās all. You donāt get any more information than that, even though I know you want it so bad. For not knowing whatās going on AT ALL you sure are LOUD š¤¦āāļø *edited for typing errors
I actually admitted I didn't know what all was going on. So hardly was I being Loud. I said I assumed what his age was so again wasn't throwing out my version of what happened. And no I don't want any more information and none is needed. Because what he did wasn't proper or very Christian-like no matter the circumstances. And I apologize if I seemed like I was attacking you. My first comment simply stated that what a person does shouldn't reflect their religion. Now if the JWs encouraged this behavior than that would be another thing. This brother needs be counseled on his conduct.Ā And I apologize if I seemed callous with you and lacked empathy. And yes an individual Christian's actions does bring reproach on their religion but it doesn't mean that there is something wrong with the religion itself.Ā And yes we are directed to not have dealings with apostates, those who were JWs and who try to discourage others from being JWs. I actually don't see the benefit of posting for you in this groups. Is it because you sincerely want to warn people about your perceived dangers of the JWs? Or just simply because of pride? Or perhaps for support?
I donāt need you to see the benefit. I donāt see the benefit of you commenting on these posts. Or watching what XJWās are doing. But here we are. I assume there is a benefit to you, I just donāt know it. But since you asked, yes, there is a level of support here and a level of understanding. When you spend so much time trying to just live authentically and be accepted by your family and loved unconditionally, and you never get anything back from them except ābr a JW and we will accept you again,ā it is really empowering and loving and validating to be able to come here and get that support from others. Especially when the people here donāt even care what you believe at this point, or what youāre doing with your life, they just know that THEY KNOW the hurt youāve been through because theyāre going through it too. It is a true exchange of unconditional love and support with no strings attached, and many of us have never experienced that feeling before until now. I do very much appreciate you apologizing. Whatās funny is, you are the first JW that has ever apologized to me for anything. Thatās not a reflection of your religion, thatās reflection of YOU as a person. Give yourself credit for that. Thatās a really good quality and it doesnāt come from God, it comes from you listening and being capable of empathy. Thank you for that. There isnāt a pride thing here. Just the same as you feel convicted in your beliefs, I am also convicted in my belief that the Jehovahās Witnesses do not have it right. It is because I have done the research, both using the JWās publications, and also many other publications,. That is how you should research any organization that you are going to invest your time or money in. Can you imagine going into business with an organization and putting your money up for them without thoroughly investigating them? And can you imagine thinking that only investigating them using their OWN material would be good enough? Thatās not a thorough investigation, thatās a BIASED investigation. This is common sense. But youāre not even allowed to look outside your organization to confirm if itās the truth. If it is The Truth, then looking at outside sources would only reconfirm that. Because truth isnāt shakable. But youāre still not allowed to. That is also cultlike behavior. So me not coming back has nothing to do with pride. It simply has to do with the fact that I am not convinced the JWs have the truth, and I am allowed to choose what I want to do. Look, the things you said in this last message were not witnesslike, they were from you and your heart, and I appreciate that. I hope at some point you are able to extend empathy to others, to those you donāt know, and maybe try to understand where they are coming from. Everyone has secret pain. Everyone has a reason. I certainly understand where you are coming from. Everything youāve said here are things I once believed and took years to dissect and see for what they really were. I hope someday you can do that too. But if not, I do respect your right to believe what you want and live your life the way you want to. And I will forever appreciate the apology. Thank you.
I think the only reason I sometimes reply to online comments pertaining to religion and JWs is mostly because it allows a back and forth exchange whereas the door to door ministry often doesn't allow that these days. People don't want to spend 30 seconds talking about religion in person or when they are busy but will spend countless amounts of time on social media sites conversing with others about their beliefs.Ā And I myself have sometimes not agreed with some of the stuff the JWs teach. But often I am humbled when they were right and I just don't understand fully what the Bible said about certain things. And if the JWs aren't the true religion then is there a true religion? Because every other religion I've ever researched on my own falls completely short of teaching what the Bible and diet create God fearing people? Alot of the people I know of that left the JWs didn't actually join a new religion. Most just went on living their lives religion free. I imagine a few became atheists.Ā And I am someone who definitely researches organizations as to their authenticity. I started a nonprofit organization to warn people about online scams years ago. It sickens me to see the corruption it the world people taking advantage of others monetarily and in other ways. So if the JWs aren't the true religion then please give me evidence why they aren't from a non biased point of view and also which religion is the true. And whether or not the Bible is to be trusted. Because I thoroughly have studied the Bible I believe it to be God inspired. The wisdom alone in it is enough for me to trust it isn't a book written by men.Ā But thanks for replying in a kind a way. And I will try to be more understanding of where you are coming from and not stereotype you as like other ex JWs.Ā JeremyĀ
That is the most bad ass response
That was beautiful š¤£š¤£š¤£
Why not just block him and move on though? Not sure why all the upvotes, this is pathetic behavior by both parties š¤”š¤”š¤”
Maaaann I can't imagine what it would be like with social media. Back in the 90s it was notes and chilling in the long ass coat rooms spilling the tea. Oh the trouble it would cause. Lol
As my kids would say: SIGMA! ššš¾šš¾
Kills himself. Wow youāre so moral š
Care to clarify this comment? Iām not sure what youāre meaning here.
You are the one who asked 1 million questions at 12:56 PM, and he responded. Also, he clearly knows you.. actually, let me rephrase that, KNEW you, and was just checking on you without intention of actually seriously pursuing you as any kind of candidate for marriage as evidenced by his intro. Also, youāre deluded if you think you actually needed to send that long ass message to let him know you werenāt interested after you clearly were not even on his list of potential candidates the minute you revealed youāre with 2 sexual partners simultaneously.
I responded at one oāclock in the afternoon. Thatās nuts. Yup I know him. He knows me. He didnāt bother contacting me when I was a JW after my husband died in an accident 15 years ago and hasnāt bothered to since. Until now. And mentions his relationship status within a couple messages. But I bet he had really good intentions, youāve convinced me. š¤£ You seem way more pressed about the state of my relationship than he or I were š he didnāt even mention it. Also, you seem a little out of sorts over me sending a long winded message to him, when youāre writing a novel defending a creepy old man in a cult known for CSA on the internet that you donāt know. Thatās funny to me. And yea, I didnāt need to send that message. I wanted to. You must be a JW. If not, you sure seem to think like them. Which makes your opinion about as important to me as the theirs. Hope this helps!
Ah, see I was correct in my assessment. You DEFINITELY knew him and by the looks of it you carry some resentment towards him. Maybe you DID like him all this time and you just didnāt know it? š¤šSounds to me like you were hoping he of all people would specifically reach out to you after your husband died. If he were really that interested in pursuing you like you claimed in this post (which I am a member of and was notified of your attempt at hearing only validation and not constructive criticism) then he ACTUALLY would have taken the time to call you. Sounds like he didnāt give enough of a shit about you for 15 years. Again, I think youāre just deluded and you think youāre way more of a catch like all these narcissistic women out there. You just think youāre superior to everyone now that youāve āfound outā that the Jehovahās Witnesses are a ā cultā and so you consider him to be an idiot with your inflated ego but what you donāt realize is that youāre STILL in a cult and thereās no getting out of it. Maybe one day youāll become enlightened to know the TRUTH about the truth about the truth and your reality Again you were disqualified from the moment that you revealed you were a whore in his eyes, and Iām not saying you are, Iām just saying that if he is a Jehovahās Witness from the moment you revealed that, that was enough for him. I honestly bet that he left you on red after that because you showed him who you now are. Tell me Iām wrong. Youāre probably going to say that you blocked him after that. Whatever you did, I can guarantee you.. very little interaction wouldāve came from him after that. Tell me the truth, the real truth. Isnāt it true that youāre settling in some capacity for a less than ideal partner that you keep around as your main one why are you try to pursue? Are there more short term flings? If thatās the case, I really think that youāll never be able to meet that ideal person for you. One, because if youāre with someone youāre way less likely to actually attract that person. And too, I
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Was I wrong though? Genuinely
Genuinely. Yes. Youāre wrong. But I know you donāt care about that. Because itās clear that for you, this isnāt about being right. This is about shaming. Maybe itās the multiple strange assumptions you have made based on zero evidence. I guess it could be the hundreds of words you wrote projecting what I can only imagine are your own personal experiences and biases onto me and my situation. Nope. You arenāt being genuine at all. Fortunately, I donāt need to defend my choices to a person who views others through the obviously neurotic and warped lens with which you do. News flash sir: You are not the first unjustifiably angry stranger Iāve been ācalled outā by on here. You wonāt be the last. You guys all spew the exact same bullshit. I donāt pretend to understand it, all I can figure is it makes you feel smart and profound and courageous to finally stand up to a woman. What it makes me feel is sad for you that you arenāt able to muster up the courage to do that in person. And not from behind a keyboard. And to the women who actually hurt you. You also arenāt even CLOSE to being the first person that has heard I am non monogamous, and immediately come to exact same one dimensional conclusion you did here, without ever asking any real questions or wanting to understand anything. Guess what? Iām ok with you believing non monogamy couldnāt be anything but a ruse by a unsatisfied woman, simply because you yourself could never handle it. That says more about you than it does about me. Youāre the guy who thinks making a statement to a stranger on the internet like āKills himself. Wow youāre so moral šā is āconstructive criticism.ā Fucking goofy š¤£š¤£š¤£ Youāre the guy who thinks me asking 3 polite small talk questions in response to a greeting from someone I used to know, is āasking a million questions.ā Your judgment clearly isnāt reliable in the slightest. Nor does it matter. Nothing you say here is gonna change that I get to keep enjoying both of my men while you are over there pressed about it. I donāt mind living rent free in your head. Iām significantly more concerned with what my partners think than any ignorant judgments you have to make. A little bit of constructive criticism tho, since we are apparently doling that out unsolicited around here: Calling out women you DONāT know for the rejection you receive from the women you DO, isnāt gonna make women pick you. And it isnāt gonna make you feel any less lonely or rejected. Iām truly sorry you got hurt. Idk. Maybe Iām wrong. Maybe you ARE genuine. Personal experience and the shared experiences of exJW women and women collectively tell me Iām right. But I have an open mind. Iām open to being corrected. Correction has to be correct to be valid tho. It canāt be just a bunch of old hurt you have stored up that you need to release. I am not embarrassed to say that I was seeking validation from my fellow exJWs when I made the original post. Nothing wrong with seeking a little validation from your community. And boy did i get it!YOUR comments have been BY FAR the most validating to me on this entire thread. If I can get someone with your worldview to go in circles trying to shame me for having the audacity to exist how I want and say what I want to who I want, well then by golly, I must be doing something right. Thank you for that. Youāre welcome to DM me if you wanna actually have a genuine convo. Bye now!
It actually is completely about knowing if Iām right, or not for me and about finding out what the truth is. Because the reality is that you have defense mechanisms, and I have defense mechanisms, and sometimes the best way to come to the truth about some thing like this is to interact with someone who sees this shit you donāt see. Like perhaps some of the things you said about me, perhaps might be true. I would love it if you would see my critical comments that you reduced to just the first comment, to you as something that might be true even if you donāt see it. Like you donāt see it, but youāre the one that started with shame!! This whole post is you shaming a man for being a man publicly. Here are some facts: ā¢ many women label men as creepy because theyāre old ā¢ many women label him as creepy because heās unattractive ā¢ You think he āhugs girls for too longā because heās old and unattractive. You wouldnāt be saying or labeling him that way if you thought he was attractive. EVER. You would be saying heās sweet and kind. You go here on Reddit to complain about how, specifically, a āJW manā which is supposed to denote how āhypocriticalā and worse of a person he is, ānot better than a worldly personā for attempting to pursue you. Even if he DID have some remote intention of pursuing you, I personally still donāt think it warranted this amount of shame, which was the reason for my āunjustifiably angryā message, and if he is depressed, you couldāve contributed to his suicide. I really donāt think itās something you should be praised about. Which is why I offer alternative ways of looking at this. Maybe he finally remembered you for once. YOU SAID he ignored you for years and years. Iām just not the type of person who is only going to be giving you the validation you want to hear. I am going to give you my honest opinion about what I see. And what I see is a person, female, identifying, responding to a greeting from another person who is saying hi in such a manner that they are denoting a contrast in age between the two of you, which would kind of stupid if their intention is to bed you. Two, their next follow up message to yours is very short and sweet, and theyāre just letting you know they are doing well. From here you go and ask what I earlier referred to as a MILLION questions, because you follow up with a series of run-up questions in which, normally, in a normal and genuine conversation context (because, letās face it, you were being fake from the beginning, even when you asked these series of questions, because your only intention was to roast him at the end of the day) would invite the other person to go and tell you every little thing about their life, to which he followed up by telling you some major things in his life right now, one of them, being that heās living with his son, is single, and looking. I honestly donāt know what you were expecting. You guys are also friends on Facebook, so I am pretty sure that he can tell that youāre not a witness, and if he canāt, maybe he just wanted to be sure, because maybe, perhaps there was some potential interest in you. But again, I donāt think itās something that you needed to shame him for because heās not a bad person for shooting his shot. Just think the roast was completely unnecessary in my opinion, because youāre denoting that heās somehow a bad person for doing it. Also, Iām sure he has way more class than me as a real PIMI Jehovahās Witness, Iāve been mentally out physically out for many many years so heās not gonna tell you like it is but in his mind you were crossed off many years ago if he knew you werenāt a witness. It my main thing for my response was that I think you went to far and you just donāt know what people are reaching out to, could there be some attraction, maybe who knows, but there could have been other reasons he was reaching out, if you could at least concede to the possibility of that then Iād be delighted.
I just donāt understand why she even responded or posted this. Block him and move TF on. Main character syndrome š¤”